AJ M.

@Kyuu I think you and I both have said all that is needed to be said on this topic. We've pretty much discussed every point possible during our argument a while ago. As tempting as it is to call out every person's opinion we don't agree with, it's just too damn repetitive, if not necessary, to regurgitate all of our previous arguments. I think it's best to just leave the table open for other future debaters. (PS: ShinRan for the win!)

I never created an account. Creeping/stalking through forums was more of my cup of tea. I'm sure you can relate.

As of now, it's still not confirmed that Kid knows Conan's identity in the manga. If you were referring to the movies, they are non-canon and therefore play no role in the actual plot of the series.

I play off as if there were a ghost in my house. Like when a jacket randomly falls off of its hanger, I assume it's the ghost's doing. (I would say I don't believe in ghosts, but she's probably watching me type right now and I don't want to anger her)

It would be like the time Conan tranquilized Heiji. But it wouldn't be too great if Tooru discovered Conan's identity as well. :V

I'm well aware that Shinichi hasn't drastically changed; but an improvement is still an improvement. OF COURSE he preserves some of his ego, HE'S LIKE A GOD WHO COULD DO NO WRONG. And yes, that was a hyperbole; he's not perfect, and I'm sure he's aware of that. But with all the things he CAN do, Shinichi retains a "chilled" attitude. He doesn't go around professing all of his accomplishments to other people (unlike Mouri who continues bragging about deductions he never did). As for defeating the BO, scratch out "thinks he can do it ON HIS OWN" because I'm 100% POSITIVE Shinichi acknowledges that he CAN'T do it alone. Why would he team up with Jodie, Akai (who's Okiya for now), James Black, and Hidemi if he thinks he can do it alone? He undoubtedly needs help from PROFESSIONALS who can assist Shinichi (or the other around). Please tell me in quotes of a time Shinichi proclaimed exactly what you said because I don't recall anything. If that were the case, Shinichi would've never needed assistance from Agasa (when he stole the CD program and needed Agasa to analyze it), from the FBI (during the whole Clash of Red and Black arc), and sometimes from Haibara (if Shinichi needed some BO info). Like I said before, Shinichi saying he will defeat the BO (whilst never stating he could do it alone) is an example of determination, not arrogance. Additionally, when he opposes getting loved ones involved, it's not because he thinks he could do it alone; it's because he would be distraught if their death was a consequence of his problems. As for taking responsibility, you're kidding right? Taking responsibility is INDEED parallel with humility. A man who doesn't take responsibility and puts forth the blame on someone else shows that he believes that he is NEVER wrong (everyone else is wrong, never him); THAT shows lack of humility and shows that his head is gorged ego. And yes, I acknowledge that Shinichi isn't the most humble person, but hell, that would mean NO ONE on this earth is humble. That's besides the point because Shinichi has definitely (key word) IMPROVED his humility, even if it wasn't a drastic improvement.

Episode 135: The Disappearing Weapon Case

FLIPS REPRESENT! :mrgreen:

But the Desperate Revival was AGES ago (probably months in the DC world). He had plenty to learn before as he has plenty to learn now. I'm just utterly confused as to how you can say he has not changed at all? First of all, Conan "tooting his own horn" after that restaurant case barely substantiates the ego that you propose Conan has. It was basically ironic humor that Conan acted as Shinichi on the phone, thus supposedly granting Shinichi an advantage (even though Shinichi was indeed involved in the investigation). It was pretty much an act of competitiveness between he and Heiji, friendly competition for that matter. Second, the whole "not telling the FBI" thing can sound vane on Shinichi's part, but perhaps he believes it was unnecessary at the time. His main priority is to subjugate the BO, while his motivation in doing so is to return to his original body. Maybe it IS pride that prohibits him from informing the FBI, but it's also probable that Shinichi just isn't ready to the spill the beans yet, since any hasty actions may have detrimental consequences. As for humility, there ARE indeed instances when Shinichi was humble. He admits his wrongdoings on several occasions (like how he blames himself everytime he sees Ran crying), he sometimes accredits the Detective Boys (like when they managed to find the cave exit during the Desperate Revival), he saves LOADS of people (whether it is Ran, Mouri, Haibara, the DB, secondary characters, etc.), he ABSOLUTELY DOES care about those closest to him (if he didn't have a shred of humility, why would he go out of his way to help them when they need him most?), and the list goes on and on... And lastly, yes, "Shinichi thinks he can take down the BO ON HIS OWN IN THE BODY OF A SEVEN YEAR OLD", but who says he is capable of doing it alone? Hell yeah he will need some assistance from others: the FBI, maybe Haibara, maybe Heiji, maybe Agasa. I see his confidence in defeating the BO as pure determination, not arrogance. So rather than being blinded by what Shinichi didn't do, why not consider the admirable things he DID do? In my eyes, he has developed humility. Not seeing any of Shinichi's character development AT ALL is pretty ignorant.

