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Juice and Google Chrome. Nancy Drew or Detective Conan?

No debate is ever pointless unless it goes nowhere. It's a flaw that could easily be fixed- one major even t could trigger that flaw to go away. It isn't a flaw that will always be with her- it will slowly disappear over time. The flaws I'm talking about flaws that a person can hide but can't change. A person who is irritable can work on that issue but they will always have it. Those kinds. And those people ted to get help or start creeping down a dark path with drugs or alcohol. Most people won't just hide their feelings. When you have somebody who hides their feelings and acts the way she does, then yes. That is a big part of stoicism. People recognize a stoic character MAINLY by their lack of emotion. A deep sadness and mystery of what they're feeling is the real pull of a stoic character. Yes they are cut-outs but to a far lesser degree than what you're implying. XD The BO are also the stereotypical bad guys. (Dark colors, fangs, evil glares, guns, mystery of the boss... yeah.) DC is just not your kind of show then, is it? XD lol I personally had fun debating (I like it to debate when it comes to anime, what? That's one of MY flaws. )with you but if this is how the debate ends so be it. :grin:

Yes, the not trusting people is the "That was silly, don't do that XD" flaw I was referring too. XD Her dark past does not count as a flaw- we all have things we regret doing and she was forced. And locking away emotions is what makes a stoic character- which is not really all that realistic. XD She was forced into doing what she did and did not do it of her own accord- which is what would make it a flaw. "It's always the quiet ones"- Slade from Teen Titans to Raven when she revealed her secret dark past. Raven was the stoic character. XD The fact that she had a dark past makes her even closer to what she is titled. Some characters are less cut-outs than others. If Ayumi was exactly what she was a "cut out" of then she would have an older brother whom she calls "Nee Nee" and she follows around all of the time, she would be easier to entertain and she would make sex jokes even though she doesn't mean to. XD Kazuha would live right next door to Heiji and have a special promise that they made in some special place. Genta... no. No. He's a cut-out character. He definitely is. XD Just a less common one. Mitsuhiko would wear glasses, be easily irritated, have his nose in a book way more often than he does, he would also be less than interested in girls. Heiji would constantly be challenging Shinichi to a deduction match and not work with him, he would also be guessing cup sizes and hitting on the ladies. LOL So not everybody is a picture perfect cut out. Haibara and Ran are probably the closest to cut-outs there are except for Shinichi and Sonoko. XD Funny how the minor characters are closer to being realistic than the main ones...

I'm sorry, I meant LACK of flaws. XD lol Haibara has flaws- but not the kind that make you go "Hey she's really realistic". They're more like "Okay... that was silly. Don't do that. XD" kinds of flaws. Ran yes, is more of a Mary-Sue character and I don't favor her very much at all. And as I've said before the stoic character and the over-exaggerated strength-wise girlfriend are both overused to the point where it shocks me they have much of a fan-base. XD That's one of the reasons why I don't like them with Shinichi. It just feels like the author is pushing them together even though they don't fit. ^^' Every relationship does have flaws- but when there are too many it just makes the relationship unrealistic and impossible. When you have a flaw or two with a couple that has a lot of positives on their side it makes the couple interesting! ^^

Bread. Fluffy or smooth?

Fire. Corndog or hotdog?

The chick has two parents who aren't living with each other, a "boyfriend" who's running off all the time, a horn on the side of her head, is constantly seeing dead bodies, and is like a maid in her own home. I... don't think anybody envies her. XD

I don't bash. If I were bashing...Then I'd be saying things like "She's stupid. She's ugly. Oh she's a *Bleep*". XD (Look at people bash Kagome and/or Kikyo from Inuyasha sometime. THAT is BASHING. XD) I'm stating flaws in their character and as to why they really shouldn't have as big a fan-base as they do. Yes. I do get tired of it. Because people don't understand. They don't really see what I'm saying although I try and explain it the best I can, so yes. It does get annoying. I don't know whether or not I'm just not explaining it well enough or what. I've said it many different ways so it's not like I'm saying the EXACT same thing over and over again. :???: And I'm not the only person to speak like this anyways. Nobody bats an eyelash if it's somebody talking like that about a minor character but when somebody speaks like I am about a protagonist have mercy on their soul. LOL xD Look, from where I'm standing, every couple has pros and cons and to me, AyuCon has more pros. I'm pointing out flaws that nobody really notices that don't apply to AyuCon- thus stating an argument for it. XD I don't mean to sound harsh- and I'm trying to get better at it. That's what counts, right?

I don't think so. It could end as AyumixConan as well. I'd like to remind you that love has no limits and that Gosho wouldn't keep hinting at AyuCon if it wasn't going to happen. My guess is that they'll e separated (or Ran will die lol jk). It's also very likely for Shinichi and Ran to be separated, too, mind you. WHO CARES IF THEY'RE TEN YEARS APART? What is the difference between a 40-year-old and a 50-year-old? REALLY! XD You cannot say that Ayumi's feelings aren't the same as Ran's. Love comes at all ages, in all shapes and sizes. I don't think it's just as a little sister. Why would Gosho keep stressing it then that Ayumi has a crush on him and why would he keep making Conan place his hand on Ayumi's shoulders or keep saying things like "Please be alright...Ayumi!" (which I've heard Inuyasha say about Kagome, to give you an idea of what that exactly can say). If he wasn't going to have a romantic relationship with her then why in the world would those moments keep popping up? She's not annoying- she's cute. And she's way less annoying than most children out there and more mature so... yeah no. XD (And no, I don't want to see that. I don't think anybody who supports AyuCon wants to see that. Therefor nobody here who likes them. )

Ohhh yeah that makes sense. Sorry for that. I hate it when I can't make up my mind between two things and the coin I flip.... lands on its side.

Well it's... just strange. XD You don't commonly come across it. U mad bro? :grin: lol

I hate it when people act like somebody with so little sense is so great- and when those people have, or like to think they have, a higher power. .........................