Amuro Tooru speculation thread

[Chekhov MacGuffin 1089]

Who is Amuro Tooru and what is he up to? By popular request, a thread for speculating about the latest detective!

For past discussion, see this thread:

I hope everyone will repost their important deductions.

Also please recommend another poll question.

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References

Name Origin:

Tooru Amuro has a Mobile Suit Gundam inspired name. He is named after the main protagonist Amuro Ray, and Amuro's voice actor Touru Furuya. Amuro Ray is the mortal enemy of Char Aznable, the character Akai Shuuichi is named after.

Hello! Long time no see, guys!

Just adding more evidence that Amuro Tohru is a reference to Amuro Ray from Gundam . . .

Gosho does these little write-ups called "Sherry's Soliloquy" every week at the Conan official website, and this week's is this:

出たわね!!連邦の白い悪魔が・・・

Appeared!! The Federation's White Devil . . .

Apparently Amuro Ray is referred to as "the Federation's White Devil" in the Bandai game, according to the Japanese Wikipedia site for Amuro Ray:

ジオンからは、“赤い彗星”シャアと対比して連邦の白いヤツ（バンダイのゲーム作品では白い悪魔、書籍『機動戦士ガンダム 戦略戦術大図鑑』やバンプレストのゲーム作品では白き流星）と恐れられるようになる。

In Zion, [Amuro is] feared as the Federation's White Bastard ("White Devil" in the Bandai game, "White Comet" in Mobile Suit Gundam Illustrated Encyclopedia of Strategy and Tactics and in Banpresto's game).

Because the 'Amuro' name and the reference to the voice actor wasn't enough already, ha ha.

[Parkur 165]

Does his name have any meaning?

Mod Note - *Slaps Parkur for sarcasm*

[Balthazar Manfredie 225]

Amuro Tooru is Bourbon, if that then he is also scar

as for what Amuro's after, akai and/maybe more

[Black Demon 466]

According to my speculation (which is the same as of most people), Tooru is Scar Akai is Bourbon.

As for his target(s), I think it changes with occasions:

- In the past cases: To find Akai and kill him. Since Gin said that Bourbon didn't believe in Akai's death from the beginning, I don't think that much investigation is meaningful once you have that much doubt. Of course disguising as Akai is also one sort of investigation, but it's more like a "confirmation" rather than trying to figure out Akai and Kir's tricks and such....

- Recently (as Toru): I'm not sure. It's kind of hard to judge if he has already given up in finding Akai or not.

- In future files: Begins to take interest in Conan (unless Bourbon has already been interested in Conan for a long time), Haibara, Okiya, Sera and investigate them.

[Balthazar Manfredie 225]

I wonder where his detective agency is

[Tsukiko 73]

I wonder where his detective agency is

Maybe he doesn't have one. He could have just met that Hatsune(was that the victims name?) in a bus or train and while talking mentioned that he is a detective. Hatsune has told then that she needs someone who could keep an eye on her upcoming-husband and asks Toru to do it.

Of course that is kinda wild idea but I can't imagine him to sit in an agency like Kogoro does and wait for customers...

And why there even are so many detectives? I mean Kogoro and those people in DC movie X (Private eyes Requiem). Then we have a group of hing-school detectives: Shinichi, Heiji, Hakuba, Natsumi(okay, she is 20 in real), Junya(Natsumi killed him) and Sera. +Detective Boys.

[Wakarimashita 137]

Movies don't count.

This is a mytery manga, so having detectives in it is to be expected.

Besides, Junya is dead, Natsumi is in jail and Hakuba almost never appears, so they can't really be put in the same category as Heiji, the DB or Sera.

[Tsukiko 73]

Movies don't count.

This is a mytery manga, so having detectives in it is to be expected.

Besides, Junya is dead, Natsumi is in jail and Hakuba almost never appears, so they can't really be put in the same category as Heiji, the DB or Sera.

But I'm sure you got my point.

