User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin/Archive 2

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Welcome![edit]

Hello there, Chekhov! Glad to see that you're here! Feel free to contribute your great threads/theories on DCTP. CarpetCrawlermessage me 21:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

RE: Congrats on becoming a mod at DCTP[edit]

Thank you for the kind words!! BTW, glad to see that you'll be doing some work for the wiki once again. If you have any questions about how things work (Though it's pretty similar to how it works at Wikipedia), let me know. Looking forward to see what you'll do here!! CarpetCrawlermessage me 17:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

RE: Template standardization[edit]

First of all, thanks for the initiative! :) Regarding the template, I'd convert it into a "DCW"-flavored layout (so that we're not too much like wikipedia in the way we present things - plus we like to focus on presentation, readability and attractiveness/user-friendliness in our own unique way). For example, songs have the pink color here in this wiki. It's alright, I'll have a quick look if you don't mind and see how nice I can make it look like. As for the documentation, we don't really use the Doc template here since we're certainly not as big as wikipedia (which does need to centralize a lot of their processes). We can simply include a "usage" section in the template itself in between <noinclude> tags, a bit like how it was done here: Template:InfoBox_Music. I hope that answers your questions! Btw, don't forget to edit Anokata to redirect the link to the song to its local page here. Keep up the great work! :) --Maurice 20:22, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I also just added a video to the song! Quite a nice melancholic song. --Maurice 23:18, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Confusion[edit]

I are you sure Ethan Hondou is one of the Black Organization? I don't see him on the chart. --S261157 18:48, 2 January 2011(UTC)

Understood[edit]

I see. I understand. Anyway, I put Ethan Hondou back in Black Organization. --S261157 23:56, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Just like I said to S261157, I'll stop changing Sato's picture; but a little variation on pictures once in a while is ok, right? (If it's not a "revert war") -Formmy

Is Okiya a Rival to Scar meaning Scar is Not BO but likely FBI[edit]

The way I see it is that the way Okiya reacted to Scar no getting shot leads me to believe they are not enemies but rivals. A enemy would be glad at the others misfortune. Okiya remark smiling "wolfs missing their prey". To me it seems like he was glad scar was not killed. if Scar had been Okiya's Enemy, I would have expected a remark like "Rats! he is still alive" Also suggesting Okiya is a rival to Scar is Okiya reaction to Conan about how Conan prevent Scar getting killed again with that smile. He seem glad Conan interfered, and did not say something to Conan like "why do you do that" -sstimson-

It's nice to see you stop by!
Going by the Endless Youth translation... "It's just a silly story about how some stupid wolves let their prey get away."
My interpretation of that quote was that Okiya was being ironic. If you go by the theory that scar Akai is Bourbon, Okiya noticed scar Akai was on the floor with him and that Chianti was set up to kill someone. Okiya realized that the person the BO was after was scar Akai, and that Gin and friends had made a mistake. Okiya knew scar Akai managed to safely get away without being shot because there was no panic about someone being shot outside the store. His comment was a sarcastic remark that the "stupid wolves" (BO) who were trying to kill their own agent by mistake not only let the guy they were trying to kill (scar Akai) get away, but they also completely overlooked the real Akai (Okiya). Okiya called it a silly story because the mixup made the BO look foolish.
Okiya already figured out why Conan acted to keep scar Akai from being shot; Conan wanted to keep everyone safe without knowing the full situation. Also Conan is the type that wouldn't want to let anyone die, even a murderer or a member of the BO, and I think Okiya can appreciate that viewpoint.
Even if you go by the theory that Scar Akai is Bourbon and Okiya is Akai, it could be that Akai views Bourbon more as a "rival enemy" rather than a "mortal enemy" like Gin. We know that Bourbon hates Akai, but Akai might not view Bourbon with the same amount of hate. Chekhov MacGuffin 19:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
I think by the time Conan "called" customers back in. He did not know Okiya was there. He assume Scar Akai is real Akai so he try to save him. -User 4869
I don't think Conan was sure who scar Akai was at the time. His "Could it..." "Could it be..." may be followed up by "Bourbon?" or "Vermouth?" because I'm sure, following the bank heist, Conan thinks it doesn't make sense that Akai was out of disguise in public and would happen to appear at a place where the FBI were. (Remember Conan knows Okiya is Akai) After the bank heist, Conan is probably leaning towards the real Akai not being a fool and that someone was impersonating him for some reason, probably a member of the Org. Conan's only info comes from the DB, so he might think scar Akai could be Vermouth who might act to save hm from the bank robber.
Back at the dept store, when Jodie grabbed him, Conan had a really nervous expression, but it changed when Jodie mentioned the coaster with the warning Akai's writing on it. I think Conan becomes confused because leaving a warning like that is something the real Akai might do, so he decides to protect whoever this scar Akai is now and figure it out later. Luckily Okiya steps in and clarifies things for Conan with his "I know that person from a long time ago" quote. Chekhov MacGuffin 17:17, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Can you Check something for me?[edit]

I made a new article : http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Cuff_Link_Speakers

Can you check the Romanji Name for it? I used a translator and got kafurinkusupiikaa above some japanese words. Thankss

BTW Thanks for editing!

Next Conan's hint, Bullet?[edit]

In the the anime version of the Teito bank heist case, scar Akai's scar and the skin where the duct tape which had covered his eyes are visible. In the manga, it is much more ambiguous; the gun and the shadow of the hat scar Akai is wearing hide the scar and the part of his face where the tape had been removed from his eyes. If Scar Akai is someone wearing a mask this could result in an anime error.

What is your opinion of "Next Conan's hint" from Episode 503 (which is bullet) since in next episode (504) only time bullets were use is when Kir shot Akai. Can it be interpret as "The bullet is fake" You appear to avoid to mention non-conan scene when Okiya appear in the same time as Kaitou Kid to prove Okiya is not Kid. I wonder if you discard the Hint thing for the same reason. -User 4869-

Yeah, I tend to avoid using things from the anime as evidence since it is unreliable for hints. They make mistakes like turning Fusae Campbell and Billy into generic looking shadow people when they followed the detective boys, and even recently messing up scar Akai's shooting scene. (See picture at right) The bullet could be a hint that Akai was going to "die", or that a "silver bullet" was involved, or maybe Gosho tipped off the animators and it really was a hint the bullets were blanks. Who knows? Chekhov MacGuffin talk 05:45, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh yeah, here's a link you might be interested in: Fusae Campbell#Plot overview. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 07:46, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah[edit]

I know this is probably the most pointless talk page message you're ever gonna get, but I'm glad to see someone else do what I did with the signature!! :O CarpetCrawlermessage me 08:49, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I didn't realize, but now I think they look too similarly themed. I will have to rectify that somehow.Chekhov MacGuffin talk
Bleh. Messed around a bit, but didn't find a style I liked that fit in the sig char limit requirements. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 18:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Elena Miyano and Atsushi Miyano[edit]

Sure thing. Just did it. --Maurice 23:19, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Grammar Changes[edit]

I changed the Grammar a little bit from Gin and Akai Shuuichi and Gin and Sherry. Great Articles BTW! -- Cheesus

Re: Plot overviews[edit]

Okay, I get the point. However, personally I would recommend establishing Plot Overviews on their own entry pages, as I think that for sone characters these would get too extensive, even in abbreviated form, for the main description to hold comfortably. A link (for instance "See: Conan Edogawa key situations" or something) leading to those entries would be suggested.
In addition, I think it would also be better if the Character Background included a brief summary of how the character was introduced to Detective Conan. I noticed that you re-added the sections describing how Heiji Hattori had first met and eventually found out about Shinichi/Conan's secret to the Plot Overview section. From the narrative style angle, I personally say: not recommendable. The character's introduction should blend into the respective Background as smoothly as possible, and then the Plot Overview can flesh out the details of he first meetings and then pick up from there. At least, that's how I would have done it.
And by the way, one last message: The section you re-added to Sango Yokomizo's Personality section about him having never learned to swim is already included in the Background section and is therefore a bit superfluous.Daniel46 17:21, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Precisely what I'm talking about! For instance, Heiji's and Kazuha's backgrounds should in any case include how they first met Conan and company and how friendly relationships were established, something I have relocated to the Background sections in some cases. Finer and more details should be contained in the Plot Overviews, like, for Ai Haibara, her encounters with the Black Organization, how her love interest - if she really gets one - evolves in the series etc., while the gist of it should be mentioned in the Background section, if it significantly shapes her character evolvement. I think the summarization work I've done so far should serve as an adequate example for this style.Daniel46 18:29, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps it's a misunderstanding or a poor choice of expression from my part, but I think just the same. I've just included a summarization of how Conan managed to dissuade Vermouth from pursuing Ai anymore in Shiho's/Ai's Background section. Exactly HOW this was achieved can be dealt with in detail in the Plot Overview, if one would want to cover this. Likewise, I think the appearance of Subaru (suspected Bourbon) is likewise worth a subsection which I have called "The boling point" in the Background part, since I think this encounter is highly significant. Exactly how significant it acutally turns out must be found as the series continues. I hope it won't be too long before Aoyama finally comes to a resolution, though; after all, DC has been running on for 6 years already!Daniel46 18:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Setting Sources?[edit]

Could you please provide your sources for the edits you made for the Setting page? Things like "District 5" and the "B" you list for Shin'ichi's residence. The only known source for his address I've found is Movie 1, and there is no mention of him living in "house B". It wouldn't make sense. The reason Holmes is mentioned to live in 221B Baker Street is the number of the flat and the specific room he's located in. The Kudous own that entire house and it's not split up like a duplex or something similar, so why would the "B" be necessary? EDIT: Found another reference for Shin'ichi's house. Conan Drill page 41 lists the address as I previously had listed on the page minus the "B".

At any rate, please provide references for your information. :) --Skyechan 21:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikilinks[edit]

Just a little note regarding links to wikipedia. It seems that using [[wiki:Somelink]] doesn't quite work. What we normally use here is: [[wikipedia:Somelink]]. Thanks. :) --Maurice 21:40, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it's me[edit]

And I got no idea how to work this site T_T --Abs. 22:50, 18 January 2011 (UTC) I'll need some time to look over all that T_T Or I can just do as I've been doing: Add stuff, and hope someone fixes it for me XD --Abs. 23:32, 18 January 2011 (UTC) I'm going to guess that ^ is in a box because of the space in front -_-; --Abs. 23:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Alright I've got the hang of some of the basic formatting and such but the best way to get me to do anything to contribute to this site is still gonna be for you to request it of me ^_^ --Abs. talk to me 02:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Vodka[edit]

