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    Discussion Thread about Rum

    My Theory : 1. RUM Involved in the death of Amanda Hughes (Main Target) and Haneda Kohji. << RUM Involvement 2. Asaka (The Bodyguard) last seen is holding the Mascara Mirror brand that written "Put On Mascara", Asaka is Woman. << Who is Asaka 3. It seems Asaka or Haneda Kohji or Both of them is the one who left dying message, the evidence say that Haneda Kohji's palm is injured due holding scissors. << Fact of Dying Message 4. RUM Didn't know what's his mistake on that Mission as Black Organization member. So RUM try to upload this case to internet to figure it out too, maybe he got some clue, and it comes to Conan and Akai who got the same case just like 17 years ago. << RUM's secondary mission 5. Dying message is not appoint that Asaka is Rum, but it refer to Carasuma Group. << Yusaku Kudo theory 6. 3 Peoples appear after Kir text, A. Hyoue Kuroda, B. Wakasa Rumi, and the C. Wakita Kanenori. << Timeline Fact 7. Black Organization also have NOC lists that infiltrate security bureau or government. << Based on Movie 13 (Irish's Mission) Possibility Based on Suspicion Link : Hyoue Kuroda 55%, Wakasa Rumi 60%, Wakita Kanenori 45% If next chapter explain relationship clue why Wakasa Rumi regretting Haneda Kohji's death, the suspicion to Wakasa Rumi would be vanish.
  2. Let me Introduce myself as new member (i just know this page lol), i am DC fan since kid, my bod also same as kudo/conan. This is only my Opinion about what happen on that night (Kohji and Amanda case), rum, and his move. Recently i see a new hint on manga that wakasa shows her memory about the past. *ps sorry for bad english [1] First is, Amanda Hughes. She was a wealthy and had some influence to FBI/CIA as haibara said. As she have influence to FBI/CIA, she must be trust her life to her bodyguard. As a bodyguard, he/she (Asaka) must be tough/skilled as fighter (Fist and Gun). Night before she died, she had afternoon tea with Haneda Kohji, of course in Kohji's room. Amanda room is clean when she found died, different from Kohji Room. Most likely she killed by the Organization. As you know, when they both died, something is left in Kohji's room, The Mascara Mirror has be the one as Evidence "Dying Message" PTON => UMASCARA. You have to remember in the episodes that Haibara's parent said that they both invited on to CARASUMA group as scientist to do some mad project but Atsushi Miyano refused it sice that group had some bad rumours (Manga 1011). At the end, they both agree to join them since Elena Miyano had Pregnancy. At this situation, i think that UMASCARA wasn't dying message to RUM Codename, but it was an Organization/Group Carasuma that responsible to their death. *CARASUMA mentioned as (Carasu means crow/raven in japanese) Crow logo/emblem. [2] Why did the Mascara Mirror in kohji's room? Haneda Kohji's look like is not using mascara. Mascara mentioned in the Mall when conan sees Haibara using some mascara and look like the little girl he found in Sera Masumi's room. So, i describe mascara is the black stripe below the eyes. Compare their eyes (Akai's, Sera's, Marry's and Haneda Kohji's). I Assume the mascara is not belong to Haneda Kohji. It belongs to Amanda Hughes. Why the mascara in Kohji's room? The one who hold that mirror is ASAKA the bodyguard. In that case i have 3 conclusion that, Haneda Kohji witnessing some people he recognize from CARASUMA Group do the Assasination of Amanda Hughes by Black Organization so he left dying message (He hold the scissors) then killed by aptx4869, or Amanda ask ASAKA to left her dying message, ASAKA recognize the killer from CARASUMA Group and left dying message in Kohji's room (Fight and Making Haneda Kohji unconscious), organization realized the mess so they kill Haneda Kohji using aptx4869, or woman bodygoard ASAKA is really bad guy codename RUM and do kill Amanda Hughes cleanly + eliminate Haneda Kohji as eyewitness (Just like Shrinking Shinichi Kudo). But my last conclusion can be busted if Wakasa Rumi is Asaka and Have relationship to Haneda Kohji and Amanda Hughes. [3] It seems Black organization might be hunt the bodyguard called asaka. It seems possible because he/she also missing after the incident. Why so? I dont know the reason. But in this timeline, Tsutomu Akai who investigate this case also went missing (Potentially : Dead), Black organization also try to eliminate close relation person like Mary (Thats why her body shrunk as well). Maybe Tsutomu Akai found some clue and chasing Black Organization (Based on His text to His wife, Mary), also protect the bodyguard using witness protection program. If Asaka is really a bad guy from Organization, Asaka must be special agent codename RUM. As GIN mentioned in black porsche 365A that he really dont care about RUM's MISTAKE (RUM Involved in that case), but i dont think ASAKA the Bodyguard is a bad guy. The fact what eyewitness (Someone who asked by Mr Kokuri) said is, The bodyguard called ASAKA is woman and she is the one who held the mascara mirror (Based on