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The New theme song will be "Don't Wanna Lie" by B'z. A new Official trailer (not a preview, the official trailer) has been released, and the site has been updated! I put more info on my post on the first page of the thread which I've been editing!

I have to agree with you there! The name won't be that simple... the Organization is complex and intelligent, and the name will be no exception. It will probably have to do with some sort of riddle or as you said, a pun or reference of some sort. It more than likely wouldn't be something as obvious as a last name (it's just not how Gosho works... he'll try to make this as complex as he can). What I'm wondering is if the song "Nanatsu no Ko" is not just a reference to the crow, which the Organization is often compared to, but as a hint about the boss himself (not necessarily his name, but some personal connection to him perhaps)

There is a possibility that Dr. Agasa could be that guy we all look forward to meeting one day ... but it seems common in a way, to have the fatherly figure or the one who appears to be perfectly good and guides the protagonists be the bad guy. Also, is there a reason why he hasn't done anything to her yet if he sends out all of these members to kill her? Is it so that she doesn't feel the need to run away? But if so, why wouldn't he have sent for one of the members to kill her, or at the very least give away information about her? Another thing about the boss is that we shouldn't assume he gives off that evil aura Haibara can sense. Gosho once said that Haibara will be surprised when she finds out who the boss is (or so it says in a book I read). For starts, one could assume that it means first off she doesn't sense any danger from him/her, and to be specific, it could mean she trusts him/her or that she doesn't feel he/she has the capabilities or seems to have an occupation or lifestyle that wouldn't make it seem as though he/she were the boss of the Organization. There could also be a chance that perhaps... the boss is in a similar predicament as Vermouth? What I mean by this is that perhaps the boss also doesn't age... the organization is REALLY old, so that could explain it. The APTX 4869 couldn't have been a possibility due to the fact that if the boss took the APTX 4869, Conan and Haibara would pretty much be exposed. My theory is that either the boss does not know the true predicaments of Conan and Ai but is pretty close to finding out so since he/she is always close to them, or he/she is one of the few people that know their secret, but for some weird reason is taking the time to observe them, with a huge risk that one of them could expose the organization to someone... unless this gets more complex and the boss is actually a part of the police force, like a major officer, detective, superintendent, or some sort of higher up that is well loved and could dismiss their claims easily. That still pretty much leaves about everyone for a culprit. I'd like to think it isn't a child or teenager, but knowing how Gosho works, anything could happen. Anything. Somehow "Nanatsu no Ko" and those alcoholic codenames, along with the true organization name (which we don't know yet) must all tie into this puzzle. If we were to say that Okiya were Akai, Scar Akai was Bourbon, and that all the members in the Organization were only members, not just the boss pretending to be a simple member, that still leaves a lot of people. It appears a lot of people that are involved in the Organization are very wealthy, powerful, intelligent, and influential people such as politicians, business owners, actors, and professional snipers. If we were to say that the boss probably pretended to be none of these, and tried not to stand out, andwas extremely close with either Conan, Ai, or both, that leaves us with family, friends, the police, and the FBI for big suspects. There are some exceptions, such as Jodie, who was revealed to have a rough past with the Organization, but overall these people seem likely to be on the list. Even those who were only supposedly dead but never confirmed, such as Ai's parents, are still suspicious. Considering that pretty much everyone who is close to those two are fairly young (at the maximum 50), if one of these people were to be the boss, they would surely have to have done something to slow or halt their aging process.

