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{{InfoBox TV | {{InfoBox TV | ||
| episode = 861-862 | | episode = 861-862 | ||
− | | image = 861-862.jpg | + | | int-episode = 916-917 |
− | | title = | + | | image = TV Episode 861-862.jpg |
− | | japanese-title = {{lang|ja|17年前と同じ現場}}<br>(17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba) | + | | title = {{PAGENAME}} |
− | | rating = 5.2% <br | + | | japanese-title = {{lang|ja|17年前と同じ現場}} <br> (17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba) |
+ | | rating = 5.2% <br> 6.9% | ||
| Manga case number = #274 | | Manga case number = #274 | ||
| airdate = June 3, 2017 (Part 1) <br> June 10, 2017 (Part 2) | | airdate = June 3, 2017 (Part 1) <br> June 10, 2017 (Part 2) | ||
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| dubbed-episode = | | dubbed-episode = | ||
| english-airdate = | | english-airdate = | ||
− | | cast = [[Conan Edogawa]]<br | + | | cast = [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Ai Haibara]] <br> [[Hiroshi Agasa]] <br> [[Subaru Okiya]] <br> [[Andre Camel]] <br> [[Kohji Haneda]] <br> [[Shuichi Akai]] <br> [[Jodie Starling]] <br> [[Juzo Megure]] <br> [[Wataru Takagi]] <br> [[Kazunobu Chiba]] <br> [[Shinichi Kudo]] <br> [[Gin]] <br> [[Vodka]] <br> [[Fusae Campbell]] <br> [[Kamen Yaiba]] |
− | | solved-by = [[Conan Edogawa]]<br | + | | solved-by = [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Subaru Okiya]] |
− | | next-conan-hint = Scissors (Part 1)<br>Colored ball (Part 2) | + | | next-conan-hint = Scissors (Part 1) <br> Colored ball (Part 2) |
| case = | | case = | ||
| director = [[Yasuichiro Yamamoto]] | | director = [[Yasuichiro Yamamoto]] | ||
− | | organizer = | + | | organizer = [[Umesaburo Sagawa]] <br> [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]] |
− | | storyboard = | + | | storyboard = [[Umesaburo Sagawa]] <br> [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]] |
− | | producer = | + | | producer = 861: [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]] <br> 862: [[Akira Yoshimura]] |
− | | animation-director = | + | | animation-director = [[Masatomo Sudo]] and [[Seiji Muta]] (Supervisors) <br> 861: [[Kenichi Otomo]] <br> 862: [[Asuka Tsubuki]] and [[Kyoko Yoshimi]] |
− | | voice-cast = [[Minami Takayama]] as [[Conan Edogawa]]<br | + | | character-design = [[Masatomo Sudo]] <br> [[Nobuyuki Iwai]] <br> [[Rei Masunaga]] (sub-character) <br> [[Kumiko Shishido]] (design works) |
− | + | | voice-cast = [[Minami Takayama]] as [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Megumi Hayashibara]] as [[Ai Haibara]] <br> [[Kenichi Ogata]] as [[hiroshi Agasa]] <br> [[Ryotaro Okiayu]] as [[Subaru Okiya]] <br> [[Shuichi Ikeda]] as [[Shuichi Akai]] <br> [[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] as [[Andre Camel]] <br> [[Miyuki Ichijou]] as [[Jodie Starling]] <br> [[Chafurin]] as [[Juzo Megure]] <br> [[Wataru Takagi (voice actor)|Wataru Takagi]] as [[Wataru Takagi]] <br> [[Isshin Chiba]] as [[Kazunobu Chiba]] <br> [[Joji Nakata]] as Kazunori Senba <br> [[Kotaro Shinohara]] as Officer A <br> [[Shinnosuke Ogami]] as Officer B <br> [[Kozo Mito]] as Bodyguard A <br> [[Eiji Yanagisawa]] as Bodyguard B | |
− | | opening-song = Ikusen no | + | | opening-song = Ikusen no Meikyū de Ikusen no Nazo o Toite |
| closing-song = YESTERDAY LOVE | | closing-song = YESTERDAY LOVE | ||
| prev-episode = The Security System's Pitfall | | prev-episode = The Security System's Pitfall | ||
− | | next-episode = | + | | next-episode = The Spirit Detective's Murder |
− | | footnotes = | + | | footnotes = Last episode to feature [[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] as the voice of [[Andre Camel]]. |
}} | }} | ||
+ | {{nihongo|'''''{{PAGENAME}}'''''|17年前と同じ現場|17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba}} is the 861st and 862nd episode of the ''[[Detective Conan]]'' [[anime]]. | ||
