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  1. Note: this fanfiction is a half-way collaboration between theownerer and MeitanteiSnow. This story is about us two online friends getting sucked into the world of DC. Ch. 1 MeitanteiSnow's POV As I logged in DCW, I saw theownerer had came online too. I quickly went to personal messenger to chat with him. theownerer: Hey, what's up? MeitanteiSnow: My day was really bad. Enough said. theownerer: yeah, me too. MeitanteiSnow: it would be nice to escape reality sometimes.... theownerer: yeah... Suddenly there was a bright glow in my room. It got brighter.....And then darkness. When I finally came too, i was in a park and I saw a figure lying down next to me. I looked at it, or him, i saw he had short black hair and he was wearing a Japanese uniform. Suddenly a small wind came and my legs felt cold. [Cold? I'm wearing jeans today...] I looked down and saw that I was wearing a blue skirt. Somehow, the jeans had been traded for a skirt. I looked at my top and saw that I was wearing a blue vest with a three-quarters white collared shirt. On that vest I saw a logo. A VERY FAMILIAR logo. Teitan High. Just I was looking at my sudden change of clothes, the boy next to me had woke up. He, too was inspecting himself and was surprised at what he found, too. I turned around. The boy had blue eyes, and was wearing a Japanese uniform I also know too well. It was the school uniform that Heiji wore in the detective battle in Three Days with Hattori Heiji. He looked me like I had an explanation. I didn't. It was awkward for a moment until he spoke. This time he had a look of recognition in his eyes. "MeitanteiSnow?" I looked at him. "How did you know? Who are you?" I managed to say. "I'm theownerer." He replied. What? It couldn't be.....but somewhere down I knew that it was the truth. I also figured something else. I spoke again. "Looks like we managed to get sucked into the real Detective Conan world. I can't believe I'm animated." It's true. I quickly whipped out a mirror from my skirt pocket and looked at myself. I now had waist-length brown hair, and brown eyes. Just then I heard a voice calling "Yuiki!" "Kageyama!" Another called. Those voices sound very familiar... As I thought that I heard footstep running towards us. A hand clamped on my shoulder and I spun around. There they were, Conan Edogawa and Heiji Hattori standing in front of me. "Where were you two, you made us worry!" Conan said. Heiji added "Ya also made us go around lookin' for ya." Ran and Kazuha ran up to join us. "Yuiki, where were you?" Ran said. [Yuiki? Does she means me?] and Kazuha said "you too, Shiki, where did ya go?" [shiki?] "Yuiki? Shiki? What do you mean?" I spoke out first. Ran, Conan, Heiji and Kazuha stared at me. Conan spoke first "Yuiki-neechan, don't you remember? He continued "You are my-I mean Shinichi-niichan and Ran-neechan's childhood friend and Shinichi-niichan's partner. You two are the Detectives of the East" Heiji added "You too, Shiki. You're Kazuha and my childhood friend. And ya are detective partners with me too, we are the Detective of the West" "We are WHAT?!"
