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File 834-840: Vampire's Mansion (NO SPOILER)

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834 English is out ! This case seems interesting !

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No one posting here!?! well 834's out, vampire's rage is still on. You know, Twilight, The Gate, Interview with vampire... I enjoy interview with vampire, I think I like this case. Conan never freak out and it sort of give strangers and Kogoro benefit of doubt. DB will scream by sight and news, but I'm glad they're not involved cos stranger believe Conan is a strange kid. Or Heiji and adults there had convinced strangers Conan need them beside. This is not really spoiler, if 834's out and with no explanation about Conan's appearance, along lack of comment, I can assume they talk to client over this part as missing scene.

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835 English is out ! Well, there aren't much to discuss at the moment though...

For the optical illusion, I think that it has something to do with the mirror and not the camera, because Ran and Kazuha saw him with their naked eyes (not through the camera).

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835 English is out ! Well, there aren't much to discuss at the moment though...

For the optical illusion, I think that it has something to do with the mirror and not the camera, because Ran and Kazuha saw him with their naked eyes (not through the camera).

It could easily be a two way mirror, and it would be hard to tell it was when the room is bright and the space behind dark. The space behind the mirror where the body was propped up could be lit up at the correct time so the man's face is visible.

I definitely think this is going to be a trick house type mystery. Conan and Heiji are already getting vibes from one of the rooms, and we have a space behind a mirror, and a fridge that won't open. I'm guessing the dead guy planned to scare everyone, but someone killed him and decided to use all his tricks against the other family members. The reason I think so is because the dead guy seems to have bought all of the strange equipment that will be needed for the tricks.

The coffin trick may be the same one as some of the escape from the boxes tricks magicians use. I'll do some research to try to confirm it.

For now, looking at which suspect is in the best manipulator position seems like a good idea.

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I read the chapter then immediately decided I was too lazy to try to plot out the family dynamics. I just can't get motivated about this case. It's not a bad case, but it is so badly placed after the excitement of the train that it feels like filler while we are waiting for the second round of Sera, Okiya, Amuro stuff to resolve the leftover plot threads.

The butler knows quite a bit of information about vampires and the family dynamics which surprised me a little. He did summon Kogoro to the house which implies he is less suspicious than the others, but it wouldn't be the first time someone thought they could play a trick in front of the Sleeping Detective. I am not sure how trustworthy he is.

Maybe the maid is there to investigate her mother's death? It also seems like the maid was being set up based on how she was kept around and asked to be places by the master of the house, Hakuya, but I am not sure of the status of that plan with Hakuya being dead and all. At the end, the maid was rather creepy, but I doubt she is going to jump on the girls or something like that. The maid attacking Ran and Kazuha would not be very planned and out of character with the rest of the crimes, and Gosho wouldn't show the lurking maid's identity if it was anything serious. I could be wrong though, and kind of hope so because it would be rather different to have someone go unhinged out of fear.

The missing Hakuya seems to have set up all these tricks because his behavior indicated he knew about them and was testing them. As he seems rather dead now, someone else took advantage of them suggesting Hakuya has a co-conspirator or one of his relatives/staff found out the plan in advance.

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File 838 English is out ! Check out to see what's wrong with the maid... rolleyes.gif

I really should have remembered she was hungry. I am kind of ashamed for missing that. Now that it is the weekend and I looked more seriously at the files, I have a hunch who the other criminal accomplice is. The coffin trick would require someone to move the body out of the bottom of it meaning they couldn't run up and appear promptly when the girls screamed, but I want to go back first and give the files a better read before making a deduction. I have messed up too often recently to do a shoddy job this time.

I was expecting something a bit grander from the fridge... What am I overlooking?

Also really nice edit on the Drill Page btw.

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