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    1 hour ago, AnimeOtakuDrew said:

    Right, Haibara was unaware of the effect the Baigar would have prior to that case. And I also believe that you are right about her basing her own research on that of her parents. Therefore, is it not possible that she was instructed to include a certain part of the previous research without explaining why (after all, the Baigar was supposed to be a SECRET antidote, and I can easily imagine the Black Organizatioin giving orders without explanations)? And, isn't it also possible that the theoretical base component that reacts to the Baigar was also stored elsewhere and thus escaped the fire that destroyed the rest of the research? After all, as you said, she "started it ALMOST from scratch." If a base component like I've described was developed first and then all of the research stemmed from that, those initial findings would naturally have already been turned in by whatever previous scientist created it, meaning Sherry could have gone to whoever was her direct superior following the lab fire to get that original formula to resume her research. Or, she might have kept a copy of the original formula in her own separate records, along with any particularly promising developments she might have made during her own research, then used that to restart the research following the fire. There are all sorts of ways it could work out for such a compound to be built into the formula for APTX-4869 without Sherry knowing about it, and just as many ways for the Organization to make sure she included the compound in her continuing research. I just think it kind of fits, and it would explain a lot.

    She was a prodigy in biochemistry and had graduated by 10 if my memory serves me right. This indicates that she not being able to understand something in her own field would be improbable. Further she based her research on her parents research which would mean she had to understand it well enough to do anything. 

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    But wasn't Haibara unaware of the effects of the Chinese alcohol till the pisco case? This coupled with the fact that Haibara based this project on her parents research and started it almost from the scratch because of some lab fire means that alcohol being a temporary antidote to the drug was unintended. 

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    1 hour ago, Chekhov MacGuffin said:

    Nope, I am not contradicting myself. Shinan-Kudogawa claimed the boss was going to be a business leader effectively because that's what stereotypical evil organization leaders do and the boss needs the cash. I was casting doubt on the validity of that pidgeonholing entirely independently of claiming the boss was de-aged.

    That's a guess, and there is still no evidence. I agree the boss and Vermouth are probably meeting, but Vermouth might only get to see the boss because she is the boss's favorite, and maybe everyone else like Gin deals with Rum.

    Because it is a general premise of the manga: Agasa said it at first, and then Haibara who had some actual authority came along and confirmed it: the organization values secrecy over research. "If I reported your condition to the organization, it's very likely you would have been terminated before I could do something useful." Haibara explains that Kudo would have been killed by the Black Organization anyway even though he was an "interesting specimen." She then reiterated that recently by saying Kuroda would have certainly attacked after seeing her face if he was Rum.

    Making a bloody splash among detectives and police wouldn't stop them either. In Kir's intro, Gin, with the boss's approval, was 100% willing to put Mouri down in his office on a moment's notice and then go through everyone around him until they dug out everyone who might know about the Org or where Sherry is. It was only the intervention of Akai Shuuichi AND Vermouth pleading that she needed Kogoro for reasons she doesn't want to go into that got Gin to back down... yet even now he still holds a grudge against Kogoro and wants him gone. Conan thought of handing over the Nanatsu no Ko phone number to Takagi for tracing, but Ai axed that idea saying the BO would find out,Takagi would be murdered, and then it would get ugly as the BO tried to find out where the number leaked from.

    Basically, as Vermouth put it, the only way to keep her angels safe is to keep them out of the world of the Black Organization, which means not telling anybody. Conan is pretty desperate to involve himself, and Vermouth couldn't stop Conan when she enacted an elaborate plan to separate Ai from him, so she has given up there. Vermouth got Bourbon to agree to not harming them, and maybe not so coincidentally, she picked Amuro probably because she somehow knew he would abide by that promise being the kind of person he is...

