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Oh wait! I forgot one thing! Logic does NOT tell us that you need a man AND a woman. Logic tells us that men only possess the means to deliver genetic material to women. However they possess nothing else of use, as women possess everything else for reproduction. Women are, in fact, all that is needed along with a viable delivery system. There is work being done to take the genetic material from the egg of one woman and fuse it to the egg of another female making a zygote that will result in a fetus born of two women. No man involved. This is current research and it will revolutionize the gay rights movement, as women will be able to give birth to offspring that is theirs and their girlfriend's only, not adoption or the product of random sperm from a sperm bank. Now I've actually reread Hajime Kindaichi's post, and have to ask him... Did you actually read it? Logic is supposed to be, well, logical. Note: the following will be directed at Hajime Kindaichi. Please feel free anyone to either refute or argue any points that you feel I got wrong, or was in anyway rude. (I tried to be respectful, I really did) Let me break apart your post into its basic parts. I think I missed the part where you disproved evolution theory. Really, there was nothing of the sort. You dropped the ball on that one. Logic has to have a start a middle and an end... Start: What you intend to prove. Middle: Evidence End: a link between evidence and theory that ties everything up. You said Homosexuality is a sin and not genetic, and genetics is fake. Well there is your thesis. Then you said they can't procreate. You ASSUME that all gay people live as gay, throughout all of history. That is a very brash generalization. Even today there are gay men that marry and have children because of the pressures of society. If that is the case today, why would it be any different over history? Makes no sense. That line of evidence is fallacious from the start. Evolution is a one way ticket to hell... I'm not even... Fine, if I am going to hell for believing in evidence and the progress of science. But you know who else is going to hell? Pope John Paul II. Yeah, he believed in evolution. Pope Benedict redacted that after he took over and believes in intelligent design. So what you are saying, is that one of the most influential and well respected popes EVER is now going to hell despite all the good that he did. If that is the case, then even if I was religious, I would cease at this very moment because that is ridiculous. To be sentenced to eternal damnation because one cannot ignore the extensive amount of proof presented by the scientific community? I cannot do that. Sorry. But lets continue.... Must be dominant: See Aeyra's and my previous posts. Ridiculous and you obviously did not pay attention in any biology classes. Fallacious statement completely. Gays have been killed. Yup, outed gays were. And again, you assume that all gays all the time were eradicated, which is funny since I'm fairly certain that if you were gay and you know it would mean death, you would do EVERYTHING to preserve your own life including living and procreating as a straight person. So that just doesn't work on so many levels. Considering that you never proved anything (you never provided any substantial evidence), your arguments are shallow and based on a 1500 year old book. With the brunt of it being based off of a book that is so archaic that everyone except Hasidic Jews, don't follow those rules. And, quite frankly, I don't think they fully follow them either. I think I'm done. I'm for homosexuals, bisexuals, asexuals, heterosexuals and any other sexuals that you can think of and their respective rights, and against bigotry. I look forward to my friend's marriage to her girlfriend. Will be a beautiful ceremony I'm sure. Kyuu out. I'm sure I'll be back eventually.

So this took a lot of work, but I think it turned out pretty well. I used one of the more common pictures of Haibara as a reference and took off from there.