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  2. Dear God, PLEASE LET PTI WIN CLEANSWEEP PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I BEG YOU PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -me
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  3. Apologies for the double post. There are some things I still don't get about the case. I can't come up with an answer I like, one free of contradictions. That makes picking the culprit hard but I think it is either Rumi or Settsu. My thoughts so far. Timing of Events Waka was drinking with Kaga until 05:00 Midday next day, Settsu, who was waiting with Rumi, went to the bathroom for a while. 30 minutes later, Kaga arrives and goes to the bathroom. Very soon after, Rumi and Ran go to check on Waka while Kaga is still out 30 minutes later, Kaga and Settsu go to check on the girls and are delayed by getting the door unlocked by staff. Manipulator positions. Rumi hired Sera, Sera was with Rumi all day acting as alibi. Settsu went to restroom prior to Ran and Conan arriving. Settsu made reservation at a restaurant that is hard to get reservations for, but had no control over who would attend. Rumi told Settsu that sister would not be attending. Settsu invited Ran right away after hearing sister would not be attending. Kaga asks to use restroom when he comes, Settsu tells him where it is. Rumi decides she wants to look for Waka Settsu had the room key, asks Rumi to return it to Waka. Settsu told Ran to go with Rumi to go upstairs, excuses himself from doing it. Rumi opens door to the apt. Rumi tells Ran where to search, while going to answer her phone while heading towards the living room. After Ran faints, Rumi has free run of the place. Assumptions that are probably fair to make Settsu was watched by Sera and Conan while he was downstairs, except for his bathroom break. Everything that happened when Settsu and Kaga went to find out why Ran, Rumi, and Waka were delayed probably happened as the two guys told because of extra witnesses that can verify. Also the details of the entry situation were not shown, and normally clue relevant scenes are shown or mentioned. I wouldn’t worry about where in the house the guys checked first. Conan presumably followed them, and maybe Sera as well. Character of the crime The crime seems premeditated in that obtaining chloroform requires planning ahead of time. However, a golf club as a murder weapon is not very premeditated. A golf club would make sense only if the culprit needed a blunt instrument, but that person was forced to use what was available and couldn’t bring something better ahead of time without arousing suspicion or worry it might be discovered. Also the failure to dispose of the chloroform in a better fashion is unusual because it doesn’t look like a suicide if the bottle is left in the kitchen sink away from the location of death, thus implicating one of the three suspects who visited recently. Also the door was locked, which does not match the image of a random break-in attacker. It would make sense that the culprit could not dispose of the chloroform and murder weapon in a better fashion, perhaps because they were pressed for time or worried about someone coming. The state of the victim’s body suggests that she was killed while awake with a blunt instrument while fiddling with her eye, because going unconscious first due to chloroform should result in a face like Ran’s with both eyes closed. A facial is something you don’t put on with makeup that you intend to keep on because the facial has to get washed off. That means the makeup Waka has on currently is last night’s makeup. Maybe she was planning on taking a shower in prep for the lunch. She had to take her contacts out that she left in overnight because she passed out. She might have been winking because she was taking out one of her contacts when she was killed and died nearly instantly. So where did her contact go? Not a suicide One possibility is Waka tried to commit suicide with chloroform. It explains why the narcotic was in the apartment in the first case. However, suicide is probably not what happened because it fails to explain why would the victim’s head be beaten, and the body winking. The damage seems to be worse than just falling over and hitting her head, otherwise Yokomizo might have mentioned that possibility. Also the facial is something that would have been put on after Kaga left, and it doesn’t make sense to dress up to die. The trick, the shower, and the red stuff- unfortunately contradictions? It seems like the shower is going when Ran enters based on the smoke/steam and the sound effect that appears to be a whining shower sound. Since there isn’t water on the ground, I assume it is pouring into the tub. Since there is a lot of steam, I assume there is still hot water and the shower hasn't been running all day, the culprit recently turned it on. Or something was put in the tub in the water to make it look like the room was foggy from hot water... One possibility is that the red paint was prepared ahead of time to be fake blood. (To make cleanup easier the fake blood could be solidified, so it would peel up and then melt when exposed to water. Would also explain why the shower was left running to make sure it all dissolved away.) The culprit entered the apartment and applied fake blood around Waka after she was drunk and asleep in the bathroom. Chloroform was added to the room to keep Waka down. (When?) Ran walked in when Waka was really only knocked out, was knocked out herself, the red stuff was cleaned up, and then Waka was killed for real. The problem is the state of the body with one eye shut, like Waka was in the process of applying makeup or removing contacts when she was killed and died instantly. Also