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Title: 沈黙の15分 English Title: Quarter of Silence (Direct Translation: 15 Minutes of Silence, but it will be called Quarter of Silence) Release Date: April 16 Tagline: 生き延びるんだ、 絶対に。。。 I have to survive, no matter what... Supervising Director: 山本 泰一郎 Yasuichiro Yamamoto Director:静野孔文 Kobun Shizuno Written By: 古内一成 Kazunari Kochi Music: 大野克夫Katsuo Ono (As Always! :mrgreen: ) Trailers: Preview/ Teaser Trailer(Released With Movie 14) First Official Trailer (Released 12/4) Edit:There's a New Preview Poster! It pretty much contains the same pictures, but there is color to the images! (This is my guessing from back in November, to read the updated one just click on the spoiler tag below my silly rambling here) I'm looking forward to this one. Movie 14 was really funny, but it lacked plot and a mystery, so hopefully this one will bring some mystery to it! Based on the poster image, the title, and the poster tagline, it looks like a new mystery involving something with snow, a clock, trying to survive, and 15 minutes... a bombing mystery at some clock tower maybe? Maybe not, since there already has been one bombing movie before (two if you count the Black Organization bombing the towers in Movie 5...) I'm not too sure the BO will be back in this movie since they were in movie 13 (but who knows, it's the 15th anniversary of the anime and movies. Anything could happen). Kaito Kid was the main star of the last movie, so obviously there won't be a whole movie about him for a while, so I wonder what they'll do. Certainly since this is the 15th movie this movie is bound to have something exciting happen, so the only thing I can think of that hasn't happened in the movies for a long time now is Conan reverting back into Shinichi, but who knows. As for the clock, I'm curious. In pretty much every movie poster so far, each part of the poster has something to do with the movie (or it is a teaser for the movie, like the Movie 14 poster!) Every time I look at the face of the clock, the first thing that pops into my head is Big Ben (though that would be strange if that's what it was meant to be, since we just went through a London arc) Also, as I said, snow seems to have a role in this movie, since the movie's logo is this: Well now a new person (specifically Kobun Shizuno) is taking over the roll of director that was formerly held by Yasuichiro Yamamoto for a LONG time, so maybe we'll see something new. Hopefully there will be a mystery this time around, and maybe some appearances by characters we haven't seen in a while (although we've pretty much seen everyone in Movies 13 and 14 since they managed to incorporate nearly every important character, unless you view Hakuba Saguru the same way you view characters like Heiji, Sato, etc., in that case there are people we haven't seen in a while...) So far, the movie website hasn't been updated, so no more information is available currently, but usually in December, information comes FLOODING in! I remember last year, where within a few days the website was updated, new information came out, and trailers began to appear, so soon enough we'll find out more! (Edit:I crossed this out since the site has now been updated!):wink: This is my January talk about the movie here, so there's not a lot of general information, mostly just guessing! Edit 12/4: The Official Movie Website has been updated for Movie 15! The Website Includes: (Click the Spoiler Tag below if you want to know!) Edit 12/26: New Movie Poster! (the official movie poster!!) Edit 3/4 There's a New Movie Trailer out here, and the website has been updated with the official movie poster and more, including info on the suspects! It seems the new theme song will be "Don't Wanna Lie" by B'z, who you might know from a few Detective Conan Openings, Endings, and Movie themes. I put what's new on the sight in the spoilers below: Also, the OFFICIAL trailer has been released now. The link is here and here's the translation (in spoilers because the official trailer may or may not contain scenes that spoil parts of the movie) Definitely something to look forward to! We now know the theme song and more!

So Here's what I got for information: The manga styled poster Gosho made was released: (Since it may be considered a spoiler to some, I put a spoiler tag around it!) Title: 沈黙の15分 English Title: 15 Minutes of Silence Release Date: April 16 Tagline: I have to survive... no matter what ...that's all I have for now!

I think the best way for Ran to find out would be during a battle with the Black Organization (the final one) and their lives are in danger, and Ran says she's scared and that she wishes Shinichi was there, so he finally tells her the truth, since he's been caught anyways... but of course they live!

Well, since he took on a new alias, he can't live at his home, drive his truck, or carry his cell phone (which would explain why it was in that corpse's pocket). Obviously as a former member of the BO, they would easily be able to track him down if he did any of those. Since his apartment burnt down, he can't turn to anyone. If he is Akai, then only Rena Mizunashi (aka Hidemi Hondou) and Conan would know of this plan. He obviously can't turn to Rena for help, since Rena is part of the Black Organization, and cannot turn to his fellow FBI agents, since they believe he is dead, so his only hope is to turn to Conan, who just happens to have a house he can use for a while, although, if he is Akai, then one way or another he'll be found eventually (it seems the BO is already suspicious about this incident), so he won't be able to hide forever. As to why Bourbon would take Akai's place, that's simple. There could be multiple reasons as to why, but the most logical reason would be to see reactions. Bourbon is probably intelligent enough to assume that if Akai were to be REALLY dead, everyone around him would act shocked, as if seeing a ghost, but if they were to confront him and ask him why he wasn't "following the plan" or such, then Bourbon would have figured out easily that Akai was in fact alive.

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Or kick a soccer ball at them to give them amnesia!

