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Ran, no competition. She's just a high school girl having a fell in love on a famous high school detective who happens to be her childhood friend. When a girl spends too much time with a cool, famous male, it happens. She doesn't own him, and face the fact: They have zero chemistry. She cries a lot, just because her (supposedly) one-sided childhood friend crush is off to do his job (or so she thinks), and his job happens ti have its dangers. He came back and calls occasionally. If you're asking for more that's called selfish. He has no obligation to call and meet you. I believe I have posted the rest of my opinion about her and ShinRan somewhere else, and I don't want to repeat them again. As you can see, I despise angelic characters who are filled with jealousy to the max. And Ran happens to be a damsel in distress and has a black belt in karate. I don't know much about MAs, but I know that professionals are expected to be calmer than 'normal people'. Not crying and lacking trust in her friends (to make it clear, what I mean by this is how she didn't trust Shinichi enough to take care of himself. Not that I blame her, but surely, Shinichi has a way to handle bad guys one way or another. Like this unearthly soccer, for one). To prevent unecessary flame, I'll add something: Ran is sweet, I'll admit that. I'd be heads over heels on her if such person exist. But problem is, she's an anime character. There are thousands of possibility where she could be unique. And frankly, she's a definition for cliché and lacks depth, especially as a reoccuring protagonist. Point is: ShinRan isn't happening.

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I started watching as a little kid, and was actually scared of Case Closed. This is back when it was airing on adult swim, and I was still in elementary school. It was soo scary! (Only because there were dead people, and i'd wake up in the middle of the night and it was what was on) Then in Junior High I got into death note, looked for similar themed shows, Detective Conan came up. I realized it was 'case closed' and decided to start watching the japanese show. (the real one ya?) I got a good 300 episodes in by high school, but only watched periodically. Yet my entire life was changed because of it, I went from a Ninja loving Elementary school kid, to a Detective Loving Junior High Kid, and then in highschool I tried to blend my love of both, as a Gamer. Now, right before graduation I realized that I was missing .. something. Something about who I was, was just off. That's when I realized I hadn't watched detective conan in an entire YEAR! and hadn't watched it very actively during highschool at all. I was becoming more.. Normal. God forbid. So i've decided to get myself back into my intellectual mind before jumping into college, so i'm going to binge read through the detective conan manga, while watching kindaichi, and then play the crossover game! Exciting! (off topic, but i'll also replay the ace attorney games and layton games) I feel like that will overall bring me back into the proper mindset. Then I can also start following the latest episodes on crunchyroll! Hobbies: Competitive Smash, Competitive Go/Chess, Competitive TCG's, Individual Video Games and Lots of Anime. Detective conan changed my life, going back and hoping it will do the same again.

Hahah you definitely belong here. Detective Conan changed my life too. Welcome to DCW :3

Yes, but in Agatha Christie's detective stories the murderers aren't like in DC at all. At least, I never had any impulse to sympathize with any of them, they usually are just plain evil like the victims in DC, except "Murder in the Orient Express". In Erle Stanley Gardner's books the murderers often are former accomplices of the victims. Well, that's the matter of opinion. I don't think so. I am too sorry for the the suicides to be able to justify the ambitious individuals who drive them to it. Thanks for explaining about the quote, that has been quite a puzzle for me for some time

AndrewA, I am not talking about psycho killers. I am talking about Gosho very rarely using killers who are at the same time sane and cold-blooded and without scruples, who kill for power or profit. Contract killings, robbery killings, murders for inheritance etc. It's true not all victims have committed crimes, but for example forcing someone to suicide isn't really murder, but morally it's no less heinous. At least, for me forcing an innocent to suicide is worse than killing a serial killer. Somebody can well not be a criminal, but still be at the same level from the moral point of view. And I agree with you if Conan REALLY does lecture them to try to reform them. I would like to hope it's so, but I always get the impression that the only thing he thinks about is punishment. P.S. By the way, how you do multi-quote? On my computer it doesn't work, when I press multi-quote and mark a sentence, it quotes the whole post, not just this sentence.

I think he should at least stop giving them lectures and say that he is sad for what happened to them or their relatives. He could even visit some of them in prison (I know it's not his duty, but I surely would have done that) and assure them they won't be discarded like trash by the society AFTER they have done their time. He could have publicly said the victims were more guilty or at least not less guilty from the moral point of view than the "avengers". All of this WOULDN'T have meant as if he was justifying them, it would just make him more human and less droid-like. As for Gosho, I know he said he doesn't want people to think murder is acceptable, but then why does he do exactly the contrary by always presenting murderers as rather sympathetic and the victims as the scum of the earth? Doesn't that make it more difficult to see everything in black and white? But I agree with you this kind of murderers should be brought to justice for THEIR OWN good. Good of society has nothing to do with that, they don't hurt society as they kill only people who DO hurt society. Again, I am not saying this to justify them.

I am not talking about "using it as an excuse" for murder. I am simply saying that in my opinion not feeling sorry makes him a worse person. Feeling sorry for this kind of killer isn't the same as justifying what they did. I think the author made much to show that the situations aren't black and white, that if somebody deserves the title of "monsters", it's the victims in first place. I am not forcing my opinion on you, but I am genuinely saddened and depressed some people don't feel sorry for somebody, murderer or not, whose life is ruined and who has suffered without deserving it before becoming a murderer.

Still, not feeling compassion is a horrible thing in my opinion. He sends them to jail, but jail doesn't solve every problem. If creatures like the "victims" aren't prosecuted, the revenge killings will never end, and Conan never pays much attention to those characters until they are killed. How can somebody be cold and indifferent when he has a person in front of him who genuinely cry, and still be able to have positive feelings like love for Ran or his parents is a weird and warped combination in my opinion.