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	=== "Silver Bullet" and "APTX 4869" are two names for the same project ===		=== "Silver Bullet" and "APTX 4869" are two names for the same project ===
	:''See also: [[APTX 4869]]''		:''See also: [[APTX 4869]]''
	From the loving nature of the Miyanos, it is likely they had good intentions and were trying to create a benevolent drug. From what [[APTX 4869]] became, it could be an anti-aging, de-aging or immortality drug. Elena's 18th tape suggests the drug development showed promise but they also realized the drug's potential to become something bad. APTX 4869 would therefore be a continuation of Silver Bullet in the bad direction. Shiho Miyano also hinted at two different possibilities for the drug when ~~say~~ said that she did not intend to create a poison,<ref name="179p9">Manga [[Volume 18]], File 9 (179), page 9: "The Girl Made Of Lies"</ref> and "what [the organization] wanted me to make, was another drug".		From the loving nature of the Miyanos, it is likely they had good intentions and were trying to create a benevolent drug. From what [[APTX 4869]] became, it could be an anti-aging, de-aging or immortality drug. Elena's 18th tape suggests the drug development showed promise but they also realized the drug's potential to become something bad. APTX 4869 would therefore be a continuation of Silver Bullet in the bad direction. Shiho Miyano also hinted at two different possibilities for the drug when she said that she did not intend to create a poison,<ref name="179p9">Manga [[Volume 18]], File 9 (179), page 9: "The Girl Made Of Lies"</ref> and "what [the organization] wanted me to make, was another drug".

	Haibara took over her parents' research after they died by reconstructing their work from surviving fragments of a lab fire which killed her parents.<ref>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"</ref> One of these projects was the APTX 4869 project. The proof that some version of APTX 4869 existed in the Miyano parents' time lies in a [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869 Victims\|victims list]] which includes the name of [[Kohji Haneda\|a man]] killed with the drug [[Case from 17 years ago\|17 years prior]] to the current timeline. Because Shiho had to reconstruct her parents' research from the fragments that survived, intentionally or unintentionally, it is possible that some of what the Miyanos called the Silver Bullet became incorporated into Shiho's modern version of APTX 4869.		Haibara took over her parents' research after they died by reconstructing their work from surviving fragments of a lab fire which killed her parents.<ref>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"</ref> One of these projects was the APTX 4869 project. The proof that some version of APTX 4869 existed in the Miyano parents' time lies in a [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869 Victims\|victims list]] which includes the name of [[Kohji Haneda\|a man]] killed with the drug [[Case from 17 years ago\|17 years prior]] to the current timeline. Because Shiho had to reconstruct her parents' research from the fragments that survived, intentionally or unintentionally, it is possible that some of what the Miyanos called the Silver Bullet became incorporated into Shiho's modern version of APTX 4869.

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	=== "Silver Bullet" and "APTX 4869" are two names for the same project ===		=== "Silver Bullet" and "APTX 4869" are two names for the same project ===
	:''See also: [[APTX 4869]]''		:''See also: [[APTX 4869]]''
	It is ~~unclear whether Silver Bullet is the Miyano parents' personal nickname for~~ what ~~is currently called~~ [[APTX 4869]], or ~~if it was a closely related project they developed in parallel~~. ~~Whatever~~ the ~~case,~~ the ~~Miyanos' Silver Bullet~~ drug ~~and Shiho~~'s APTX 4869 ~~are probably closely linked if~~ not the ~~same in-development~~ drug.		From the loving nature of the Miyanos, it is likely they had good intentions and were trying to create a benevolent drug. From what [[APTX 4869]] became, it could be an anti-aging, de-aging or immortality drug. Elena's 18th tape suggests the drug development showed promise but they also realized the drug's potential to become something bad. APTX 4869 would therefore be a continuation of Silver Bullet in the bad direction. Shiho Miyano also hinted at two different possibilities for the drug when say said that she did not intend to create a poison,<ref name="179p9">Manga [[Volume 18]], File 9 (179), page 9: "The Girl Made Of Lies"</ref> and "what [the organization] wanted me to make, was another drug".

	Haibara took over her parents' research after they died by reconstructing their work from surviving fragments of a lab fire which killed her parents.<ref>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"</ref> One of these projects was the [[APTX 4869]] project. The proof that some version of APTX 4869 existed in the Miyano parents' time lies in a [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869 Victims\|victims list]] which includes the name of [[Kohji Haneda\|a man]] killed with the drug [[Case from 17 years ago\|17 years prior]] to the current timeline. Because Shiho had to reconstruct her parents' research from the fragments that survived, intentionally or unintentionally, it is possible that some of what the Miyanos called the [[Silver Bullet]] became incorporated into Shiho's modern version of [[APTX 4869]].		Haibara took over her parents' research after they died by reconstructing their work from surviving fragments of a lab fire which killed her parents.<ref>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"</ref> One of these projects was the APTX 4869 project. The proof that some version of APTX 4869 existed in the Miyano parents' time lies in a [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869 Victims\|victims list]] which includes the name of [[Kohji Haneda\|a man]] killed with the drug [[Case from 17 years ago\|17 years prior]] to the current timeline. Because Shiho had to reconstruct her parents' research from the fragments that survived, intentionally or unintentionally, it is possible that some of what the Miyanos called the Silver Bullet became incorporated into Shiho's modern version of APTX 4869.

	Regardless of what the parents' version of APTX 4869 was intended for, those who know about the shrinking side effect of Shiho's modern version of APTX 4869 have a tendency to compare it to the Miyanos' research. After watching Haibara shrink, Pisco, who knew about the project the Miyanos worked on, commented that Shiho's parents would be proud of the progress Shiho had made on the drug.<ref name=V24-11p9>Manga [[Volume 24]], File 11, page 9: "The White World"</ref> As Haibara was holding and considering taking the antidote to APTX 4869, she thinks back to the tapes. She then regrets having developed the drug, strongly implying she had worked on the same drug as well.<ref name=821p7/> Lastly, [[Vermouth]], who opposed the Miyanos' research, seems to have transposed her distaste onto Shiho's research and Shiho herself.<ref>"If you [Shiho] want to blame someone, blame your parents who took over this foolish research." Episode 345</ref>		Regardless of what the parents' version of APTX 4869 was intended for, those who know about the shrinking side effect of Shiho's modern version of APTX 4869 have a tendency to compare it to the Miyanos' research. After watching Haibara shrink, Pisco, who knew about the project the Miyanos worked on, commented that Shiho's parents would be proud of the progress Shiho had made on the drug.<ref name=V24-11p9>Manga [[Volume 24]], File 11, page 9: "The White World"</ref> As Haibara was holding and considering taking the antidote to APTX 4869, she thinks back to the tapes. She then regrets having developed the drug, strongly implying she had worked on the same drug as well.<ref name=821p7/> Lastly, [[Vermouth]], who opposed the Miyanos' research, seems to have transposed her distaste onto Shiho's research and Shiho herself.<ref>"If you [Shiho] want to blame someone, blame your parents who took over this foolish research." Episode 345</ref>

	It is also notable that Vermouth has been a part of the Black Organization long enough to have heard the Miyanos use the name "Silver Bullet",<ref>Vermouth has been in the Organization at least 20 years dated by when she assassinated Jodie's father which is more time than the theoretical maximum 18 years the tapes could be recorded -- dated to Shiho's conception.</ref> and may have given Conan the same nickname in reference to his deaged state caused by the drug.		It is also notable that Vermouth has been a part of the Black Organization long enough to have heard the Miyanos use the name "Silver Bullet",<ref>Vermouth has been in the Organization at least 20 years dated by when she assassinated Jodie's father which is more time than the theoretical maximum 18 years the tapes could be recorded -- dated to Shiho's conception.</ref> and may have given Conan the same nickname in reference to his deaged state caused by the drug.

	During the conversation, where Conan and Haibara discuss APTX 4869 and its connection to Kohji Haneda's death, Haibara thought "what [the organization] wanted me to make, was another drug". It is possible that the "other drug" was the intended result of the APTX 4869 research, and maybe that drug had the name "Silver Bullet".

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	"'''Silver Bullet'''" is the name given to a mysterious drug created by [[Elena Miyano]] and [[Atsushi Miyano]] ~~for~~ the [[Black Organization]].		"'''Silver Bullet'''" is the name given to a mysterious drug created by [[Elena Miyano]] and [[Atsushi Miyano]]. It is related to the [[APTX 4869]] created by the [[Black Organization]].

	== Background ==		== Background ==

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	== Background ==		== Background ==
	~~In a~~ cassette ~~tape~~ left for Shiho ~~17 years ago~~<ref>Bathroom Murder Case (Manga: [[Volume 41#Bathroom Murder Case\|423-425]]; Anime: [[Hidden Bathroom Secret\|340-341]])</ref>, ~~Elena reveals she is~~ working on a certain drug. While ~~Elena's~~ lab mates ~~are~~ excited about it and ~~consider~~ it "a dream drug", Elena ~~considers~~ it "a truly terrifying drug" and the ~~Miyano parents~~ "~~call~~ it the ''Silver Bullet'' in hope" (perhaps in hope that it ends up as a drug for good rather than bad).<ref>Mystery Train (Manga: [[Volume 78#Mystery Train\|821, 823-824]]; Anime: [[The Jet-Black Mystery Train\|702, 704]])</ref><ref name=821p7>Manga Chapter 821, pg 7: "Mystery Train 「Junction」"</ref> Elena and Atsushi had to leave behind [[Shiho Miyano\|Shiho]] and [[Akemi Miyano\|Akemi]] in order to complete the drug.<ref name=821p7/>		19 years ago, the Miyanos were running the Miyano Clinic and not doing research but were considering accepting the [[Karasuma Group]]'s offer to sponsor their research.<ref>Black Bunny's Club Case (Manga: [[Volume 95#Black Bunny's Club Case\|1009-1012]], Anime: [[The Unsolved Cocktail Case\|952-954]])</ref> 17 years ago, revealed through cassette tapes Elena left behind for Shiho<ref>Bathroom Murder Case (Manga: [[Volume 41#Bathroom Murder Case\|423-425]]; Anime: [[Hidden Bathroom Secret\|340-341]])</ref>, they were working on a certain drug. While their lab mates were excited about it and considered it "a dream drug", Elena considered it "a truly terrifying drug" and the Miyanos were "calling it the ''Silver Bullet'' in hope" (perhaps in hope that it ends up as a drug for good rather than bad).<ref>Mystery Train (Manga: [[Volume 78#Mystery Train\|821, 823-824]]; Anime: [[The Jet-Black Mystery Train\|702, 704]])</ref><ref name=821p7>Manga Chapter 821, pg 7: "Mystery Train 「Junction」"</ref> Elena and Atsushi had to leave behind [[Shiho Miyano\|Shiho]] and [[Akemi Miyano\|Akemi]] in order to complete the drug.<ref name=821p7/>

	After thinking about this message left by Elena, [[Ai Haibara]] regrets making [[APTX 4869]] and thinks it is something that should have never been made.<ref name=821p7/>		After thinking about this message left by Elena, [[Ai Haibara]] regrets making [[APTX 4869]] and thinks it is something that should have never been made.<ref name=821p7/>

	The research related to Silver Bullet ~~may have been~~ partially or wholly destroyed by the fire which ~~destroyed much of~~ the Miyanos' ~~research and took their~~ lives.<ref>		The research related to Silver Bullet was partially or wholly destroyed by the fire which also took the Miyanos' lives.<ref>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"
	~~'''Conan:''' Wait a minute, so the drug that I was forced to take existed 17 years ago? And you are its creator? How old are you really?<br>~~
	'''Haibara:''' How rude. I've told you before. I am 18 now. Perhaps it was an early prototype of a drug made by my parents. The information for the drug that I created was mostly taken from the burnt remains of the data that my parents left behind.<br>
	~~'''Conan:''' Burnt remains? What do you mean?<br>~~
	'''Haibara:''' Well, the research lab that my parents worked in caught fire, and along with them, most of their research materials were burnt. I heard from the other members of the Organization that it was an accident.<br>
	~~''Well, what I was really ordered to make was another drug, however...<!-- SPIMER EXACT TRANS FOR THIS ONE LINE-->''<br~~>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"
	</ref> If some of it survived, it is possible that Shiho Miyano incorporated it into one of her modern projects. At the current time, it is still unstated how [[Silver Bullet]], APTX 4869, and any other research projects of the Black Organization are related to one another.		</ref> If some of it survived, it is possible that Shiho Miyano incorporated it into one of her modern projects. At the current time, it is still unstated how [[Silver Bullet]], APTX 4869, and any other research projects of the Black Organization are related to one another.

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	== Quotes ==		== Quotes ==
	{{cquote\|Shiho, won't you regret what you are about to do? If so, I'm totally on your side! Well, it will be you nineteenth birthday next time. Bye-bye, honey. Oh yes, maybe it's about time I told you... The truth is, your mom is making a truly ''terrifying'' drug at the moment. My lab mates are getting really excited about it, they say it's like a dream drug. Your dad and I are ~~putting all our hopes on it and~~ calling it the [[Silver Bullet ~~(drug)\|Silver Bullet]]!~~ But in order to complete the drug, your dad and I will have to leave you and your sister. Please understand, Shiho.\|Part of Elena's message on Shiho's 18th tape.<ref>Manga [[Volume 78]], File 4 (821), pgs 7-8: "Mystery Train: Junction"</ref>}}		{{cquote\|Shiho, won't you regret what you are about to do? If so, I'm totally on your side! Well, it will be you nineteenth birthday next time. Bye-bye, honey. Oh yes, maybe it's about time I told you... The truth is, your mom is making a truly ''terrifying'' drug at the moment. My lab mates are getting really excited about it, they say it's like a dream drug. Your dad and I are calling it the Silver Bullet, putting our wishes in the name. But in order to complete the drug, your dad and I will have to leave you and your sister. Please understand, Shiho.\|Part of Elena's message on Shiho's 18th tape.<ref>Manga [[Volume 78]], File 4 (821), pgs 7-8: "Mystery Train: Junction"</ref>}}

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	== Background ==		== Background ==
	In a cassette tape left for Shiho<ref>Bathroom Murder Case (Manga: [[Volume 41#Bathroom Murder Case\|423-425]]; Anime: [[Hidden Bathroom Secret\|340-341]])</ref>, Elena reveals she ~~had been~~ working on "a truly terrifying drug" the Miyano parents ~~called~~ the ''Silver Bullet''.<ref>Mystery Train (Manga: [[Volume 78#Mystery Train\|821, 823-824]]; Anime: [[The Jet-Black Mystery Train\|702, 704]])</ref> ~~It was something incredible enough that Elena said they were "putting their hopes on it",~~<ref name=821p7>Manga Chapter 821, pg 7: "Mystery Train 「Junction」"</ref> ~~and Elena's lab mates had taken to calling it "a dream drug". It was important enough that~~ Elena and Atsushi had to leave behind [[Shiho Miyano\|Shiho]] and [[Akemi Miyano\|Akemi]] in order to complete the drug.<ref name=821p7/>		In a cassette tape left for Shiho 17 years ago<ref>Bathroom Murder Case (Manga: [[Volume 41#Bathroom Murder Case\|423-425]]; Anime: [[Hidden Bathroom Secret\|340-341]])</ref>, Elena reveals she is working on a certain drug. While Elena's lab mates are excited about it and consider it "a dream drug", Elena considers it "a truly terrifying drug" and the Miyano parents "call it the ''Silver Bullet'' in hope" (perhaps in hope that it ends up as a drug for good rather than bad).<ref>Mystery Train (Manga: [[Volume 78#Mystery Train\|821, 823-824]]; Anime: [[The Jet-Black Mystery Train\|702, 704]])</ref><ref name=821p7>Manga Chapter 821, pg 7: "Mystery Train 「Junction」"</ref> Elena and Atsushi had to leave behind [[Shiho Miyano\|Shiho]] and [[Akemi Miyano\|Akemi]] in order to complete the drug.<ref name=821p7/>

	After thinking about this message left by Elena, [[Ai Haibara]] regrets making ~~the drug~~ and thinks it is something that should have never been made.<ref name=821p7/>		After thinking about this message left by Elena, [[Ai Haibara]] regrets making [[APTX 4869]] and thinks it is something that should have never been made.<ref name=821p7/>

	The research related to Silver Bullet may have been partially or wholly destroyed by the fire which destroyed much of the Miyanos' research and took their lives.<ref>		The research related to Silver Bullet may have been partially or wholly destroyed by the fire which destroyed much of the Miyanos' research and took their lives.<ref>
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	'''Haibara:''' Well, the research lab that my parents worked in caught fire, and along with them, most of their research materials were burnt. I heard from the other members of the Organization that it was an accident.<br>		'''Haibara:''' Well, the research lab that my parents worked in caught fire, and along with them, most of their research materials were burnt. I heard from the other members of the Organization that it was an accident.<br>
	''Well, what I was really ordered to make was another drug, however...<!-- SPIMER EXACT TRANS FOR THIS ONE LINE-->''<br>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"		''Well, what I was really ordered to make was another drug, however...<!-- SPIMER EXACT TRANS FOR THIS ONE LINE-->''<br>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"
	</ref> If some of it survived, it is possible that Shiho Miyano incorporated it into one of her modern projects. At the current time, it is still unstated how [[Silver Bullet]], [[APTX 4869]], and any other research projects of the Black Organization are related to one another.		</ref> If some of it survived, it is possible that Shiho Miyano incorporated it into one of her modern projects. At the current time, it is still unstated how [[Silver Bullet]], APTX 4869, and any other research projects of the Black Organization are related to one another.

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	"Silver Bullet" is the name given to a mysterious drug created by [[Elena Miyano]] and [[Atsushi Miyano]] for the [[Black Organization]].		"Silver Bullet" is the name given to a mysterious drug created by [[Elena Miyano]] and [[Atsushi Miyano]] for the [[Black Organization]].

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	* [[APTX 4869]]		* [[APTX 4869]]
	* [[Prototype antidote]]		* [[Prototype antidote]]
			* [[Unsolved Mysteries]]

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	[[File:702 e.png\|thumb\|right\|200px\|Haibara remembering Elena's tapes. The tape for her 18th birthday revealed the existence of "Silver Bullet". Tape's contents were revealed between two flashbacks.]]		[[File:702 e.png\|thumb\|right\|200px\|Haibara remembering Elena's tapes. The tape for her 18th birthday revealed the existence of "Silver Bullet". Tape's contents were revealed between two flashbacks.]]
	"Silver Bullet" is the name given to a mysterious drug created by [[Elena Miyano]] and [[Atsushi Miyano]] for the [[Black Organization]].		"'''Silver Bullet'''" is the name given to a mysterious drug created by [[Elena Miyano]] and [[Atsushi Miyano]] for the [[Black Organization]].

	== Background ==		== Background ==
	In a tape left for Shiho<ref>Bathroom Murder Case (Manga: [[Volume 41#Bathroom Murder Case\|423-425]]; Anime: [[Hidden Bathroom Secret\|340-341]])</ref>, Elena reveals she had been working on "a truly terrifying drug" the Miyano parents called the ''Silver Bullet''.<ref>Mystery Train (Manga: [[Volume 78#Mystery Train\|821, 823-824]]; Anime: [[The Jet-Black Mystery Train\|702, 704]])</ref> It was something incredible enough that Elena said they were "putting their hopes on it",<ref name=821p7>Manga Chapter 821, pg 7: "Mystery Train 「Junction」"</ref> and Elena's lab mates had taken to calling it "a dream drug". It was important enough that Elena and Atsushi had to leave behind [[Shiho Miyano\|Shiho]] and [[Akemi Miyano\|Akemi]] in order to complete the drug.<ref name=821p7/>		In a cassette tape left for Shiho<ref>Bathroom Murder Case (Manga: [[Volume 41#Bathroom Murder Case\|423-425]]; Anime: [[Hidden Bathroom Secret\|340-341]])</ref>, Elena reveals she had been working on "a truly terrifying drug" the Miyano parents called the ''Silver Bullet''.<ref>Mystery Train (Manga: [[Volume 78#Mystery Train\|821, 823-824]]; Anime: [[The Jet-Black Mystery Train\|702, 704]])</ref> It was something incredible enough that Elena said they were "putting their hopes on it",<ref name=821p7>Manga Chapter 821, pg 7: "Mystery Train 「Junction」"</ref> and Elena's lab mates had taken to calling it "a dream drug". It was important enough that Elena and Atsushi had to leave behind [[Shiho Miyano\|Shiho]] and [[Akemi Miyano\|Akemi]] in order to complete the drug.<ref name=821p7/>

	After thinking about this message left by Elena, [[Ai Haibara]] ~~expresses her resentment that she had only later realized that~~ the drug ~~was~~ something that should have never been made.<ref name=821p7/>		After thinking about this message left by Elena, [[Ai Haibara]] regrets making the drug and thinks it is something that should have never been made.<ref name=821p7/>

	The research related to Silver Bullet may have been partially or wholly destroyed by a fire which destroyed much of the Miyanos' research and ~~apparently~~ took their lives.<ref>'''Haibara:''' And the fact that <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Kohji Haneda]]'s] name was on the [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869_Victims\|list of victims]] who were given [[APTX 4869]], I'd say there's a good chance that [[Asaka]] was one of the members of the Black Organization!<br>		The research related to Silver Bullet may have been partially or wholly destroyed by the fire which destroyed much of the Miyanos' research and took their lives.<ref>
	~~'''Conan:''' I don't get it. Kohji Haneda was killed 17 years ago. Then why is his name under mine in the list?<br>~~
	~~'''Haibara:''' Perhaps the person who compiled the list wasn't going by chronological order. Maybe it was sorted by blood type or something.<br~~>
	'''Conan:''' Wait a minute, so the drug that I was forced to take existed 17 years ago? And you are its creator? How old are you really?<br>		'''Conan:''' Wait a minute, so the drug that I was forced to take existed 17 years ago? And you are its creator? How old are you really?<br>
	'''Haibara:''' How rude. I've told you before. I am 18 now. Perhaps it was an early prototype of a drug made by my parents. The information for the drug that I created was mostly taken from the burnt remains of the data that my parents left behind.<br>		'''Haibara:''' How rude. I've told you before. I am 18 now. Perhaps it was an early prototype of a drug made by my parents. The information for the drug that I created was mostly taken from the burnt remains of the data that my parents left behind.<br>
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	'''Haibara:''' Well, the research lab that my parents worked in caught fire, and along with them, most of their research materials were burnt. I heard from the other members of the Organization that it was an accident.<br>		'''Haibara:''' Well, the research lab that my parents worked in caught fire, and along with them, most of their research materials were burnt. I heard from the other members of the Organization that it was an accident.<br>
	''Well, what I was really ordered to make was another drug, however...<!-- SPIMER EXACT TRANS FOR THIS ONE LINE-->''<br>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"		''Well, what I was really ordered to make was another drug, however...<!-- SPIMER EXACT TRANS FOR THIS ONE LINE-->''<br>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"
	</ref> If some of it survived, it is possible that Shiho Miyano ~~may have~~ incorporated it into one of her modern projects. At the current time, it is still unstated how [[Silver Bullet]], [[APTX 4869]], and any other research projects of the Black Organization are related to one another.		</ref> If some of it survived, it is possible that Shiho Miyano incorporated it into one of her modern projects. At the current time, it is still unstated how [[Silver Bullet]], [[APTX 4869]], and any other research projects of the Black Organization are related to one another.

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	It is unclear whether Silver Bullet is the Miyano parents' personal nickname for what is currently called [[APTX 4869]], or if it was a closely related project they developed in parallel. Whatever the case, the Miyanos' Silver Bullet drug and Shiho's APTX 4869 are probably closely linked if not the same in-development drug.		It is unclear whether Silver Bullet is the Miyano parents' personal nickname for what is currently called [[APTX 4869]], or if it was a closely related project they developed in parallel. Whatever the case, the Miyanos' Silver Bullet drug and Shiho's APTX 4869 are probably closely linked if not the same in-development drug.

	Haibara took over her parents' research after they died by reconstructing their work from surviving fragments of a lab fire which ~~supposedly~~ killed her parents.<ref>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"</ref> One of these projects was the [[APTX 4869]] project. The proof some version of APTX 4869 existed in the Miyano parents' time lies in a [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869 Victims\|~~death~~ list]] which includes the name of [[Kohji Haneda\|a man]] killed with the drug [[Case from 17 years ago\|17 years prior]] to the current timeline. Because Shiho had to reconstruct her parents' research from the fragments that survived, intentionally or unintentionally, it is possible that some of what the Miyanos called the [[Silver Bullet]] became incorporated into Shiho's modern version of [[APTX 4869]].		Haibara took over her parents' research after they died by reconstructing their work from surviving fragments of a lab fire which killed her parents.<ref>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"</ref> One of these projects was the [[APTX 4869]] project. The proof that some version of APTX 4869 existed in the Miyano parents' time lies in a [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869 Victims\|victims list]] which includes the name of [[Kohji Haneda\|a man]] killed with the drug [[Case from 17 years ago\|17 years prior]] to the current timeline. Because Shiho had to reconstruct her parents' research from the fragments that survived, intentionally or unintentionally, it is possible that some of what the Miyanos called the [[Silver Bullet]] became incorporated into Shiho's modern version of [[APTX 4869]].