== Characters introduced == | == Characters introduced == | ||
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* [[Shukichi Haneda|Shukichi]]'s non-blood brother | * [[Shukichi Haneda|Shukichi]]'s non-blood brother | ||
* Shogi player}} | * Shogi player}} | ||
+ | {{newChar|[[Amanda Hughes]]|Amanda Hughes.jpg|link=Amanda Hughes|fsize=9px| | ||
+ | * Deceased (induced apoptosis) | ||
+ | * 80 years old | ||
+ | * Wealthy american with contacts with intelligence agencies}} | ||
+ | {{newChar|[[Asaka]]|Asaka EP861.jpg|link=Asaka|fsize=9px| | ||
+ | * Missing person | ||
+ | * Amanda's bodyguard | ||
+ | * Prime suspect in Amanda and Kohji's murders}} | ||
{{endBox}} | {{endBox}} | ||
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{{char|Conan Edogawa}} | {{char|Conan Edogawa}} | ||
{{char|Ai Haibara}} | {{char|Ai Haibara}} | ||
− | {{char|Hiroshi | + | {{char|Hiroshi Agasa}} |
{{char|Subaru Okiya}} | {{char|Subaru Okiya}} | ||
{{char|Shuichi Akai|display=Shuichi Akai (voice/background)}} | {{char|Shuichi Akai|display=Shuichi Akai (voice/background)}} | ||
{{char|Andre Camel}} | {{char|Andre Camel}} | ||
{{char|Jodie Starling}} | {{char|Jodie Starling}} | ||
− | {{char|Juzo | + | {{char|Juzo Megure}} |
− | {{char|Wataru | + | {{char|Wataru Takagi}} |
− | {{char|Kazunobu Chiba|display= | + | {{char|Kazunobu Chiba}} |
− | {{char|Gin|display=Gin (background)}} | + | {{char|Shinichi Kudo|display=Shinichi Kudo (background)}} |
− | {{char|Vodka|display=Vodka (background)}} | + | {{char|Gin|display=Gin<br>(background)}} |
+ | {{char|Vodka|display=Vodka<br>(background)}} | ||
{{char|Fusae Campbell|display=Fusae Campbell (background)}} | {{char|Fusae Campbell|display=Fusae Campbell (background)}} | ||
+ | {{char|Kamen Yaiba|display=Kamen Yaiba (background)}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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=== Situation === | === Situation === | ||
==== Part 1 ==== | ==== Part 1 ==== | ||
− | At Agasa's resident, Conan and Haibara | + | At Agasa's resident, Conan and Haibara do research on Kohji Haneda. They learn that seventeen years ago, he went to USA for a chess competition, but he was murdered in his hotel room. His room was left in a mess and the cause of death is unknown. In another room in the same hotel, another murder took place. The victim was Amanda Hughes, a wealthy American with contacts of the FBI and CIA. She was a fan and an acquaintance of Haneda, and it was proved that she had visited him in his hotel room as her finger prints were left on the doorknob, sofa, tea cup, plate, and fork. Like Haneda, the cause of her death is unknown. In the pictures from the crime scene Conan spots a broken mirror with letters on it. P-T-O-N. Haibara thinks it's a part of a message PUT ON MASCARA, and explains that a cosmetic firm would give such mirrors along with products. Her sister had one, that was inherited from their mother. But it's unclear why Haneda would have such a mirror in his room. Haibara guesses that Kohji Haneda was murdered because of his connection with Amanda Hughes. |
+ | |||
{{InfoBox Crime | {{InfoBox Crime | ||
| crime = Murder (Past) | | crime = Murder (Past) | ||
| victim = Amanda Hughes and Kohji Haneda | | victim = Amanda Hughes and Kohji Haneda | ||
− | | age = 80 | + | | age = 80 years old (Amanda) and unknown (Kohji) |
| cause-death = Unknown (APTX 4869?) | | cause-death = Unknown (APTX 4869?) | ||
− | | image = | + | | image = EP861 Case.jpg |
| location = Juke Hotel in America | | location = Juke Hotel in America | ||
| suspects = Asaka | | suspects = Asaka | ||
}} | }} | ||
− | |||
{{InfoBox Crime | {{InfoBox Crime | ||
| crime = Murder | | crime = Murder | ||
| victim = Kunihisa Hiyama | | victim = Kunihisa Hiyama | ||
− | | age = 61 | + | | age = 61 years old |
