Kogoro Copycat (787-789?)

[Tsukiko]

Yeah, you might be right. But I hope he isn't the murder...

[Black Demon]

I don't think so. I assume that Conan will call with Kogoro's voice and solve the case. Like he did with Shinichi's voice when Sera appeared for the first time.

That would be too risky for Conan to try. If Ran ends up asking her father about the case, it will turn out that he isn't the one to solve it (i.e not the one to make the call).

[Tsukiko]

Yeah, I know but... whatever. We'll see it in next file.

[HalfAngel]

I think the woman is the one who left the blood residue on the remote control since she has a band-aid around her right index finger, so I think she's probably the murderer.

I'm guessing that the fans were on when Hyoudou Junji went into the room but it couldn't be heard due to the alarm clock. The fans were turned off when Bannai Kumi tripped over the corpse.

I have no idea how she really did it, and I don't know what to think about the newspaper and laundry and the fact that pegs are scattered around the fans and not anywhere else. Maybe only one fan was on and the other was intentionally left near the door so that someone would trip over it, which caused the pegs to scatter?

[hopes]

I actually think that Conan is just going to be 'childish' and help solve the case... After all, it's Takagi and Sato here. They're pretty smart~!! <3

[Akazora]

I have no idea who is the culprit but I'm suspicioning that young woman. Actually I'm not interested in this murder very much. I wanna know more about this fake Kogoro.

I agree. I personally hope that the culprit isn't the fake Kogoro. The fake Kogoro doesn't even have an official name yet, so I'm hoping Gosho is holding it off not because the look alike is the culprit, but because he's involved in some other way. He doesn't seem like the murderous type, considering he sweats with nervousness so much. I just can't figure out how he would tie in with things.

[moroboshi dai]

how about the lanlady as murderer then the fake kogoro act as alibi for her or something like this

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I just barely looked at the case and it's pretty obvious the universal remote was rigged mechanically to the fans somehow to change the channels nonstop. The signal went through the window and affected the landlady's TV as well. It stopped when she closed the curtains because the signal could no longer transmit strong enough. I don't have time to research how the setup would work tonight. I still don't know the culprit yet.

Fake Kogoro and the landlady look alike. Conan asked about the piano keyboard for a reason, probably to prove something about the landlady.

[Akazora]

how about the lanlady as murderer then the fake kogoro act as alibi for her or something like this

The landlady doesn't seem to be suspicious at all, and the fake Kogoro is too silly and giddy to be a bad guy of any sort, especially one invoved with murder.

[Balthazar Manfredie]

ill say that the culprit is Bannai Kumi( i put the wrong name last time, oops)

since she is moving out she must have decided to kill the man for all the bad stuff he had done to her

[justwantanaccount]

I wonder if the landlady has Alzheimer's or something? She certainly can't seem to learn anything new. Although, I've just the Wikipedia article for Alzheimer's but I've never read anything about speaking loudly but not being deaf . . .

Looks like Gosho got both the engineering brother and the doctoring brother to help with this case, ha ha!

[Detective Kudo]

i have some ideas from quickly looking at this case, but i don't have time to post a deduction right now. the only thing thats got me stomped is the piano thing...

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Real life has pretty much ruined any chance of having more than an hour for this case, and spoilers are apparently already out, but here are my basic thoughts anyway.

I think Bannai Kumi did it because of her position as the best manipulator. She was one who had the tickets to the hot spring. Also the blood found at the scene is suspicious, and she has several cuts. That's really not enough though to implicate her.

The alarm clock was set to go off and give the murderer and the others an excuse to barge into the room so that is easy to explain.

The TV trick is more complicated. I think the setup went something along the lines of a clothespin was used to hold down the channel change button of the universal remote, so once the TV was on, it would zap by changing channels continuously. To prevent the rigged remote from being seen accidentally, the murderer hid it under the newspaper on the bed. It had the side effect of also causing the landlady's channels to change in the adjacent room.

Sato said the TV can schedule a time for viewing, so this may means the TV is able to turn itself on, but the murderer needed the other TV remote so they could turn it off in front of Denkawa's door when everyone gathered outside it to yell at the guy and to establish an alibi. The murderer also scattered clothespins on the floor so that it wouldn't look weird for one clothespin to be lying around. When the murderer barged into the room, in the confusion, they replaced the other remote as well as the key, and took the clothespin off of the other remote and moved it to the floor. A bloody clothespin wasn't found though, so maybe the murderer kept it after seeing the blood?

One problem is that the explanation has nothing to do with the fans. It also doesn't explain why Hyoudou Junji said he knocked the fan over, but there are clothespins underneath where the fan would have stood, so if the fan was upright to start with, it means the fan was sitting on clothespins which is pretty unstable. Was he mistaken?

A more complicated explanation may involve using the fans to hold down the channel change button and holding the remote in place with the pins, then using a remote for the fans to dislodge the remote and the pins from outside by turning on the fans. I really don't know.

[Dean Moriarty]

To prevent the rigged remote from being seen accidentally, the murderer hid it under the newspaper on the bed. It had the side effect of also causing the landlady's channels to change in the adjacent room.

Sato said the TV can schedule a time for viewing, so this may means the TV is able to turn itself on, but the murderer needed the other TV remote so they could turn it off in front of Denkawa's door when everyone gathered outside it to yell at the guy and to establish an alibi.

The problem is TV remote controls work with an infrared diode. Thus, using one in front of the door wouldn't work. It could have been used from outside, but only through the window. That's why the window curtains, which are closed now, must have been open somehow at the time when the landlady's TV was zapping through channels.

Bannai Kumi does seem suspicious because of the blood on the remote, but that could be a red herring.

[Akazora]

The final chapter finally came out, and it concluded this mystery just as planned. The culprit was caught and the questions behind the Mouri imposter have been cleared. As expected, no major twists or cliffhangers at the end. We'll just see how the next case goes and I'm hoping for some more plot development before we hit the big double oh in a few months (just in time for winter!).

[AJ M.]

So I just watched files 788 & 789. Click here to read them.

So the key really was an important factor in deciphering that the landlord's death was a murder (because of lack of blood atop the key). Most of you guys were right when it came to the police. Only Sato-san and Takagi-kun were present, but they went along with the fact that the Kogoro-look-alike was an imposter. As for the case, two remotes, two fans, a newspaper, and the T.V. were all important objects used for the trick of the culprit. The "zap, zap, zap" the old lady witnessed on her T.V. was also essential for solving the case. Lastly, the imposter is not who he says he is... Don't wanna spoil too much so READ THE NEW MANGA CHAPTERS! :mrgreen:

and the votes were off...

[Sandra-san]

I loved this!

But wow o_O at the end :-)

Ran: Well,that's true you shouldn't tell lies,but...

If it's a lie with the other person's best interests at hearth...

I'm sure even your teacher forgive you!

Maybe Ran already sure at Conan's identity? o_O But it's so cute,if she knows,and forgive him

[Icka M. Chif]

did anyone else catch the various references on the TV shows? Yaiba, early Magic Kaito, Yamato Kensuke (the insperatiin for our Kan-chan) and several more !