Chekhov MacGuffin

The DCTP AiCon thread was started a year and a half before the ShinRan thread and had a 925 post head start. Also, a good chunk of the DCTP Aicon thread is... how shall I put this nicely... content-lite and post-dense? I rarely posted there despite being an AiCon because of that.

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/417-the-secret-behind-vermouths-youth/page__view__findpost__p__105996

Ten bets Serika gets the axe in the next file. A bunch of people touched stuff or gave stuff to her. It's a setup! My guess is this is going to be a five or six part case. I wonder what Serika's maiden name is?

Clones don't have the same fingerprints. Neither do identical twins. Fingerprints are determined randomly while a baby is developing. With current 2011 tech, the only way to get the exact same fingerprints as someone else is to get a surgeon to graft that person's fingers onto your hands which leaves scars, or graft the fingerprint skin itself onto your fingers, which also leaves scars.

General Hospital Murder Case - EP 83 Found by searching for "hospital leg" in the Wiki and finding it in Season 4.

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Jodie matched Vermouth, Sharon, and Chris's fingerprints to each other. Akai thinks they are the same person as well. So does Conan for different reasons involving his visit to NYC.It's possible Vermouth could have actually had a daughter as Sharon, but the same Vermouth is definitely Chris now because of the prints. It's also possible that Vermouth is not aging and thus faked a pregnancy (remember she was ultra secretive about her personal life) to prepare in advance for when she would need to switch into a younger disguise because her Sharon one would eventually get too old and require more and more makeup to hide Vermouth's young face..

I'd like to point out Jodie matched Vermouth's fingerprints with both Chris and Sharon proving they are the same person. Also Akai Shuuichi and Conan came to the same conclusion that Sharon is Chris is Vermouth, which means three detectives think Sharon and Chris are the same person. We have sections on how they respectively came to those conclusions in the Vermouth article.Jodie's discovery Chris Vineyard, Sharon Vineyard and Vermouth are the same person Conan's discovery Chris Vineyard, Sharon Vineyard and Vermouth are the same person

He does get paid for some of the ones he just runs into for according to the Conan Drill. One example is the The Shinkansen's Bomb Case (M33-35, A5) where he bagged a what-seems-to-be-standard-fee of ¥120000 (~USD 1484.78) Looking at the list, he doesn't always get the money for cases he runs into, and most of his income does seem to come from cases he was hired for. I don't know if the police pays him or surviving people do out of gratitude. He still got paid ¥75000 (~USD 928.00) for the sister murder case in the bathroom with the ducttape (M197-199, A121-122), and I don't think the culprit would pay him.

I must have missed it. I would have like to have seen it, if you have a copy somewhere.

This theory is subject to change, as it is preliminary and may be incorrect. This is case uses illusions as its gimmick. Murder of Wakamatsu Ikurou The mystery person at the Karuizawa house and their note Murder of Wakamatsu Kouhei

Do so. I linked all the DCW topics I could find in the original post. Please create any we don't have.

Try logging out and then back in again. That problem usually resolves over time whenever I have it. Hmm. Maybe there is a forum error page I can look for.

Maybe it's because he took the belt off and left it in the car attached to the ball, so it kept the ball from deflating? If so, that is the most impressively compact air inflation pump I have ever seen because I think it would need a much bigger canister of compressed air in order to keep inflating the ball long enough for Megure to arrive. :|

Vermouth showing up, saying something to Gin we couldn't hear, and then Gin calling off Chianti after that is a pretty good indication Vermouth is involved. Bourbon is the one who is doing all the footwork and case solving, so it's mostly his effort, not Vermouth's. I think it would be weird if every bad guy in DC was a master of disguise capable of latex perfection, so I think it is a good call on Gosho's part to have Vermouth help Bourbon with this. Okiya's disguise is pretty simple if he is Akai: Glasses and a wig or hair dye + straightening. Regarding two people disguising seeming implausible plotwise, Gosho has already pulled the festival of disguise card once before for the Vermouth arc climax. We had Vermouth as Araide, Conan as Haibara, Heiji as Shinichi as the invisible man, Vodka as a zombie, Yukiko as Medusa, and the case culprit disguising the primary case suspect as himself. Okiya and scar Akai are small potatoes compared to the 30 disguise pileup that was Volume 42. But the quote's context implies that the detective she was talking about is the one who set up the plan to trick Gin and the Black Org by faking Akai's death. Since Conan was part of the fake Akai's death plan, it would make sense that Conan was the one. Gosho wrote/drew it like that to trick the readers into thinking Okiya sent it Mouri the text first. This is also the reason why scar Akai was not shown using his phone earlier. Then next file there is the shocking twist that it wasn't Okiya who sent it.

Earlier there are a lot of differences. The anime botched several plot related cases like the Shinkensen Bomb case (episode 5, manga 33-35). Gin and Vodka really appeared in that one in the manga and Conan learned their codenames. The anime also badly botched The Strange Person Hunt Murder Case (Episode 13, Manga 13-16). In the manga, Akemi was killed by Gin who also appeared with Vodka. The episode had to be redone in 128. The detective boys were introduced later in the manga (Manga 17-19, Episode 20 A Haunted Mansion Murder Case) so they didn't appear in several cases where they were shown in the anime. Another difference is the ordering of the cases. The anime also censors some things including some blood and injuries. The anime got a lot better about sticking to the manga by the time the Vermouth arc rolled around but even now there are some differences and clues they overlooked. All things listed in spoilers HAVE been made into anime episodes There is a thread in another forum that lists more. Because of the changes, the result is that the anime is considered less canon than the manga by fans. It also means that arc solving (Vermouth, Kir, Bourbon) requires reading the manga because the animators get stuff wrong or change scenes, creating contradictions.

Try it now.

The first version of explaining common Okiya is not Akai rebuttals is done. If anyone has anything to add or arguments to make, go for it.

I changed the poll because I though the first two questions were too similar. I hope no one minds. To recast your vote, select delete my vote and then revote.

Balthazar you asked how I felt on all of the issues in a PM, but I decided to post my response here to kick start the discussion. All the links elaborate on my thoughts of the issues. Items and things Plot people People General issues (please see relevant threads) Specific current issues Manga spoilers

Now there is!