Haha! That's awesome! xD;; Unfortunately without the use of furigana my ability to read my own Conan Drill book is very limited. Keep up the awesome work! --Skyechan 00:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Canon vs. Non-Canon[edit]

By "a user", do you mean Abs.? :)

Regarding the canon vs. non-canon content flagging, I hear you. Although we do already have a "Manga source" label in an episode's profile box (e.g. Roller Coaster Murder Case) as well as a "Manga source" column for season lists which says if the episode is an AO or manga-based (i.e. which files and chapters it's from), adding color to the mix would indeed be a nice touch. And you're right about the other pages: it would be harder to tell if a piece of info is canon or not. And labeling these pieces of information as such would be even harder. Maybe we'll be able to think of some kind of syntax or code (e.g. color code) to flag explicit non-canon statements. I'm used to facing such "presentation" challenges so I'll see if I can think of a neat way of doing this. But to be honest, I would say that it's not quite a priority at this time as long as, for example, non-canon info is referenced as such with proper citations (and because they don't represent a necessity on the readability, comprehension and user-friendliness fronts --> it's really just an extra feature).

But to go back to the episodes, I believe we can come up with some better labeling system for their profile pages. I wouldn't color the whole page like you suggested since, as per wikipedia's standards, some background-colored pages do hold certain meanings, such as system, projects, portal pages (and more...). We're not quite using something similar here "yet", but it could happen in the future, who knows. Something like a "Magic Kaito" portal, etc... What we could do in our situation here would be to style the profile box of an AO episode differently. Again, we may need to think of a nice layout and some standard for that as well. I'll definitely spend some time thinking about possible styling options and see what could be great candidates for our purposes. Once again, I wouldn't say this is a priority either but since it's easier to do (and really a nice plus), we can focus on this one for now.

Thanks for the good ideas btw! And I'll see if I can play around with the BO chart table when I have some time (I totally own those ebil tables >:P). --Maurice 00:34, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Curses! I've been exposed! --Abs. talk to me 00:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Detective Conan Drill?[edit]

Ive seen you talk about it and i was wondering what it was? Also if its a book(I suspect it is) is it translated or something? Cheesus 22:08, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Re: Orphaned files which need to be snubbed out[edit]

You should be able to delete them by clicking on the "delete" tab at the top of the corresponding image's page (e.g. "delete" tab on File:Okiya_Akai_Face_Compare.PNG). Let me know if it doesn't work or if you encounter any issue. --Maurice 23:54, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Done and done. CarpetCrawlermessage me 00:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks CC. Interesting. I always thought users could delete pictures too (you can delete normal pages though right?). But in a way it does make sense cause it could be more troublesome (as in more resource-intensive at the server level) to restore a picture than normal text if there is vandalism, hence why the privilege may not be given to users by default. --Maurice 00:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


Re: Meaning Of X[edit]

thank you for the explanation!

RE: Thanks[edit]

Not a prob. --lashedcheek 21:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Gin[edit]

in the plot overview of Gin is this sectoun for cannon only or non cannon as well as he relates to movie 5 trying to kill Ai. --Cheesus 22:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh i see. Thankyou --Cheesus 18:08, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Kyousuke Kazato[edit]

But Irish was part of the BO, which is quite a substantial fact by itself, making him an "important person". It seems the character Kyousuke Kazato was only introduced for the purpose of the movie and nothing else (plus he was arrested, which means he won't be appearing again). I just see him as one of the people involved in the movie's "case" and should as such be presented/mentioned on the movie's page only. However, he could have his own section/subsection on the article page to describe in details the character and his role/impact in the movie. But I'm definitely open to suggestion. How do you see him? --Maurice 01:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I see what you mean. I guess it wouldn't bother me too much either but if we make a page for him, we should logically make pages for other such characters who only appear for a specific case. However, what we could do in the future is a "List of culprits" page (which we could break down into anime cases, movie cases, etc...). And, even further down the road, we could have a "List of suspects" page, etc... We could make redirects for the names to the subsections of those lists. Just an idea for now. --Maurice 01:54, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your help and for telling me Kyousuke's name in Japan.--DetectiveX 06:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Samizu Kichiemon Profile image[edit]

I know it looks clear and better but it has to be the image from the anime. --S261157 00:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Well I think it looks better to me. Anyway let's just get this over with. --S261157 00:59, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry I'll make it clear looking. Just hold on!! --S261157 01:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I got it I got ya! I'll be working on it right now! --S261157 01:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Two more pictures to delete[edit]

Done! --Maurice 16:39, 4 February 2011 (UTC)


Random questions for Chekohov[edit]

Er... I have no idea how to post on this thing, and I'm just a random DC fan who has been reading Chekhov's opinions for a while, but I have a few questions:

1. http://www.dctp.ws/V55-Reader/V55-2Read/A18.html Something about Natsuki turning to Conan to ask him this question bothers me, but I can't put my finger on it... am I overreacting?

It was definitely deliberate. Conan didn't hide his intellect during that case much. She was treating him as someone knowledgeable.Chekhov MacGuffin talk 03:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

2. The other thing is the entire case of the Night Baron bothers me -- the one with the floppy disk and the guests at the hotel. I'm not sure why, but it just... does for some reason. Checkhov, are there any cases out there that just bother you? Like you feel like when you watch it, you're missing something?

Thanks Chekhov!!