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What a crazy plot twist that would be! Now you're thinking like Gosho!

Oh, that's just what school does to a person... 6 hours of work and then you're too tired to do anything else! Glad to be back though! Oh, I meant to add this to my theory, but I'll just write it here: one more reason I don't believe Dr. Agasa would be the boss is because... Gosho tends to make the plot how you least expect. By revealing some information about the boss during an interview, he knew there would be a large discussion about this between Conan fans, so, although what he said is true, it's probably someone we wouldn't expect, even with the information we've received by him...

Good idea! Oh wait, I can't cry, because I'm a detective! Detectives don't cry!

Well, I have a couple ideas as to how to narrow down who might be the boss. First off, I bought this book, The Case Closed Casebook, which doesn't share a lot of information, but the information it shares on the boss of the Black Organization was interesting. First off, it mentions the boss hasalready been introduced. (Jodie, since this book is commonly discussed in Detective Conan Fan Forums, this is probably what you were referring to, as it states Gosho said this in an interview, though there are no sources in the book telling you where or when) I did some research to find that the book was released June 29, 2008, so because of this, one can assume the boss was featured before file 640 roughly (It doesn't narrow it down too much, but at least we can exclude recently appearing minor characters). Unfortunately, it is not stated whether the boss is a major character, minor character, or his/her name has been only mentioned before, but the next clue Gosho gives is that Haibara would be surprised if she knew the boss' identity, so one can assume she either knows the person or, if she met him/her one day, she would not think he/she would be suitable enough (too old, young, weak, simple minded,etc...) Finally, the boss' name will be tied to the true name of the syndicate (meaning the Black Organization is not the Organization's true name, Conan just calls them that because that is what Akemi Miyano, a low ranking member in the Organization who knows little about them, told him. Gin has hinted the boss might be a male. A couple of times, he has referred to the boss as a he, but at the same time, this all depends on how close Gin knows the boss. If he has only talked to the boss on the phone, then the boss may have disguised his/her voice, so the gender would be impossible to tell just from a call, but if Gin was to have met the boss... then chances are the boss is male. The boss seems to have some connection with "Nanatsu No Ko", the e-mail address to contact them. Alcohol might have some sort of a relation to the boss also. Vermouth is the boss' favorite subordinate. Why? Vermouth seems to be one of the only members of the Organization that shows true emotion (besides for Akai and Kir, but they're infiltrating the Organization for the sake of the FBI/CIA). The boss probably finds Vermouth to be his/her favorite because of how Vermouth hasn't aged. She looks exactly the same as she did when Jodie was a child, and has faked her death as Sharon Vineyard, continuing life as Chris Vineyard and Vermouth. How old is Vermouth really? She may even be older than what we think, with Vermouth. The reason for her immortality and the large science department probably has something to do with immortality or such. I'm not sure about raising the dead, as according to this handy book I have with me here, Haibara has denied that (although I don't remember that in the series. Then again, it's been a while since I've read the first 200 chapters, so I'm not entirely sure). The blackmail could be for money, the science department could be for the research and creation of something that can grant immortality along with the creation of poisons, the computer software can be for the sharing of data and information regarding what they seek, and the murders are to keep those who plan to reveal their research and expose the organization silent, but that is an unjustified theory, only a mere thought I had considered. Sorry, back to the topic of who the boss might be (getting off topic here!) If the movies have some influence on the manga (which it has been hinted that the movies do), then perhaps the boss is not amongst the police (think movie 13), but we cannot be entirely sure the manga has some movie influences for sure. I have considered Dr. Agasa and Yusaku Kudo, two guesses that are commonly made, but I doubt it could be either of them due to their actions. With Dr. Agasa, why doesn't he do anything to Ai or Conan if he knows their secret? Some people believe he is waiting for the right moment, but he has already told multiple members of the Organization to find and kill Sherry, so it makes no sense. As for Yusaku... I'm quite sure at the very least he wouldn't allow his subordinates to drug his own son, or harm him in any way. Also, the boss is either fairly old (At least 40) or the boss has changed over the years. The Organization has been around for over 20 years, but according to this lovely book here (again), Haibara makes a comment in her thoughts, wondering how "Kudo" would react if he knew he was part of an experiment that was over half a century old (50 YEARS!) Again, I don't remember reading this, but I'll go along with it unless I can prove this book wrong. Hope that helps!