conanshinichi 15 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 yea I know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IdentityUnknown 216 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 Sorry, I meant more about the fact that religion is the sort of thing that some people will do absolutely anything for, like those extremist nationalist people when they say they're doing something for the country (like the BNP in Britain, hate 'em), I didn't mean to single out Islam in particular. Maybe I should have worded it better... It's okay. It's a rather common mistake for people to make, and the truth was only brought to light by my teacher recently. The States are rather biased with this subject; there was a reporter who claimed that the plane he was on was going to be hijacked because there was a Muslim on it. Preconceived notions are rarely good ideas on the subject of religion. Yea, I'm a muslim and I kinda hate bin laden for that reason. The things he's doing is against our religion and against human rights, but burying him underwater is against our religion too, you are supposed to bury humans on earth and within the 24 hours. There has been many debates about this. I believe that they buried him underwater so that his burial location wouldn't be a monument/shrine to his fellow followers, which might spark more enthusiasm for warring with the U.S. Thats right IDU, you really are well read Well read? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conanshinichi 15 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 I believe that they buried him underwater so that his burial location wouldn't be a monument/shrine to his fellow followers, which might spark more enthusiasm for warring with the U.S. That's still not an excuse to bury him underwater, even if he killed thousands of people. They should still bury him somewhere and don't tell anyone about it. This is still taking his human rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IdentityUnknown 216 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 That's still not an excuse to bury him underwater, even if he killed thousands of people. They should still bury him somewhere and don't tell anyone about it. This is still taking his human rights. I'm not Obama, much less the U.S. government. I didn't make that decision. I'm just stating their reasoning for doing so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conanshinichi 15 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 I know I'm just saying... Wait, does this mean you live in a state in the US? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IdentityUnknown 216 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 I know I'm just saying... Wait, does this mean you live in a state in the US? Nothing I've said implies that. I don't support everything the U.S. does, and I believe it would've been better to have bin Laden locked up instead of killed on the spot. The man was unarmed, for goodness sake! His 12 year old daughter saw her dad get murdered. She'll never be able to erase that memory...her innocence destroyed at such a young age... (not that we're sure any of bin Laden's kids are innocent). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conanshinichi 15 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 Oh and if anyone wants to know, al-Qaeda means the base like HQ or something like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazar Manfredie 225 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 Nothing I've said implies that. I don't support everything the U.S. does, and I believe it would've been better to have bin Laden locked up instead of killed on the spot. The man was unarmed, for goodness sake! His 12 year old daughter saw her dad get murdered. She'll never be able to erase that memory...her innocence destroyed at such a young age... (not that we're sure any of bin Laden's kids are innocent). every man who comities genocide deserves to be killed ( except in the case if he is sorry and wants to redeem him self ) If there is a man like bin laden he deserved it no mater muslim, jew, christian, or anyone if there is a man like that how many girls has left without a dad and i would like to kill bush and every other man like him cause he attacked iraq for only heating the muslims and nothing else Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitou Kid Legendary Thief 197 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 So many people are sacrificed just because of these one or two people... The world is a sad place... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IdentityUnknown 216 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 every man who comities genocide deserves to be killed ( except in the case if he is sorry and wants to redeem him self ) If there is a man like bin laden he deserved it no mater muslim, jew, christian, or anyone if there is a man like that how many girls has left without a dad and i would like to kill bush and every other man like him cause he attacked iraq for only heating the muslims and nothing else Wouldn't that make you a murderer? The equation of life is quite complicated. One wrong move can lead to a series of more. If you became a murderer...what if bin Laden's family wanted to avenge him? It would just result in more tragedy. So many people are sacrificed just because of these one or two people... The world is a sad place... I agree. But maybe we can make it better. We are, after all, the next generation, so to speak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conanshinichi 15 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 what are you gonna do... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitou Kid Legendary Thief 197 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 It takes many years and many people to improve the world. But it takes only one person it destroy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazar Manfredie 225 Report post Posted May 21, 2011 Wouldn't that make you a murderer? The equation of life is quite complicated. One wrong move can lead to a series of more. If you became a murderer...what if bin Laden's family wanted to avenge him? It would just result in more tragedy. i have told you my reasons, how could i don't want to kill him what would you do if some one of yours was killed, you think sending him to jail where he could eat and sleep makes my conscience at ease Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anonymous Detective 1 Report post Posted May 24, 2011 i have told you my reasons, how could i don't want to kill him what would you do if some one of yours was killed, you think sending him to jail where he could eat and sleep makes my conscience at ease I'm not sure I agree with you... for example, if your sister was murdered, and you kill the murderer afterwards, wouldn't that make you a murderer too? :3 You're no better than the guy that murdered your sister then.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazar Manfredie 225 Report post Posted May 24, 2011 I'm not sure I agree with you... for example, if your sister was murdered, and you kill the murderer afterwards, wouldn't that make you a murderer too? :3 You're no better than the guy that murdered your sister then.. Well, ill let THE ALL MIGHTY GOD decide that, not a human. And im not talking about Osam, its some one else. You think its that simple, i dont know how would you react if someone of yours was killed, the horror i remember is disgusting. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anonymous Detective 1 Report post Posted May 24, 2011 Well, ill let THE ALL MIGHTY GOD decide that, not a human. And im not talking about Osam, its some one else. You think its that simple, i dont know how would you react if someone of yours was killed, the horror i remember is disgusting. Well, it's still wrong to kill him! I don't know who you're talking about, but I didn't say it was Osama, or whatever! And I'm pretty sure that God wouldn't choose to kill him! That's not how he is! He sees the good thing in people! He believe they can become good again! Killing him doesn't solve anything! I do hope you understand.. x3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazar Manfredie 225 Report post Posted May 24, 2011 I do understand, we tail our own path and destiny I know GOD looks the best in a human, but sometimes we are allowed to kill. I dont really care anymore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitou Kid Legendary Thief 197 Report post Posted May 25, 2011 ^I could tell that the above is not an avid fan of DC. We need a Shinichi (or maybe Ran) here right now to talk him over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kid the Phantom Thief 252 Report post Posted May 25, 2011 ... :3 <-- This face, it's kinda funny.. Anyway.. Baltha, I agree with AD... It's wrong to kill even a murderer, when he gets the chance to become good again.. DX 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazar Manfredie 225 Report post Posted May 25, 2011 would the world be an easy place to live, if we only think like KID you never know what the next day brings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitou Kid Legendary Thief 197 Report post Posted May 25, 2011 Theres no justification in killing anyone. Theres no reason enough to kill anyone. If you kill the murderer, you'll be a murderer yourself. The only thing that can punish them is the law. Even so, I support capital punishment. It will be a good deterrent for murders. Anyways, we have to live one day at a time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazar Manfredie 225 Report post Posted May 25, 2011 there is no law in this world 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitou Kid Legendary Thief 197 Report post Posted May 25, 2011 ^ That might need some definition, or explanation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kid the Phantom Thief 252 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Well, I kinda agree with Baltha there.. There is no law.. We just do what we want to do, then there's just others who doesn't agree.. I think.. I can't really explain... ¬.¬ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazar Manfredie 225 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 today was an old terrorist found that attacked my country in the 90s and committed genocide he had a heart attack. I hope he suffers really hard then drops dead 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites