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What if Conan (aka Shinichi) became insane after experiencing all those tragedies and dreadful crimes scenes and became a murderer himself? Watch this amazing clip featuring Conan as a ruthless murderer! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_UZXXER_I8 Can't get enough of it... it's so epic...

Eh... I think I'm gonna lock this topic :| Also edited title because of spoiler.

I'm getting tired of answering the same question over and over. Japan release: April 19, 2014 English sub release: about October.

My take on my DCW profile picture <<< That's my profile picture And this is my hand-drawn version!!! Secondly, a picture for my cousin who's also a DC fanatic :3 Here it is: Like I said before, please comment!

Here is some cbox transcription for reference. Chek: Ugh, I really don't want to do anything more about the child issue until more clues appear, but it looks like I have to ask a question for the sake of completeness. What are the pronouns, speech types (feminine, masculine, ambiguously polite) being used? Subjectwise, Masumi directs a question towards the child at one point, and the child refers to itself a few times. Zenthisoror: She uses watashi, and she speaks in a very unchildlike, cool adult-like way, a bit like Haibara, but she's not as girly as Haibara. Chek: When Masumi asks the child about its opinion of Conan, did Masumi's question contain a gendered pronoun? Basically, I'm trying to get a sense of whether Gosho is blocking Masumi from addressing the child in a way that would reveal its gender. Since they are alone, I can assume that they are likely to be truthful to how they normally would address one another. User 4869: Haibara is girly? sorry off topic. Zenthisoror: In the Japanese, well, Haibara's pretty feminine. @Chek: Hmm, I think considering that Lady Oscar tells Sera to refer to her as a kind of 'little sister' she's probably a girl? Chek: @Zenthi, I'm concerned that the child is a reverse Sera, a feminine boy, who is using their ambiguous appearance to disguise from whoever. User 4869: a little related http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11727&start=45#p791042 6 Nov 13, 08:50 Chek: But anyway, besides the question above about how Masumi addressed the child, a user at DCW asked about a -nasai (Black Demon corrected spelling) motherly ending. I can't elaborate on the context... Zenthisoror: @Chek: A reverse Sera would be interesting. To be fair his/ her speech pattern is more boyish than girlish. Oh, kotaenasai right? I wouldn't say that's motherly - it's a semi-formal order. Chek: Maybe that's it. Honestly I am more concerned with how Masumi addressing the child in her question about what the kid thinks of Conan. I want to know if Gosho is dodging gendered pronouns, implying a trap. Well, a male who uses watashi probably would be formal-ish if kiddo is a male and not a female. Zenthisoror: I guess because in Japanese you don't really need to use pronouns to speak and sticking them in just makes the speech kind of unnatural...let me have a look at what Sera says then... She talks to the kid like an equal? No noticeable sense of respect or hierarchy. This could simply be because of Sera's personality, but she seems familiar with the kid and the kid is familiar around Sera. Having said that, the kid comes across smarter and cooler than Sera and, of the two, more like the person pulling the strings. Black Demon: If Gosho is trying to hide her true gender then I doubt that we can find anything conclusive for now. Zenthisoror: Best bet at the moment, I'd say a shrunken woman familiar with Sera, so probably her mum. I am ecstatic. (sarcasm drips off me like a melting ice lolly) @Chek: No signs really. If anything, he's either leading us on to think she's a girl, emphasising she's a girl or seriously tricking his editor into thinking she's a girl.

I'm not going to do much additional work on the child identity problem until some more clues come up. It's been analyzed to death by a bunch of people already. The main reason the mother theory is as popular as it is is because we only have one female Akai we haven't seen, the child looks like a girl, and is wearing girls clothes. (And maybe talks femininely, but I haven't seen the raw text.) Normally that would be pretty indicative of gender, but we already have had one Akai family trap already who thinks it is acceptable to pretend to be male when it is convenient. (See bathroom use in Blush Mermaid.) Regarding the mother theory in general, if I assume that the child is the mother shrunken, then it really bothers me that the clues presented so far only consist of appearance (big boobs, looks like Shuuichi and Masumi), location (America, which would be a lie in this context), and possible history (maybe met Ran in the past). Usually mystery people whose identities we don't know yet are doing things rather than just existing in the story. Bourbon was activated and put on a mission about Sherry, Vermouth has something she wants to look into in Japan so she isn't going back to America, the boss is contacting his subordinates and ordering them about. Doing things is usually what differentiates suspects from clues that are people (in this case the mom would be a hint about what to expect the middle brother to be like). If I had to pick an APTXed Akai family member theory (instead of another non-shrinking theory), I'd choose the brother over the mother despite the girl look. The brother is doing things in Japan (contacting Masumi). It continues the trend of misleading-looking Akais. The cough bothers me for the same reason. Why have the child be sick at all? In Detective Conan, coughing like that typically implies a rough voice, so it will sound gender ambiguous when the anime rolls around, or to anyone listening in on bugs. When flipping back to the Makoto case when Sera texts her brother, I noticed again that the hand on the phone looks like the style Gosho uses to draw young people vs older males like Okiya and Amuro. That's merely my impression rather than an objective observation; I didn't bring it up back then because Gosho's not perfectly consistent with hand styles and there was no reason to suspect the brother could be a child at that point. Re MeitanteiSonoko's theory about the Silver Bullet and a Miyano connection, there is no evidence. We haven't heard about anyone other that Elena and Atsushi working on Silver Bullet, nor anything about Silver Bullet being used on someone (excluding APTX 4869 here). That doesn't mean it didn't happen, but without evidence, one story is as good as any other. James Black has a good alibi against being the boss. In Kir's introduction case, when Gin asked the boss by phone for permission to kill Kogoro, James was driving the car with Jodie and Conan in it. He couldn't text Gin back without Jodie and Conan noticing.

1. The pause feature works wonders. If you are talking about this anime then walking away and just listening to the audio does mean you will miss out on information like hints and clues. 2. So? Watch it in English but don't go all ignorant and state that being in English makes the dub better. Actors have to act well and writers have to write well too, it is a damn shame Funi didn't do either of those for Conan. 3. Is Case Closed the only anime you watch? Cause I can imagine you getting mentally stressed trying to watch the 99% of anime that do not change names. 4. Don't you for one minute tell me what I should listen to just because I speak a language. Reading captions or subtitles is freaking easy and people with more than half a brain are able to read the screen and see what is taking place in the anime. When there a lot of dialogue going on the only thing taking place on screen anyway is a picture on a character just flapping their mouth, there is not a lot of moving around in this anime since it is a mystery show. Get off your silly English supremacist thinking, you like english fine but in noway does there being an English dub of a show make it mandatory for English speakers to listen to. Learn about the world and that anglo-saxon names are not the only names out there. That and the voice acting is horrible. The names are silly and it is a good thing Funi dropped Conan so that Viz can stop renaming characters to match the fail dub.