[Detective Kudo 28]

Just a thought:

I have a feeling bourbon has played an active role in the background of cases, if this Toru character is bourbon. Remember the Eye case, where the letter was sent to heiji thought to be written by the killer, but it was never revealed at the end who wrote the letter. I just have a feeling the housekeeper was coaching Conan and Heiji along the way, and was simply too curious. I have another strange feeling there was a reason why that case didn't feel resolved. Maybe bourbon has kept a closer eye on Conan than we thought.

[Detective Rohit 38]

I think that there is rather much more in Okiya-Akai-Scar Akai-Bourbon..more than i expected

[yamiangie 1]

Movies don't count.

This is a mytery manga, so having detectives in it is to be expected.

Besides, Junya is dead, Natsumi is in jail and Hakuba almost never appears, so they can't really be put in the same category as Heiji, the DB or Sera.

Actually two of the detectives mentioned in movie 10 were from episode 219 The Gathering of the Detectives! Shinichi Kudo vs. Kaitou Kid (2 Hour Special. I thought it was a nice tie in to why "Hakuba" would also have been called into the game. All the detectives had been invited to the Twilight Manor. It was rather brilliant becuase both Kudo and Heiji had been invited to that but were no shows. I miss when characters were references to famous detectives.

[Wakarimashita 137]

Yes, 2 of the detectives, not all of them.

[Chekhov MacGuffin 1089]

I'd like to thank everyone for copying their deductions over into this thread. I'm with everyone else that he's a strong Bourbon candidate. I like the idea of him owning a detective agency instead of coming up with work as needed. (Later edit: This turned out not to be the case though.)

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Amuro Tohru is Bourbon is Scar Akai

See also the DCTP link. Also consider referencing the Bourbon is Scar Akai theory.

Index

Amuro is Bourbon is Scar Akai

. . . Direct Evidence

. . . Literary device arguments

. . . Minor points - i.e. weak arguments

Miscellaneous

. . . Amuro is not Akai

. . . Amuro is not a spy infiltrating the Black Organization

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Direct Evidence

∎ Amuro is a skilled detective, yet chooses unethical courses of action that are harmful to others.

Amuro is a detective and very skilled at intelligence gathering as Bourbon was stated to be. That said, unlike other detectives so far, Amuro is a calculating type who chooses avoidable courses of action (or non-action) that may result in harm to others that the "ethical detectives" in the series would have found unconscionable.

 

• Amuro doesn't intervene when a suspect he knows to be innocent is half a step from destroying his exonerating evidence because it seems he was testing Kogoro.

. . . . Although it appeared he messed up in his introductory case, Amuro likely threw case on purpose to test Kogoro/Conan (depending on how much he knows) which will be explained below. While other characters have tested detectives by throwing cases before (ex. Sera and Conan, Hattori and Conan), what makes this case different from the others is that Amuro was prepared to let the innocent suspect destroy the proof of his evidence had Kogoro (really Conan) not intervened at the last second. This kind of recklessness was not warranted because Kogoro had given no indication of understanding the case or noticing the clues, and Conan has not spoken up about the critical clue either.

. . . . Amuro deliberately antagonizes the main suspect, Banba, who is drunk, by accusing him of being his fiancé's murderer. Banba into goaded into rushing him, so Amuro dodges and trips Banba. The condition of the bottom of Banba's shoes is important for the case, and Amuro asks Kogoro to hold Banba's legs. This whole interaction suggests that Amuro knew the bottom on Banba's shoes was important to the case, yet he seemed to overlook the now visible information on the bottom of the shoes that would have proved Banba's innocence.

. . . . Later, Banba is about to be lead away and the clue destroyed by walking outside in the rain. Amuro's "..." (795.4) as Banba prepares to leave seems to indicate that he is waiting for Kogoro to intervene, yet Amuro does not try to stop Banba when Kogoro does nothing even as Banba is halfway out the door. After Kogoro begins his deduction, Amuro explains the genetic condition that the dead fiancé had in great detail without using any references perhaps indicating he may have known about it or suspected it beforehand.

