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| episode            = 861-862
 
| episode            = 861-862
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| title              = {{PAGENAME}}
 
| title              = {{PAGENAME}}
 
| japanese-title      = {{lang|ja|17年前と同じ現場}} <br> (17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba)
 
| japanese-title      = {{lang|ja|17年前と同じ現場}} <br> (17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba)
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| dubbed-episode      =
 
| dubbed-episode      =
 
| english-airdate    =
 
| english-airdate    =
| cast                = [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Ai Haibara]] <br> [[Hiroshi Agasa]] <br> [[Subaru Okiya]] <br> [[Andre Camel]] <br> [[Kohji Haneda]] <br> [[Shuichi Akai]] <br> [[Jodie Starling]] <br> [[Juzo Megure]] <br> [[Wataru Takagi]] <br> [[Kazunobu Chiba]] <br> [[Shinichi Kudo]] <br> [[Gin]] <br> [[Vodka]] <br> [[Fusae Campbell]]
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| cast                = [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Ai Haibara]] <br> [[Hiroshi Agasa]] <br> [[Subaru Okiya]] <br> [[Andre Camel]] <br> [[Kohji Haneda]] <br> [[Shuichi Akai]] <br> [[Jodie Starling]] <br> [[Juzo Megure]] <br> [[Wataru Takagi]] <br> [[Kazunobu Chiba]] <br> [[Shinichi Kudo]] <br> [[Gin]] <br> [[Vodka]] <br> [[Fusae Campbell]] <br> [[Kamen Yaiba]]
 
| solved-by          = [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Subaru Okiya]]
 
| solved-by          = [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Subaru Okiya]]
 
| next-conan-hint    = Scissors (Part 1) <br> Colored ball (Part 2)
 
| next-conan-hint    = Scissors (Part 1) <br> Colored ball (Part 2)
 
| case                =
 
| case                =
 
| director            = [[Yasuichiro Yamamoto]]
 
| director            = [[Yasuichiro Yamamoto]]
| organizer          = [[Umesaburou Sagawa]] and [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]]
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| organizer          = [[Umesaburo Sagawa]] <br> [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]]
| storyboard          = [[Umesaburou Sagawa]] and [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]]
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| storyboard          = [[Umesaburo Sagawa]] <br> [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]]
| producer            = 861: [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]], <br> 862: [[Akira Yoshimura]]
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| producer            = 861: [[Nobuharu Kamanaka]] <br> 862: [[Akira Yoshimura]]
| animation-director  = [[Masatomo Sudo]] and [[Seiji Muta]] (Supervisors) <br> 861: [[Kenichi Otomo]], <br> 862: [[Asuka Tsubuki]] and [[Kyoko Yoshimi]]
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| animation-director  = [[Masatomo Sudo]] and [[Seiji Muta]] (Supervisors) <br> 861: [[Kenichi Otomo]] <br> 862: [[Asuka Tsubuki]] and [[Kyoko Yoshimi]]
|character-design    = [[Kumiko Shishido]] (design works) <br> [[Rei Masunaga]]
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| character-design    = [[Masatomo Sudo]] <br> [[Nobuyuki Iwai]] <br> [[Rei Masunaga]] (sub-character) <br> [[Kumiko Shishido]] (design works)
 
| voice-cast          = [[Minami Takayama]] as [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Megumi Hayashibara]] as [[Ai Haibara]] <br> [[Kenichi Ogata]] as [[hiroshi Agasa]] <br> [[Ryotaro Okiayu]] as [[Subaru Okiya]] <br> [[Shuichi Ikeda]] as [[Shuichi Akai]] <br> [[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] as [[Andre Camel]] <br> [[Miyuki Ichijou]] as [[Jodie Starling]] <br> [[Chafurin]] as [[Juzo Megure]] <br> [[Wataru Takagi (voice actor)|Wataru Takagi]] as [[Wataru Takagi]] <br> [[Isshin Chiba]] as [[Kazunobu Chiba]] <br> [[Joji Nakata]] as Kazunori Senba <br> [[Kotaro Shinohara]] as Officer A <br> [[Shinnosuke Ogami]] as Officer B <br> [[Kozo Mito]] as Bodyguard A <br> [[Eiji Yanagisawa]] as Bodyguard B
 