    Welcome to DC!The reason I knew you were new btw had nothing to do with questioning this, but because your theories suggest you haven't yet been burned by the no-one-communicates-with-each-another principle before: http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/User:Chekhov_MacGuffin/Recurring_Tropes#Lack_of_information_sharing

    Thanks for the explanation.  That article was really helpful. 

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    14 hours ago, Chekhov MacGuffin said:

    I wish we had html view once again so I could quote by pieces.

    >However it is safe to assume that Anokata in appearance is an old Japanese man with a wealthy company as a front, due to the fact that if he was deaged or stayed young in any way he wuld be aware of the deaging effects and would have no reason not to tell Gin his loyal agent to look for a child Sherry.

    I don't think this is a safe assumption in the slightest because it assumes that A) The boss is a communicative person willing to reveal himself to Gin if he had such aging problems. B] Gin has even met the boss in person C) Gin knows this is the same boss as always despite your assumption that Gin only joined halfway through the Organization's existance.

    Gin saw Vermouth's true face in the Halloween case and yet has not drawn any conclusions about de-aging. That strongly suggests he isn't playing with the full deck of information about the Organization and its history.

    Your assumption that that the boss is some business leader instead of a math professor, or a law enforcement agent, or a scientist, or a retiree, or a corner grocer is based more on character stereotypes than information.

     

    1)I think you are contradicting yourself. If deaging did occur then most jobs would be very difficult to manage.Sharon Vineyard was able to get away with it because of very clever use of disguises. So either he is somebody with a lot  money and somebody is acting as a front for him or no deaging has occurred at all. I don't think you deal with math teachers who has taught two generations of students without ageing. tThe lsame logic can be generalised for most professions. Therefore being a chronologically old man with a lot of money is the only possibility(I am assuming Gosho would not throw in something like a board directing the organisation and anokata only represents the boards' will in which case there is almost nothing to go on) if we were to assume he is a deaged person. If not then also the most probable profession of the boss would be that of an old businessman because of the reasons mentioned by the creator of the thread. Of course if we were to believe that there have been more than bosses then the board theory would gain support because there has to be some appointing body.

     

    2)at the end of the off season valentines party case vermouth got a mail from the boss calling her back to his  side. From this i think it is safe to assume that vermouth has met the boss. Assuming that vermouth and gin are equally ranked it is quite possible gin has met the boss.

     

    3) I had a question. I am fairly new to DC which perhaps would be evident from what I have wriiten above. Why do you people always assume that vermouth has hidden the identity of Conan Edogawa. He is a child in his current form, has almost no leads to go on and perhaps because of his association with kogorou mouri and so many police officers eliminating him and perhaps even mouri would not be very safe because if it is a detective they are dealing with he perhaps would have already designed someway to transmit his investigation to his trusted people(in this case they are dangerous because the list includes heiji hattori who's father is a police chief and a person who is the mycroft equivalent to shinichi yusaku kudo) in which case killing a silver bullet may lead to the production of three more silver bullets. This theory also holds ground because yusaku does not frequent Japan that often even after the shrinking of his son and you don't want to eliminate a great detective to get the best against you right? Further the reason why the boss hasn't asked vermouth to reveal this to the organisation is because he knows gin well. We saw in that Valentine's Day case that gin ordered vodka to not hold back even against vermouth which mean he takes charge in a lot of situations. Thus in accordance with the cautious behaviour of the boss it is his best alternative to keep shinichi alive in my opinion.

     

    PS: I apologise in advance for any grammatical or plot related error I made in the above banter.

     

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    6 hours ago, Neo Balthazar said:

    Thats it. They are going for the nostalgia of both DB and DBZ, mixing them together and the result is not the same. The characters are out of character. Im not making stuff up when i say that GT is 4 times better (imo)

    Does anyone know how long this thing will be. It is popular, i think, for it to last a good while. 

    Im sure they will make a earh world tour at some point. Some time a magic being will pop. Someone will experiment with science again.

    It will be interesting to see the dub version.  Whoever does it.

    Funimation has started dubbing dbs 

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