. . . . Assuming Amuro purposefully got his deduction wrong, that means Amuro didn't speak up even at the last minute when Banba was about to go outside and inadvertently destroy the critical clue showing his innocence. If you think about it, this kind of behavior isn't normal for good detectives in DC. Good detectives never want innocent suspects to be accused even if this means more trouble for the detective to prove it (unless they have told the police ahead of time they are doing a trick and are trying to get the real culprit to incriminate themselves). This shows that Amuro isn't like the normal DC detectives, but is calculating instead.

• Amuro noticed that Conan was alone with a murderer and considered that Conan might have been kidnapped, yet said nothing about it until others realized Conan and the murder suspect were gone.

. . . . Amuro's calculating behavior is further shown when he disregards Conan's safety in pursuit of a case connected to the murder at Mouri Detective Agency. Amuro had already deduced a particular suspect was the likely the culprit, and thus she was bad news. Later, he notices her and Conan's shoes are missing, and that Conan hasn't appeared in some time. It is impossible for him not to have guessed that Conan went with the likely murderer, but instead he fails to bring it up. Only later when the others draw the same conclusion does Amuro reveal his thoughts. This failure to care about Conan is obvious when contrasted to everyone panicking.

∎ Amuro went missing when Scar Akai appeared. Amuro had just learned about Sera before she was targeted by Scar Akai.

He was absent from his job at the Poirot when Scar Akai appeared outside the detective agency in 801 where Sera was walking, likely to "test" her as he did with the FBI. Also 800 was Amuro's first time encountering Sera (recently) as far as we know. Scar Akai wouldn't be able to pinpoint Sera without knowing who she was associating with and where she hangs out, both of which Amuro learned in 800.

∎ Amuro matches Gin's description of his personality.

Gin said Bourbon was irritating. (V67-8 pg 13-14). Amuro has a type of personality Gin would not like because Amuro acts cheerful and friendly. Amuro does not hide his emotions and is quite expressive. He is also manipulative. Amuro is also a good detective.

∎ Amuro is much richer than would be expected for his job.

When Amuro offers Kogoro an unknown "tuition" per case Kogoro brings him on, the amount he offers is enough to get Kogoro excited and accept Amuro as an apprentice without hesitation. This is strange because Amuro would not be expected to have much money because he is young, lacks a formal agency, and works part time at restaurants in one of the most expensive cities in the world to live in. Amuro also owns a nice car (RX-7), and maintenance, parking, and upkeep are not cheap.

∎ Amuro placed himself close to the Mouri Detective Agency. Scar Akai is known to be interested in the agency as well.

Amuro has an interest in the Mouri Detective Agency shown by him taking a part time job at the Poirot and asking to be Kogoro's apprentice despite being a better detective than Kogoro which Ran points out. Amuro will be able to access the agency and track Kogoro and Conan's movements with relative ease. Bourbon should have an interest in Kogoro/Conan because Scar Akai has seen two Conan cases as well as saw fit to keep Kogoro's cellphone number with him. Kogoro's number was on Kir's phone, whom Bourbon should suspect to be a traitor if he believes Akai is not dead.

Scar Akai thinks the Mouri Detective agency may be related to Akai.

