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You misunderstood me. I mean that Gosho probably wanted to use it as a stylistic device like: same favorite colour, same blood type, same age AND same zodiac sign => OH,so much in common,they seem to be soulmates! :-) Do you get it? Just like that - as a symbol. There's a high chance that it could be like that because the first three commonalities are official. The movies are not (exactly) Canon- still Gosho has influence on it. You see that Shinichi's birthday is in manga and in the movie 1 May 4th. So the birth information about Ran could be valid,too. Besides I know that the blood type and the zodiac sign are not connected and that being the same zodiac sign doesn't mean that you are soulmates. I'm into astrology for years and it's much more extensive than that. =) Relationship astrology is not just about your zodiac sign (Sun sign). Logically there could be another birth date for Ran. If you think about what Gosho said in one interview some months ago. He said that there is an obstacle why he can't reveal Ran's birthday yet and that Ran is still 16. Many fans think that something important will occur on her birthday. You can't really create a timeline from the story but we know that some months passed but not yet a year cause all students are still in the same class. Besides Gosho said that Conan will never grow meaning that if he would come in the next grade the story probably will be over. The japanese school year lasts formally till March 31st. So it could be that the finale occur in in the end of the school year. And as Ran's birthday is still left- there's a chance that it will occur at the end of the story (March supposable) like "Conan change forever into Shinichi as Ran's birthday present." I like the idea somehow. =D Though it's just a theory.^^ Wish you a nice day. :-)

I know the source of Ran's October-birthday : At the beginning of one of first Live Actions (Dorama), Shinichi had said Ran's birthday was on the previous day, and on class the blackboard wrote, October 2nd. So according to the Dorama her birthday is October 1st. But I don't know how much influence Gosho has on the Dorama. Plus it makes not much sense as Ran said her birthday is 'a way off' from Eri's (October 10th) like Wakarimashita wrote. In Movie 1 Ran showed the horoscope of Taurus and said that her and Shinichi's lucky color this month is red. I know that the Movies are Anime-Originals BUT Gosho has influence on them as he often talks in interviews about the ideas he had e.g. for the 15th or 16th movie.But I don't know if this detail was Gosho's idea,too. Furthermore someone wanted to know Ran's blood type and I can say it's the same as Shinichi.(Volume 26) Most people say blood type B but I don't know the source for it. So they are same class,same blood type, maybe also same zodiac sign... Perhaps Gosho wants to show in this way that Ran and Shinichi are soulmates.

But can this be true? Because Kaito Kid shares Gosho's birthday,too. Therefore I would doubt that.

When did Gosho mention that Haibara's birthday is June 21st?

For me the answer is short and easy: Ran Reason: Shinichi loves Ran dearly.He would do everything for Ran. Shinichi and Ran are like two sides of the same coin.They complete and need each other. Shinichi and Shiho have a good relationship.They have a good understanding. He also likes Shiho very much but on a friendship level. ;-) I often can understand Shinichi's opinions and actions. Because I'm a bit similar to him.I'm Taurus,too. And I absolutely understand why Shinichi loves Ran and just likes Shiho. Have a great Sunday,too! :-)

Sorry but what's wrong with it when I sometimes like action and dramatic scenes? You don't have to feel bad for me. I think you just take the whole thing too serious. :wink: If you are that precise then you could say that in Beika city happen too many murders. Again Beika city is fiction. Detective Conan is fiction. It's an anime movie not a serious documentation. And most animes have that tale feeling.Conan is even one of the most realistic ones. Yes,the movies are a bit different (brighter and more dramatic) but I like them that way. Each movie deals with another topic which I appreciate. If you don't like them or the OVAs -it's okay but don't talk them down. It's a matter of taste.

I know what you mean. Yes,the movies,OVAs are surely not canon but an extension to the canon so that we have another facets of the series. It's all Detective Conan.:smile: When Haibara came to the anime she came to the movies etc. They take Shiratori to the anime. It belongs together. And that is the intension of Gosho who observes the production. Yes,the running gag with Hawaii- but he never deny the Hawaii-thing in the manga/anime. :wink: I see just more action and dramatic elements in the movies.That's usual for anime movies. Otherwise it would be boring. And you know Conan is sometimes exaggerated. I don't take it that serious cause it's an anime: there are a lot fictional things like the APTX (Gosho said it himself),too much luck,Conans and other characters' perfectness etc... And Shinichi is also not musical in the movies. He can sing or shout just tones in both anime and movie 12 but to be musical you have to connect tones to a melody in a beautiful way. So for me there's no contradiction.

For me the characters are not really changed.I sometimes think that Conan acts also too perfect in the manga. I mean no harm. It's just my personal opinion. The birthday is mentioned in the "Special Commemoration for the 500th file". At the moment I have no time to make a scan. I'm new at the forum and links are at most forums not allowed.

1) I don't think so.For me the characters appear to be the same. There are some different details,like in Movie 12 they say that Conan has perfect pitch and they don't do that in the manga but even that might be possible: In the episode 385 Conan has an argument with Ran about the notes of Anokata's number. In the episode 387 we can see that Conan was right although Ran is more musical (singing,playing piano). Haga tells Conan that he got "good ears".It's not that easy to define the notes even if you're not musical. So there's a good chance that Conan really has perfect pitch. For me the movies/OVAs/fillers are well-made and they don't disturb the manga/regular episodes. Of course,it's difficult to convert a manga to an anime.But comparing to other animes it's really close to the manga which I really like. Sometimes filler appear to play in another month or something like that but the time line in Detective Conan is anyway really complicated. 2)Volume 48,Chapter 11 - Shinichi's birthday is mentioned. 3)Surely,Gosho does not make the entire movie but he has a big influence on it. It seems like he is "overseeing" the whole production. In 2011 in an interview he said that he is proud of movie 5 and he spoke about suggestions he made for movie 15,drawing Shinichi's face for a scene and giving Conan a phrase from the manga that he liked. So you see he is involved in the process. Besides I don't think that they can make Ran blonde, Akemi alive or change detective agency just because they want it. But how you write it seems like the movies would be totally apart in a different world but for me it's not the case. I know that movies are in way separate ,plus I always wrote "For me" or "IMO" they are an extension to the canon.

For me,personally, all movies and OVAs are an extension to the canon cause none of them changes everything really important for me in my opinion. There are some different things but still most of them could match to the canon. I love every movie and OVA- each is different and has another focus. I like some of them even bit more than some episodes. Plus each character is the same. Besides for me the manga/anime is not really more realistic than the movies. IMO Detective Conan is mostly realistic but has some "exaggerated elements". Like sometimes you just think Conan is veryyyyy lucky. :razz: But for me it's okay, it's an anime. Fortunately,it's no serious documentation.That would be dry and boring for me. Furtnermore I don't want to compare it with other movies or something else. I'm just happy how it is. And Gosho has big influence on each movie- He is working on the mangas,the movies and the episodes are made from the manga except the fillers. @angelranchan Shinichi's official birthday is May 4th in the manga and in the movies (mentioned in the 1st and 3rd) @IHKF I love the character development in the movies,too. Also the possibilities to have different focuses like the friendship theme in Movie 11 or the musical theme in Movie 12. For me the movies and OVAs a very nice extension to the Anime. IMO there's no reason to seperate them.