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| episode            = 861-862
 
| episode            = 861-862
 
| image              = 861-862.jpg
 
| image              = 861-862.jpg
| title              = Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene
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| title              = {{PAGENAME}}
| japanese-title      = {{lang|ja|17年前と同じ現場}}<br>(17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba)
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| japanese-title      = {{lang|ja|17年前と同じ現場}} <br> (17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba)
| rating              = 5.2% <br/> 6.9%
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| rating              = 5.2% <br> 6.9%
 
| Manga case number  = #274
 
| Manga case number  = #274
 
| airdate            = June 3, 2017 (Part 1) <br> June 10, 2017 (Part 2)
 
| airdate            = June 3, 2017 (Part 1) <br> June 10, 2017 (Part 2)
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| dubbed-episode      =
 
| dubbed-episode      =
 
| english-airdate    =
 
| english-airdate    =
| cast                = [[Conan Edogawa]]<br />[[Ai Haibara]]<br />[[Hiroshi Agasa|Professor Agasa]]<br />[[Subaru Okiya]]<br />[[Andre Camel]]<br />[[Kohji Haneda]]<br />[[Shuichi Akai]]<br />[[Jodie Starling]]<br />[[Gin]]<br />[[Vodka]]<br />[[Juzo Megure|Inspector Megure]]<br />[[Wataru Takagi|Detective Takagi]]<br />[[Kazunobu Chiba|Detective Chiba]]<br />[[Fusae Campbell]]
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| cast                = [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Ai Haibara]] <br> [[Hiroshi Agasa]] <br> [[Subaru Okiya]] <br> [[Andre Camel]] <br> [[Kohji Haneda]] <br> [[Shuichi Akai]] <br> [[Jodie Starling]] <br> [[Gin]] <br> [[Vodka]] <br> [[Juzo Megure]] <br> [[Wataru Takagi]] <br> [[Kazunobu Chiba]] <br> [[Fusae Campbell]]
| solved-by          = [[Conan Edogawa]]<br />[[Subaru Okiya]]
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| solved-by          = [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Subaru Okiya]]
| next-conan-hint    = Scissors (Part 1)<br>Colored ball (Part 2)
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| next-conan-hint    = Scissors (Part 1) <br> Colored ball (Part 2)
 
| case                =
 
| case                =
 
| director            = [[Yasuichiro Yamamoto]]
 
| director            = [[Yasuichiro Yamamoto]]
| organizer          =
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| organizer          = [[Umesaburou Sagawa]] and [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]]
| storyboard          =
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| storyboard          = [[Umesaburou Sagawa]] and [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]]
| producer            =
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| producer            = 861: [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]], <br> 862: [[Akira Yoshimura]]
| animation-director  =
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| animation-director  = 861: [[Kenichi Otomo]], <br> 862: [[Asuka Tsubuki]], [[Kyoko Yoshimi]]
| voice-cast          = [[Minami Takayama]] as [[Conan Edogawa]]<br />[[Megumi Hayashibara]] as [[Ai Haibara]]<br />[[Kenichi Ogata]] as [[hiroshi Agasa|Professor Agasa]]<br />[[Ryotaro Okiayu]] as [[Subaru Okiya]]<br />[[Shuichi Ikeda]] as [[Shuichi Akai]]<br />[[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] as [[Andre Camel]]<br />[[Miyuki Ichijou]] as [[Jodie Starling]]<br />[[Chafurin]] as [[Juzo Megure|Inspector Megure]]<br />[[Wataru Takagi (voice actor)|Wataru Takagi]] as [[Wataru Takagi|Detective Takagi]]<br />[[Isshin Chiba]] as [[Kazunobu Chiba|Detective Chiba]] <br> [[Joji Nakata]] as Kazunori Senba <br> [[Kotaro Shinohara]] as Officer A <br> [[Shinnosuke Ogami]] as Officer B <br> [[Kozo Mito]] as Bodyguard A <br> [[Eiji Yanagisawa]] as Bodyguard B
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| voice-cast          = [[Minami Takayama]] as [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Megumi Hayashibara]] as [[Ai Haibara]] <br> [[Kenichi Ogata]] as [[hiroshi Agasa]] <br> [[Ryotaro Okiayu]] as [[Subaru Okiya]] <br> [[Shuichi Ikeda]] as [[Shuichi Akai]] <br> [[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] as [[Andre Camel]] <br> [[Miyuki Ichijou]] as [[Jodie Starling]] <br> [[Chafurin]] as [[Juzo Megure]] <br> [[Wataru Takagi (voice actor)|Wataru Takagi]] as [[Wataru Takagi]] <br> [[Isshin Chiba]] as [[Kazunobu Chiba]] <br> [[Joji Nakata]] as Kazunori Senba <br> [[Kotaro Shinohara]] as Officer A <br> [[Shinnosuke Ogami]] as Officer B <br> [[Kozo Mito]] as Bodyguard A <br> [[Eiji Yanagisawa]] as Bodyguard B
 