to make this work the culprit needs to come early once, and has to cleanup while Ran is down, somehow not being knocked out herself. This needs time to evacuate the room or some sort of protection. Finally Waka has on a face mask, if she was asleep drunk, when did she put that on? After Kaga made her lock the door? If the substance was not used for faking blood then makeup like liquid rouge, lip gloss, or nail polish makes the most sense for red paint-like stuff considering the location. If so, the presence of the stuff in the tub is strange because you would think that makeup is more likely to be found in the sink part of the bathroom. Perhaps the red product contained chloroform that was injected with the syringe and used to knock out Waka when she used it. Maybe another makeup product contained chloroform and was used to knockout Waka and the red was knocked over accidentally? Ran got close enough to sniff it and pass out, but it seemed too strong for this technique considering how everyone else acted. Maybe the culprit knocked over the red accidentally because they were clumsy and had to wash it away? If the culprit was killed instantly while at the sink, it would more naturally explain Waka's winking pose versus both eyes closed due to chloroform knockout. Maybe the culprit knocked over the red stuff in the process and washed it away in the bath because it was easier. They left the shower on because they didn't want someone to notice the bath was wet but off for no reason, and moved Waka's body into the shower room to make it look like she was preparing to shower. The purpose of the chloroform here is unexplained. Whatever the substance, the culprit turned on and ran the shower most likely to wash away the red paint substance and fill the room with steam. Culprit is probably not Kaga I don’t think the culprit is Kaga because he could have set up a “drunk accident” the night before and not implicate himself. A slip and fall would be reasonable. There is no particular reason for Kaga to delay murderous intentions until the morning of the lunch meet, because there wouldn’t be better circumstances for murder then. That means that if Kaga killed Waka later that day when he went to the bathroom, it would be an unpremeditated crime. Kaga wouldn’t have been able to bring chloroform because that does require some premeditation to obtain. Also, I can’t think of a plan for Kaga where using chloroform would make sense, much less leaving it and the murder weapon in the apartment. Let’s assume Kaga is telling the truth from here on. Things to think about if the culprit is Rumi. Rumi has not been wearing contacts in the entire time she has appeared and appears to be very near sighted. The evidence for this is: She missed Settsu’s key catch. She had to hold the key up to her face before unlocking the door to make sure she put it in the right way. She had to hold the phone close to her face to see who she is calling. Conan told her what the picture was so she didn’t have to bend close to see his phone. She failed to find Settsu’s watch in the living room, assuming she was looking for it. There was no way she would if her eyesight was that bad. Poor eyesight means Rumi is more likely to spill something by bumping into it, like whatever the red paint substance (makeup) is. Also Rumi seemed sure the dead person was Waka until Kaga asked the police if it really was her. Rumi apparently saw Waka was wearing a facial mask. How did she know Waka was the dead person when her vision sucks? Was it an assumption or did she slip up? Could she even see well enough to whack Waka's head well? Rumi asked Ran to go to the place with the chloroform, and avoided it herself with the phone as an excuse. Sera’s later call seems to indicate phones get fine reception in the apartment and there was no need to take the call on the veranda. The timing of incoming phone call from Settsu could have been convenient coincidence, as Rumi could have also been intending to fake it. Why would Rumi execute her plan without her glasses/contacts? Isn't it risky? She could do the fake blood murder version, but the chloroform must have been added to the room early in the morning. This matches with the character of the crime in that there are some preprepared elements and the golf club was on the spot. Also, it sounds like the shower was on when Ran walked in meaning it must have been turned on early in the morning before the meet with Sera. How is it still hot enough to make steam? Rumi doesn’t seem to relock the door; she seems to go straight for veranda contrary to her testimony. When did she relock? Locking the door extends the time before discovery. Rumi could not throw the bottle and syringe over the veranda because she could not see if below was clear. Rumi could have hired Sera as an alibi. Rumi set up the circumstance for the crime early the morning of? If would have to be so if fake blood was involved. Also the room has to be filled with chloroform somehow. It’s also possible Rumi was just clumsy with red makeup of something because her vision is bad and had to wash it off her and down the tub. She then leaves the shower on. How is the water still hot though? Evidence in favor of the culprit being Settsu. Settsu has the most suspicion on him because he has the key. Unless it was a crime of unpremeditated passion, killing Waka in the way she was killed would be the worst for him, especially since he took a bathroom break. That said, he could have been counting on everybody to forget where he went. He didn’t know Sera was hired by Rumi after all and meeting Ran and Conan was a coincidence. Also of issue is why Settsu would need chloroform at all. If he were to commit the crime, he would have to go upstairs, hit her, and leave. The chloroform