If we consider what Gin said about Bourbon is true, that he doesn't believe Akai is dead, that means Bourbon’s logic requires Kir to be a traitor who assisted somehow in making it seem like she killed Akai because trying to come up with a plausible way Akai could survive where Kir doesn't knowingly participate is practically impossible. Bourbon (as Scar Akai) has done investigation on Kir, he knew Kogoro's cellphone number somehow in order to text Kogoro the answer in the 13 red shirts case. I looked back through prior cases, and a few clients have phoned through Kogoro's cellphone as part of a case, but no new clients first contact Kogoro using it. That leads me to believe that Kogoro’s cellphone is likely a private number given out as needed, while his main business number is his landline. So where did Scar Akai get Kogoro’s number? The likely answer is from Kir’s cellphone, which Kogoro texted his bank routing number to after the Ding Dong Dash. Kir’s cellphone was left in Gin’s car when Kir changed clothes and we don’t know what happened to it after Kir was captured by the FBI. If Akai’s closest FBI friends don’t seem to know that Akai is still alive, then Bourbon needs to find other suspects. Kogoro was involved with Kir, is intelligent (according to the news), and was suspected of being involved with the FBI earlier although seemingly cleared by Akai’s intervention. So Bourbon starts looking for excuses to check on Kogoro. You could possibly add Conan to the equation as well if you consider Scar Akai observed Conan making a very good deduction and at least heard him using a voice changer during the Teito Bank heist.

∎ Amuro keeps a bug detector with him - only Organization members have been shown to do this.

Amuro conveniently keeps a bug detector with him. The Black Org has been shown to keep those on hand (24-8/239), while normal detectives like Conan do not.

∎ Amuro's physical characteristics match those of Bourbon and Scar Akai.

• Amuro Tohru is right-handed like scar Akai.

• He is male as the codename Bourbon implies. The naming scheme is hard liquors for men and Kir used a male specific pronoun (kare) for him back in the red shirts case.

• He is young enough to rival with Akai and be new to codename (29).

• He has the right body size, height, and face shape to disguise as Scar Akai.

Literary device arguments

∎ Amuro's name origin is a pun on the mortal enemy of Akai's name origin

Amuro Tohru's name is a pun on Amuro Ray who is the mortal enemy/rival of Char Aznable. Furuya Tohru voiced Amuro. Akai is named after Char Aznable (The Red Comet) and his voice actor Shuuichi Ikeda. Bourbon hates Akai, so naming Bourbon after Amuro makes sense. As further proof, Amuro Tohru drives a white RX-7. Amuro Ray flew a white RX-78-2 Gundam.

∎ There was a Bourbon plot reminder in Amuro's introductory case.

In chapter 793, one of the case suspects orders a bourbon on the rocks from Amuro. While the drink itself is unrelated to the case, nor has any relation to Amuro's identity, it may be a deliberate reminder to think about the Bourbon plot.

Minor points - i.e. weak arguments

• Amuro wears black.

He changes into a black outfit when out of uniform (796).

• Amuro mentions some Akai and Scar Akai themed clothing

Amuro's hypothetical disguise suggestion in 795, a knit cap and long windbreaker, are articles of clothing Shuichi Akai and Scar Akai wear respectively.

• Amuro's dark skin color may have been revealed when Scar Akai's duct tape was ripped off.

If you look at the below picture, what we assumed may have been shadow may have been Scar Akai's real skin color that was revealed when the tape disrupted the mask/coloring (whatever Amuro used to change his skin color).

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Miscellaneous

Amuro is not Akai

• Amuro's handedness differs from Akai's.

I think that Amuro is right handed, while Akai seems to be left-handed.

• Conan does not recognize Amuro or treat him like they have met ever

Assuming Conan helped with the plan to fake Akai's death (likely because of the cellphones) it is strange that Conan shows no recognition of Amuro if Amuro is Akai. Even if Akai had hidden his role from Conan, you would think something would have tipped off Conan by now.

• Amuro tests Kogoro which the real Akai would not need to do because Akai knows Conan runs the show.

If Amuro was Akai, then there would be no need to test Kogoro's intelligence because Akai knows about Conan's gadgets and intelligence already. Some of Amuro's decisions would also seem uncharacteristic for Akai. Not mentioning something to Ran or Kogoro about Conan disappearing at the same time as a murderer is one. Akai has had to directly or indirectly bail Conan out twice for getting in over his head (Vermouth and Org vs FBI), so trusting Conan to be safe wouldn't be expected. Another would be coming very close to having an innocent suspect accused, assuming Amuro threw the exploding car case on purpose.

