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And in Kazuha's case, she reacted first by pointing out how Ran could've done it better, then thanked her—which makes Kazuha, perhaps, more than "chill." Remember—Ran once took off her shirt in front of Kazuha (File 211/Episode 141), at a time when Kazuha still thought Ran and Heiji were a thing, and, thus, Ran was her rival. From that scene on, though, they've been nothing but the best of friends. So I'd say the scene from File 983 was about as unorthodox as the scene from File 211—the scene that resulted in them becoming very good friends. And then there's Ran's intent by it—it comes from a desire to try and make her feel better—Kazuha would know why Ran would do that. Ultimately, her reaction says it all—she blushes and smiles. So Ran succeeded, with her in-character desire to try to make people feel better (just like in 211 when she changed her shirt to show Kazuha that they weren't rivals over Heiji), though, this time, by doing something she normally wouldn't do (just like in 211)—well before 983, it was established that Ran had the capacity to do something like this, and Kazuha was the character she was with when she did it, so with these characters (Ran and Kazuha) in this world (the world of DC), this scene was far more believable than, say, Gin and Shuichi suddenly being able to curve bullets, like the characters from Wanted. And then there's everything in Meitantei's post, which I do very much agree with. Yeah, this is definitely YMMV.1 point
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I'm actually with Chek on this one. It seemed very much out of character for Ran, who is usually so supportive of Kazuha in her efforts to get closer to Hattori, to be so callous as to pull a stunt like that. It came across to me as a slap in the face, and Kazuha not taking offense seemed even more implausible. Had I been in Kazuha's position and had a friend do something like that, I would have been pissed. I still love the series, and I still think Aoyama-sensei is a great mangaka, but I really think he screwed up with that scene.1 point
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Sorry, but I'm not getting it. Ran was trying to cheer her up, and Kazuha seemed happy with her doing that. So I'd say it was more of a sweet little moment than "melodrama" and "funny..." sorry, I'm still not getting how you got those two things out of that scene.1 point
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My apologies for not more carefully crafting that post before I clicked "submit." It has led to misinterpretation, something I wish to avoid. I did not mean to offend/insult you—if you feel offended/insulted, then I accept responsibility and apologize.1 point
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Really, all I want to see is Heiji speaking English more in the anime. His VA is shockingly fluent.1 point
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[quote=AnimeOtakuDrew]I agree that the reveal could be done without putting Ran in danger, and even her acceptance of it; I just think that having it that way would be the most dramatically intense. I do, however, really like the idea of Ran doing some investigating of her own leading up to the discovery. Perhaps she does her investigating, has it completely figured out, right down to the Black Organization even, but it isn't confirmed yet, then the some member of the Organization notices her investigating and thinks the BO is her target and goes after her. This could then leads to a situation such as I described, where either saving Ran will confirm what her investigation found and reveal his identity to her, or revealing his identity to her will save her life. I like the idea of combining both of those: Ran's detective work AND the dramatically intense saving Ran by revealing himself.[/quote] It certainly is dramatically intense, though I think the better course of drama would be a two fold development for Conan. Namely once Ran is brought into the fold, things should rightfully be uneasy for both of them. Not just because Ran is now a potential target for sure, but she still has to cope with the fact that someone she loves has been. As such Conan has to also realize that for all of the danger that the Organization may pose, he has the potential to cause Ran more emotional hurt through his actions than they can with their physical threats. And of course, Ran being in on the secret means that she could potentially be a big help in some cases whether filler based or Organization related ones. During which, Conan also has to accept that the person he underestimated most is in some respects his best ally. Basically what I'm getting at is that sometimes the best drama comes not from dealing with the bad guys, but rather the hero having to acknowledge and to overcome their own unsavory traits. After all, fighting a criminal is relatively easy for Shinichi, whereas admitting to imperfection is arguably his biggest flaw. And aside from Ran needing more to do in the overall plot, Conan definitely need such a wake up call. Especially when his initial philosophy is "There is only one truth". Cool. As a bit of an advice, if you have Netflix or at least you have a friend or family member who lets you use their account, episodes 748-799 is available for viewing with subtitles. Additionally, Crunchyroll also has some of those episodes, plus 800-829. 830 is available as well, but only for paid subscribers, but as with all episodes on the site it seems, it will be available for free viewing in 3 days. As such when you get to those episodes I suggest you view them in that manner if the option is available. Especially as more views would possibly encourage them to add more Detective Conan for legal viewing. [quote=Ayuna Yume] And someone mentioned that BO's not sparing her even if she doesnt know, so I don't see the point in keeping the secrets, and also no matter when she finds out, she would always forgive him coz its Ran, she would never use her karate on Shinichi, pls dont mind my previous comment:( [/quote] Plus I think for all of the times that Ran has displayed less flattering traits like superstition, that shouldn't be used as a reason to dismiss the possibility that she is capable of holding her only or displaying strength and intelligence when it matters. 