seems extraneous. What does he need it for? No other suicide/robbery scenarios seem to have been employed that might make chloroform attractive to use. Also, he could have removed the murder weapon or something like that on the way down. Maybe he intended to give Rumi an alibi by "attacking" her or her sister who was supposed to show up with chloroform, not knowing Sera was Rumi's alibi? That would explain why he might divert Rumi away from the bathroom by pretending not to hear her on the phone so Ran would take the fall. Timing wise, if there was still hot water, him turning on the shower makes more sense than Rumi who would have had to do it earlier. The fake blood theory doesn't work for him because he wouldn't have had the opportunity to hit her later under Kaga, Conan, Sera, and the door opener's watch. Settsu could manipulate Rumi away from the bathroom and the chloroform if he pretends to have a bad connection. Settsu was pretty distressed about the sister not being there, and he easily invites Ran to join even though she has Conan with her. He says that an extra kid wouldn't be a big deal, but just 5 seconds earlier he was talking about how difficult it was to get her a reservation at the famous restaurant. Maybe he's so quick to bring them along because he knows they won't make it to the restaurant anyway? When Settsu hands Conan the coins directly it may imply he was not confident in his vision to hand them back. That said he was able to read his watch in the lobby when he looked at it. Also, the missing memento wristwatch story is odd. Why did Settsu call Rumi if she already knew to look for the watch? Settsu has a watch in the lobby. Why does he need to find another watch? Where did Settsu’s watch he looked at in the lobby go by the time we get to the last page? His left hand is in his pocket, but on last page we can see his left hand wrist and the watch is not there. He went to the bathroom earlier before and he should have had the watch then, so he has no reason to take it off unless he is hiding the fact he had one to make the missing memento watch story check out. What if Settsu spilled the red on his watch, but then took it off before anyone noticed when he heard the investigation found red in the bath trap? Apparently didn’t know about Sera being there after death discovered, or that Rumi hired her to watch. Nobody finds it odd that the ex would be mad at dinner, it doesn't sound like two people who are secretly seeing each other. Main issues. How and when was the chloroform released? You could make a “time bomb” by putting the bottle of chloroform behind the bathroom door so it tips over and releases chloroform when the bathroom door is opened? Problem is that it does not use the syringe. Why was chloroform necessary at all? It seems to complicate the crime with little benefit, especially because it requires premeditation to bring. The fake blood thing could justify it, but contradictions. When was the vic killed and where? Before or after being chloroformed? In front of the sink or the shower? Waka should take out her contacts in the sink part of the bathroom. Why is she in the shower part of the bathroom? (Unless she was dragged in there after being hit while taking out contacts in front of the sink.) What is the red paint substance and why was the shower head left running? Why would Rumi not bring her contacts? Other things to think about. I wonder if Waka falling asleep on the veranda was a test run? Could Rumi and Settsu be working together or covering for one another? If so, Rumi did not mention Sera to Settsu as he seems to be surprised. Possibly blood on golf club isn’t Waka’s? What if the vic fell asleep in the shower room after drinking with makeup still on and prep for facial before bed? Rumi or Settsu could come over early and manipulate the scene. The chloroform as a red herring? Chloroform in red liquid which is then cleaned out? Chloroform in the contact solution? Door not really locked? If door already unlocked Rumi would have had more trouble. The description “giving away inside” does sound like proper bolt sliding and unlocking. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Now that the solution is out... The solution seems to be overly complicated. It's like the culprit expected there to be a strong detective on the scene to think of the Rumi-in-disguise version of the trick. Yokomizo wouldn't have bothered on his own. The culprit shows intelligence by coming up with a plan to implicate another person by making it look like they performed a trick, yet it contradicts with the culprit poorly thinking out several components. He is still a major suspect and Yokomizo would have hauled him off anyway had Sera, an unexpected guest, not stepped in. How did Settsu know what instructions Rumi would give Ran when she got upstairs? Ran might not have been first to the chloroform if Rumi politely asked her to wait until she finished the phone call because Rumi decided that it would be better to go together rather than have Ran wake Waka alone. What if Ran was feeling shy/polite and waited outside the shower until Rumi finished the call instead of barging into the room? That problem would have still existed even if Rumi's sister came along instead of Ran. Also the culprit didn't paint the ground with red paint. Wouldn't forensics notice the fake death didn't add up once they tried to verify Rumi's "scheme"? Then there are the contradictions Conan pointed out. The whole thing seems favor story (Conan gets to beat Sera again) over logic. Even though Waka put Settsu's contact in her own eye, wouldn't both her eyes close after she finished because she was falling unconscious? Also Gosho seems to have forgotten hot water is not infinite, especially in apartments....