• Akai doesn't have a good motive for becoming Mouri's apprentice.

The motive for becoming Mouri's apprentice is also unclear if Amuro is Akai. Couldn't he move in nearby or stick with working part time in Poirot without becoming an apprentice? Why not start working directly at the Poirot instead of going through another restaurant? Why leave Haibara out of the picture?

• It would be really hard for Amuro to alter his skin color to Akai's and vice versa.

Amuro/Akai would have to use a relatively long term, even-coloring, abuse-tolerating disguise that darkens his skin color. Tanning is one method, but it is difficult to get a tan with complete coverage. (in the folds of the ears, on the scalp.) How dark is Amuro's skin anyway? A skin stain to darken skin on the hands, face, and neck is possible, but difficult and would likely require a professional to apply which leaves a witness. A mask would work for the face and neck (who would make these masks though?), but waitering involves hand abuse and spilled liquids and there is no such thing as a latex mask for hands.

Amuro is not a spy infiltrating the Black Organization

If Amuro is a spy, it will be difficult to account for his actions so far, some of which have been dangerous without good reason. If Amuro is a spy he is highly unethical and/or works for someone no good.

. . . . If Amuro is infiltrating as Bourbon, it is strange for a spy to be sidetracked by hating and/or hunting down Akai. I doubt something like that would be sanctioned by any intelligence agency Amuro might belong to, nor would they tolerate Amuro getting off course on it as it seems completely unnecessary to Amuro's infiltration mission. If the hating Akai thing is an act (it would have to be a good one) or Amuro was a spy for a less than reputable group, like a rival Organization, his behavior might be overlooked.

. . . . In contrast to Kir only doing bad things she is forced to do, Amuro makes negative decisions without prompting. If Amuro intentionally threw his introductory case to test Mouri as described above in the direct evidence section, that's a strike against him. The suspect was halfway out the door with the critical clue and Amuro didn't stop him. Amuro also recklessly disregards Conan's safety in pursuit of a case connected to the murder at Mouri Detective Agency, also described above in the direct evidence section.

. . . . If Amuro is Scar Akai, he probably isn't a double agent for a lawful agency because disguising as Scar Akai is threatening Hidemi's safety for no reason that appears to be relevant to continued infiltration. Even if Amuro didn't know about Hidemi, he deliberately endangered civilians by wandering around in crowded public places dressed as Akai whom the Black Org really wants to kill. In the red shirts case, Chianti and Korn were stationed so that they would fire into crowds because of Scar Akai's actions. This rules out pretty much all the intelligence agencies, assuming Amuro is not a half-rogue agent.

. . . . So far Gosho hasn't hinted at any intelligence agencies or other organizations. In the Vermouth arc the FBI was both hinted at by Jodie ("'The Bureau' is short for the FBI") and then appeared directly with Akai. The Kir arc's CIA appeared in clues related to "The Company", the pun on NOC, and a CIA stock phrase Hidemi used. Nothing similar has happened in the Bourbon arc so far.

[AokoNakamori 24]

I'd like to thank everyone for copying their deductions over into this thread. I'm with everyone else that he's a strong Bourbon candidate. I like the idea of him owning a detective agency instead of coming up with work as needed.

Copypasta.

Amuro Tohru is Bourbon is Scar Akai

•Amuro Tohru's name is a pun on Amuro Ray who is the mortal enemy/rival of Char Aznable. Furuya Tohru voiced Amuro. Akai is named after Char Aznable (The Red Comet) and his voice actor Shuuichi Ikeda. Bourbon hates Akai, so naming Bourbon after Amuro makes sense.

•Amuro Tohru is right-handed like scar Akai.

•He is a detective

•He is male as the codename Bourbon implies. The naming scheme is hard liquors for men and Kir used a male pronoun for him back in the red shirts case.

•He is young enough to rival with Akai and be new to codename (29)

•He has a type of personality Gin would not like.