Anime 864 ending). Its really a clue that the only woman in rum arc suspect is Wakasa Rumi. Is that she was the Amanda's bodyguard 17 years ago?? [4] Wakasa Rumi's memory regretting about Haneda Kohji's death. Why? If she really a bad people, she dont have any reason to regretting someone she killed. or else She might have relation to Haneda Kohji/Amanda Hughes (Since they both a Pro Shogi Player and a Fans).What is her relationship then? She also have a talk to haneda. Girlfriend maybe? She also have Shogi Pawns and hate the way he (Kohji) choose to die. I dont have any clue for this until next episode, but i assume that Wakasa Rumi is the KEY of 17 years ago case. ** Waiting the Mystery of Scootch's Phone Revealed Waiting the Conan & Mary First Meet and Talk Waiting the Offer from Yusaku, Yukiko, Akai to Bourbon
  3. Let me Introduce myself as new member (i just know this page lol), i am DC fan since kid, my bod also same as kudo/conan. This is only my Opinion about what happen on that night (Kohji and Amanda case), rum, and his move. Recently i see a new hint on manga that wakasa shows her memory about the past. *ps sorry for bad english [1] First is, Amanda Hughes. She was a wealthy and had some influence to FBI/CIA as haibara said. As she have influence to FBI/CIA, she must be trust her life to her bodyguard. As a bodyguard, he/she (Asaka) must be tough/skilled as fighter (Fist and Gun). Night before she died, she had afternoon tea with Haneda Kohji, of course in Kohji's room. Amanda room is clean when she found died, diffrent from Kohji Room. Most likely she killed by the Organization. As you know, when they both died, something is left in Kohji's room, The Mascara Mirror has be the one as Evidence "Dying Message" PTON => UMASCARA. You have to remember in the episodes that Haibara's parent said that they both invited on to CARASUMA group as scientist to do some mad project but Atsushi Miyano refused it sice that group had some bad rumours (Manga 1011). At the end, they both agree to join them since Elena Miyano had Pregnancy. At this situation, i think that UMASCARA wasn't dying message to RUM Codename, but it was an Organization/Group Carasuma that responsible to their death. *CARASUMA mentioned as (Carasu means crow/raven in japanese) Crow logo/emblem. [2] Why did the Mascara Mirror in kohji's room? Haneda Kohji's look like is not using mascara. Mascara mentioned in the Mall when conan sees Haibara using some mascara and look like the little girl he found in Sera Masumi's room. So, i describe mascara is the black stripe below the eyes. Compare their eyes (Akai's, Sera's, Marry's and Haneda Kohji's). I Assume the mascara is not belong to Haneda Kohji. It belongs to Amanda Hughes. Why the mascara in Kohji's room? The one who hold that mirror is ASAKA the bodyguard. In that case i have 3 conclusion that, Haneda Kohji witnessing some people he recognize from CARASUMA Group do the Assasination of Amanda Hughes by Black Organization so he left dying message (He hold the scissors) then killed by aptx4869, or Amanda ask ASAKA to left her dying message, ASAKA recognize the killer from CARASUMA Group and left dying message in Kohji's room (Fight and Making Haneda Kohji unconscious), organization realized the mess so they kill Haneda Kohji using aptx4869, or woman bodygoard ASAKA is really bad guy codename RUM and do kill Amanda Hughes cleanly + eliminate Haneda Kohji as eyewitness (Just like Shrinking Shinichi Kudo). But my last conclusion can be busted if Wakasa Rumi is Asaka and Have relationship to Haneda Kohji and Amanda Hughes. [3] It seems Black organization might be hunt the bodyguard called asaka. It seems possible because he/she also missing after the incident. Why so? I dont know the reason. But in this timeline, Tsutomu Akai who investigate this case also went missing. Maybe Tsutomu Akai found some clue and chasing Black Organization (Based on His text to His wife, Mary), also protect the bodyguard using witness protection program. If Asaka is really a bad guy from Organization, Asaka must be special agent codename RUM. As GIN mentioned in black porsche 365A that he really dont care about RUM's MISTAKE (RUM Involved in that case), but i dont think ASAKA the Bodyguard is a bad guy. The fact what eyewitness (Someone who asked by Mr Kokuri) said is, The bodyguard called ASAKA is woman and she is the one who held the mascara mirror (Based on Anime 864 ending). Its really a clue that the only woman in rum arc suspect is Wakasa Rumi. Is that she was the Amanda's bodyguard 17 years ago?? [4] Wakasa Rumi's memory regretting about Haneda Kohji's death. Why? If she really a bad people, she dont have any reason to regretting someone she killed. or else She might have relation to Haneda Kohji/Amanda Hughes (Since they both a Pro Shogi Player and a Fans).What is her relationship then? It seems she also talk to haneda. Girlfriend maybe? She also have Shogi Pawns and hate the way he (Kohji) choose to die. I dont have and clue for this until next episode, but i assume that Wakasa Rumi is the KEY of 17 years ago case.