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  4. Theownerer/Shiki's POV "is there something wrong with you two?" asked Ran. Kazuha added, "yeah, there must be somethin' wrong with ya two.". I quickly called Meitantei over for a quick conversation. I asked, "hey hey...are we really in the world of detective conan?" he responded "yeah...uh...I think we are." [This is really weird...] "um...okay, so what are we doing here?" I asked. Heiji responded, "don't ya remember? I came here because I was bored back in Osaka, so I came here to visit Conan." "Yuiki can you come here for a moment?" I asked, "yeah sure" she responded. "so what should we do now, should we tell them that, we don't know what's going on?" I asked. "I think we should wait for now" Yuiki answered. "Yeah I agree" I said When we got back, I saw another figure speaking to the four friends, and saw that it was Mouri, they were talking about something and I could faintly hear it. "Yuiki I think they're talking about something, I think they're saying, (hey ................................... someone got ........ , I think the area is........................................should we go now?" Mouri asked, "Well.................it's a ........................ so it's gotta be ........................ we should go!" Heiji said.) ." "I think it might be serious, let's follow" I said. "Wait...we don't want to get involved in murders, if we solve the case and get the murderer in jail...we might be on his list!" Yuiki said "But don't you remember, even if we're on his list, we will return to the real world!" I said. "Shiki, fine, let's go to the crime scene, but ...we've stood here a long time, they already left..." Yuiki said. "oh yeah...I just noticed that...um, yeah we should probably not get involved now" I said. As Yuiki and I walked away, we heard a scream from far away. I didn't know why, but I had a backpack on me, and somehow it held a kendo sword, so I took out the sword and prepared to fight if he or she had a weapon, we rushed to where the person had screamed, when we arrived we noticed it was Ran, being held captive, but she wasn't using karate. I didn't know why she wasn't using karate, but Heiji and I got out our swords and started charging at the kidnapper, I noticed that I was extremely skilled in kendo, but didn't even know the first thing about a sword in the real world. I heard horrible singing and looked behind me, Yuiki was singing and Yuiki's horrible singing was making the kidnapper put his hands to his ears and drop Ran. So, Heiji and I charged in and started hitting him with the kendo sword.
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  5. "At some point you will realize that you have done too much for someone, that the only next possible step to do is to stop. Leave them alone. Walk away. It's not like you're giving up, and it's not like you shouldn't try. It's just that you have to draw the line of determination from desperation. What is truly yours will eventually be yours, and what is not, no matter how hard you try, will never be."
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  6. There's lunacy and then there's just plain lunacy. For the love of pete, please read what you just said out loud. You're legitimately insinuating that a roleplaying group on a forum that barely gets most of the traffic that comes to DCW is going to become just as important as the top fan-sourced wiki/encyclopedia for Detective Conan information (Wikipedia's content is laughable). DCTP is bar-none a bigger board than we are. They have more roleplays going on than we do. And they don't have a roleplay board. Why? Because there's not enough to warrant including the board. Even their semi-roleplaying game Mafia is in the games sub-forum. Take my Magic Kaito point, which everyone glossed over. Logic dictates that since Magic Kaito is Conan-related it would get its own board, right? There's not enough discussion to warrant creating the board for it. If there was, it would have happened by now, but there isn't. I hate to break it to you kids, but like 10% of the traffic for DCW comes from here. It's all in the wiki. No amount of roleplays and special forums and all that jazz will ever change that. Believe me, I've tried. The wiki is a giant. It's what people come to this website for. The traffic comparison is never going to change. It's too large of a difference.
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  7. Yes!! I would hope!! Probably just as obnoxiously long as usual!! I highly doubt that!!