•He has the right body size and face shape to disguise as Scar Akai.

AGREED!!!

[Black Demon 466]

It would be interesting if Tooru's Bourbon, and he was actually a very high-ranking/important operative in the Org. (somewhat on par with Gin and Vermouth). I don't know about his assassinating skill but I can see his intelligence alone is definitely something that is to The Boss' advantage.

Of all executive members we've known so far, there are two main kinds:

- Elderly members (may even be "original members") and play a very important part in the maintaining of the Organization: Pisco (but it seems that they don't need his financing anymore).

- Extremely skilled, experienced and intelligent members (of course comparing to the rest of the Org.), can be in charge of multiple missions: Gin, Vermouth (although she might have been BOTH).

I wouldn't be surprised if The Boss acknowledged Bourbon as the second type. Whether his deducing skill is on par with Conan and Akai or not, it is something very dangerous that even Gin would comment: "Like you said, someone whom you'd wish was only in a novel. A great detective, like Sherlock Holmes..." (although there's still a possibility that he was talking about someone else.).

[Partsu 0]

I think Amuro is bourbon. I also believe he could be Akemi's childhood friend and was in love with her and therefore hates Akai for "using her and causing her death". He was a bit too good a detective, got involved wit BO and thought staying there would be best for him. He is deadset on getting Akai and would be good guy if his situation could be different.

I think he could become good guy if he would get over his hate for Akai and switch for hate towards Gin and the BO for actually killing Akemi...

ok...did that make any sense? I hope it did because I have tendency to not make any sense at all...

[AJ M. 204]

I'd like to thank everyone for copying their deductions over into this thread. I'm with everyone else that he's a strong Bourbon candidate. I like the idea of him owning a detective agency instead of coming up with work as needed.

Copypasta.

Amuro Tohru is Bourbon is Scar Akai

•Amuro Tohru's name is a pun on Amuro Ray who is the mortal enemy/rival of Char Aznable. Furuya Tohru voiced Amuro. Akai is named after Char Aznable (The Red Comet) and his voice actor Shuuichi Ikeda. Bourbon hates Akai, so naming Bourbon after Amuro makes sense.

•Amuro Tohru is right-handed like scar Akai.

•He is a detective

•He is male as the codename Bourbon implies. The naming scheme is hard liquors for men and Kir used a male pronoun for him back in the red shirts case.

•He is young enough to rival with Akai and be new to codename (29)

•He has a type of personality Gin would not like.

•He has the right body size and face shape to disguise as Scar Akai.

If you look at the below picture, what we assumed may have been shadow may have been Scar Akai's real skin color that was revealed when the tape disrupted the mask/coloring (whatever Amuro used to change his skin color).

I'll be looking forward to a new Wiki page about yet another theory of yours.

[Chekhov MacGuffin 1089]

I'll be looking forward to a new Wiki page about yet another theory of yours.

I'm not sure there is going to be one by itself.

Special Note:

I started a general Amuro Tooru page, but it isn't mainspaced yet because there is only one chapter of material to work from. If you want to edit it, you can find it here:

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/User:Chekhov_MacGuffin/Tooru_Amuro

It still needs a picture of the guy in glasses, a plot summary, speculation, and minor corrections.

[Akazora 292]

I'm not sure there is going to be one by itself.

Special Note:

I started a general Amuro Tooru page, but it isn't mainspaced yet because there is only one chapter of material to work from. If you want to edit it, you can find it here:

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/User:Chekhov_MacGuffin/Tooru_Amuro

It still needs a picture of the guy in glasses, a plot summary, speculation, and minor corrections.

When you mentioned in the personality section of the page that Amuro was expressive and clumsy, it reminded me of someone else already introduced. Someone who hasn't been mentioned for almost 180 chapters. Someone who moved to the United States... Could Amuro really be Eisuke in disguise after extensive training as a CIA agent and is now finally back in Japan as a "detective", but with true intentions of investigating the BO?