 
 
| opening-song        = Ikusen no Meikyuu de Ikusen no Nazo wo Toite
 
| opening-song        = Ikusen no Meikyuu de Ikusen no Nazo wo Toite
 
| closing-song        = YESTERDAY LOVE
 
| closing-song        = YESTERDAY LOVE
 
| prev-episode        = The Security System's Pitfall
 
| prev-episode        = The Security System's Pitfall
| next-episode        = Soul Detective Murder Case
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| next-episode        = The Spirit Detective's Murder
 
| footnotes          =
 
| footnotes          =
 
}}
 
}}
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{{nihongo|'''''{{PAGENAME}}'''''|17年前と同じ現場|17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba}} is the 861st and 862nd episodes of the ''[[Detective Conan]]'' [[anime]].
  
 
== Characters introduced ==
 
== Characters introduced ==
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* [[Shukichi Haneda|Shukichi]]'s non-blood brother
 
* [[Shukichi Haneda|Shukichi]]'s non-blood brother
 
* Shogi player}}
 
* Shogi player}}
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{{newChar|[[Amanda Hughes]]|Amanda Hughes EP861.jpg|link=Amanda Hughes|fsize=9px|
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* Deceased (induced apoptosis)
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* 80 years old
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* Wealthy american with contacts with intelligence agencies}}
 
{{endBox}}
 
{{endBox}}
  
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{{char|Conan Edogawa}}
 
{{char|Conan Edogawa}}
 
{{char|Ai Haibara}}
 
{{char|Ai Haibara}}
{{char|Hiroshi Agasa|display=Professor Agasa}}
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{{char|Hiroshi Agasa}}
 
{{char|Subaru Okiya}}
 
{{char|Subaru Okiya}}
 
{{char|Shuichi Akai|display=Shuichi Akai (voice/background)}}
 
{{char|Shuichi Akai|display=Shuichi Akai (voice/background)}}
 
{{char|Andre Camel}}
 
{{char|Andre Camel}}
 
{{char|Jodie Starling}}
 
{{char|Jodie Starling}}
{{char|Juzo Megure|display=Inspector Megure}}
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{{char|Juzo Megure}}
{{char|Wataru Takagi|display=Detective Takagi}}
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{{char|Wataru Takagi}}
{{char|Kazunobu Chiba|display=Detective Chiba}}
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{{char|Kazunobu Chiba}}
 
{{char|Gin|display=Gin (background)}}
 
{{char|Gin|display=Gin (background)}}
 
{{char|Vodka|display=Vodka (background)}}
 
{{char|Vodka|display=Vodka (background)}}
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=== Situation ===
 
=== Situation ===
 
==== Part 1 ====
 
==== Part 1 ====
At Agasa's resident, Conan and Haibara make research on Haneda Kohji. They learn that 17 years ago, he went to USA for a chess competition, but he was murdered in his hotel room. His room was left in a mess and cause of death is unknown. In another room in the same hotel, another murder took place. The victim was Amanda Hughes, a wealthy American with contacts in the FBI and CIA. She was a fan and an acquaintance of Haneda, and it was proved that she had visited him in his hotel room as her finger print were left on tea cups and other thing in the room. Like Haneda the cause of her death is unknown. In the pictures from the crime scene Conan spots a broken mirror with letters on it. P-T-O-N. Haibara thinks it's a part of a message PUT ON MASCARA, and explains that a cosmetic firm would give such mirrors along with products. Her sister had one, that was inherited from their mother. But it's unclear why Haneda would have such a mirror in his room. Haibara guess that Kohji Haneda was murdered because of his connection with Amanda Hughes.
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At Agasa's resident, Conan and Haibara make research on Kohji Haneda. They learn that fifteen years ago, he went to USA for a chess competition, but he was murdered in his hotel room. His room was left in a mess and cause of death is unknown. In another room in the same hotel, another murder took place. The victim was Amanda Hughes, a wealthy American with contacts in the FBI and CIA. She was a fan and an acquaintance of Haneda, and it was proved that she had visited him in his hotel room as her finger print were left on tea cups and other thing in the room. Like Haneda the cause of her death is unknown. In the pictures from the crime scene Conan spots a broken mirror with letters on it. P-T-O-N. Haibara thinks it's a part of a message PUT ON MASCARA, and explains that a cosmetic firm would give such mirrors along with products. Her sister had one, that was inherited from their mother. But it's unclear why Haneda would have such a mirror in his room. Haibara guess that Kohji Haneda was murdered because of his connection with Amanda Hughes.
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{{InfoBox Crime
 