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  8. Today, April 10th, is the third anniversary of none other than Detective Conan World!! It's so shocking how much of a long way we've come. Three years ago on this date, Maurice started up a little website that had a tiny forum and an even tinier wiki. Originally the main page was in a blog format, but it wasn't until later that Maurice changed everything to what most of you know now. I still remember the original forum layout we had, back when the only active folks here were me, Maurice, Southpaw, and lashedcheek. What an amazing difference three years makes. It wasn't long before we received recognition on other places, including support from The Detective Conan Translation Project, especially from Jd-, who has given me lots of moral support from even when the place first started out, and has lent a helping hand in many of our projects (with the favor returned from DCW to DCTP as well). Hard to believe that in three years, we've gotten so many excellent projects completed on this little website: - Two translated chapter works by Gosho Aoyama (one of them an un-translated Magic Kaito chapter that, with our help, finally got the release it deserved, and another work is the original Magic Kaito prototype) - This incredible fan-community. The little forum that could, its active-ness putting this community into the upper-level in the Detective Conan fandom. - An amazing wiki that is full of excellent and organized information, including theories and analysis, that just keeps growing as the days go by. - The podcast that I work on with the help of so many other people, a podcast that is gaining tract in the fandom and popularity amongst many folks from all places.And that's not even counting tons of other things that are in the works here at DCW!! I would most like to thank Maurice though. Without Maurice, this website isn't even a website. While Maurice may not be as active on this forum as he used to be, he still drops in to check if things are alright, and still works hard to add features and exciting new things to this little community here.I would just like to thank all of you for supporting the site through Facebook, Twitter, the wiki, our podcasts, and other places!! Keep up the support and keep sticking with us, because, as Frank Sinatra once so beautifully put it: Thank you for your support, from all of us at Detective Conan World!!
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  9. Per Wakarimashita, a new Detective Conan live-action special has been announced, and it'll feature Heiji and Kazuha!! So, what does everyone think?
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  10. This is a message from all of the friendly staff members of Detective Conan World's message board to you, our members. Please take time out to read it. We are close knit community here at DCW, and we like to watch out for each other, so we would like to remind everyone here of a few general guidelines on how to be safe on the internet. This website consists mostly of teens and young adults, many of which are legally underage by law. If you receive any kind suggestive solicitation or request for cybersex from any user, even one you have known a while and trust, tell a moderator about it. This kind of thing is strictly not allowed on DCW because of the ages of our general user population, and there will be permanent ban for anyone found looking for or using underaged DCW members to engage in "internet romance". From a personal safety standpoint, be careful of people who are looking for internet romance on websites like DCW, even if you have known them for a while, you trust them, and they are kind to you. It could very well be possible that they are USING you, and playing to your emotions. They may not care to care about you emotionally, they will cheat on you, and they will drop you as soon as they are bored. They will say otherwise, but that's very commonly how it goes. They may even stalk you, and it can get worse and scarier from there. Detective Conan World is not the relationship police. If you want to pursue a relationship on here knowing full-well the consequences, it is up to you to work that out if you are of legal age. However, if we learn that another user is soliciting cybersex on this forum, then it will not be tolerated and will lead to a permanent ban of that said-user. This site is pretty light-hearted and fun, but once something like that happens then we have no choice but to put our foot down. No exceptions. No matter how much of a well-regarded member you are around here. Please, stay safe and please report anything sketchy that someone else tells you to the moderators. Thank you all!!
