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No offense to you, but fans like you annoy me to no end. Fans that act like these CHARACTERS are REAL PEOPLE that have free will. Shinichi CANNOT decide, which is why topics like this are possible and fun, because if the writer, in this case Gosho Aoyama, decides it he can make Shinichi (really Conan since he would have to remain as such) end up with Ayumi, Ran end up alone and broken, and basically troll all the fans' expectations. Don't kid yourself otherwise. Gosho has made it pretty clear that Shinichi and Ran will end up together, but that is NOT set in stone, and HE can change it any way he pleases. Hell, if he wants he can have Shinichi die to save Ran in the process of fighting the BO and have HER be the overall hero of the story, avenging her one true love. There are countless possibilities, but one thing remains constant, and that is THE CHARACTERS HAVE NO SAY WHAT SO EVER! And I have said this before, but the POINT of this topic is NOT to discuss who WILL end up with Shinichi, but who is BETTER SUITED for Shinichi. I'm really starting to think that people don't know how to read the topic's title, or perhaps don't understand what it means. Again, Gosho has made it pretty clear who Shinichi will end up with, but that does not mean that she is the best for Shinichi, or that debates like this are not necessary, just because there is no question of the ending between Ran and Shinichi. </rant> -Sigh- That has been building up for a while... To remain on topic... ShinShi FTW, that is all.2 points
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Wow... This was brought up, like, what, nine months after the last comment? XD It's not even that good... His neck is way too skinny and I was staring a reference the whole time.1 point
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796 chinese : http://tieba.baidu.com/p/12756640751 point
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The name for M16 hasn't been released yet, so I would be skeptical of anyone who claims they know it now and everything they say. Edit: The official name was released 18-11: "The Eleventh Striker" and it has no relation to the Black Org whatsoever.1 point
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This is more of an off-topic observation then anything else mind you... Regardless of whom he is or what his role in the plot is, I wish Gosho had thrown Amuro (and Sera for that matter) at us ages ago. We've had Subaru lurking in the shadows for what seems to be forever now, and then later we were introduced to Scar Akai. Concerning those two, the story's pacing seemed rather slow, but recently, Gosho seems to be throwing everything at us all at once. If the Bourbon Arc is starting to wrap up, it will leave a bitter taste in my mouth. Of course, that is assuming everything will be coming to an end shortly after File 800.1 point
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787-789 are likely going to be the only chapters to be tied up with the Kogoro case. (Note: this case is totally a fake Kogoro lookalike, fake Akai lookalike hint drop) Assuming Gosho will start on the 00, that leaves 790-799, which may break down into three three parters or a three parter and a six parter, and a singlet for 799 (a singlet has happened before two major showdown arcs now - 594 and 699). I think we are likely to get at least one more Sera case because we still need clues about what specifically tipped Sera off that Shinichi, Conan, and Haibara are important. We are also going to need a pretty heavy Ran's suspicion themed case in order to build the proper "Save Sera from Bourbon while keeping Ran from suspecting!" double header that has been hinted at for a while now. (Shiragami, Sports bar, Sera's questions) The Sera and suspicion may be combined into one case with the suspicion spilling over into the next case. I think Gosho needs to drop a reminder about Scar Akai before 800 hits because his last appearance was ~100 chaps before 800 which will equate to about 2.5 years of not appearing - then again after this long, maybe it's better to wait until the main plot. We still don't know why he hates Akai yet. Gosho has yet to drop any hints in that direction which is a bit aggravating. It would be nice if there was one scar Akai case before the main fall, but with Sera and suspicion there may not be room before 800 hits unless Gosho somehow decides that three plots in a row is a good thing. Perhaps we will have a minor Okiya appearance shoved in to clarify how he feels about Sera and just to remind the readers who everyone is before the big 00.1 point
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I listen to K-pop a little... I have Girl's Generation on my iPod. They're AWESOME!! But I mostly listen to J-pop...1 point
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But there are a lot more similarities and clues in Subaru and Akai's case than there were for Jodie and Vermouth. It goes further than appearance and mysteriousness. Okiya and Akai share name puns, Black Org auras, and Conan's trust, and a bunch of other things I have listed. The differences can be explained by acting and habit change in order to disguise himself. What is important to note is that none of the differences are too extreme such that a dedicated Akai couldn't handle. Quit smoking, use nicotine patches for instance. Also, Akai has shown hand to hand skills- he was going to take out a busjacker before Conan got him. Also, Okiya hasn't had the opportunity to shoot, so it doesn't make sense to assume Okiya can't. I disagree. When has Akai been on a mission where disguise would have significantly helped? Most of the time, Akai simply appeared unexpectedly or stayed out of sight of the party he was tailing. On the bus jack case, the FBI weren't trying to capture Vermouth. The bus is a public location with lots of people around. They couldn't. What they were doing was looking for Shiho in order to protect her, which is why Akai mentions the target at the end of the case into his recording device. By the same token Vermouth couldn't attack Jodie. Also, the FBI didn't know Vermouth knew Jodie was an FBI agent. Even if Vermouth saw Akai on the bus, that doesn't make Jodie Akai's ally. The problem is Conan and Agasa haven't talked about the glasses and how they relate to the badges as far as we have seen anytime recently. Between Okiya's first appearance and the 252 rescue case where Okiya demonstrated his knowledge, I am pretty sure Conan hasn't used the tracking function of his glasses in any case in Beika (or even elsewhere anywhere possibly), nor have the detective boys used the badges for anything other than communication (unless I'm forgetting something they may not have used them at all until the 252 case ignoring the haunted warehouse where they were merely props). If they haven't been used recently, then why would anyone in Agasa's house need to talk a out loud about them? They already know how they work, and listening devices don't let you see how to use them properly, something which Subaru knew how to do. The mechanism to operate Conan's glasses isn't obvious, so only someone who knows about their existence beforehand could recognize the glasses at Agasa's and figure out how to activate the tracking function. Akai Shuuichi could have heard about the glasses in several ways. The first source is when James Black was kidnapped while he had Ayumi's detective badge. Conan used the badge to track down James Black. James was waiting to meet with Akai before he was kidnapped and drove away with Akai after he was rescued. Akai could have also heard about the tracking function from Jodie when Conan chased after Kir to prevent an assassination. Finally, Akai may also know about them from when Haibara borrowed the glasses to find Conan at the shipping yards in climax of the Vermouth arc. He was present at the time and would have seen Haibara wearing them even though she has never worn glasses when Akai had seen her previously.1 point
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I don't understand why being enemies means you would be more similar than you would be otherwise.================================================================== Version 1 Common Objections to Okiya being Akai and their rebuttals (1) Objections that Okiya is not Akai because... 1a. Akai is dead. 1b. Okiya is Bourbon. 1c. Okiya and Akai appeared at the same time so they can't be the same person. 1d. Scar Akai is the real Akai. 1e. Okiya is the shadow guy in glasses driving in files 417-419 so he can’t be Akai. (anime spoilers) 1f. What about Okiya being a brother of Akai or something like that? (2) Objections that Akai couldn't have the time to prepare the Okiya disguise and other logistics. Generally, the passage of time in DC is difficult to tell because of the floating timeline; it isn't clear how much time elapsed between Raiha pass and the Kuroshiro case where Okiya first appeared. In the Suspicious Eisuke case which occurred right before Okiya's introductory case, it was stated that Eisuke returned to school finally after being "absent for quite a while" according to Conan. (619 pg 3) Even then, how much time elapsed between "Suspicious Eisuke" and Okiya's introductory case? 2a. Now that Akai is cut off from the FBI, how could he have the resources and get his identity together as Okiya fast enough? (Like a buying a car and renting an apartment...) 2a1. Then who were these assistants? 2b. Akai couldn't have learned all the things Okiya knows fast enough 2c. If Okiya was Akai he couldn't have been at the apartments for long enough. 2c1. Okiya can't be Akai because the child Kaito from the Kuroshiro case had to have known him for a long time in order to observe him enough to invent a nickname for him. 2c2. Okiya couldn't have been there long enough because the garden looked too nice. 2d. It is too difficult to fake a job as a graduate student in engineering. (3) Objections regarding Akai's acting and disguising abilities or lack thereof 3a. Akai doesn't have any acting skills as far as we know. He couldn't do a good enough job to be Okiya. 3b. Akai has no experience with disguise. 3c. Akai can't disguise his voice. 3d. If Jodie wasn't able to recognize Okiya as Akai, then how did Ran? 3e. If Okiya is Akai, and Ran, after only seeing him three times, thinks he seems familiar, doesn't that mean Okiya's disguise is bad? If so, isn't he stupid for appearing around the Org or the FBI who might recognize them? 3f. If Okiya is Akai, why doesn't Akai behave more like himself when he is alone or only good guys are around? (4) Objections based on motives 4a. If Okiya is Akai and trying to keep his identity secret, why is he risking himself by staying close to Haibara and Conan and getting involved in situations where the FBI and the Black Org are present? 4a1. He doesn't seem to be protecting Haibara and Conan (anime spoilers) 4a2. He doesn't seem to be protecting the FBI 4b. If Akai is unwilling to face Haibara, why would he try to move in with her? 4c. If Okiya is Akai, why is he spying on Conan and Haibara? (5) Objections based on personality differences between Okiya and Akai 5a. Akai isn't the type of character who would disguise as a domestic and friendly person like Okiya. Their personalities are too different for them to be each other 5b. Okiya smiles more than Akai 5c. Conan acts differently around Okiya than when he was around Akai (6) Objections on physical differences between Okiya and Akai 6a. Okiya doesn't look like Akai 6a1. Then where did the line under his eyes go? 6a2. Then where cheekbones go? 6b. Okiya/Akai is ambidextrous unlike the other. 6c. Many of people look alike because of Gosho's art style. Also other characters like Gin are left handed. Okiya and Akai being alike is just a coincidence. (7) Objections based on behavioral differences 7a. Akai smokes, Okiya doesn’t. 7b. Okiya is a better detective than Akai (8) Objections based on quotes 8a. If Okiya is Akai, and he knows scar Akai is Bourbon, why would he say that Scar Akai wasn't who he thought he was? 8b. Okiya seems to be threatening Haibara during the Ikkaku rock case. (9) Objection based on literary devices 9a. Okiya is Akai is too easy; there has to be something more complicated. 9b. If Okiya is Akai, why is he is disguise all the time? Even Vermouth took off her disguises once in a while. 9c. Several times we get to eavesdrop on Okiya's thoughts. That only happens for characters not in disguise. 9d. There is a trick to the Char Aznable name: Char Aznable and Casval Rem Deikun used to be strangers, so this implies Okiya isn't Akai. (10) Miscellaneous 10a. Okiya can't be Akai because Okiya was the only one who could have informed the Black Organization that scar Akai was in the Beika Department Store. 10b. Why did Conan panic when he heard Ran was going to Shinichi's house? 10b1. Then why didn't Conan warn Subaru that Ran was coming? 10b2. The timing of Subaru getting that phone message doesn't make sense! 10b3. Why didn't Ran and Sonoko hear his phone if Conan contacted him first as they came in? Everything below this line is not finalized. They are in need of serious cleanup like proper grammar and such. Please don't quote them, they are only here to give you an idea of what will eventually be posted. ========================1 point
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