-Anon fan

Night baron case with the disk: You can read more about the Kaneshiro family here. I wonder if the reference to the Org at the beginning was because the Nigh Baron virus would be would be used later? The biggest unsolved mystery for me is Akai's rejection from the Org story. I have already pinpointed the part that bothers me: the random old guy who walks in and sits down. It doesn't make sense that the guy is Vermouth because they were testing Akai to see if he was worthy to meet Gin and not setting a trap. Using Vermouth would be throwing a different executive agent to the wolves. It had to be someone else. Do they matter? How Akai found James Black in the Panda case still bothers me to this day. Itakura and the history of his program bugs me a little because I keep wondering if there were more hints about what it was about. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 03:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Episode title profile pictures[edit]

Now that you mention it, there's never really been a consensus or official standard for that. As far as I can recall, it was an idea CC suggested a long time ago: User_talk:Maurice#Images. I personally don't mind having a picture from the episode as the profile picture. It would indeed be more colorful and expressive. I'd say go ahead and start changing those images. If the need for further discussion arises from this, we may have to add an "official standard" later to the MoS. --Maurice 03:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan. As for the naming convention, I was thinking that we could rename the title cards to, say, "TV_Episode_X_Titlecard.jpg" (old conventional naming scheme + "_Titlecard" suffix). As for the actual profile screenshot (i.e. for the profile box), we can keep the current naming convention: TV_Episode_X.jpg. Actually, now that I think about it, we could even get rid of the "TV_' prefix since the fact it's an "Episode" already makes it clear what's it's about (moreover, OVA and Movies are already named OVA_X.jpg and Movie_X.jpg). I think it would also be a wise idea to start adding categories to those images, such as "Episode profile images", etc... --Maurice 03:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Re: Disguise[edit]

No problem :) My Wiki abilities may be poor but I hope I can be useful in your page that is still in progress. I will give it my best shot ;)

  • I thought I was lost! I am glad you came :D I liked the edit you've done to my work. Mmmm... now for some Kaitou Kid's disguise images... Officer KaokoChit Chat

Question[edit]

Can you contact Gosho Aoyama? --S261157 23:59, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Nope. Wish I could though. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 00:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Maps on the setting page[edit]

I know you were asking Maurice, but just wanted to let you know the maps show up fine for me. Don't know if that helps. :) --Skyechan 11:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Maps on the setting page.[edit]

If you were talking about the Google maps, it could have been some external factor (the connection to their server was temporary down or blocked? etc..). Glad it's working again. I didn't notice anything myself. --Maurice 14:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Naming conventions[edit]

Please check out Detective_Conan_Wiki:Discussion#Naming_conventions_in_titles for further discussion regarding the naming conventions. Thanks. --Maurice 18:23, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Stuff from Wikipedia.[edit]

I know. The page already exists, and how it was copied and pasted was kind of messy. I meant no offence to our respected member... though I think I wrote the wrong summary for the edit. When copied and pasted the note numbers were shown large. And it was all at mess... so I figured out it was copied from the wiki. I couldn't explain so I wrote that instead :/ I will write to Wowo soon :) Sorry for making you write this Dx Officer Kaoko 19:39, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Woah, who's this guy who wrote beneath me? Sound evil >:( Never mind, thanks for worrying and informing me. I really appreciate it! :D Oh, and Check, I have another piece of info to add to the Scar Akai = Bourbon theory. It kinda awkward but...
The reason why the clerks can't remember a man with a scar buying at the department store is the possibility that at the time when Scar Akai (Bourbon) bought the hat, he wasn't in disguise xD

And you know the hat that Jodie was fussing about in the department store? The mark at the back of the hat seems kinda similar to the flag that was on Conan's trousers. But Jodie described it as 'one point'. Ummm... Possibly just my imagination! xD --Officer Kaoko 08:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Scar Akai's hat of evil[edit]

No, no, no. I told you this to hear your opinion and your point of view, then write it in the wiki if I was right. Wow, I don't mind at all, I will choose you write it. I am not good in writing essays and stuff. Thanks a lot! ^_^ --Officer Kaoko 21:12, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry[edit]

Hi and listen. I just wanted to let you know that I did something wrong because putting Seung Jin is just a big prank and I apologize for everything that I cause trouble. So please let's forget about Seung Jin, all the jerk things I said, and let's just keep up the good work on Detective Conan wiki. What do you say? - 69.150.187.185

Please[edit]

Please don't call me Seung! And I'm asking you this: Could you please remove the Blacklist Seung Jin information? PLEASE?!! I will be satisfied if you do that.

Do not delete stuff off my talk page, or I am going to block you. You have been given at least three warnings about this. I'll archive it, so it won't be readily visible, but if you don't like its existence, then you shouldn't have vandalized in the first place. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 17:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Junk?[edit]

Did you say JUNK?!!! Don't you ever say that! Ever! Seung Jin is not JUNK!!!!!! You made me mad already. And also it's because you never answer to my response and I decided to deleted the Seung Jin information. But since you can't do that, that there's one thing I must say to you, you're one despicable administrator! >:(

Mad[edit]

I've gone mad right now because of what you done! I'm putting cuss words on every user because of YOU!!! >:(

HELP[edit]

This user 69.150.187.185 put F-word on my user talk. Did you made him mad or something? --S261157 23:16, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Magic Kaito timeline[edit]

The Magic Kaito timeline takes place at the same time of the Detective Conan timeline, despite both of them being frozen. This can be proven in many ways:

-In both the first chapter of MK and Kid's debut in DC, 8 years have passed since Kid's disappearence.