[AJ M. 204]

When you mentioned in the personality section of the page that Amuro was expressive and clumsy, it reminded me of someone else already introduced. Someone who hasn't been mentioned for almost 180 chapters. Someone who moved to the United States... Could Amuro really be Eisuke in disguise after extensive training as a CIA agent and is now finally back in Japan as a "detective", but with true intentions of investigating the BO?

It would be a major twist, but an impossible one at that. Don't forget that Amura is 29 and Eisuke is around Shinichi's age. Like everyone theorized, Amuro is most likely Bourbon (or maybe a red herring). During the case, his clumsiness was most likely an act. He DID claim to be a Private Eye for the bride, probably playing a role as an uneasy waiter in order to gain some information.

But he being Eisuke? Absolutely not.

[hopes 237]

Was anyone else reminded of the time where Makoto was introduced?? It seems similar...

[Charala97 23]

As we are speaking of Tooru, I want to put up this point. If he is bourbon, then surely, he hates Akai. What if he uses Sera as a bait? I mean, according to what we have seen of Sera, she is searching for Akai. If Amuro takes notice to her, then he might disguise as Scar Akai and might probably lure Okiya to blow his cover. If he meets Sera, then he might recognize her as Akai's sister or might find her suspicious. Do you think that we will know more of Sera through him?? And do you think they might know each other???

[Black Demon 466]

As we are speaking of Tooru, I want to put up this point. If he is bourbon, then surely, he hates Akai. What if he uses Sera as a bait? I mean, according to what we have seen of Sera, she is searching for Akai. If Amuro takes notice to her, then he might disguise as Scar Akai and might probably lure Okiya to blow his cover. If he meets Sera, then he might recognize her as Akai's sister or might find her suspicious. Do you think that we will know more of Sera through him?? And do you think they might know each other???

I find that possibility rather likely to happen, but also ironic at the same time.

Okay, so far, the most suitable motive to explain Bourbon's serious hatred towards Akai is this whole Akemi thing. Bourbon seems to hold a grudge against Akai because he took advantage of her (which lead to her death). But now, Bourbon also uses another girl for his own gain, which doesn't make him any better than his enemy. And not the mention that Sera might also have been/will be in love with him (another Gundam preference). What happens after that is most likely to be tragical...

The more I think about it, the more ironic it seems. However, I still have to agree that the possibility of this scenario is very high.

P/S: I really hope that Gosho won't pair Sera with Tooru (whether it's a one-way-love or not), despite whatever happened in Gundam. I also want Tooru dead, but not now, maybe near the end.....

[Charala97 23]

I find that possibility rather likely to happen, but also ironic at the same time.

Okay, so far, the most suitable motive to explain Bourbon's serious hatred towards Akai is this whole Akemi thing. Bourbon seems to hold a grudge against Akai because he took advantage of her (which lead to her death). But now, Bourbon also uses another girl for his own gain, which doesn't make him any better than his enemy. And not the mention that Sera might also have been/will be in love with him (another Gundam preference). What happens after that is most likely to be tragical...

The more I think about it, the more ironic it seems. However, I still have to agree that the possibility of this scenario is very high.

P/S: I really hope that Gosho won't pair Sera with Tooru (whether it's a one-way-love or not), despite whatever happened in Gundam. I also want Tooru dead, but not now, maybe near the end.....

Um.... interesting theory, but there might be more than the Akemi thing that has triggered his hatred towards Akai. I am not really satisfied with that theory that this is all for Akemi. But, this scenario is more likely as you say. And I really hope that Sera is not paired with him! I mean, she can be used a bait but not love. If that happens then, Gosho might be going overboard with the Gundam references

I would actually like to see bourbon die with Akai or Ai or Sera pulling the trigger (I don't know why I added Sera, but it just feels right).

[Chekhov MacGuffin 1089]

I'd appreciate a few seconds of your time to vote on what to do with Amuro's wiki article.