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In [[Gingko-Colored First Love]], the 52 year-old Agasa says he attended Teitan elementary which means it is as least 40 years old if Agasa only attended in 6th grade when he was 12 years old. However, in [[A Video Letter of First Love]], 26 year old [[Sumiko Kobayashi]] was said to be in the 18th graduating class. Since Sumiko was 11 at a minimum while graduating from sixth grade, that means the school has been around the 15 years since plus 18 years before then for a total of 33 years. The disparity between the two start dates is at least 7 years if not more.
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In [[Gingko-Colored First Love]], the 52 year-old Agasa says he attended Teitan elementary which means it is as least 40 years old if Agasa only attended in 6th grade when he was 12 years old. However, in [[A Video Letter of First Love]], 26 year old [[Sumiko Kobayashi]] was said to be in the 18th graduating class. Since Sumiko was 11 at a minimum while graduating from sixth grade, that means the school has been around the 15 years since plus 18 years before then for a total of 33 years. That is a disparity of at least seven years.
  
 
===Incorrect English in London===
 
===Incorrect English in London===

Revision as of 23:20, 23 August 2015

This article is in a test-stage right now, please see the forum post.

This page lists what some fans believe to be oversights in Detective Conan: errors, plotholes, and omissions.

Because this is a contentious topic, please be civil and follow the format rules below. Also, please do not include oversights where the anime has done something differently from the manga or Gosho is consistently doing something unrealistically for dramatic effect. Those belong on the List of differences between the manga and anime and Internal rules in Detective Conan pages respectively.

This page uses a new and untried format, so rules and guidelines will be added as needed.

Format

==="Brief Description Here"===

In [[Mandatory link to case]] this thing happened that I think was wrong. A, B, and C is why I think so.

==== Rebuttals ====

If you have a difference of opinion or think you can resolve this error, this is where you put it.

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List

Missed clue on the Roller Coaster

In the Roller Coaster Murder Case, Shinichi mentioned that he felt a drop of liquid, the culprit's tear, hit his forehead as she leaned over him to place the loop around the victim's neck. However, Shinichi neglected to mention any change in the feeling or sound of the wind rushing past his face as the culprit leaned over him.

Gin right-handed in his first appearance

In the Roller Coaster Murder Case, Gin did everything like a right-handed person would. He adjusted his hat with his right hand and held the pipe he used to clobber Shinichi in his right hand. He also pulled the APTX pill out of the container and forced fed Shinichi the pill and the water with his right hand, only using his left as support. Gin was canonically confirmed to be left-handed later.

Dead victim flipped over

In An Idol's Locked Room Murder Case, the suicidal victim landed back-down on the knife and most likely died instantly according to the coroner[1], but the corpse is found in a belly-down position.

Rebuttal

The corpse could have flopped over after impact, had postmortem spasms and turned over, or the coroner was incorrect about the instantaneity of the death.

Matsumoto's vanishing scar

In several cases there are panels where Gosho forgot to draw Matsumoto's scar that crosses his left eye.[2] Cases where the scar is forgotten include:

  • The Poisoned Bride Case - At least nine examples across all three files.
  • Girl Clubbing Case - Two panels in Volume 29 files 1 and 2. Matsumoto is speaking with Megure about the case and Megure's past in the underground car park.
  • Takagi's Last Case - One panel in Volume 44 file 4 where Matsumoto is speaking with Megure at the police station.

The vanishing hole in the wall

In manga version of The Mist Goblin Legend Murder Case, in Volume 11, on the final page of File 9 the hole that was made by the water rushing out was drawn boarded up. It was properly depicted as broken open on the cover page of File 10.

Akai's wronghanded rifle

In Black Impact! The Moment the Black Organization Reaches Out, Akai's Accuracy International Arctic Warfare is a right-handed model rather than a left-handed one. The location of the bolt is on the right which means he would have have to awkwardly reach over with his left to operate it, an action that would mess up his precise 700 yard aim. Akai is also shown closing one eye while sniping. Professional snipers are typically taught to shoot with both eyes open to reduce eye fatigue and to maintain awareness of the surroundings.

The Black Organization knows Akai's cellphone number

In Clash of Red and Black, Gin forced Kir at gunpoint to call Akai and make a phony deal with him. It does not make sense for Gin to know Akai's cellphone number, nor would it make sense for him to expect Kir to know it. Shuichi Akai keeping the same cellphone number from his Black Organization days would be a massive security risk because it could be targeted for hacking or phone call interception.

Victim starved to death without attempting to escape from the Red Wall locked room

In The Mansion of Death and the Red Wall, the door to the room where Shusaku Akashi was barricaded in and the rolling trolley blocking the door were both undamaged. This would imply that Shusaku Akashi did not mount a serious attempt to escape by trying to break down the door or pick the lock. Normally it would be expected that a desperate starving person who had the energy to break a window to leave a dying message would attempt to escape imprisonment rather than docilely accepting death.

Teitan Elementary School's shrinking age

In Gingko-Colored First Love, the 52 year-old Agasa says he attended Teitan elementary which means it is as least 40 years old if Agasa only attended in 6th grade when he was 12 years old. However, in A Video Letter of First Love, 26 year old Sumiko Kobayashi was said to be in the 18th graduating class. Since Sumiko was 11 at a minimum while graduating from sixth grade, that means the school has been around the 15 years since plus 18 years before then for a total of 33 years. That is a disparity of at least seven years.

Incorrect English in London

In Holmes' Revelation, the note written by Hades Sabara was grammatically incorrect, chooses words poorly, and contained a misspelling.

A rolling bell rises me.
I'm a long nosed wizard in a castle.
My portion is a chilled boiled egg like a corpse.
I finish up with a whole pickle.
Now I remember to ask a cake to cerebrate in advance.
It rings again for my hatred.
Tells me to finish everything piercing a white back with two swords.

Shinichi's reversible bathroom door

In the manga version of Yusaku Kudo's Cold Case, in Volume 77 File 812, the hinges and handle of the bathroom door switched to the opposite side of the door and then back again.

Vermouth has Haibara's cellphone number

In The Jet-Black Mystery Train, how did Vermouth know Ai's cellphone number, so that she could text and threaten the shrunken scientist?[3]

Fukui Yuzuki knows Conan's name

In Kogoro in the Bar, how did Fukui the bartender know Conan's name, so that she could call him by his name and talking about him?

Rebuttal

In the manga at least, Yuzu didn't refer to Conan as Conan until after the sleeping detective show. It's possible that "Sleeping Kogoro" used Conan's name when ordering him to do part of the demonstration of the trick.

Tooru Amuro's inconsistent information access

In The Jet-Black Mystery Train and A Scarlet Return, it seems incredibly arbitrary that Tooru Amuro has access to info like knowing that Gin found a gum and wiretap combo twice, but doesn't get to see Akai's death files or his death video without permission.

Ran knows Naeko's name without meeting her

In The Strange Customers of the Ramen Restaurant, Ran was surprised to see traffic officers Yumi and Naeko enter Ramen Ogura. Naeko had appeared in several cases before then, but Ran was not present at any of them. Therefore Ran should not know Naeko's name or recognize her.


References

  1. ^ Manga Volume 1, File 7, page 8: "The Bloody Case of the Lovely Pop Idol"
  2. ^ jimmy-kud0-tv2 at DCW forums
  3. ^ :In File 825: Special Coach, on page 3, Conan explained that Okiya hacked Ai's phone and saw the message from Vermouth, meaning that Vermouth was the sender. Also if Vermouth wasn't the one who sent it, she wouldn't know when to time her attack.