-All MK chapters take place in a short amount of time, since charcacters always attend the second year of high school. Kaito has only a year left to find Pandora and in DC he is still after it.

-In Kid's debut in DC, in the end, both Kaito and Aoko have Ekoda High school uniform, meaning that they haven't gradueated yet.

-Hakuba is 17 in both Dc appearences, as aspected from a second grader.

-In volume 4 of MK, the frame of chapters 3-4 is set simultaneously of Kid's debut in DC, while the flashback is set when Shinichi is already famous, just before he was shrunk.

Sorry for possible grammar mistake, English is not my first language and midnight has already passed here. Bye. --87.9.10.66 22:06, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


As you said, in V16-6, chapter 156, or anime ep 76, that Agasa said, "Shinichi-kun, I have compiled some information from your father's files and the recent newspapers, but Kaitou 1412 still seems to be shrouded by mystery. He first appeared 18 years ago in Paris. Ten years later, he suddenly disappeared, and many said he passed away. However, now, eight years later, he has resurrected and is now mostly active in Japan".

Kid first appeared 18 years ago. Ten years later [i.e. 8 years ago] he suddently disappeared. He has "resurrected" eight years later, i.e. eight years after his disappearence eight years ago, i.e. few months ago. Read also the evidence I posted above. Bye.--81.174.2.239 09:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you...[edit]

for taking care of my talk page. :) --lashedcheek 00:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Please[edit]

Mr. MacGuffin, can you please leave the way of how the Law Enforcement section goes? I like it really better when the characters are on the list of Other State Police. Please, I would really appreciate it of how that goes. --S261157 01:40, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Question about double agents[edit]

Hi, it's Random Fan again (who asked about the Kaneshiro family a while back). Chekhov, do you think that there are any people within FBI/CIA/"The Good Guys" who are actually double agents working for Black Syndicate? I don't mean Mizunashi Rena, but someone else like Jodie Jodie Santemillion (Saint Emilion being a wine!), Andre Camel, or James Black?

Sorry if I messed up your formatting. - Belmonts Gun

Request[edit]

Mr. MacGuffin, I have a request for you. Could you go to Lupin III vs. Detective Conan and can you upload Lupin III, Jigen, Fujiko, Goemon, and Zenigata's images that's 100 px on the Cast section? For me, it takes a long time to make into a square shape so could you please do that? I would really apprecaite it. --S261157 01:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Question[edit]

Who's Detective Korita? Is he one of the important characters? How old are you? (Just curious) --S261157 20:26, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Question[edit]

Older than 20? --S261157 20:53, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Reason[edit]

Because it doesn't look good. The big title says Law Enforcement and doesn't look good when it says Main article: Law Enforcement and Minor Law Enforcement. Besides when people click Law Enforcment, they can still find The minor law enforcent. --S261157 20:49, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Okay! Okay! Okay! Okay! All right! All right! Chill! Ok, I understand and I didn't know. There, happy? --S261157 22:07, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
I scared poor S261157 without meaning to. :( Chekhov MacGuffin talk 22:19, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Please go ahead. And I am sorry. (for not knowing that you're not grumpy?) --S261157 22:21, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
That looks wrong when you put Minor law enforcement --S261157 22:24, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
No, it looks wrong to me and no, I don't mean capitalization. --S261157 22:29, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Huh? --S261157 23:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
No, they don't match. But come on, Just put main article: Law Enforcement. That's it. Let's just get this over with? Savy? --S261157 23:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Okay, look, when Maurice agrees about your idea, then idea accepted, and if he agrees not, then leave the way it's supposed to be. Do we have a deal? --S261157 23:42, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I was having dinner. --S261157 23:57, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

That's okay[edit]

No, that's okay. Besides I already created it and why don't you please take a look at Lupin III vs. Detective Conan. --S261157 22:40, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. And they're old versions. If you have any idea to upload a new version image in Cast section, please go ahead. --S261157 22:43, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Obviously, I know that. --S261157 22:49, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh no no no, what I mean that we both know to do uploading images, I'm just telling you can change it or not. --S261157 22:55, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Sorry. --S261157 23:08, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Help[edit]

I need your help, Mr. MacGuffin. I don't know to create the info box. I'm trying to create the InfoBox Game. Can you go to Games and find this game called Detective Conan and Kindaichi Case Files? Do you know how to create the InfoBox? --S261157 2:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I tried and failed. Ask Maurice. He's better at this stuff than me. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 03:07, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Template display issues[edit]

Hmm, they look exactly the same to me. And I used the standards from Wikipedia to make the template. To sum up, it behaves exactly like that on Wikipedia as well. I don't see any weirdness or bug about the template... So, I'm not sure what could be wrong here.