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  11. mewmew... Gosho has NOTHING to do with any of the movies EVER! I shall stand by my assessment that 9-11 were all horrible, getting worse and worse as they continued. 7 and 8 were bad but still enjoyable (relatively). I'm putting them on the list just to state why I didn't like it. For those curious here are my reasoning for each movie and my hatred towards them. 7 - Simply put there was more talk about relationships than there was about the actual mystery. This would have been FINE if it was made by Gosho and was thus canon. Seeing as it wasn't it was tripe in my eyes. As I said though... It wasn't all bad, but I still didn't like it. 8 - Where was the mystery?! The actual mystery encompassed an entirety of about 30 minutes. The rest was action, and there was no mystery to whom Kaitou Kid was. This KILLED it for me. You want to make KK and Shinichi looking similar into a joke? Fine! But don't make it into a movie, it takes most of the fun out of KK's character! Use that in OVAs don't base movies off of it... Kid was enjoyable though in his character... But really it should have been done so much better.... 9 - I actually would have enjoyed this more if it wasn't so contrived and forced. I did like how Kogorou out did Conan... But still the negatives out weigh the positives... Like Kogorou's motivation... Conan's epic failure... And all the contrivances that drove the plot (though they were far worse in 14, to be discussed later) 10- Again... ACTION MOVIE! There was no mystery! And what they passed off as a mystery was SO FORCED it was painful. Not to mention the fact that every character appearance felt forced in and of themselves. There was NO NEED to put EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER into this movie. There were better ways to celebrate the 10th anniversary of anime than to do it this way. Also, Kaitou Kid's appearance was wasted. Though at least that was done better than movie 8. Though still the fact that there was no mystery and a forced plot make it one of the worst movies in my opinion. Though the Movie theme was good (I do love the B'z) 11 - I honestly have no idea what to say... PIRATES?! REALLY???? Where was the mystery? THERE WAS NONE! It was a movie about friendships if anything, but that doesn't belong in a movie where a mystery is expected. This was a treasure hunt movie. And honestly Conan... you need to leave that to Indiana Jones! (Worst Movie Ever in detective conan at least) 13 - What was the point of... what was it...? Irish?! Irish is Bourbon that was killed! I mean really... They used a macguffin too! several.... the chip and Irish figuring out his identity... I'm really against MacGuffins... Especially when they lead ABSOLUTELY NO WHERE! Oh right and this had possibly the most ridiculous scene EVER! Conan destroying a helicopter like that? Ran dodging a bullet? ARG! I want to see alternative scenes where the characters die when they do stupid things like that! 14 - Where to begin... First off the entire plot was based off of a MacGuffin and wasn't really a mystery... They made it into a mystery which in and of itself was ridiculous. Know what? the only good thing I can really say about this movie is Conan's defenestration scene. He totally deserved it too! I realize that I hate HALF of the movies... Wow... Btw, if I watched them recently I might be able to say more, but I refuse to watch them again.... Each of these movies were watched only once where as 3-6 were watched several times... 3-5 especially.
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  12. In order from worst to bearable 11 >>>>>>>>>> 10 >>>>> 9 >>>>>>>>>> 14 >>> 13 Basically... there was NOTHING good or compelling about 11. Absolutely nothing. I tried to think of something, but... nope... can't like it. Hell, it was so bad, I can't remember anything about it other than it was related to pirates... 10 could have been good if it didn't try so hard for the 10th anniversary and include all of the characters. It tried too hard and in doing so it lost a lot. Namely an actual mystery... (No really, the only mystery was why the hell if the guy knew everything already did he need to put the detectives through all of that? Couldn't he have just... you know... told them everything and shown them the evidence?... OH RIGHT! If they didn't do that there would have been no opportunity to hear about Kid... Damn movie...) 9 was just... I mean... I liked how Conan was FINALLY wrong for once and Kogorou finally got it right... but... wth? And that is where what I liked ends... everything else... I really didn't. But hey, at least there was something that I liked right? 14... I don't know what they were thinking with this one... I suppose they just wanted another generic Kid movie... There were actually THREE good things about this movie... 1) The defenestration of Conan (He had it coming) 2) The subsequent scenes with him and Kid especially when they were getting back on... (though using the whole Shinichi is identical to Kaitou thing will get real old real fast as a "disguise"... The next time I see it, it better involve Aoko and Ran in some sort of strange three way with Conan looking on laughing at Kid's predicament)3) The very end. You know what I'm talking about. It made me laugh. I just wonder... Does that mean Ran knows that Kid looks like Shinichi (at least in the movies)? 13... This is as high as it is because I love the BO, but in terms of making any sense it is pretty low. I know movie 12 has a horrible motive (then again we have seen plenty of those), and had some questionable plot devices, but at least it did something with them, and even had an awesome OST. Movie 13 on the other hand was working off of the BO, and they couldn't even get that right. I don't know how you could screw that up, but they did. And honestly, the scene with the helicopter was worse than the scene with the phone in M12 in terms of ridiculousness. I think that does it... 1-6 was the golden times for the movies after that it went all down hill. They became more like action movies than mysteries. Which is why I will always put m12 above the others, because it was an actual mystery.
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