1. For one thing, it's not like Shinichi/Conan is any better. Take a couple of old cases: - Ayumi-chan Kidnapping Case: Mistook a couple of actors for kidnappers. - Conan Edogawa Kidnapping Case: Didn't pick up on the clues that his parents were punking him. True, those were more plausible fears rather than say believing that Dracula and the legion of the undead are planning to invade Tokyo, but nonetheless Shinichi is suppose to be smarter than not only the average teen, but practically the entirety of the police force. And a major reason he's in his predicament is due to him overestimating himself and being outsmarted by a long haired main in dark clothing holding a pipe. Now some of you might be thinking, "but Ran tends to maintain her flaw while those mistakes you cited were from early on in the series". Well, in Volume 49 (Episode 425), Conan forgot to remove some chewing gum with a tracer from Hidemi's residence which resulted in Gin nearly offing Kogoro. And that would have likely been the outcome if Akai wasn't in the picture. Plus, even later, he had to pretty much confess his feelings to Ran in the London arc, just because he didn't do a good enough job at avoiding her. And in all actually, I do like Conan/Shinichi. I may be more critical of him as of late, but my point is that any character can look dumb if you choose to focus only on the mistakes and low points. Now for an alternative comment to follow... 2. Any problem Ran possesses really strikes me as Gosho unwilling to let her experience more growth and development despite giving pretty much other characters a chance to be better. Even then I think Ran has shown more potential than given credit for. To start off simple, like Shinichi she too has kept her own feelings a secret for a longtime and despite her friend being a very smart detective, he still didn't figure it out until she told him directly while he was Conan. To bring up a previous comment I made, look at The Desperate Revival. To bring it up I'll concede right now is a double-edged sword as Ran did let it slip that she was onto Conan's secret for the third time, start with the first part in Episode 188. However, let's really look at that example. Unlike the previous times she showed suspicion that Conan and Shinichi are one in the same, she didn't just happen to stumble onto the secret this time. It's hinted in both the manga and anime that she held onto that suspicion from Volume 14/Episode 96 (The Cornered Famous Detective! Two Big Murder Cases). In other words, she held onto the knowledge of Conan being Shinichi for 10 manga volumes or on the anime side, 91 episodes before Conan became aware of the fact. And while Conan/Shinichi isn't infallible despite popular belief, it's still no small feat when someone, especially an average teenager can get the better of him or withhold important information from him. As such, I imagine she could do even better if trusted to do so, especially with other people in on the secret being able to help her adjusting to such rather than working against her.1 point
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I believe it was before V53 P8 - I think it came up recently in the "Raven Apocalypse" booklet, but I think there is also an interview from a couple years ago saying the same thing? Another thing in regards to Matsumoto... I think it's possible they will write him off. Kuroda is basically his replacement, and his VA passed away a couple years ago, unfortunately.1 point
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Personally i think Ran has doubted about Conan's secret recently, but she chooses not to ask because she knows he will find a way to deny like many times before. She understands he has a reason to hide his identity due to some case's problem. Plus, Ran also need to find more evidences before jumping to conclusion. Remember the case about Kazuha's charm, Ran remembered Conan was the one kept Heji's charm, not Shinichi. Although Kazuha said Shinichi might borrowed the charm before and Ran agree but there was still something on her face that confused me. Ran also said something to Conan which was about ADN helps to recognize people even they change their appearance. There was an episode Ran was so surprised by Conan's action which make her ask him if he really is Conan and again, her face make me think she was not convinced by Conan's answer. Finally, if you noticed, Ran usually blushes when she get close to Conan in the recent chapters ( when she put a bandage on Conan's arm; when she touched her forehead to his to check his temperature; when she ask who's the one he likes, Ayumi or Haibara) etc Anyway, it's just my opinion, maybe i was too sensitive about these things If anyone has any idea please share1 point
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More than ten people know, and a serious amount have their suspicions... Really, I think Ran already knows, but is keeping it to herself this time. Every time she's voiced her suspicions she's been tricked, lied to, and distracted. If I were her I'd hold it in for now, and do some detective snooping of my own, finding a way to back Conan into a corner. She's been so close so very many times. Honestly, I think Heiji is going to be the one to ultimately screw it up. He's messed up quite a bit already, and he'll eventually slip up to the point where they can't smooth it over. Coupled with Ran's already obvious thoughts about Conan being Shinichi, it's only a matter of time. How many times he blurts out KUDO is enough to make me shake my head.1 point
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Considering how long the series has gone on, and that it might still be a while before ending, a change would arguably be a good thing. And it could make for an interesting characterization for Ran to find medium between being involved while knowing when to leave things up to Shinichi/Conan. And the hinderance argument works both ways. Look at the end of Episode 523 where Shinichi has to hide before he turns back into Conan and Ran tries to keep him there. Had Ran been in on the secret, that little incident wouldn't have happened. Edit: Now lets look at the heart of the matter. The rationalization for keeping Ran in the dark is to keep her from becoming a target. But look at Episode 425 when they thought Kogoro was onto them. Gin was perfectly willing to kill Conan (who from their perspective was a 7 year old boy unaware of the Organization), and thus Ran could still be a target even if she isn't in the know.1 point