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Chekhov MacGuffin

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  1. If you try to include more than 10 quote boxes per post, you can't post, even if the post is well below the allowed character limit. Can we increase it to something like 20 or 30 quotes per post (or no limit?) because I have run into this problem before when doing line by line responses to people.
  2. Unavoidable double post because only 10 quotes are allowed per post. Maybe we can change that... Pisco also has it with him, Gin suggest pisco could use it. It was use as a weapon. the "prototype" in the sense mean it still did not achieve its original purpose, but use well as weapon.Exactly what User4869 said, they wanted to start using them to murder people because they are forensically very sneaky. Why use a gun to kill someone when you can make it look like they had a heart attack instead?
  3. They get to high place to observe environment. Vodka tells the businessman they made sure he was alone from the roller coaster. I'm not sure it was mentiond but the point is people in amusment park normally only mind their own business. Tropical land exist in Magic Kaito, also the stage for DC first case so Gosho would want to use it. Register in what? the BO victim list?. not sure what you're mean. why would they want to register it? I assume your observations are based off the anime. In the manga, only Vodka reacted to Kudo's name when it was revealed. The only thing that Gin reacts to (and only by turning around and looking) is Shinichi shouting that it wasn't an accident and it was a murder. Gin, being a smart as he is, probably noticed that as well, but thinks they will have a better chance of escape without body search (they had guns on them) if he insists it was an accident or that the obvious suspect did it. Later it was stated that Gin isn't good with the names or faces of the people he has killed. What I find curious about the scene is that Gin goes over to where Megure and Shinichi are and examines the diagram of the crime scene that Megure and Kudo were kneeling over on the ground. Perhaps he planned to reveal the person responsible in order to avoid a body search if Kudo failed? He could find in everywhere if it just a stick but.... The bat is silent, not leave trace as much as gun and if gun is use Shinichi will be dead and Ran would cry. This is an acute case of anime-screws-it-up-itis. Gin had a piece of piping, presumably left over from the ferris wheel construction. Gin told Vodka not to use any guns because the police were still around. Silenced or not, it may attract attention from trained cops unlike normal civilians who wouldn't recognize the sound source so readily. Also, the pipe would leave traces in the form of copious blood spatter on his clothes if Gin actually beat Shinichi to death. What if Shinichi's body was found quickly, Gin was stopped at the exit by police, and someone noticed that the directional blood splatter on the bottom of his sleeves couldn't have gotten there from the roller coaster case? He could set up as Pisco's suicide since Pisco was just being found out of being the culprit. In Shinichi case he did not have motive for suicide. Moreover, Gin got shot by Conan's watch and polices are coming, he need to hurry. Pisco corsps was burn in the fire so trace are not many to find. I explained above it was the gunshot sound that was the problem, not the using of guns and bullets per say. Gin could have pistol whipped Shinichi to knock him down instead of using the pipe no problem.I disagree with User 4869 here. I think Gin didn't care that Pisco's death looked like a murder because he was shot through the forehead and then had his house burnt down. I do agree that Gin was rushed for time because of the fire and firemen on the way, the police in the building being called, the tranquilizer in his body, and the bleeding gunshot wound, which is why he didn't bother with any more elaborate means of disposing of Pisco. The fire helped hide some of the incriminating evidence, like the computer, and burning Pisco's house down also helped hide additional evidence. Basically as long as the investigation dead ends, the Org doesn't care that it looks like murder. Pisco's death and Akai's death are similar in this regard.
  4. How instant is instantly? My theory is something along the lines of "just because you die doesn't mean your body stops moving." Basically he hit the knife, the high center of balance of the knife and the body combined with the slippery-ness of the handle point and any ice means he tipped onto his side, and then spasming (is that a word?) flopped onto his belly. See cadaveric spasm and postmortem spasm.
  5. Most people who subscribe to the Okiya is Akai theory do so based on the comprehensive evidence supporting the theory. Gosho makes his mysteries solvable, and most people who have voted Akai have been following Okiya case discussions where various clues and interpretations have been argued over quite extensively. Also, I've been tracking case voting results for about 95 chapters now and, for the majority of cases, the correct answer is in fact the most voted option. This is especially true when there are a lot of voters and one option dominates the others by a large margin. Basically, the majority is wrong some of the time, but rarely so when there has been a lot of discussion, a lot of voters, well thought out theories, and one solution that is largely favored over the others, all of which are true in discussions involving Okiya's identity.
  6. Dear people whining about DC being too predictable, please solve all the cases on your own next time. Regards, Chek

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    2. Good Nazo no Kage

      Good Nazo no Kage

      i agree with CarpetCrawler. i think it's the way events are put that is predictable. the cases, i guess some are and some are not.

    3. CoolKid94

      CoolKid94

      The only things I find predictable case wise are the AOs. Everything else is fine (totally thought there'd be romance development in File 786)!

    4. Hattori Joon

      Hattori Joon

      They're only predictable to me if I've already read or seen them once. Then again, I still make wrong predictions even when I saw them already (if I didn't see them for a long time).

  7. Datewise no, but we know both her mother and father supposedly died in a fire on the day Sharon debuted on screen. We can make some backwards assumptions and assume Sharon pretended to have Chris (age 29 now) around 25 years old, and debuted around age 20 which would put her debut time at about 34 years prior to the current timeline. In any case all the info we know about Sharon Vineyard and her supposed family history is on the Vermouth wiki page.
  8. I think the boss is a relative of Mouro Kogoro we haven't met yet. The reason why I think so is because Mouri's past and relatives are a black box, which is strange because we often hear about other character's relatives or family.

  9. Regarding Akai's fake death, don't watch it whatever you do!!! The anime botches several key points like the blood in the actual death scene (censorship ruins the bloodtrails!) and Akai stopping James Black (wrist grab, not phone grab!). The manga does it much better.

  10. Regarding Akai's fake death, don't watch it whatever you do!!! The anime botches several key points like the blood in the actual death scene (censorship ruins the bloodtrails!) and Akai stopping James Black (wrist grab, not phone grab!). The manga does it much better.

  11. Don't watch it whatever you do!!! The anime botches several key points like the blood in the actual death scene (censorship ruins the bloodtrails!) and Akai stopping James Black (wrist grab, not phone grab!). The manga does it much better. ⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩⇩ Read the manga. If you do it by the anime, this arc is harder/impossible to solve because of several lost clues! ⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧
  12. And if you've been in for a while, you get upgraded to your choice of curry or beef stew.

  13. As long as you think Okiya is Akai, you get beef stew too.

  14. I'm glad you appreciated it!

  15. Another one joins the Akai is Okiya moshpit... Bwahahahaha!!!!

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    2. Wildheart888

      Wildheart888

      ?? You talking to me, Spectra-kun?

    3. Chekhov MacGuffin

      Chekhov MacGuffin

      Genta's dad, boar scroll case

    4. Parkur

      Parkur

      good lord it's a moshpit?

  16. Bourbon isn't the boss, he's just a spy in the same division as Vermouth.

    That's why Vermouth drove up and talked to Gin after the department store case. She was telling him not to shoot scar Akai because he was Bourbon in disguise and he had a plan to trick the FBI.

  17. That's why Okiya gives scar Akai an evil look. He knows Bourbon is pretending to be him and that gives the real Akai a chance to come up with a plan.

  18. Bourbon is the fake Akai. His clever, yet twisted plan is to disguise as Akai, appear in front of the FBI, and watch the way the FBI react to him to trick the FBI into revealing if they know Akai is alive.

  19. That's assuming scar Akai is the real Akai. The real Akai is left handed, and every time he uses a gun, he holds it left handed. Scar Akai used his right hand to fire the gun at the bank. That's one of the reasons I don;t think scar Akai is the real Akai, but instead is an imposter, Bourbon, pretending to be Akai in order to trick the FBI.

  20. Sure, I'll listen to reasons Okiya isn't Akai. I collect them! But you might wanna check to make sure it isn't on this list first.

  21. I don't speak DetectiveRJB-ese, but I am going to guess that he is suggesting Gin deliberately targeted Shinichi in the first episode on Ano kata's orders because Ano kata feared Shinichi. The problem with that is Gin and Vodka didn't target Shinichi. They couldn't predict there would be a murder case so they would be noticed by Shinichi in the first place. Then after that, they couldn't guarantee Shinichi would follow them to where the transaction would take place. Most importantly, if Ano kata wanted Shinichi dead because he feared him, why not just send Chianti and Korn after him and take him out? Why bother letting him see Black Organization agents in the first place? It doesn't make sense, so I don't think the Black Organization cared about Shinichi at all.
  22. Your ATM PIN is 1412 or 4869. Mine isn't in case you are wondering, but I was tempted.
  23. Advertising pro tip: Spamming your beauty cream on a wiki page about an evil organization's lethal poison used to murder people might create negative product reputation.

    1. tengaku squared

      tengaku squared

      I wonder why they even do that.

    2. Sayomi

      Sayomi

      Who did THAT .__.

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  24. I always thought it would be nice if the boss was stuck in the body of a teenager because of some aging accident related to whatever made Vermouth stay young. It would make him feel even more like a rival to Shinichi if that were the case. I suppose you could go even further and make the boss look 6-7. Maybe that's why he only uses text messages, because who would obey a kid's voice completely seriously? It would also be incredibly creepy.
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