{{InfoBox Crime
 
| crime = Murder (Past)
 
| crime = Murder (Past)
 
| victim = Amanda Hughes and Kohji Haneda
 
| victim = Amanda Hughes and Kohji Haneda
| age = 80 Years old (Amanda) & Unknown (Kohji)
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| age = 80 years old (Amanda) and unknown (Kohji)
 
| cause-death = Unknown (APTX 4869?)
 
| cause-death = Unknown (APTX 4869?)
| image =  
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| image =
 
| location = Juke Hotel in America
 
| location = Juke Hotel in America
 
| suspects = Asaka
 
| suspects = Asaka
 
}}
 
}}
 
 
{{InfoBox Crime
 
{{InfoBox Crime
 
| crime = Murder
 
| crime = Murder
 
| victim = Kunihisa Hiyama
 
| victim = Kunihisa Hiyama
| age = 61 Years old
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| age = 61 years old
| cause-death = Blunt Force Trauma to the Head
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| cause-death = Blunt force trauma to the head
 
| image = EP861-862 case.jpg
 
| image = EP861-862 case.jpg
| location = Hiyama's House
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| location = Hiyama's house
 
| suspects = Kazunori Senba
 
| suspects = Kazunori Senba
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
==== Part 2 ====
 
==== Part 2 ====
 
 
=== People ===
 
=== People ===
 
{{beginBox}}
 
{{beginBox}}
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* Deceased
 
* Deceased
 
* 80 years old
 
* 80 years old
* Fan of Kohji
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* Kohji's fan
* Wealthy American with intelligence contacts }}
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* Wealthy American with intelligence contacts}}
 
{{people|Asaka|Asaka EP861.jpg|
 
{{people|Asaka|Asaka EP861.jpg|
* Missing Person
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* Missing person
* Amanda's Bodyguard
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* Amanda's bodyguard
* Prime Suspect in the Murders of Amanda and Kohji}}
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* Prime suspect in Amanda and Kohji's murders}}
{{people|Kunihisa Hiyama|Kunihisa Hiyama.jpg|
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{{people|Kunihisa Hiyama|Kunihisa Hiyama.png|
 
* Victim (bludgeoned)
 
* Victim (bludgeoned)
 
* 61 years old
 
* 61 years old
* President of Real-Estate Company}}
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* Real-Estate Company president}}
 
{{people|Kazunori Senba|Kazunori Senba.jpg|
 
{{people|Kazunori Senba|Kazunori Senba.jpg|
 
* 50 years old
 
* 50 years old
* First Discoverer
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* First discoverer
* Former Dagashi <ref>'''Dagashi''' ({{lang|ja|駄菓子}}) - Japanese cheap sweets</ref> Shop Owner}}
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* Former Dagashi<ref>'''Dagashi''' ({{lang|ja|駄菓子}}) - Japanese cheap sweets.</ref> Shop owner}}
 
{{people|Bodyguard|bodyguarda.png|
 
{{people|Bodyguard|bodyguarda.png|
* Hiyama's bodyguard.
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* Hiyama's bodyguard
* Stangely Well-built.}}
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* Strangely well-built}}
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{{clear}}
 
{{people|Bodyguard 2|bodyguardb.png|
 
{{people|Bodyguard 2|bodyguardb.png|
* Hiyama's bodyguard.
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* Hiyama's bodyguard
* Stangely Well-built.}}
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* Strangely well-built}}
{{people|[[Minor law enforcement#Unnamed_officer|Forensics Staff member]]|Forensics2.png|
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{{people|[[Minor law enforcement#Unnamed officer|Forensics Staff member]]|Forensics2.png|
* Tokyo MPD CSI officer.}}
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* Tokyo MPD CSI officer}}
{{people|[[Minor law enforcement#Unnamed_officer|Forensics Staff member 2]]|Forensics3.png|
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{{people|[[Minor law enforcement#Unnamed officer|Forensics Staff member 2]]|Forensics3.png|
* Tokyo MPD CSI officer.}}
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* Tokyo MPD CSI officer}}
 
{{endBox}}
 
{{endBox}}
  
 
=== Resolution ===
 
=== Resolution ===
<spoiler>
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<spoiler>The killer is '''Kazunori Senba'''.
The killer is '''Kazunori Senba'''.
 