And as for having multiple articles in the "main" template, it is perfectly fine as well. That's how Wikipedia does it too. The "main" template was made to handle several links (and a lot of them). However, I could maybe see where S261157 is coming from when saying to leave it as Law Enforcement only: having the two links like that looks like presenting a general topic then a subset of that same topic. It's more common to use many "main" articles when they compliment each other or extend on two similar but different subjects. It could seem a bit redundant and possibly confusing to the reader (who could maybe ask why we have two links to introduce the Law Enforcement topic in DC). I must admit I'm ok with both ways though. It might be simpler to leave it as Law Enforcement and simply further guide the reader on the corresponding page if he/she wants to know more about minor characters. What are your thoughts on the subject? --Maurice 01:30, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Mind your own business[edit]

Look, Mr. MacGuffin, this is a talk between Maurice-sama and me. Mind your own business and this doesn't compromises your judgement. --S261157 17:30, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Fine[edit]

(Sigh) Okay, fine. Sorry. --S261157 18:30, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Hold it[edit]

Ms. MacGuffin, please, let me upload it right away. --S261157 00:01, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Well I think it has to be one box each parts. I'm going to make it like just like Hatamoto cruise case, or moonlight shadow island. Please tell Maurice-sama about it. --S261157 00:06, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Wait just give me a chance, Ms. MacGuffin. I trying to make things better. --S261157 00:18, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
ALL DONE!!!!! Take a look! Take a look! :) --S261157 00:18, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes indeed, we already established that it's better (and MUCH clearer) to have separate crime boxes in a given article for so many reasons (i.e. more reader-friendly, more details can be given, better images for each crime, crimes can be different -such as murder and robbery-, better description for each crime, clearer list of suspects/victims/locations per crime, and so on...). I actually already kind of implied the possibility to have several crime boxes in the manual of style for cases images. As for character appearances, we should indeed update the Manual of Style with some standard. I'll see what can be done there. --Maurice 00:32, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh come on, I like those better. I like Lashedcheek's work and it's super perfect!!!! One crime box in each parts is fine with me. Just like the Ghost ship murder case. --S261157 01:07, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't quite actually understand about wiki grows or something. But you know it's 3 crimes in Part 1 in Holmes Freak Murder Case. And it's best to do it just like the other three episodes. --S261157 01:18, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Understood[edit]

Okay, okay. I understand, Ms. MacGuffin. --S261157 22:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Advice[edit]

Ms. MacGuffin, can you try to contact Shogakukan at info@shogakukan.co.jp? I try to ask them a question of that they can contact the authors like Gosho Aoyama. But they won't respond to me. I was thinking maybe it was the tsunami problem. There's also another thing that I just don't get it. If the Detective Conan manga always get published at Shogakukan. Why don't they ever respond to my question? Of course I send them a message by using Japanese language and English message (just in case) but why won't they ever respond to me? So you know I was kind of asking you a favor. Can you try to contact Shogakukan at info@shogakukan.co.jp? --S261157 04:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Uhm....hello? Aren't you going to answer me? I just want to talk to you. Can you talk to me about it? The Shogakukan? --S261157 20:20, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

One page or multipage case?[edit]

I think it's alright to have them be on the same page due to the way the episodes are set up: they indeed act like "parts" even though the titles are different. It would be more convenient for the reader to read about the cases if they're told in the same context, and thus the same article. When I face a typical challenge like this, I always put myself in the reader's shoes and think of what's more convenient and the best way to convey the information. So, I think it makes sense in this case to talk about the different episodes on one single page. I'm just curious though. Where did you get the names for the case titles: "Tomorrow is There" and "Thirteen Red Shirts"? Or did you make those up? --Maurice 01:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Please[edit]

Ms. MacGuffin please I beg you!! Please chage the way it was before. I so do not like this. On The Crisis Beckoned by the Red Omen. Thats's not how it supposed to be!!! One episode has to be one episode! Yeah of course it's like 1/2 cases but still, please chage it back please I beg you! It's my turn to ask you and please can you do it? --S261157 21:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

That's not fair!
But still I don't want it to be like that!! Please! Change it back. Im asking you as a favor.

Unfair[edit]

I cannot believe you blocked me. You know what, I don't understand you at all. You said anyone can edit anything. But you get to do anything you want huh? (Sniff) Anyways, were through! I don't want to talk to you at all. If it's your idea, then so be it. (Sob) --S261157 23:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't understand[edit]

I don't understand, yesterday we had a bad time and now you're still being nice to me? I said I don't want to talk to you but you still want to talk to me? Why? --S261157 20:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay uhm thanks. I think. --S261157 20:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Need third opinion[edit]

I've read the discussion between you guys and I don't think this is as big of a deal as it seems... I believe speculations in this wiki are alright as long as they're backed up by intelligent comments and contextual references. I also think it's a good idea to separate facts sections from speculations ones so that the reader knows what he/she's getting into. For example Subaru_Okiya#Identity implies that we're getting into the realm of speculations since his "identity" is unknown. In this case, this section is valid and has merit. The point is that users may want to look for well-informed objective views on a subject at times and as a "fansite wiki", we have the potential and power to do so. We want a wiki that relays facts but that can make you think as well. That's not a bad thing. Even Wikipedia sometimes have speculation sections on specific subjects/topics because it makes sense to do so. Just one example after a very quick search on google: Royston Cave. Anyway, that about sums up my thoughts I think. --Maurice 18:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Why[edit]

Why can't I?

Well then i'll just put all the links instead.

Permission[edit]

May I PLEASE change The Crisis Beckoned by the Red Omen into the way it was before? Please answer me. --S261157 00:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Desperate[edit]

This is 69.150.21.53, Listen, I can't take it anymore! I did not get good night sleeps over weeks. You're killing me right now! I want you to delete everything about SJ information. I'm really sorry about the trouble I cause. Please please please. Delete everything about SJ information. People might see it on your talk page and your archive because it so embarrassing. Don't want Aoyama to see this either. Please please please delete every information about SJ and I'm really desperate about it.

Sorry but that is not what I mean. I mean delete every bad thing I said. I don't want Aoyama to see SJ either.
Rest assured Aoyama doesn't visit my talk page. I doubt Aoyama has even heard of DCW, DCTP or any of the English fan forums. He probably couldn't read it even if he did. I realize the name "SJ" is somewhat uncommon and could possibly lead to this page being google searched especially in coordination with Detective Conan. So I have abbreviated it to just the initials so it cannot be found via google search. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 18:05, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Are you sure he doesn't go this website and might not understand English? I know he understands Japanese alot and he reads English a little.
99.9% Positive, and I am 100% positive he isn't going to read random user's pages like mine. His English isn't that good if you saw the London case before the English translators fixed the English to match the Japanese. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 18:27, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Which means he is still so busy working on manga? He doesn't go to this wiki at all huh?
According to interviews with him, he says he has no time for anything else. There is a link to the website with that interview somewhere on the DCW forums. The breaks in the manga he spends working on the movies and things like that. If he was ever going to visit a Detective Conan Wiki, he would go to a Japanese one. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 18:33, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
I believe he might have time reading mail letters. That's the only official way to contact him. He might read mail letters if he has time. On dcfc, they said if you want to contact him, send him a letter. He will read mail letters if he has time right?
You can contact him by mail, but you may not get a reply. Also, don't expect him to answer your questions or return a letter in less than a month. You could always send him lots of letters and hope for a reply to one. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 18:53, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
So sending him a alot of letters will may work. But it always takes time right? Also it doesn't say he doesnt have time to do anything on the interview.

Archive Banner[edit]

May I ask, are you making that template? --conanshinichi 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 18:17, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

I might have a go.--conanshinichi 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 18:32, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Right I've kinda done it here
L'edit Yea I think It's working


Detective Boys Template[edit]

Can I use it? link thanx--conanshinichi 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 15:47, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

RE: Letting you know[edit]

Thanks! --Maurice 17:47, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

RE: Episode Picture[edit]

Ok, sorry for that. --conanshinichi 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 17:52, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Right I've re-uploaded it

thanx --conanshinichi 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 20:08, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey[edit]

Hey how many times do I have to tell you. Don't you ever call me that!!!!!!

It's your name, what else can I use? You don't have an account and the only other way I have to reference you, your IP number, changes every day. It's not like I typed it out either. I think you are being overly sensitive to this. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 20:30, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Call me, Yong.

OVA[edit]

where do you find OVA 11 secret London? I don't see it on YouTube. Only preview.

[1]
What is this?

By the way[edit]

Is Detective Conan vs. Wooo another different OVA?

It's an advertisement using Conan. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 00:07, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Suzuki Sonoko[edit]

Thanks for the lookup and clarification! --Maurice 17:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

RE: Juzo Megure Appearances[edit]

Haha, thank you very much! Yeah, browsing through all those chapters took a VERY long time. My eyes are still watering from it as I type this. When I saw your nice comment on my Talk page last night, it really made me smile knowing that somebody noticed. I would have said something sooner but my eyes were about ready to go blind from staring at the computer screen so long! I'm not sure if I'm supposed to respond on my Talk page or on yours, so hopefully this is in the right place! Thanks again! --Jigsaw 17:21, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Vermouth[edit]

In case you didn't catch my addition to the discussion page: Why don't we do like on the other character pages to avoid controversy and ruffling each other's feathers and move all speculations to the "Fan Theories" section that goes underneath the "Character Popularity" section? See Kaitou Kid for example. --Skyechan 21:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Award[edit]

Conan Edogawa.jpg
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Wiki Medal of the Contributor
I hereby award you this Wiki Medal of the Contributor for your outstanding work on so many topics mainly related to character development, timelines, theories and more - Maurice 14:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

RE: Heads up on Vermouth issue[edit]

Yeah, I'm aware of the issue going on. It looks like you haven't seen what the IP wrote on my talk page yet: User talk:Maurice#From IP 109.235.49.143. I also already replied today: User talk:109.235.49.143. I also believe this is a bit silly and hopefully we can come up with some kind of consensus of some sort. --Maurice 03:34, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Added moderator icon to your page[edit]

I added a moderator icon to your user page. Just letting you know. Check the top right corner of your user page. CarpetCrawlermessage me 03:33, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Name[edit]

My name is Yong!!!!!!!! And they can't be links in people section.

HEY I'M TALKING TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But still I do not want links in people section! Please let me remove links on the people section. Please!

Please[edit]

I said please. Please! Were not done talking!

Forget it[edit]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!! I'VE HAD IT WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is why nobody likes you!! Were done!!!!! >:(

I'm not sure how to best put this, but if you are getting this emotional and bent out of shape because we allow wikilinks in the people section, then you need to take a step back and reconsider what you are ultimately trying to achieve by editing the wiki in the first place. The most important goal of editing case/episode listings is to provide a highly informative, comprehensive, and accessible guide to each case. However, each case is different, whether it be length of airtime, number of episodes, cases, manga vs. anime differences, major events, spoilers in weird places, etc. Because of this, it is impossible to create a unified page layout and format style that best presents every case. That's why when it comes to page layout and formats, there are no rigid rules. There are preferred rules which govern some article aspects which are detailed in the manual of style - but there will be cases where those rules will be modified, or even outright ignored because breaking the rules makes the wiki better by making it easier read, navigate, etc. Furthermore, that doesn't mean the way it's been done up until now is the best. That's why there has been a shift, albeit slow, towards including episode galleries, replacing the titlecards with episode pictures, gadget sections and other stuff like that. Part of being a good editor is flexibility: recognizing when habitual practices like one infobox per case, not including unusual sections, or not listing main characters in the people section collide with making the wiki better and siding with making the wiki better. If dealing with something different makes you this unhappy, I would suggest you pick something else to do, like uploading pictures, or add better case descriptions to cases. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 02:55, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Making it better[edit]

