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Hi! I drew Haibara in "gotich lolita" style :3 (You know it comes from the " The alibi of the black dress" case)i saw Haibara,and i was like:"Oh my god i need to draw this!!^^" So, Here it is: Deviantart: Here

Every scene where Conan saves Ayumi, gets kissed, or hugged by her or when Ayumi gets jealous. :3 Also when Mitsuhiko gets all embarrassed around Haibara! It's so freaking CUTE!!! I especially loved the scene in Phantom of Baker Street where Conan hands his jacket to Ayumi while Mitsuhiko gives his to Haibara. So... cute. =w= AND THEN every funny scene I love!

Yeah somewhat twins if azusa's hair are open.

He definitely does, the number one being that he doesn't talk about his suspicions or thoughts with people so that they go and ruin Conan's plans. See Agasa letting Vermouth and Jodie over after Conan forgot to mention Araide and Jodie were suspicious. Haibara always complains how Conan is strangling everyone around him with his secrecy, and she's got a point.But yeah, Conan is overpowered knowledge wise.

Go!ConxAi

Because they're better fit together than Ai and Conan are. :grin: But in all seriousness... AiCon wouldn't work out. Haibara and Conan would not be good together in my eyes. Just.... no. They don't share the same morals, first of all. Haibara, if a man walked into a bank in front of her, robbed it and killed somebody on the way out, would simply call the cops and play it safe. CONAN, however, would run RIGHT AFTER that penniless (or now that he robbed a bank very rich) murderer and knock him down. You see, Ayumi would do the same thing as Conan and follow him while Haibara would no. This makes Ayumi more compatible moral-wise than Haibara to him. Ayumi and Conan would raise a child to believe they should chase after that criminal. Haibara and Conan would raise that poor child to be confused and misguided. XD They wouldn't know WHAT to do or WHO to listen to if a somebody robbed a bank and killed someone in front of them. Listen to Mommy or listen to Daddy? Hmmm....? That would tear the poor little thing apart! (Unless, of course, he/she already HAS a favorite which would not be a good sign...). Likewise, Mitsuhiko would be on Haibara's side and their kid would be raised to lay back, call the cops, and hope for the best. This makes Mitsuhiko more compatible moral-wise for Haibara than Conan. Now to the second issue with AiCon- Conan would be reminded of being poisoned, shot, knocked out, the fear he felt and all the lies he had to give and all that he was forced to leave behind whenever he's with her. I don't think he'll ever be able to see her as a romantic partner when she, on some level, RUINED HIS LIFE. Ayumi, at least, resembles Ran in a very strong way such as her popularity, her morals, her looks, her fears, and her reactions. He would probably get more of a nostalgic feeling and not feel like he lost as much. He would still be reminded of it every once in a while, but Ayumi is not a PRIMARY SOURCE of his pain like Haibara is. Mitsuhiko, also, has NOTHING against Haibara and wouldn't have any problem seeing her as a romantic partner. Now, to the third point. Haibara ALSO has very little in common with Conan. Besides soccer and being shrunk and living in fear out of the same organization, they have NOTHING. Haibara, while once temporarily interested in detective work, ultimately chose science. Conan doesn't CARE for science although it is needed to be a detective. If he didn't need it to do his job he'd probably have no interest in it. Once they both got home neither would be all that interested in their work. MITSUHIKO, though, is a very smart boy and knows a LOT for his age. He seems to know plenty of scientific facts and often shows interest in things that would lead us to believe he'll be a scientist or something related in the future. Ayumi as well is interested in detective work so that gives you a clu as to future jobs she may take up. For all we could know Conan'll be a private detective and she'll be in Sato's spot. XD She has shown no real interest in him and he obviously has had no real interest in her so far. Haibara has been hinted to have feelings for Mitsuhiko. (I have already posted this ONCE in the AyuCon thread... now here. :grin: )

SO GLAD THAT KAITO KID IS NOT IN THIS

Well, They've got more in common with each other than they do Ayumi and Conan moral-wise, career-wise, and personality-wise so... screw the 10-year age difference! Who cares if a 30-year-old marries a 40-year-old? <3 :smile: And Haibara has actually shown signs of being interested in Mitsuhiko- and Conan has even TEASED her about her relationship with him before. :wink:

But there are a lot more similarities and clues in Subaru and Akai's case than there were for Jodie and Vermouth. It goes further than appearance and mysteriousness. Okiya and Akai share name puns, Black Org auras, and Conan's trust, and a bunch of other things I have listed. The differences can be explained by acting and habit change in order to disguise himself. What is important to note is that none of the differences are too extreme such that a dedicated Akai couldn't handle. Quit smoking, use nicotine patches for instance. Also, Akai has shown hand to hand skills- he was going to take out a busjacker before Conan got him. Also, Okiya hasn't had the opportunity to shoot, so it doesn't make sense to assume Okiya can't. I disagree. When has Akai been on a mission where disguise would have significantly helped? Most of the time, Akai simply appeared unexpectedly or stayed out of sight of the party he was tailing. On the bus jack case, the FBI weren't trying to capture Vermouth. The bus is a public location with lots of people around. They couldn't. What they were doing was looking for Shiho in order to protect her, which is why Akai mentions the target at the end of the case into his recording device. By the same token Vermouth couldn't attack Jodie. Also, the FBI didn't know Vermouth knew Jodie was an FBI agent. Even if Vermouth saw Akai on the bus, that doesn't make Jodie Akai's ally. The problem is Conan and Agasa haven't talked about the glasses and how they relate to the badges as far as we have seen anytime recently. Between Okiya's first appearance and the 252 rescue case where Okiya demonstrated his knowledge, I am pretty sure Conan hasn't used the tracking function of his glasses in any case in Beika (or even elsewhere anywhere possibly), nor have the detective boys used the badges for anything other than communication (unless I'm forgetting something they may not have used them at all until the 252 case ignoring the haunted warehouse where they were merely props). If they haven't been used recently, then why would anyone in Agasa's house need to talk a out loud about them? They already know how they work, and listening devices don't let you see how to use them properly, something which Subaru knew how to do. The mechanism to operate Conan's glasses isn't obvious, so only someone who knows about their existence beforehand could recognize the glasses at Agasa's and figure out how to activate the tracking function. Akai Shuuichi could have heard about the glasses in several ways. The first source is when James Black was kidnapped while he had Ayumi's detective badge. Conan used the badge to track down James Black. James was waiting to meet with Akai before he was kidnapped and drove away with Akai after he was rescued. Akai could have also heard about the tracking function from Jodie when Conan chased after Kir to prevent an assassination. Finally, Akai may also know about them from when Haibara borrowed the glasses to find Conan at the shipping yards in climax of the Vermouth arc. He was present at the time and would have seen Haibara wearing them even though she has never worn glasses when Akai had seen her previously.

