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I think you, me, and CC would all do the same. Politics and internet forums is bad. BTW, I would expect this thread to be locked by CC, since he shares this sentiment.

Agreed. Gosho has never been directly involved with the production of a movie, so I see no reason what so ever why he would end his series on his 20th year with something he has never had a part in. This is fake, probably fan speculation and speculation that I have actually heard before for M14. It wasn't true then, it isn't true now.

Alright you people are reading things that I never wrote... Don't know how or why. Also the princess bride is awesome. @detective, the Dr was a quick thing. I don't think I've ever called you that before. Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk

Lol, I never said all of them "they have made more than a few timeless classics and just other fantastic movies that may be a bit dated, but still get the message across in a meaningful and impactful way" So yeah, I'm well aware not all of them are timeless. They have made quite a few of them though, certainly enough for me to say that. Also I don't think Rear Window is that dated. Sure it doesn't have the same impact it did in the 50s, but the story is still strong and it is brilliantly told. People always push the boundaries of genres and try new things. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. However that doesn't detract from the story or prevent people from using the ideas first presented in the Rear Window. As for attention span, that is true... to a point. It depends on the audience. However, due to the large consensus it has become a film making practice to keep shots short in modern times. But there are still Avant Garde films that hold longer and try different things to screw with those perceptions that you speak of. And a lot of them are fantastic movies, if not for the story than the film practices employed. Both of those movies you chose are amazing. I haven't seen either in a long while. Metropolis especially I have fond memories of. However, after reading up on it, I could never stop wondering if we were actually seeing the complete movie or not. That is the shame about a lot of older movies, especially from the silent era, they were sometimes heavily edited. And a lot of those edits were lost to the sands of time possibly never to be seen again. It doesn't help exactly that the film used at that time was highly flammable.

Tells are how people write certain letters or the ordering of symbols. For instance... How someone writes the date can narrow down their country of origin. Usage of punctuation, and how the punctuations are written tell you often gender. Then you have angling and spacing that have been heavily analyzed that can tell you a few things. Then you have style of writing letters as well. The smallest of things can tell you a bit about a person.

I actually cannot think of anyone in Shawshank that didn't have an important role or message to convey, no matter how big or little their part was. Brooks was an especially impactful story because he was "institutionalized." That scene was amazing, but honestly one of the most moving scenes was the Motzart opera scene. That also highlighted one of the best underplayed messages of the film. While most people latch on to hope, or living life to the fullest, that scene and the subsequent scenes, is basically saying that freedom comes from within, and there are things that no one can take from you so long as your mind is in the right place. And it is one of the few scenes where you saw the background actors and extras show an insane amount of emotion with just a passing glance of a panning shot. I haven't checked out Network, but I have to say, that scene makes its own case for why I should watch it. I shall check it out as soon as I can. @DR: If we really wanted to we probably could list movies all day and night and never run out of good ones for a long time. There are so many amazing movies out there that I don't think we CAN list them all...

You obviously didn't watch the latter half of the movie then.... And that isn't action that is suspense and drama Really... finish it... It isn't perfect, but it is leagues better than 10, 11, 13 and 14.

So, this is basically coming from the M15 thread and a bit of debate over action vs story. Hollywood has been making videos for over a century now, and in that time they have made more than a few timeless classics and just other fantastic movies that may be a bit dated, but still get the message across in a meaningful and impactful way. Now the problem is that is ISN'T just Hollywood doing this, so it is unfair to limit this thread to the realm of American cinema, so we shall discuss all forms of great and classic cinema, be it from Europe, Asia, India... Doesn't matter. Now, "classic" in terms of cinema can be broken down into two main categories, and several sub categories (I won't get into the sub categories unless it comes up in the normal discourse). The main two are "Classic works of cinema" and "Modern Classics." Both have one big thing in common, which is that you can watch them time and time again and they don't get old, no matter when you watch them (in other words, if the movie came out in the 1960's, watching it in 2011 doesn't change your experience of the movie). The reason why I have to include both is because a lot of people don't consider movies that came out in the 90s and 2000s to be classics (hell people often extend that into the 80s too), but there ARE some. So lets get this started! I'd feel inclined to start with a nice easy one... The Shawshank Redemption. The story of an innocent man who is sent to prison for double murder, and his adventures in prison. Andy Dufresne (Tim Robbins), the title character, must make the best of his time in prison. It has more than a few powerful messages that it conveys masterfully. It is a fantastic movie, and one which I cannot recommend enough. Especially since it was made in 1994, it is fairly modern, though it is set in 1940s. Here is the theatrical trailer: "Get busy living, or get busy dying" Open spoiler for side notes

Anyone can do it. It isn't an exact science. All you need is to have the list of tells and the analysis of known things. All you need to do is take it one step at a time and you'll be surprised at what you come up with.

Basically the idea is that different people write inherently different. Some things are easy to tell, like which hand and level of grammatical prowess. But other things are harder. If the sample is big enough you can learn various things about the person. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphology You can probably only find basic things on line, unless you have access to the literature on studies of handwriting. But it would be interesting to see what the users here come up with.

You know what would make this thread really fun? If people looked up how to analyze handwriting samples and see what they could come up with.... I mean this is a site based around a detective manga after all. Might as well try to deduce something (I used to know how to do it btw, I probably still could if I could find my book on it...) Edit: A thought occurred to me... I might have a very strange idea of "fun" compared to everyone else here...

I never said m15 was good. But it certainly took a few steps in the right direction. In HP's defense, the books were better than the movies, but the books weren't masterpieces either. My statements were more in relation to the comment about the lack of action, as if action makes a movie better... (it doesn't) Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk

You are welcome I'm glad it is appreciated. If you have any questions about the major or areas of forensic science I'll answer those through PM, because it has more to do with the education of Forensic Science than the actual field.

To reiterate what you said... we are in the minority. I grew up on quite frankly action light movies, you know horrible actionless movies like Casablanca, Citizen Kane, Shawshank Redemption, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and To Kill A Mockingbird. Not to mention the various Sherlock Holmes series and movies. The lack of action really killed those movies, all they had was drama, suspense and were really boring... </sarcasm> Really though... action doesn't make a movie good or exciting. A good, engaging story should be all that is needed. Throw in some suspense, nicely placed and written drama with great atmosphere, and you have yourself an amazing movie that will stand the test of time.

I agree. I watch Detective Conan for.... you know... mystery... (This is still a mystery show right?) The mysteries is what makes it interesting, not the action.