Well Aeyra said a lot of what I was going to say. You should stay in school my friend, and perhaps not go into science. Aeyra went into dominance/recessive genes, and how that can play a role. However... You seem to talk as if genetics is the ONLY factor in determining phenotype. Well now, allow me to introduce to you a theory, the prenatal androgen theory. This theory suggests that a certain concentration of hormones may affect developing fetus. And they actually have measurable proof of this being the case. That proof is actually the fourth proximal digit on the human hand. (The ring finger was found to have a different length ratio in lesbians than straight women (2D;4D)) This is considered only a co-factor however, as there are other possible genetic and environmental factors that can play a role as well. And wait... Evolution is fake?! Oh geez... you are one of them. You know what? I'm not going to argue this with you, instead, here is a Christian site that will argue it for me. Mind you I don't believe the doctrine of that site, but I approve of its message. It is trying very hard to show that evolution is the truth, and there is no proof for creationism, but abundant proof of evolution. And I could link you to plenty, but I CHOSE ONE SINGULAR RELIGIOUS SITE INSTEAD. Please, I implore you don't walk this path with me. I know more about religion than I care to, and I know far more about science than you can hope to. Don't make me break out the journal articles. Edit: But you know what? I'm in a sporting mood... Here is a challenge... Find me verifiable proof that creationism is true that has nothing to do with Religious doctrine (so no Bible or anything like that, that is more metaphorical than anything, even most people whom study "the word" agree with that) What I mean by verifiable proof I mean scientific studies that completely destroyed evolutionary theory and cannot be the result of anything else other than the influence of God. Do that and I'll happily subscribe. For now, Creationism lies and has no proof, and Evolution is constantly changing to suit new evidence that only STRENGTHENS it. Oh and btw, there are plenty of scientists trying to disprove evolution, and they only end up proving it further. I've seen more proof of evolution in person in experiments I've done, than you have probably seen of creationism in your entire life. Edit 2: Also, Homosexuality being a Sin comes from the book Leviticus. So by all means, follow it, but please follow the rest of the laws too. I just love that book. So many rules that no one in their right mind would follow. I do so hope the shirt your wearing is comprised of only one fabric. That's a sin you know. (that is my personal favorite) Edit 3:

Religion is the biggest lie ever told to mankind in my opinion. If I laughed my head off while reading this, am I going to hell? XD (honestly don't care... all my favorite book characters end up there any way. At least I'll be able to see them. :3 Also, this 'all-forgiving' god seems a bit eager to cast everybody who dares to defy even a single word he says into the pits of hell... Just saying.) It's easy to say that homosexuality actually could be a gene- it's easy! It's called a recessive allele! To make it even harder, let's turn it into a polygenic trait with tons of recessive alleles that would make it really hard to produce the right effect. That way, it makes homosexuality very rare. Also, even if the homosexuals themselves don't reproduce, anyone carrying the recessive trait is a 'carrier' of that gene, and if their partner is also a carrier, then their offspring could potentially be homosexual. And it's not like you need to have a disease to pass it onto your children. Take hemophilia- it's a blood-clotting disease that is famously known for being common in the royal family. Not everyone had it. A lot of the children with the disease didn't survive to reproduce. BUT IT'S STILL THERE. Why? Because it was not a dominant gene. (okay, it was a recessive sex-linked trait, but you get the point.)Same could apply to homosexuality. *just realized* Did you just say the gene has to be dominant to show up in a phenotype? I'm taking biology- that's DEFINITELY not the case. Dominant genes always show, but only if they are present! Otherwise, the recessive gene becomes the phenotype. Well-known fact of science. And don't even get me started on evolution. I could give you a long rant of scientifically proven reasons (and common sense) to prove evolution is a fact (heck, I could simulate an experiment with bacteria to prove it to you in less than a week with the right equipment). Your argument doesn't even make sense, to be honest. :/ It completely defies the laws of genetics and does nothing to show that evolution is fake. I mean, evolution is everywhere! There's evidence in our vestigial structures (wisdom teeth, appendix, tail bone, little toes, etc.), our homologous structures (same forearm structure as dogs, bats, frogs, cats, birds, etc.), the fossil record (collected skulls of all versions of human/human-like organisms throughout history of thousands and millions of years), and comparative embryology, which proves our embryological development is very like that of other organisms. The story of Adam and Eve? Well, I break rules all the time and I haven't been cast from my Eden yet. :x ... That went way off-topic (never get me started on evolution or I will never shut up on you until you give in). Let me link this back to homosexuality not being some sort of evil thing that we as a human race should never accept. First of all, not everybody is a believer. To take away their rights because they don't believe in the Bible is like to take away someone's rights because they don't believe in sparkly pink unicorns. Because if they don't believe in the Bible, it might as well be nonexistent sparkly pink unicorns to them. And I for one would hate to have my rights taken away by sparkly pink unicorns. Second of all, homosexuality could easily be a passed on trait. Let me draw a quick diagram demonstrating a all-recessive polygenic (2 genes- too lazy for more) trait: In case you can't read that (because I have the crappiest handwriting in existence): Let's say in order to be gay, your genotype must be 'aabb.' Anything else makes you straight. How do we get gay offspring from straight parents? Here's just one of multiple examples (AKA the simplest one I could think of): The parents' genotypes are both 'AaBb', meaning they are both carriers for homosexuality. The rest is self-explanatory if you understand Punnett Squares. THIS is true logic. Conan uses Punnett Squares in one of the mysteries to show how a person with an AB blood type cannot produce a O blood type offspring! See? This is just a theory for how homosexuality is passed on (though I'm sure it's more than a two-gene trait). To tell why not one out of every 16 is gay, the recessive alleles could just be very rare. That's why not one in every four males is a hemophiliac. That's why not everyone is gay. No offense, but please don't try to tell homosexuals that their orientation is a sin and to go get their head fixed (because that's how I would see going to the pastor.). That's obviously not the problem here. Talking to a pastor isn't going to help- and you're asking people to give up part of their identity, part of who they are. Reverse the situation. Imagine being straight is a sin. You're not going to just go to a pastor and ask him to help you be homosexual because someone told you it's a sin, are you? SAME DIFFERENCE. Religion is no reason to BEAT DOWN love. It's no reason to tell people they are disgusting, should be killed, should be punished, should rot in hell. It's no reason to say they can't love each other. (dammit.... I'm crying now.) Read this, and tell me your reaction. If you don't feel even the slightest bit sad at the end of reading this- well, I'm sorry, but get a heart. Just because her love happened to be female doesn't mean she takes the loss any less hard, that her kids feel any less sad, that this love is any less important, any less valuable than a straight relationship. Gay marriage is just as beautiful, binding, and filled with love as a straight one. Even without marriage, this above family was torn apart by death, was ripped brutally into pieces because the law said 'You couldn't marry her' and then said 'You can only save her life if you're married to her.' (here come the waterworks... I've been crying for a while now.) If I can open just one more person's eyes to the unfairness of prejudice against gays and gay couples, the unfairness of the illegality of gay marriage, then that is enough. If I can show the world that nothing is wrong with this, that everybody is worthy of finding love and keeping it forever, then I could ask for nothing more. When will the world finally be able to look and see?