Welcome to DCW! And I do remember seeing your name quite often on the DCTP site.

+1 for random in-class doodles of Detective Conan. I like them. :mrgreen:

But you have to admit that his ego has slowly dwindled throughout the series. And he has a right to be arrogant around the Detective Boys (they can be annoying as hell!) However, he has dramatically improved his humility. Think back to the first ep when Shinichi was full of himself thinking he could do no wrong. Although he still could do no wrong (for the most part), I don't recall him ever gloating about himself and his extraordinary deduction abilities. He solves cases for the sake of others, not for his own selfish needs. Shinichi/Conan's sarcastic and condescending attitude towards the DB doesn't ring egotistical to me. If anything, it's Genta-kun who always thinks he's boss of the DB, even though he has little contribution to anything important.

A very considerable idea... Instead of telling you how great of an idea this is, I will turn your words into action. So if I were to examine CarpetCrawler's handwriting (it was the first one I could find), it would be something like this: CC has an intricate style of handwriting that defines his personality and well-being. -First, I will note that his disregard for writing above the given lines reveals his boldness. He represents an extravert, a person who would rather be a leader than a follower, because he wants to distinguish himself from others by using every two lines as a center for his writing. His bold personality is also evident in how large he writes; CC wants to draw the attention of others right away. In terms of speaking with someone, CC would be the dominant speaker of the conversation. -Second, CC's inconsistency with letter size (adjacent letters vary in height) and the lining of the letters show that he is careless about other people's perceptions of him (which is correspondent to his inattentiveness towards writing the letters the same size and in a straight line). He couldn't care less if a person despised the way he presents himself or how he feels on a certain subject; all that matters is that he stands for what he believes in, no matter who opposes him. -Although, his round and curvy letters (which are more "open" rather than "enclosed together") reveal that CC has agreeableness. He can be "open-minded" about agreeing with others as long as it abides to his own personal beliefs. In fact, he loves discovering the common ground he has with people. -Referring to punctuation, CC's usage of two, count 'em two, exclamation marks reveal his thought process of writing the statement. He wants to passionately tell readers that they should listen to the podcast by using more than one exclamation mark (one wouldn't nearly be as emotive), but three shows signs of desperation. Therefore, he sticks with two in order to neutralize between sounding too passive and sounding too aggressive. -Lastly, the heavy pressure he exerts on his writing utensil shows signs of confidence. Whether it is confidence in his arguments or confidence with how he is, CC isn't afraid to express his audacious persona. If he were to write lightly on paper, it would reveal insecurity; however, that isn't the case. Since it appears he has a firm grip on his pen, CC undoubtedly has inner strength, the strength of refraining himself from letting his guard down. I have no idea if my handwriting analysis is accurate or not, but I tried my best.

@Stopwatch Thanks for the Chinese scans.

To be honest, it took me like a whole minute to figure out what it was. *facepalm* But now that I see it, I think it's HELLA AMAZING! :mrgreen:

I write like a girl. (Spanish homework from 4 years ago) As to how I obtained such penmanship, that's a whole different story...

Welcome to DCW! Have a great time and post around.

Welcome to DCW! Considering that I'm a ShinRan, I really like this video. <3