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Poll: Who is the boss? (218 member(s) have cast votes)

Who is the boss?

  1. New Character (not yet introduced) (52 votes [23.85%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.85%

  2. Minor Character (appeared once or a few times before) (51 votes [23.39%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.39%

  3. Other known character not specifically mentioned below (26 votes [11.93%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.93%

  4. Relative of known character not yet introduced (13 votes [5.96%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.96%

  5. Someone else (5 votes [2.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.29%

  6. Agasa Hiroshi (19 votes [8.72%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.72%

  7. James Black (8 votes [3.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.67%

  8. Miyano Atsushi (7 votes [3.21%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.21%

  9. Elena Miyano (3 votes [1.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.38%

  10. Okino Yoko (7 votes [3.21%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.21%

  11. Okiya Subaru/Akai Shuuichi (3 votes [1.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.38%

  12. Yamamura Misae (2 votes [0.92%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.92%

  13. Matsumoto Kiyonaga (1 votes [0.46%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.46%

  14. Kudo Yuusaku (4 votes [1.83%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.83%

  15. Mouri Kogoro (5 votes [2.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.29%

  16. Kisaki Eri (8 votes [3.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.67%

  17. Sharon Vineyard (1 votes [0.46%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.46%

  18. Gin (3 votes [1.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.38%

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#821 Chekhov MacGuffin

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 12:06 AM

Oh really?

Gosho's interview says the name of the boss has appeared. Personally, to me that indicates the boss has likely not physically appeared because it is weird to intentionally specify the name only when you could say more simply the boss has appeared.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 08:22 AM

I look back at the manga. The suspects are: captain Radish Redwood, Akai and Sharon's husband. After I read the manga I'm not exactly sure is Sharon's husband dead, Akai has survive after his ordeal. Sharon's husband claimed dead from Sharon's words.
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 01:35 PM

I think Gosho had a contingency plan for an early end. Sherry was introduced in the chapter Akemi died as a silhouette showing Gosho had her in mind for a very long while and could use her if he was forced to end early. If you look at Okino Yoko, she had three cigarettes and a statue of liberty lighter in her apartment although she was never shown smoking since. Personally, I think she was supposed to be Vermouth, but then Gosho decided to recreate Vermouth as Chris/Sharon Vineyard when he realized he didn't have to rush because his ratings were good. Okino became a plain spare character.

That makes a lot of sense. I never brought Okino in the list of suspecious characters. Looks like i still have a lot of things to consider.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 05:25 PM

i guess atsuchi is a good guess


Yeah, that's definitely a good guess, since we've heard lots of little things about him without ever seeing him. Also he has the BO connection thing going.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 05:45 PM

i guess atsuchi is a good guess

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 07:16 PM

Gosho's interview says the name of the boss has appeared. Personally, to me that indicates the boss has likely not physically appeared because it is weird to intentionally specify the name only when you could say more simply the boss has appeared.

So, essentially this means that Gosho mentioned the name sometime in the continuity. However, I kinda feel that it's odd to just have the name.


I'm still thinking that the actual Anokata has appeared sometime in the series.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 04:42 PM


So, essentially this means that Gosho mentioned the name sometime in the continuity. However, I kinda feel that it's odd to just have the name.


I'm still thinking that the actual Anokata has appeared sometime in the series.

Possible right!I know is proof on the season 1 or 2.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 06:22 PM

well what if the person is said to be dead?? so he/she can't appear in person yet

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 09:48 PM

well what if the person is said to be dead?? so he/she can't appear in person yet

What the heck?

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 12:27 AM

well what if the person is said to be dead?? so he/she can't appear in person yet


What the heck?


If that's the case, then Anokata cannot continue to be the boss of the B.O.
After all, Gin is still receiving instructions from Anokata, so how can Anokata be dead?

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 09:59 AM

If that's the case, then Anokata cannot continue to be the boss of the B.O.
After all, Gin is still receiving instructions from Anokata, so how can Anokata be dead?

I think what he meant were characters like Atsushi, Elena, Renya... who were said to be dead, but actually still alive and currently leading the Org. (which I think is rather unlikely).

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 10:41 AM

Anokata's still alive. Gin and Vermouth are still recieving orders from him. Though it's hard to find someone even smarter, more cunning, more evil than Gin.

If Gin weren't so "EVIL" he would make a good detective. Anyone agree?
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 03:01 PM

exactly what i meant sheesh

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 03:51 PM

Possible right!I know is proof on the season 1 or 2.


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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:26 AM

Has anyone ever argued for Andre Camel? He still creeps me out and strikes me as incredibly untrustworthy. I'm wracking my brain to try and remember if there was any resolution to him telling Jodie he was calling his wife when he isn't married.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:09 PM

I agree with Madeline!!
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#837 Chekhov MacGuffin

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:35 PM

Has anyone ever argued for Andre Camel? He still creeps me out and strikes me as incredibly untrustworthy. I'm wracking my brain to try and remember if there was any resolution to him telling Jodie he was calling his wife when he isn't married.

His lie was a part of Akai's return Rena plan. Camel made a mistake on accident, but he meant nothing bad by it.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:50 PM

I think Gosho had a contingency plan for an early end. Sherry was introduced in the chapter Akemi died as a silhouette showing Gosho had her in mind for a very long while and could use her if he was forced to end early. If you look at Okino Yoko, she had three cigarettes and a statue of liberty lighter in her apartment although she was never shown smoking since. Personally, I think she was supposed to be Vermouth, but then Gosho decided to recreate Vermouth as Chris/Sharon Vineyard when he realized he didn't have to rush because his ratings were good. Okino became a plain spare character.

Going along the lines of Chek's theory here, does that also imply that maybe Yusaku and Yukiko were possible BO members/Anokata? When they first appear early on, they act out an entire and completely unrealistic kidnapping and pretending to be Organization members "play", tricking Conan into thinking they were evil. Maybe Gosho first thought up of the idea and planned to have them turn out to actually be BO members, but when he realized he didn't have to end it that soon, he made a change of plans and added an alternate ending?

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 09:45 AM

The black organization members call him 'that person or Anokata'. Its mentioned in the wiki. But I don't think it is any one we know in DC

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 09:33 PM

The black organization members call him 'that person or Anokata'. Its mentioned in the wiki. But I don't think it is any one we know in DC

well don't you think they call the boss that way cause the boss name is well know so to keep mystery

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