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::::I think I see what you are referring to, but I meant specifics - not just basic information (head shot) that they got later on. As in, is there any indication as to whether or not they ever obtained autopsy records regarding the body that they then thought was Shuuichi, making one of the points in 'problems with this theory' irrelevant? If the only indication they had as to the state of the body was regarding what they expected (head shot, lung shot, burns, etc.), which is of course the least they would have worked to get, then it wouldn't matter much if the shot was to the temple rather than the forehead, and the later addition of a lung shot might not matter either. What I really mean is, where does it mention how in-depth their intelligence on the subject was? [[User:Ki-RBT|Ki-RBT]] ([[User talk:Ki-RBT|talk]]) 01:43, 4 November 2014 (CET) | ::::I think I see what you are referring to, but I meant specifics - not just basic information (head shot) that they got later on. As in, is there any indication as to whether or not they ever obtained autopsy records regarding the body that they then thought was Shuuichi, making one of the points in 'problems with this theory' irrelevant? If the only indication they had as to the state of the body was regarding what they expected (head shot, lung shot, burns, etc.), which is of course the least they would have worked to get, then it wouldn't matter much if the shot was to the temple rather than the forehead, and the later addition of a lung shot might not matter either. What I really mean is, where does it mention how in-depth their intelligence on the subject was? [[User:Ki-RBT|Ki-RBT]] ([[User talk:Ki-RBT|talk]]) 01:43, 4 November 2014 (CET) | ||
| + | == Flaws section == | ||
Apologies for the flash suppressor edit. Still, if a flash suppressor alone wouldn't protect his face, would it and a [[wikipedia:Muzzle break|Muzzle break]] do the trick? Probably not, and there likely would be no way to hide both, either. Still, while I agree that reality was ignored in favor of dramatic license, for the outside-universe reason, but, for an in-universe reason of why Akai's face is unscarred, it would likely fall along the lines of "gun with hidden muzzle break and hidden flash suppressor." [[User:DCUniverseAficionado|DCUniverseAficionado]] ([[User talk:DCUniverseAficionado|talk]]) 20:24, 24 April 2015 (CEST) | Apologies for the flash suppressor edit. Still, if a flash suppressor alone wouldn't protect his face, would it and a [[wikipedia:Muzzle break|Muzzle break]] do the trick? Probably not, and there likely would be no way to hide both, either. Still, while I agree that reality was ignored in favor of dramatic license, for the outside-universe reason, but, for an in-universe reason of why Akai's face is unscarred, it would likely fall along the lines of "gun with hidden muzzle break and hidden flash suppressor." [[User:DCUniverseAficionado|DCUniverseAficionado]] ([[User talk:DCUniverseAficionado|talk]]) 20:24, 24 April 2015 (CEST) | ||
| + | : There is no need to apologize for anything because you did nothing wrong. It's just the edit/revert/talk page process in action, which is a great thing because that means the wiki is working as intended. | ||
| + | : Personally, I am okay with discussing this problem (and others like it) in an out-of-universe fashion because it means that we don't have to contort the truth to make it fit the narrative. Enforcing a global Watsonian perspective would inhibit the wiki's ability to address errors and omissions plainly. Gosho and his crew are hardly perfect when it comes to firearms and it's okay to acknowledge the flaws. For instance, when Akai sniped Gin, his rifle was right handed and it would have been very clumsy for him to operate the bolt left-handed and maintain a bead on Gin. | ||
| + | : I do think it sounds like a good idea to suggest some additional ways (besides wadded blanks) that might have been able to solve the problem. "A flash suppressor attached the handgun's muzzle might have been able to redirect the majority of the burning hot gas. If one was used it would have been visible." I would draw the line at trying to suggest this is what actually happened in manga. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#B22222">Chekhov</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">MacGuffin</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''<font color="#696969">talk</font>''']]</sup> 03:42, 25 April 2015 (CEST) | ||
Revision as of 01:42, 25 April 2015
How did he fake his death with the help of Conan if he doesn't know if he's dead or not?
- Conan knew Akai faked his death, he and Akai and Kir planned it together. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 20:03, 2 November 2014 (CET)
Would the complete information really be released regarding the condition of Rikumichi's corpse? Certainly the BO has its ways, but how much information would they know about where the gunshot was, etc.? Ki-RBT (talk) 02:14, 3 November 2014 (CET)
- If you are caught up in the manga, it is revealed how Amuro got that information. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 03:14, 3 November 2014 (CET)
- It's in the article. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 08:54, 3 November 2014 (CET)
- I think I see what you are referring to, but I meant specifics - not just basic information (head shot) that they got later on. As in, is there any indication as to whether or not they ever obtained autopsy records regarding the body that they then thought was Shuuichi, making one of the points in 'problems with this theory' irrelevant? If the only indication they had as to the state of the body was regarding what they expected (head shot, lung shot, burns, etc.), which is of course the least they would have worked to get, then it wouldn't matter much if the shot was to the temple rather than the forehead, and the later addition of a lung shot might not matter either. What I really mean is, where does it mention how in-depth their intelligence on the subject was? Ki-RBT (talk) 01:43, 4 November 2014 (CET)
Flaws section
Apologies for the flash suppressor edit. Still, if a flash suppressor alone wouldn't protect his face, would it and a Muzzle break do the trick? Probably not, and there likely would be no way to hide both, either. Still, while I agree that reality was ignored in favor of dramatic license, for the outside-universe reason, but, for an in-universe reason of why Akai's face is unscarred, it would likely fall along the lines of "gun with hidden muzzle break and hidden flash suppressor." DCUniverseAficionado (talk) 20:24, 24 April 2015 (CEST)
- There is no need to apologize for anything because you did nothing wrong. It's just the edit/revert/talk page process in action, which is a great thing because that means the wiki is working as intended.
- Personally, I am okay with discussing this problem (and others like it) in an out-of-universe fashion because it means that we don't have to contort the truth to make it fit the narrative. Enforcing a global Watsonian perspective would inhibit the wiki's ability to address errors and omissions plainly. Gosho and his crew are hardly perfect when it comes to firearms and it's okay to acknowledge the flaws. For instance, when Akai sniped Gin, his rifle was right handed and it would have been very clumsy for him to operate the bolt left-handed and maintain a bead on Gin.
- I do think it sounds like a good idea to suggest some additional ways (besides wadded blanks) that might have been able to solve the problem. "A flash suppressor attached the handgun's muzzle might have been able to redirect the majority of the burning hot gas. If one was used it would have been visible." I would draw the line at trying to suggest this is what actually happened in manga. Chekhov MacGuffin talk 03:42, 25 April 2015 (CEST)
