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I think if there's anything really to object to regarding your stance and it's not just you in particular, it's pretty much overlooking any positives to Ran while just focusing on the negatives. As Ayuna points out for example, if there's anything big that Ran and Shinichi can agree on, it's that all life is sacred even if the person is either a criminal or the person is one you don't know. Haibara herself is unquestionably a good person and is willing to put herself at great risk to save her loved ones (compromising her secret by taking a temporarily antidote to save the Detective Boy for example). But it arguably takes a lot more sense of courage and justice to stick your neck out for someone you could careless about. Though I will say that I don't think it would be impossible for Haibara to grow beyond said aspect if given the chance. I mean just because I don't support a pairing or lack an interest in it, doesn't mean that I agree with dismissing the potential love interest as a character or ignoring their merits. And again regarding her capabilities, I point to the Desperate Revival, which despite her slip ups, she held on to her suspicion for a long time unless the previous two and fourth suspicion arc. That's 92 episodes (9/10 manga volumes with 112 chapter) that Ran managed to avoid tipping off Conan. Plus, when Conan is recovering from being shot, we see him even recalling an example of overlooking Ran's suspicion as demonstrated in Episode 174: The Twenty Year Old Murderous Intent: The Symphony Serial Murder Case, or Volume 23 (File 229: This is the Truth). Not to mention that when it comes to all suspicion arcs, it's only the when you drops the subtly that Conan even catches onto her, demonstrating that she can fool even someone with a higher than normal intellect. Much like any other times Conan does stumble onto her suspicion, it's only because he has talented allies to help him with providing evidence that he and Shinichi are two different people. Considering how Ran did manage to conceal her suspicion until that arc without any help, imagine how well she could perform if given that level of trust and support. Bottomline overall, if you support Conan/Ai, Shinichi/Shiho or whatever, cool. Though if you believe your pairing of choice is more substantial, I'd think you should be able to demonstrate confidence in your opinion without cutting down Ran's merits in the process. Afterall, one who believes their stance to be valid shouldn't have to fear or hide from the (inconvenient) truth. Kind of like how I used the Desperate Revival to demonstrate that Ran does have potential for example to help keep the secret until the end, even though others could use it as a counter argument. The episode at first glance would suggest she's unable to keep the secret, yet I feel the details (referring to above) once you look closely speaks stronger that the slip ups. At the very least though, we should be able to agree that he's not worthy of either until he can be more honest and less egotistical:-). Right?

What do you think the show is really missing in terms if the actual plot? I personally believe the show lacks a presence of true evil. The org is built up as this huge crime syndicate, but we don't really see how bad they can be. I also hate the fact that we haven't had flashbacks to Haibara's childhood. Her background is so rich with possible twists that her story pretty much writes itself. What do you guys think?

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Woah,take it easy there,You sound a bit too emotional...relax,chill bro,this is just for fun...My apologies if my opinion annoys you.... Firstly, I never said that writers are perfect, no one is, I just said that writers write what they think are right, for example, I write what I think is right, and so do you, we both give our opinions that we think we are right only to be proved wrong the next second...We,the readers,can grumble all we want but it's all in the writer's hand, that was my point,sorry if I didn't make myself clear... Next, about your opinion,it's not wrong,not at all...You have your own point of view,lovers should help each other overcome their flaws,it's a beautiful one but I, too have my OWN point of view, I would appreciate if you respect it. Yes, I do agree that they should help each other on that matter, but they should also consider other's feelings as well...Haibara is just too blunt and sarcastic.While being straightforward is nice and helpful, sarcastic is the opposite. It might hurt others... True, that lover should point out each other's flaws, at the same time, they should also give space for a change... Ran and Shinichi had known each other for 10 years, in dc's timeline, surely they have seen flaws in the other, don't you think? Do you think that the so-called 'dark side' can be kept for 10 years but not for a year or two? (the timeline is really confusing) But it's obvious that Ran knew him longer.... Anyway, all of us watched dc for 20 years,at least the episodes worth of 2 decades and we haven't really found his 'dark' side if you mean his recklessness,he has always been like that and survived without Haibara....I know that's the point you're trying to make, that he might not in the future, but what change will it make? Haibara's there, yet he still acted against her, still went into a showdown with BO, If Ran knew about this, she would, of course, try to stop him, given the danger, if he still stubborn,she would do the same like Haibara did in the Vermouth arc...I really can't see how she can 'humble' him any better than Ran...He's just that arrogant *ARGH! why is he so charming?faints, again* Ignore the line,really... P.s: I'm sorry if my reply is offending or emotional, but I'm cool(the line before this for example hihi) and it's just my style of debate...