君の声を聞かせて...Leia... Progress here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXgmJVDa-p0&feature=plcp Reference: kazasou.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/konachan_com20-209339220akiakane20black_hair20dress20flowers20long_hair20megurine_luka20short_hair20tears20vocaloid.jpg Over 10 hours Oil pastels and colored pencils

MAJOR REVELATION!

There is one thing that singles out Amuro to be Bourbon in the latest file. Vermouth says that Bourbon found out that Shiho was hiding in the Gunma hills and the BO, trusting this info , have laid a plan to catch Sherry. If Bourbon is Sera, then she would have notified the BO long before this as she has been suspecting Haibara for a long time now. Same goes for Okiya, only that he has more proof on this matter. The person left is Amuro. He hasn't bothered about Haibara one bit so far, he seems to be clueless about Conan being more intelligent for his age. He wouldn't have a tiniest idea that Shiho may be living as a kid. So, when he snuck into Kogoro's office and checked his computer, he was surprised to see Shiho in the video sent by Mitsuhiko, zoomed into the ring and contacted the BO without further delay.

I'm editing the topic title. This is no longer breaking news. :V

Then again, post memorable Conan lines but not necessarily Conan's lines. There are really many things that are memorable and sometimes repeating like Ran's lines bragging about waiting for Shinichi for a very, very long time. Here's a good conversation: *Heiji and Conan comes to the room where Kazuha is treated after being hurt with by Ran* Heiji: Take off your clothes, Kazuha! *Heiji tries to take Kazuha's clothes and resists. Same goes to Conan but looks around the legs* *Both of them slaps and get kicked out of the room* Heiji: Why did she only hit me?! Conan: Because I'm just a kid...