− | | cause-death = Blunt | + | | cause-death = Blunt force trauma to the head |
| image = EP861-862 case.jpg | | image = EP861-862 case.jpg | ||
− | | location = Hiyama's | + | | location = Hiyama's house |
| suspects = Kazunori Senba | | suspects = Kazunori Senba | ||
}} | }} | ||
==== Part 2 ==== | ==== Part 2 ==== | ||
− | |||
=== People === | === People === | ||
{{beginBox}} | {{beginBox}} | ||
− | {{people|[[Amanda Hughes]]|Amanda Hughes | + | {{People|[[Kohji Haneda]]|Kohji Haneda.jpg| |
+ | * Deceased ([[APTX 4869]]?) | ||
+ | * [[Shukichi Haneda|Shukichi]]'s non-blood brother | ||
+ | * Shogi player}} | ||
+ | {{people|[[Amanda Hughes]]|Amanda Hughes.jpg|fsize=9px| | ||
* Deceased | * Deceased | ||
* 80 years old | * 80 years old | ||
− | * | + | * Kohji's fan |
− | * Wealthy American with intelligence contacts }} | + | * Wealthy American with intelligence contacts}} |
− | {{people|Asaka|Asaka EP861.jpg| | + | {{people|[[Asaka]]|Asaka EP861.jpg| |
− | * Missing | + | * Missing person |
− | * Amanda's | + | * Amanda's bodyguard |
− | * Prime | + | * Prime suspect in Amanda and Kohji's murders}} |
{{people|Kunihisa Hiyama|Kunihisa Hiyama.png| | {{people|Kunihisa Hiyama|Kunihisa Hiyama.png| | ||
* Victim (bludgeoned) | * Victim (bludgeoned) | ||
* 61 years old | * 61 years old | ||
− | * | + | * Real-Estate Company president}} |
{{people|Kazunori Senba|Kazunori Senba.jpg| | {{people|Kazunori Senba|Kazunori Senba.jpg| | ||
* 50 years old | * 50 years old | ||
− | * First | + | * First discoverer |
− | * Former Dagashi <ref>'''Dagashi''' ({{lang|ja|駄菓子}}) - Japanese cheap sweets</ref> Shop | + | * Former Dagashi<ref>'''Dagashi''' ({{lang|ja|駄菓子}}) - Japanese cheap sweets.</ref> Shop owner}} |
{{people|Bodyguard|bodyguarda.png| | {{people|Bodyguard|bodyguarda.png| | ||
* Hiyama's bodyguard | * Hiyama's bodyguard | ||
− | * | + | * Strangely well-built}} |
− | |||
{{people|Bodyguard 2|bodyguardb.png| | {{people|Bodyguard 2|bodyguardb.png| | ||
* Hiyama's bodyguard | * Hiyama's bodyguard | ||
− | * | + | * Strangely well-built}} |
− | {{people|[[Minor law enforcement# | + | {{people|[[Minor law enforcement#Unnamed officer|Forensics staff member]]|Forensics2.png| |
* Tokyo MPD CSI officer}} | * Tokyo MPD CSI officer}} | ||
− | {{people|[[Minor law enforcement# | + | {{people|[[Minor law enforcement#Unnamed officer|Forensics staff member 2]]|Forensics3.png| |
* Tokyo MPD CSI officer}} | * Tokyo MPD CSI officer}} | ||
{{endBox}} | {{endBox}} | ||
=== Resolution === | === Resolution === | ||
− | <spoiler> | + | <spoiler>The killer is '''Kazunori Senba'''. |
− | The killer is '''Kazunori Senba'''. | ||
The culprit used a trick to bring in the murder weapon. He seal the empty toy capsule using cellotape. Then, he take the half of it and put the iron ball inside. He poured honey and closed it again. The culprit threw the two balls as well as the capsule on the roof at the same time to obscure the sound of the capsule hitting the roof, and only one fell to the ground. The honey makes it hard for the ball to roll fast and if the guards hear two balls landing to the roof, they will probably check where's the other one. The victim really didn't take the CR but the culprit, and until the iron ball came out to the roof, it came out through the small window. The culprit waited until the victim check the CR where the murder took place. The blood splattered to him will be proven by checking if there's a luminol reaction. | The culprit used a trick to bring in the murder weapon. He seal the empty toy capsule using cellotape. Then, he take the half of it and put the iron ball inside. He poured honey and closed it again. The culprit threw the two balls as well as the capsule on the roof at the same time to obscure the sound of the capsule hitting the roof, and only one fell to the ground. The honey makes it hard for the ball to roll fast and if the guards hear two balls landing to the roof, they will probably check where's the other one. The victim really didn't take the CR but the culprit, and until the iron ball came out to the roof, it came out through the small window. The culprit waited until the victim check the CR where the murder took place. The blood splattered to him will be proven by checking if there's a luminol reaction. | ||
− | Upon realizing the victim's dying message on the glass cup is similar to the missing letters on the mirror in | + | Upon realizing the victim's dying message on the glass cup is similar to the missing letters on the mirror in Kōji Haneda's room, Conan and Subaru each rearrange the missing letters and discover Haneda's dying message: |
− | + | PUT ON MASCARA - P T ON = U MASCARA <br> | |
− | PUT ON MASCARA | + | U MASCARA - ASACA = U M R<br> |
− | U MASCARA | + | Which can be rearranged to make RUM</spoiler> |
− | Which can be rearranged to make RUM | ||
− | + | == Manga to anime changes == | |
+ | {{main|List of differences between the manga and anime}} | ||
+ | * In the anime, before exiting Agasa's house with the Professor and Conan, Subaru gives Haibara his oven mitts, telling her to recook the food he gave her. | ||
+ | * In the anime, when Conan enters the Beetle to search for Agasa's laptop, the Professor tells him the culprit is going to be interviewed by the police. In the manga, Conan says he wants to check something before he goes and see the police interview. | ||
+ | * In the anime, when trying to solve the "PUT ON MASCARA" riddle, after having deleted the letters P, T, O and N, Conan thinks to himself that there are many "A" in the riddle, and that the riddle is maybe a Japanese name. | ||
− | == Gallery == | + | == Gallery == |
{{main gallery}} | {{main gallery}} | ||
− | < | + | |
− | </ | + | == Trivia == |
+ | * Subaru Okiya and Jodie Starling's vehicle is a Race Red with White twin Stripes 2007 Ford Shelby GT 500 SVT [S197]. | ||
+ | * The names of the suspects are related to numbers and calculus<ref>{{cite web|url=https://w.atwiki.jp/aniwotawiki/pages/37084.html|accessdate=2023-05-14|title=17年前と同じ現場(名探偵コナン)}}</ref>: | ||
+ | :* Kunihisa Hiyama (樋山 邦寿) comes from "hundred" (百, hyaku) and "substraction" (差, sa / 引き算, hikizan); | ||
+ | :* Kazunori Senba (仙波 和徳) comes from "thousand" (千, chi/sen) and "addition" (和, kazu / 足し算, tashizan). | ||
+ | |||
+ | == References == | ||
+ | <references/> | ||
+ | |||
+ | == In other languages == | ||
+ | {{BeginTable EpLang}} | ||
+ | {{EpLangItem|flag=Catalonia|Catalan|El mateix escenari del crim que fa disset anys|The Same Crime Scene from Seventeen Years Ago}} | ||
+ | {{EpLangItem|flag=France|French (Subbed)|Scènes de crime analogues à 17 ans d’intervalle|Crime scenes alike in 17 years interval}} | ||
+ | {{EpLangItem|flag=Thailand|Thai|เหมือนกับที่เกิดเหตุเมื่อ 17 ปีก่อน|Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene}} | ||
+ | {{EpLangItem|flag=Vietnam|Vietnamese|Hiện trường giống với 17 năm trước|}} | ||
+ | {{EndTable}} | ||
== References == | == References == | ||
− | <references /> | + | <references/> |
== See also == | == See also == | ||
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[[Category:Episodes]] | [[Category:Episodes]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Animation directed by Asuka Tsubuki]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Animation directed by Kenichi Otomo]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Animation directed by Kyoko Yoshimi]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[de:Episode 861]] | ||
+ | [[zh:TV861]] |
Latest revision as of 05:37, 25 November 2023
Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene (17年前と同じ現場 17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba ) is the 861st and 862nd episode of the Detective Conan anime.