I don't understand why being enemies means you would be more similar than you would be otherwise.================================================================== Version 1 Common Objections to Okiya being Akai and their rebuttals (1) Objections that Okiya is not Akai because... 1a. Akai is dead. 1b. Okiya is Bourbon. 1c. Okiya and Akai appeared at the same time so they can't be the same person. 1d. Scar Akai is the real Akai. 1e. Okiya is the shadow guy in glasses driving in files 417-419 so he can’t be Akai. (anime spoilers) 1f. What about Okiya being a brother of Akai or something like that? (2) Objections that Akai couldn't have the time to prepare the Okiya disguise and other logistics. Generally, the passage of time in DC is difficult to tell because of the floating timeline; it isn't clear how much time elapsed between Raiha pass and the Kuroshiro case where Okiya first appeared. In the Suspicious Eisuke case which occurred right before Okiya's introductory case, it was stated that Eisuke returned to school finally after being "absent for quite a while" according to Conan. (619 pg 3) Even then, how much time elapsed between "Suspicious Eisuke" and Okiya's introductory case? 2a. Now that Akai is cut off from the FBI, how could he have the resources and get his identity together as Okiya fast enough? (Like a buying a car and renting an apartment...) 2a1. Then who were these assistants? 2b. Akai couldn't have learned all the things Okiya knows fast enough 2c. If Okiya was Akai he couldn't have been at the apartments for long enough. 2c1. Okiya can't be Akai because the child Kaito from the Kuroshiro case had to have known him for a long time in order to observe him enough to invent a nickname for him. 2c2. Okiya couldn't have been there long enough because the garden looked too nice. 2d. It is too difficult to fake a job as a graduate student in engineering. (3) Objections regarding Akai's acting and disguising abilities or lack thereof 3a. Akai doesn't have any acting skills as far as we know. He couldn't do a good enough job to be Okiya. 3b. Akai has no experience with disguise. 3c. Akai can't disguise his voice. 3d. If Jodie wasn't able to recognize Okiya as Akai, then how did Ran? 3e. If Okiya is Akai, and Ran, after only seeing him three times, thinks he seems familiar, doesn't that mean Okiya's disguise is bad? If so, isn't he stupid for appearing around the Org or the FBI who might recognize them? 3f. If Okiya is Akai, why doesn't Akai behave more like himself when he is alone or only good guys are around? (4) Objections based on motives 4a. If Okiya is Akai and trying to keep his identity secret, why is he risking himself by staying close to Haibara and Conan and getting involved in situations where the FBI and the Black Org are present? 4a1. He doesn't seem to be protecting Haibara and Conan (anime spoilers) 4a2. He doesn't seem to be protecting the FBI 4b. If Akai is unwilling to face Haibara, why would he try to move in with her? 4c. If Okiya is Akai, why is he spying on Conan and Haibara? (5) Objections based on personality differences between Okiya and Akai 5a. Akai isn't the type of character who would disguise as a domestic and friendly person like Okiya. Their personalities are too different for them to be each other 5b. Okiya smiles more than Akai 5c. Conan acts differently around Okiya than when he was around Akai (6) Objections on physical differences between Okiya and Akai 6a. Okiya doesn't look like Akai 6a1. Then where did the line under his eyes go? 6a2. Then where cheekbones go? 6b. Okiya/Akai is ambidextrous unlike the other. 6c. Many of people look alike because of Gosho's art style. Also other characters like Gin are left handed. Okiya and Akai being alike is just a coincidence. (7) Objections based on behavioral differences 7a. Akai smokes, Okiya doesn’t. 7b. Okiya is a better detective than Akai (8) Objections based on quotes 8a. If Okiya is Akai, and he knows scar Akai is Bourbon, why would he say that Scar Akai wasn't who he thought he was? 8b. Okiya seems to be threatening Haibara during the Ikkaku rock case. (9) Objection based on literary devices 9a. Okiya is Akai is too easy; there has to be something more complicated. 9b. If Okiya is Akai, why is he is disguise all the time? Even Vermouth took off her disguises once in a while. 9c. Several times we get to eavesdrop on Okiya's thoughts. That only happens for characters not in disguise. 9d. There is a trick to the Char Aznable name: Char Aznable and Casval Rem Deikun used to be strangers, so this implies Okiya isn't Akai. (10) Miscellaneous 10a. Okiya can't be Akai because Okiya was the only one who could have informed the Black Organization that scar Akai was in the Beika Department Store. 10b. Why did Conan panic when he heard Ran was going to Shinichi's house? 10b1. Then why didn't Conan warn Subaru that Ran was coming? 10b2. The timing of Subaru getting that phone message doesn't make sense! 10b3. Why didn't Ran and Sonoko hear his phone if Conan contacted him first as they came in? Everything below this line is not finalized. They are in need of serious cleanup like proper grammar and such. Please don't quote them, they are only here to give you an idea of what will eventually be posted. ========================

I don't know what to say since everyone votes for that pairing... *cough* well, MitsuAi pairing (I can barely type it well). In the future? You meant when Haibara turns into 28 and Mitsuhiko 18 years old? Is that called 'cute couple'?

You know what, I changed my mind. I dislike this pairing more than ConAi, and that's quite the accomplishment. Just saying. Ayumi is way too annoying.

Conan is so cute every time he says that ..hahaa

It makes me laugh every time Conan says that line, and also when Kogoro tries to say it too. Haha