Talk:Timeline

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Magic Kaito timeline

In the general interest of people wondering about this it is stated in V16-6, chapter 156, or anime ep 76, that Kaito Kid (Kuroba Kaito) reappeared two years ago and the original Kaito Kid (Kuroba Toichi) disappeared 10 years ago. Agasa reading the information about Kid to Conan says, "Shinichi-kun, I have compiled some information from your father's files and the recent newspapers, but Kaitou 1412 still seems to be shrouded by mystery. He first appeared 18 years ago in Paris. Ten years later, he suddenly disappeared, and many said he passed away. However, now, eight years later [i.e. two years ago], he has resurrected and is now mostly active in Japan." Chekhov MacGuffin talk 23:52, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


As you said, in V16-6, chapter 156, or anime ep 76, that Agasa said, "Shinichi-kun, I have compiled some information from your father's files and the recent newspapers, but Kaitou 1412 still seems to be shrouded by mystery. He first appeared 18 years ago in Paris. Ten years later, he suddenly disappeared, and many said he passed away. However, now, eight years later, he has resurrected and is now mostly active in Japan".

Kid first appeared 18 years ago. Ten years later [i.e. 8 years ago] he suddently disappeared. He has "resurrected" eight years later, i.e. eight years after his disappearence eight years ago, i.e. few months ago. Read also the following evidence:

-All MK chapters take place in a short amount of time, since charcacters always attend the second year of high school. Kaito has only a year left to find Pandora and in DC he is still after it.

-In Kid's debut in DC, in the end, both Kaito and Aoko have Ekoda High school uniform, meaning that they haven't gradueated yet.

-Hakuba is 17 in both Dc appearences, as aspected from a second grader.

-In volume 4 of MK, the frame of chapters 3-4 is set simultaneously of Kid's debut in DC, while the flashback is set when Shinichi is already famous, just before he was shrunk.

Bye. --81.174.2.239 09:12, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Name

I think it's alright to have the page named as "Timeline" instead of "Detective Conan timeline". The Magic Kaito timeline can be overlapped/merged to the DC one like we started doing already. But, as a DC wiki by "default", it's alright to say "Timeline" only as it's already implied it's DC-related. If we want to make a specific Magic Kaito timeline in the future, we can create a separate "Magic Kaito timeline" page. It's like how we have Volume 1-10 and Magic Kaito Volume 1-4. I was also thinking of adding a "Timeline" link in the sidebar under the "detective conan" section. --Maurice 14:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Kir's age

In the 21-30 years ago section, it says Rena Mizunashi's birth was 27 years ago (which matches the number in her page), but then again Hidemi Hondou is said to be born 25 years ago. So which data is the accurate one? If both numbers are mentioned in the series, then there's only one of them is true (which I think we should keep), and the other one was made up to cover her identity.

By the way, I don't think saying "birth of Rena Mizunashi" makes much sense because this person never existed in the first place. But that's another story. (Which reminds me, we should also do something about "birth of Subaru Okiya" when he's officially revealed to be Akai.) --- BLACK DEMON | Reply 22:25, 12 May 2013 (PDT)

Delete the 25. My guess is that it is a left over error and Hidemi and Rena are both 27. That should be verified. Akai could be lying about his age as Okiya, so there is no real point in having it now even though I think that Akai probably used his real age. Regarding Shiratori I looked for a source and didn't see any. I'm guessing thats about right though considering his age when he met Koboyashi in the store in the paper flower chain and theater case. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 11:20, 13 May 2013 (PDT)


Rum arc – Manga starting point

This page has 898 as the beginning of the Rum arc because Rum is first mentioned here, correct?

898 is part of Scarlet Showdown, along with 894, 895, 896 and 897; 898 is not listed as it's own case, right? So the case of Scarlet Showdown is considered to be both the end of one arc and the beginning of another? 898 seems far more tied to the Bourbon arc than to the Rum arc—it's mostly talking about what just happened in 894-897, and Rum isn't mentioned until the last page, making only 1/16th of the file actually about Rum—so why isn't 899 considered the beginning of the Rum arc?

And, if 898 is considered the beginning of the Rum arc, then why isn't 242 considered the beginning of the Vermouth arc?

--DCUniverseAficionado (talk) 05:47, 18 September 2016 (CEST)

Remember these are all fan created breaks. It seems that they are considering Scarlet Epilogue as its own case and counting the first chapter of the case that the BO member is first mentioned as the beginning of the arc. 238 was the first chapter of Reunion with the BO, 499 was the first chapter of Kir's appearance, 622 was the first chapter of the case Bourbon was mentioned, and Scarlet epilogue was the first chapter Rum was mentioned. The case starting with 899 doesn't have any mention of Rum directly.
238-242 is the case that introduces Vermouth, but Chris Vineyard appears half way through 239
499 is a case on its own and introduces Kir, but not by name until 500
622-624 just so happens to have Bourbon mentioned at the beginning of the first chapter of the case
898 is a case on its own and mentions Rum at the end of the chapter.
Arguably for me the Vermouth arc ends with the Halloween party case and the Butt Mark case where Jodie is in the hospital and offering Haibara Witness protection is just a carry over, just like how I'd argue that the Kir arc ends with Akai being shot and Kir returning to the BO, and the whole Eisuke case in the karaoke box is just a carry over that happens in the next arc. The plot of the Kir arc had ended and went back to normal cases.

--Jimmy-kud0-tv2 (talk) 06:55, 18 September 2016 (CEST)