| voice-cast          = [[Minami Takayama]] as [[Conan Edogawa]] <br> [[Megumi Hayashibara]] as [[Ai Haibara]] <br> [[Kenichi Ogata]] as [[hiroshi Agasa]] <br> [[Ryotaro Okiayu]] as [[Subaru Okiya]] <br> [[Shuichi Ikeda]] as [[Shuichi Akai]] <br> [[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] as [[Andre Camel]] <br> [[Miyuki Ichijou]] as [[Jodie Starling]] <br> [[Chafurin]] as [[Juzo Megure]] <br> [[Wataru Takagi (voice actor)|Wataru Takagi]] as [[Wataru Takagi]] <br> [[Isshin Chiba]] as [[Kazunobu Chiba]] <br> [[Joji Nakata]] as Kazunori Senba <br> [[Kotaro Shinohara]] as Officer A <br> [[Shinnosuke Ogami]] as Officer B <br> [[Kozo Mito]] as Bodyguard A <br> [[Eiji Yanagisawa]] as Bodyguard B
 
| opening-song        = Ikusen no Meikyū de Ikusen no Nazo o Toite
 
| opening-song        = Ikusen no Meikyū de Ikusen no Nazo o Toite
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| prev-episode        = The Security System's Pitfall
 
| prev-episode        = The Security System's Pitfall
 
| next-episode        = The Spirit Detective's Murder
 
| next-episode        = The Spirit Detective's Murder
| footnotes          =
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| footnotes          = Last episode to feature [[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] as the voice of [[Andre Camel]].
 
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{{nihongo|'''''{{PAGENAME}}'''''|17年前と同じ現場|17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba}} is the 861st and 862nd episode of the ''[[Detective Conan]]'' [[anime]].
 
{{nihongo|'''''{{PAGENAME}}'''''|17年前と同じ現場|17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba}} is the 861st and 862nd episode of the ''[[Detective Conan]]'' [[anime]].
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* [[Shukichi Haneda|Shukichi]]'s non-blood brother
 
* [[Shukichi Haneda|Shukichi]]'s non-blood brother
 
* Shogi player}}
 
* Shogi player}}
{{newChar|[[Amanda Hughes]]|Amanda Hughes EP861.jpg|link=Amanda Hughes|fsize=9px|
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{{newChar|[[Amanda Hughes]]|Amanda Hughes.jpg|link=Amanda Hughes|fsize=9px|
 
* Deceased (induced apoptosis)
 
* Deceased (induced apoptosis)
 
* 80 years old
 
* 80 years old
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{{char|Wataru Takagi}}
 
{{char|Wataru Takagi}}
 
{{char|Kazunobu Chiba}}
 
{{char|Kazunobu Chiba}}
{{char|Shinichi Kudo|display=Shinichi Kudo (background)}}  
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{{char|Shinichi Kudo|display=Shinichi Kudo (background)}}
{{char|Gin|display=Gin (background)}}
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{{char|Gin|display=Gin<br>(background)}}
{{char|Vodka|display=Vodka (background)}}
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{{char|Vodka|display=Vodka<br>(background)}}
 
{{char|Fusae Campbell|display=Fusae Campbell (background)}}
 
{{char|Fusae Campbell|display=Fusae Campbell (background)}}
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{{char|Kamen Yaiba|display=Kamen Yaiba (background)}}
 