  
 
The culprit used a trick to bring in the murder weapon. He seal the empty toy capsule using cellotape. Then, he take the half of it and put the iron ball inside. He poured honey and closed it again. The culprit threw the two balls as well as the capsule on the roof at the same time to obscure the sound of the capsule hitting the roof, and only one fell to the ground. The honey makes it hard for the ball to roll fast and if the guards hear two balls landing to the roof, they will probably check where's the other one. The victim really didn't take the CR but the culprit, and until the iron ball came out to the roof, it came out through the small window. The culprit waited until the victim check the CR where the murder took place. The blood splattered to him will be proven by checking if there's a luminol reaction.
 
The culprit used a trick to bring in the murder weapon. He seal the empty toy capsule using cellotape. Then, he take the half of it and put the iron ball inside. He poured honey and closed it again. The culprit threw the two balls as well as the capsule on the roof at the same time to obscure the sound of the capsule hitting the roof, and only one fell to the ground. The honey makes it hard for the ball to roll fast and if the guards hear two balls landing to the roof, they will probably check where's the other one. The victim really didn't take the CR but the culprit, and until the iron ball came out to the roof, it came out through the small window. The culprit waited until the victim check the CR where the murder took place. The blood splattered to him will be proven by checking if there's a luminol reaction.
  
Upon realizing the victim's dying message on the glass cup is similar to the missing letters on the mirror in Kohji Haneda's room, Conan and Subaru each rearrange the missing letters and discover Haneda's dying message:
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Upon realizing the victim's dying message on the glass cup is similar to the missing letters on the mirror in Kōji Haneda's room, Conan and Subaru each rearrange the missing letters and discover Haneda's dying message:
  
<!--Changing this to the way it was phrased in the text spoilers translation until we actually have the chapter to confirm -->
 
 
PUT ON MASCARA  -  P T ON  =  U MASCARA <br>
 
PUT ON MASCARA  -  P T ON  =  U MASCARA <br>
 
U MASCARA  -  ASACA  =  U M R<br>
 
U MASCARA  -  ASACA  =  U M R<br>
Which can be rearranged to make RUM
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Which can be rearranged to make RUM</spoiler>
  
</spoiler>
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== Manga to anime changes ==
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{{main|List of differences between the manga and anime}}
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* In the anime, before exiting Agasa's house with the Professor and Conan, Subaru gives Haibara his oven mitts, telling her to recook the food he gave her.
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* In the anime, when Conan enters the Beetle to search for Agasa's laptop, the Professor tells him the culprit is going to be interviewed by the police. In the manga, Conan says he wants to check something before he goes and see the police interview.
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* In the anime, when trying to solve the "PUT ON MASCARA" riddle, after having deleted the letters P, T, O and N, Conan thinks to himself that there are many "A" in the riddle, and that the riddle is maybe a Japanese name.
  
== Gallery ==<!--
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== Gallery ==
 
{{main gallery}}
 
{{main gallery}}
<gallery widths=185 perrow=5>
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<gallery widths=185px perrow=5>
</gallery> -->
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</gallery>
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== Trivia ==
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* Subaru Okiya and Jodie Starling's vehicle is a Race Red with White twin Stripes 2007 Ford Shelby GT 500 SVT [S197].
  