Contents
Characters introduced
Cast
Case
Situation
Part 1
At Agasa's resident, Conan and Haibara do research on Kohji Haneda. They learn that seventeen years ago, he went to USA for a chess competition, but he was murdered in his hotel room. His room was left in a mess and the cause of death is unknown. In another room in the same hotel, another murder took place. The victim was Amanda Hughes, a wealthy American with contacts of the FBI and CIA. She was a fan and an acquaintance of Haneda, and it was proved that she had visited him in his hotel room as her finger prints were left on the doorknob, sofa, tea cup, plate, and fork. Like Haneda, the cause of her death is unknown. In the pictures from the crime scene Conan spots a broken mirror with letters on it. P-T-O-N. Haibara thinks it's a part of a message PUT ON MASCARA, and explains that a cosmetic firm would give such mirrors along with products. Her sister had one, that was inherited from their mother. But it's unclear why Haneda would have such a mirror in his room. Haibara guesses that Kohji Haneda was murdered because of his connection with Amanda Hughes.
Murder (Past) | |||||||||||
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Murder | |||||||||||
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Part 2
People
Resolution
Manga to anime changes
- In the anime, before exiting Agasa's house with the Professor and Conan, Subaru gives Haibara his oven mitts, telling her to recook the food he gave her.
- In the anime, when Conan enters the Beetle to search for Agasa's laptop, the Professor tells him the culprit is going to be interviewed by the police. In the manga, Conan says he wants to check something before he goes and see the police interview.
- In the anime, when trying to solve the "PUT ON MASCARA" riddle, after having deleted the letters P, T, O and N, Conan thinks to himself that there are many "A" in the riddle, and that the riddle is maybe a Japanese name.
Gallery
Trivia
- Subaru Okiya and Jodie Starling's vehicle is a Race Red with White twin Stripes 2007 Ford Shelby GT 500 SVT [S197].
- The names of the suspects are related to numbers and calculus[2]:
- Kunihisa Hiyama (樋山 邦寿) comes from "hundred" (百, hyaku) and "substraction" (差, sa / 引き算, hikizan);
- Kazunori Senba (仙波 和徳) comes from "thousand" (千, chi/sen) and "addition" (和, kazu / 足し算, tashizan).
References
- ^ Dagashi (駄菓子) - Japanese cheap sweets.
- ^ "17年前と同じ現場(名探偵コナン)". https://w.atwiki.jp/aniwotawiki/pages/37084.html. Retrieved on 2023-05-14.
In other languages
Language | Title | Translation |
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Catalan | El mateix escenari del crim que fa disset anys | The Same Crime Scene from Seventeen Years Ago |
French (Subbed) | Scènes de crime analogues à 17 ans d’intervalle | Crime scenes alike in 17 years interval |
Thai | เหมือนกับที่เกิดเหตุเมื่อ 17 ปีก่อน | Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene |
Vietnamese | Hiện trường giống với 17 năm trước |
References
See also
Episodes of Season 27 | ||
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