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=== Situation ===
 
=== Situation ===
 
==== Part 1 ====
 
==== Part 1 ====
At Agasa's resident, Conan and Haibara do research on Kohji Haneda. They learn that fifteen years ago, he went to USA for a chess competition, but he was murdered in his hotel room. His room was left in a mess and cause of death is unknown. In another room in the same hotel, another murder took place. The victim was Amanda Hughes, a wealthy American with contacts in the FBI and CIA. She was a fan and an acquaintance of Haneda, and it was proved that she had visited him in his hotel room as her finger print were left on tea cups and other thing in the room. Like Haneda the cause of her death is unknown. In the pictures from the crime scene Conan spots a broken mirror with letters on it. P-T-O-N. Haibara thinks it's a part of a message PUT ON MASCARA, and explains that a cosmetic firm would give such mirrors along with products. Her sister had one, that was inherited from their mother. But it's unclear why Haneda would have such a mirror in his room. Haibara guess that Kohji Haneda was murdered because of his connection with Amanda Hughes.
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At Agasa's resident, Conan and Haibara do research on Kohji Haneda. They learn that seventeen years ago, he went to USA for a chess competition, but he was murdered in his hotel room. His room was left in a mess and the cause of death is unknown. In another room in the same hotel, another murder took place. The victim was Amanda Hughes, a wealthy American with contacts of the FBI and CIA. She was a fan and an acquaintance of Haneda, and it was proved that she had visited him in his hotel room as her finger prints were left on the doorknob, sofa, tea cup, plate, and fork. Like Haneda, the cause of her death is unknown. In the pictures from the crime scene Conan spots a broken mirror with letters on it. P-T-O-N. Haibara thinks it's a part of a message PUT ON MASCARA, and explains that a cosmetic firm would give such mirrors along with products. Her sister had one, that was inherited from their mother. But it's unclear why Haneda would have such a mirror in his room. Haibara guesses that Kohji Haneda was murdered because of his connection with Amanda Hughes.
  
 
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| age = 80 years old (Amanda) and unknown (Kohji)
 
| age = 80 years old (Amanda) and unknown (Kohji)
 
| cause-death = Unknown (APTX 4869?)
 
| cause-death = Unknown (APTX 4869?)
| image =
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| image = EP861 Case.jpg
 
| location = Juke Hotel in America
 
| location = Juke Hotel in America
 
| suspects = Asaka
 
| suspects = Asaka
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=== People ===
 
=== People ===
 
{{beginBox}}
 
{{beginBox}}
{{people|[[Amanda Hughes]]|Amanda Hughes EP861.jpg|fsize=9px|
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{{People|[[Kohji Haneda]]|Kohji Haneda.jpg|
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* Deceased ([[APTX 4869]]?)
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* [[Shukichi Haneda|Shukichi]]'s non-blood brother
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* Shogi player}}
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{{people|[[Amanda Hughes]]|Amanda Hughes.jpg|fsize=9px|
 
* Deceased
 
* Deceased
 
* 80 years old
 
* 80 years old
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* Hiyama's bodyguard
 
* Hiyama's bodyguard
 
* Strangely well-built}}
 
* Strangely well-built}}
{{people|[[Minor law enforcement#Unnamed officer|Forensics Staff member]]|Forensics2.png|
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{{people|[[Minor law enforcement#Unnamed officer|Forensics staff member]]|Forensics2.png|
 
* Tokyo MPD CSI officer}}
 
* Tokyo MPD CSI officer}}
{{people|[[Minor law enforcement#Unnamed officer|Forensics Staff member 2]]|Forensics3.png|
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{{people|[[Minor law enforcement#Unnamed officer|Forensics staff member 2]]|Forensics3.png|
 
* Tokyo MPD CSI officer}}
 
* Tokyo MPD CSI officer}}
 
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Upon realizing the victim's dying message on the glass cup is similar to the missing letters on the mirror in Kōji Haneda's room, Conan and Subaru each rearrange the missing letters and discover Haneda's dying message:
 
Upon realizing the victim's dying message on the glass cup is similar to the missing letters on the mirror in Kōji Haneda's room, Conan and Subaru each rearrange the missing letters and discover Haneda's dying message:
  
PUT ON MASCARA - P T ON = U MASCARA <br>
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PUT ON MASCARA - P T ON = U MASCARA <br>
U MASCARA - ASACA = U M R<br>
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U MASCARA - ASACA = U M R<br>
 
Which can be rearranged to make RUM</spoiler>
 
Which can be rearranged to make RUM</spoiler>
  
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== Gallery ==
 
== Gallery ==
 
{{main gallery}}
 
{{main gallery}}
<gallery widths=185px perrow=5>
 
File:EP861 1.png|
 
File:EP861 2.jpeg|
 
File:EP861-2.jpeg|
 
</gallery>
 
  
 
== Trivia ==
 
== Trivia ==
 
* Subaru Okiya and Jodie Starling's vehicle is a Race Red with White twin Stripes 2007 Ford Shelby GT 500 SVT [S197].
 