 
== References ==
 
== References ==
<references />
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<references/>
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== In other languages ==
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{{BeginTable EpLang}}
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{{EpLangItem|flag=Vietnam|Vietnamese|Hiện trường giống với 17 năm trước|}}
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{{EpLangItem|flag=Thailand|Thai|เหมือนกับที่เกิดเหตุเมื่อ 17 ปีก่อน|Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene}}
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{{EndTable}}
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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[[Category:Episodes]]
 
[[Category:Episodes]]
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[[Category:Animation directed by Asuka Tsubuki]]
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[[Category:Animation directed by Kenichi Otomo]]
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[[Category:Animation directed by Kyoko Yoshimi]]

Revision as of 03:01, 14 November 2019

Episode 861-862
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Information
Title: Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene
Japanese title: 17年前と同じ現場
(17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba)
Original airdate: June 3, 2017 (Part 1)
June 10, 2017 (Part 2)
Broadcast rating: 5.2%
6.9%
Manga case: #274
Season: 27
Manga source: Volume 89: File 11 (948) ~ Volume 90: File 2 (950)
Case
Cast: Conan Edogawa
Ai Haibara
Hiroshi Agasa
Subaru Okiya
Andre Camel
Kohji Haneda
Shuichi Akai
Jodie Starling
Gin
Vodka
Juzo Megure
Wataru Takagi
Kazunobu Chiba
Fusae Campbell
Case solved by: Conan Edogawa
Subaru Okiya
Next Conan's Hint: Scissors (Part 1)
Colored ball (Part 2)
Staff
Director: Yasuichiro Yamamoto
Organizer: Umesaburou Sagawa and Nobuharu Kamanaka
Storyboard: Umesaburou Sagawa and Nobuharu Kamanaka
Episode director: 861: Nobuharu Kamanaka,
862: Akira Yoshimura
Animation Director: 861: Kenichi Otomo,
862: Asuka Tsubuki, Kyoko Yoshimi
Music
Opening song: Ikusen no Meikyuu de Ikusen no Nazo wo Toite
Closing song: YESTERDAY LOVE
Chronology
Prev episode: « The Security System's Pitfall
Next episode: The Spirit Detective's Murder »
List of episodes

Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene (17年前と同じ現場 17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba?) is the 861st and 862nd episodes of the Detective Conan anime.

Characters introduced

Cast

Case

Situation

Part 1

At Agasa's resident, Conan and Haibara make research on Kohji Haneda. They learn that fifteen years ago, he went to USA for a chess competition, but he was murdered in his hotel room. His room was left in a mess and cause of death is unknown. In another room in the same hotel, another murder took place. The victim was Amanda Hughes, a wealthy American with contacts in the FBI and CIA. She was a fan and an acquaintance of Haneda, and it was proved that she had visited him in his hotel room as her finger print were left on tea cups and other thing in the room. Like Haneda the cause of her death is unknown. In the pictures from the crime scene Conan spots a broken mirror with letters on it. P-T-O-N. Haibara thinks it's a part of a message PUT ON MASCARA, and explains that a cosmetic firm would give such mirrors along with products. Her sister had one, that was inherited from their mother. But it's unclear why Haneda would have such a mirror in his room. Haibara guess that Kohji Haneda was murdered because of his connection with Amanda Hughes.

Murder (Past)
Location: Juke Hotel in America
Victim: Amanda Hughes and Kohji Haneda
Age: 80 years old (Amanda) and unknown (Kohji)
Cause of death: Unknown (APTX 4869?)
Suspects: Asaka
Murder

EP861-862 case.jpg

Location: Hiyama's house
Victim: Kunihisa Hiyama
Age: 61 years old
Cause of death: Blunt force trauma to the head
Suspects: Kazunori Senba

Part 2

People

  • Resolution

    Manga to anime changes

    • In the anime, before exiting Agasa's house with the Professor and Conan, Subaru gives Haibara his oven mitts, telling her to recook the food he gave her.
    • In the anime, when Conan enters the Beetle to search for Agasa's laptop, the Professor tells him the culprit is going to be interviewed by the police. In the manga, Conan says he wants to check something before he goes and see the police interview.
    • In the anime, when trying to solve the "PUT ON MASCARA" riddle, after having deleted the letters P, T, O and N, Conan thinks to himself that there are many "A" in the riddle, and that the riddle is maybe a Japanese name.

    Gallery

    Trivia

    • Subaru Okiya and Jodie Starling's vehicle is a Race Red with White twin Stripes 2007 Ford Shelby GT 500 SVT [S197].

    References

    1. ^ Dagashi (駄菓子) - Japanese cheap sweets.

    In other languages

    Language Title Translation
    Flag of Vietnam Vietnamese Hiện trường giống với 17 năm trước
    Flag of Thailand Thai เหมือนกับที่เกิดเหตุเมื่อ 17 ปีก่อน Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene

    See also

    Episodes of Season 27
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