I am making it better. I'm fine with everything except links in people section. I am trying to make it best. When I remove the links on the people section, It will be great. Why can't you just do it?!!!!!! Please, please, please!!!! I want the links off the people section. You still have links on others right? So at least let me do it or you do it please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm begging you please please please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm out of reasons right now! Please! Please I'm fine with everything of what you do on wiki except people section. So please! Onegai de shimasu! TT_TT

Making it better[edit]

I am making it better. I'm fine with everything except links in people section. I am trying to make it best. When I remove the links on the people section, It will be great. Why can't you just do it?!!!!!! Please, please, please!!!! I want the links off the people section. You still have links on others right? So at least let me do it or you do it please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm begging you please please please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm out of reasons right now! Please! Please I'm fine with everything of what you do on wiki except people section. So please! Onegai de shimasu! TT_TT

Hey[edit]

Hey I'm talking to you right now!

Please anything except the links on people section! I'm begging you right now! Please please please!!!!!!!
I'll deal with this tomorrow. I have more important priorities right now than 8 square brackets. The wikilinks aren't going anywhere and they aren't hurting anything. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 05:00, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
It hurts right now. Fine, we'll talk tomorrow. But really I'm really desperate to remove links from people section. Yong out.

Hey[edit]

Now MacGuffin, Can you please remove the links from people section? Please Please Please. You said anyone can edit anything!!!!!!! Now let me do it!!!! Please please please!!!!!!!

No. Editing anything implies people make the wiki better in the process. The wikilinks are useful so removing them would not be making the wiki better. I have had enough problems with people removing wikilinks for no reason at all. It sets a bad precedent. Please read the Wikipedia manual of style for wikilinks for more info. Also, you didn't seem to understand my previous message. You are too preoccupied with things that are different. Different happens. Stop worrying about it and do something else. Also you are being incredibly obnoxious. Whining on my user page repeatedly isn't helping.
I am tired of dealing with your "I don't like it so I'm going to revert" antics. I protected the Holmes Revelation page because you kept reverting the fact that Minerva's mother was blind. As I said, it is an important character trait with high relevance to the case and its solution and is not a spoiler. That's a plenty good reason to include it. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 16:52, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Despicable[edit]

You disgust me right now and seriously you're one cold hearted moderator! I'm telling you right now please please please! Right now I'm getting pissed off right now! You make me puke!! >:( I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I said Yong!!!!! Not SJ!!!!!!!!!! My name is Yong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What makes me tired is YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unregistered User(s) Editing on your page[edit]

Seriously, you should change it so that anonymous users like the one above can't edit your page. Atleast for a while, that's what Maurice did. --conanshinichi 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 19:27, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

RE: Names from Osaka Double Mystery[edit]

Oh, were they? I was confused with what was written in the People section with 'bashed' and 'burned' as the cause of deaths... from what I remember, they were both burned (or so my snapshot implies). Sure, do what you must. --lashedcheek 04:53, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Maurice is JIMBO WALES[edit]

I love how the both of us at pretty much the exact same time jumped in on two different discussions on Maurice's talk page. It's like Maurice is Jimbo Wales or something. CarpetCrawlermessage me 21:56, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

That made me lol. --Maurice 16:01, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

My name[edit]

My name is Yong!!!!!!!!! That's my name!!!!! Yong!!!!!!!!! Please call me Yong!!!! And stop blaming me!! I did not do that!!! It says 108.79.16.182, so that's not me!!!!!

The IP traces to the same place as you, Houston Texas. That's why I assumed it was you. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 16:25, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
But I'm telling you this time that's not me!!!! Seriously!!!! Really!!!! And say Yong!!! That is my name!!
Anyway, don't accuse me!!

Hmmmm[edit]

I must've admit, you do have a big mouth. *Sigh* Very well, then. "Died" it is then.

Keep up with the insults and a year long ban or longer is in your future. The mods have collectively had it up to here with you and we have discussed ban options together. Basically, you are on a knife's edge right now. Don't push it. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 04:49, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Ok, ok, ok, I'm sorry.

Okay[edit]

Um okay, so which one? Oh wait actually there's a big space between the title and the info so that's why I just put pictures to the clear left. So its not good?

Fine fine fine, all right.

Red links[edit]

Well I fixed it anyway. It links to your Class 1-B article.

Okay look you got my attention. Can you unlock the protection log? Look you were right, okay So I'm sorry. Really really sorry! Wait stop, I understand! Can you unprotect them. I swear to you I accept the thing you said.
Look I promise I won't to do war with you! I swear with you!
I'm sorry, sorry I thought your ignoring me! So sorry! Please trust me! I swear

Deal is a deal[edit]

Check Holmes Revelation. I've done it as you do. Are we equal? I'll ask this please? Can you turn the protection off, please? I've done as you said. Please trust me, you have to please! I swear on my word.

Ok you know what? Forget it. Were enemies all right! This deal is off!!!