* Subaru Okiya and Jodie Starling's vehicle is a Race Red with White twin Stripes 2007 Ford Shelby GT 500 SVT [S197].
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* The names of the suspects are related to numbers and calculus<ref>{{cite web|url=https://w.atwiki.jp/aniwotawiki/pages/37084.html|accessdate=2023-05-14|title=17年前と同じ現場(名探偵コナン)}}</ref>:
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:* Kunihisa Hiyama (樋山 邦寿) comes from "hundred" (百, hyaku) and "substraction" (差, sa / 引き算, hikizan);
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:* Kazunori Senba (仙波 和徳) comes from "thousand" (千, chi/sen) and "addition" (和, kazu / 足し算, tashizan).
  
 
== References ==
 
== References ==
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== In other languages ==
 
== In other languages ==
 
{{BeginTable EpLang}}
 
{{BeginTable EpLang}}
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{{EpLangItem|flag=Catalonia|Catalan|El mateix escenari del crim que fa disset anys|The Same Crime Scene from Seventeen Years Ago}}
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{{EpLangItem|flag=France|French (Subbed)|Scènes de crime analogues à 17 ans d’intervalle|Crime scenes alike in 17 years interval}}
 
{{EpLangItem|flag=Thailand|Thai|เหมือนกับที่เกิดเหตุเมื่อ 17 ปีก่อน|Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene}}
 
{{EpLangItem|flag=Thailand|Thai|เหมือนกับที่เกิดเหตุเมื่อ 17 ปีก่อน|Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene}}
 
{{EpLangItem|flag=Vietnam|Vietnamese|Hiện trường giống với 17 năm trước|}}
 
{{EpLangItem|flag=Vietnam|Vietnamese|Hiện trường giống với 17 năm trước|}}
 
{{EndTable}}
 
{{EndTable}}
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== References ==
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<references/>
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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[[Category:Animation directed by Kenichi Otomo]]
 
[[Category:Animation directed by Kenichi Otomo]]
 
[[Category:Animation directed by Kyoko Yoshimi]]
 
[[Category:Animation directed by Kyoko Yoshimi]]
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Latest revision as of 05:37, 25 November 2023

Episode 861-862
(Int. Episode 916-917)

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Information
Title: Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene
Japanese title: 17年前と同じ現場
(17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba)
Original airdate: June 3, 2017 (Part 1)
June 10, 2017 (Part 2)
Broadcast rating: 5.2%
6.9%
Manga case: #274
Season: 27
Manga source: Volume 89: File 11 (948) ~ Volume 90: File 2 (950)
Case
Cast: Conan Edogawa
Ai Haibara
Hiroshi Agasa
Subaru Okiya
Andre Camel
Kohji Haneda
Shuichi Akai
Jodie Starling
Juzo Megure
Wataru Takagi
Kazunobu Chiba
Shinichi Kudo
Gin
Vodka
Fusae Campbell
Kamen Yaiba
Case solved by: Conan Edogawa
Subaru Okiya
Next Conan's Hint: Scissors (Part 1)
Colored ball (Part 2)
Staff
Director: Yasuichiro Yamamoto
Organizer: Umesaburo Sagawa
Nobuharu Kamanaka
Storyboard: Umesaburo Sagawa
Nobuharu Kamanaka
Episode director: 861: Nobuharu Kamanaka
862: Akira Yoshimura
Animation Director: Masatomo Sudo and Seiji Muta (Supervisors)
861: Kenichi Otomo
862: Asuka Tsubuki and Kyoko Yoshimi
Character Design: Masatomo Sudo
Nobuyuki Iwai
Rei Masunaga (sub-character)
Kumiko Shishido (design works)
Music
Opening song: Ikusen no Meikyū de Ikusen no Nazo o Toite
Closing song: YESTERDAY LOVE
Chronology
Prev episode: « The Security System's Pitfall
Next episode: The Spirit Detective's Murder »
List of episodes
Last episode to feature Kiyoyuki Yanada as the voice of Andre Camel.

Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene (17年前と同じ現場 17-Nen mae to Onaji Genba?) is the 861st and 862nd episode of the Detective Conan anime.

Characters introduced

Cast

Case

Situation

Part 1

At Agasa's resident, Conan and Haibara do research on Kohji Haneda. They learn that seventeen years ago, he went to USA for a chess competition, but he was murdered in his hotel room. His room was left in a mess and the cause of death is unknown. In another room in the same hotel, another murder took place. The victim was Amanda Hughes, a wealthy American with contacts of the FBI and CIA. She was a fan and an acquaintance of Haneda, and it was proved that she had visited him in his hotel room as her finger prints were left on the doorknob, sofa, tea cup, plate, and fork. Like Haneda, the cause of her death is unknown. In the pictures from the crime scene Conan spots a broken mirror with letters on it. P-T-O-N. Haibara thinks it's a part of a message PUT ON MASCARA, and explains that a cosmetic firm would give such mirrors along with products. Her sister had one, that was inherited from their mother. But it's unclear why Haneda would have such a mirror in his room. Haibara guesses that Kohji Haneda was murdered because of his connection with Amanda Hughes.

Murder (Past)

EP861 Case.jpg

Location: Juke Hotel in America
Victim: Amanda Hughes and Kohji Haneda
Age: 80 years old (Amanda) and unknown (Kohji)
Cause of death: Unknown (APTX 4869?)
Suspects: Asaka
Murder

EP861-862 case.jpg

Location: Hiyama's house
Victim: Kunihisa Hiyama
Age: 61 years old
Cause of death: Blunt force trauma to the head
Suspects: Kazunori Senba

Part 2

People

  • Resolution

    Manga to anime changes

    • In the anime, before exiting Agasa's house with the Professor and Conan, Subaru gives Haibara his oven mitts, telling her to recook the food he gave her.
    • In the anime, when Conan enters the Beetle to search for Agasa's laptop, the Professor tells him the culprit is going to be interviewed by the police. In the manga, Conan says he wants to check something before he goes and see the police interview.
    • In the anime, when trying to solve the "PUT ON MASCARA" riddle, after having deleted the letters P, T, O and N, Conan thinks to himself that there are many "A" in the riddle, and that the riddle is maybe a Japanese name.

    Gallery

    Trivia

    • Subaru Okiya and Jodie Starling's vehicle is a Race Red with White twin Stripes 2007 Ford Shelby GT 500 SVT [S197].
    • The names of the suspects are related to numbers and calculus[2]:
    • Kunihisa Hiyama (樋山 邦寿) comes from "hundred" (百, hyaku) and "substraction" (差, sa / 引き算, hikizan);
    • Kazunori Senba (仙波 和徳) comes from "thousand" (千, chi/sen) and "addition" (和, kazu / 足し算, tashizan).

    References

    1. ^ Dagashi (駄菓子) - Japanese cheap sweets.
    2. ^ "17年前と同じ現場(名探偵コナン)". https://w.atwiki.jp/aniwotawiki/pages/37084.html. Retrieved on 2023-05-14. 

    In other languages

    Language Title Translation
    Flag of Catalonia Catalan El mateix escenari del crim que fa disset anys The Same Crime Scene from Seventeen Years Ago
    Flag of France French (Subbed) Scènes de crime analogues à 17 ans d’intervalle Crime scenes alike in 17 years interval
    Flag of Thailand Thai เหมือนกับที่เกิดเหตุเมื่อ 17 ปีก่อน Just Like a 17 Years Old Crime Scene
    Flag of Vietnam Vietnamese Hiện trường giống với 17 năm trước

    References


    See also

    Episodes of Season 27
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