I don't know when Kazuha gets in the picture but yeah, she share the same personality with Ran...Is it related?Never mind,even though I know Haibara will be a great partner in his work, scientist and detective share the same principle after all, and everything you said, plus if we compare, Haibara will be a better partner for Shinichi because of her sharp intellect than Ran, I just can't see them as a couple. Both of them are egoist, and gosh, I can't imagine if they have a fight as couple...and how long it will last, Meanwhile, Ran & Shinichi's longest fight is a week,only a week and the whole week Shinichi doesn't even realize he's in a fight because he got hooked up with a case in an OVA,a case of Shinichi back in middle school, but as soon as he aware(sorry for my vocabulary) they immediately make up just because of a song,how cute that is...I know that OVAs aren't canon but I'm just giving an example so it doesn't really matter,if it is for you then you can simply toss it away hihi And I have to disagree with you that they don't see each other's flaws,because they have made many comments on each other's flaws throughout the series,for example, Shinichi has commented on how Ran uses her karate to get whatever she wants,and Ran did it too many times I'm sure you have noticed, but they just accept it and even love it, that's what true relationship needs...Not hating every single flaws you have,tolerance is a key to a long-lasting relationship without a doubt...And if you love someone with all your heart,you have to accept them for who they are, not only just the perfect side.. Lastly, I can't see the chemistry that you said in ConAi like I do in ShinRan, ConAi can be a great partner and all,but not as lovers,in my view that is...they differ too much while having many similarities,its just so damn weird for me...and I don't think that Shinichi will ever change his heart,ever...And you can't do anything about a writer's choice because we write what we think are right, yes we, because I'm a soon-to-be a novelist,a romance novelist,that's why this topic interest me so very much hihi And of course,same goes to the Vermouth arc.The way you say it made me think too, maybe Ran was stalking her and when she saw Conan as Ai entering her car,she got suspicious?Wait,another thing, Ran can't humble him?Okay, first of all, his arrogant personality and way-too-handsome-figure for a man, Ouch! ,is the thing that made ME fall for him hihi,ok let's get back to the topic, hm..I think if anyone can 'tame' him, it should be Ran, since she have his heart and while willing to do whatever he says, she still can make him surrender too, besides, I don't think he have to be any humble,that's his significant personality, *ARGH! freaking out! 'Fangirl'ing overload,faints* Ignore the last line...

Hm...Firstly,I'm gonna apologize if I said/typed something wrong, Please do fix any inconsistency I'm in a bad mood so sorry if I'm rude but seriously why is Ran saving Ai is confusing? And why on earth are you doubting about her sense of justice? She has way more sense of justice than Haibara, who seems to be so selfish,she only cares for the people she knows and love, while Ran would happily do that for anyone...protecting,I mean...Sorry I can't give any example here since I'm too tired to think right now...but I think that Vermouth is more than enough to prove her sense of justice...Just like Antiyonder have stated,with the list of eps and stuff...I tried my best to read all the posts but gosh, its like endless! Impossible to read everything in one day read the first 20+ and 3 recent pages,last I can remember is about unicorns and hair, whatever... And about the chemistry stuff, eveyone have their own opinion on the matter, and its unfair to say that one's opinion is better than the other,I mean logical ones...okay,I'm starting to write nonsense,sorry but I'm a hardcore SHINRAN fan! And it really gets on my nerve,no offense guys, if someone says stuff like 'Ran can't keep up with Shinichi' or 'Ran and Shinichi have nothing in common',keeping up with one's line of work doesn't really matter in relationships,its an obvious fact and you see(This is a random 'you' hihi) Shinichi and Ran managed to be friends for at least 10 years,how do you think they did it, while have 'nothing' in common, Even though they have different interests, but they have the same point of view, and they respect each others interests,willing to tolerate,care for each other,this is enough in a relationship...And Ran is supportive of Shinichi's work, like I said earlier, 'keeping up' isn't necessary...hm..I reached my limit now, too tired to continue,so I'll come back later and continue? P.s: this post is filled with my random views and it might not make any sense cause I'm too tired to re-read so...

I know the name of the boss! He used his initials, BO as the initials of the syndicate's name(black organisation) He is...B.O. Aka...