	Regardless of what the parents' version of APTX 4869 was intended for, those ~~characters~~ who know about the shrinking side effect of Shiho's modern version of APTX 4869 have a tendency to compare it to the Miyanos' research. After watching Haibara shrink, Pisco, who knew about the project the Miyanos worked on, commented that Shiho's parents would be proud of the progress Shiho had made on the drug.<ref name=V24-11p9>Manga [[Volume 24]], File 11, page 9: "The White World"</ref> ~~During her recollection of the tapes,~~ Haibara was holding and considering the antidote to APTX 4869. She then regrets ~~that she didn't understand~~ the drug ~~was something that should have never been made~~, strongly implying she had worked on the same drug as well.<ref name=821p7/> Lastly, [[Vermouth]], who opposed the Miyanos' research seems to have transposed her distaste onto Shiho's research and Shiho herself.<ref>"If you [Shiho] want to blame someone, blame your parents who took over this foolish research." Episode 345</ref>		Regardless of what the parents' version of APTX 4869 was intended for, those who know about the shrinking side effect of Shiho's modern version of APTX 4869 have a tendency to compare it to the Miyanos' research. After watching Haibara shrink, Pisco, who knew about the project the Miyanos worked on, commented that Shiho's parents would be proud of the progress Shiho had made on the drug.<ref name=V24-11p9>Manga [[Volume 24]], File 11, page 9: "The White World"</ref> As Haibara was holding and considering taking the antidote to APTX 4869, she thinks back to the tapes. She then regrets having developed the drug, strongly implying she had worked on the same drug as well.<ref name=821p7/> Lastly, [[Vermouth]], who opposed the Miyanos' research, seems to have transposed her distaste onto Shiho's research and Shiho herself.<ref>"If you [Shiho] want to blame someone, blame your parents who took over this foolish research." Episode 345</ref>

	It is also notable that Vermouth has been a part of the Black Organization long enough to have heard the Miyanos use the name "Silver Bullet",<ref>Vermouth has been in the Organization at least 20 years dated by when she assassinated Jodie's father which is more time than the theoretical maximum 18 years the tapes could be recorded -- dated to Shiho's conception.</ref> and may have given Conan the same nickname in reference to his deaged state caused by the drug.		It is also notable that Vermouth has been a part of the Black Organization long enough to have heard the Miyanos use the name "Silver Bullet",<ref>Vermouth has been in the Organization at least 20 years dated by when she assassinated Jodie's father which is more time than the theoretical maximum 18 years the tapes could be recorded -- dated to Shiho's conception.</ref> and may have given Conan the same nickname in reference to his deaged state caused by the drug.

	During the conversation, where Conan and Haibara discuss APTX 4869 and its connection to Kohji Haneda's death, Haibara thought "what [the organization] wanted me to make, was another drug". It is possible that the "other drug" was the intended result of the APTX 4869 research, and maybe that drug had the name 'Silver Bullet'.		During the conversation, where Conan and Haibara discuss APTX 4869 and its connection to Kohji Haneda's death, Haibara thought "what [the organization] wanted me to make, was another drug". It is possible that the "other drug" was the intended result of the APTX 4869 research, and maybe that drug had the name "Silver Bullet".

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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	[[File:702 e.png\|thumb\|right\|200px\|Haibara ~~remebering~~ Elena's tapes. The tape for her 18th birthday revealed the existence of "Silver Bullet". Tape's contents were revealed between two flashbacks.]]		[[File:702 e.png\|thumb\|right\|200px\|Haibara remembering Elena's tapes. The tape for her 18th birthday revealed the existence of "Silver Bullet". Tape's contents were revealed between two flashbacks.]]
	"Silver Bullet" is the name given to a mysterious drug created by [[Elena Miyano]] and [[Atsushi Miyano]] for the [[Black Organization]].		"Silver Bullet" is the name given to a mysterious drug created by [[Elena Miyano]] and [[Atsushi Miyano]] for the [[Black Organization]].

	== Background ==		== Background ==
	~~[[Elena Miyano#Elena.27s Mysterious Death\|~~In a tape left for Shiho]]<ref>Bathroom Murder Case (Manga: [[Volume 41#Bathroom Murder Case\|423-425]]; Anime: [[Hidden Bathroom Secret\|340-341]])</ref>, Elena reveals she had been working on "a truly terrifying drug" the Miyano parents called the ''Silver Bullet''.<ref>Mystery Train (Manga: [[Volume 78#Mystery Train\|821, 823-824]]; Anime: [[The Jet-Black Mystery Train\|702, 704]])</ref> It was something incredible enough that Elena said they were "putting their hopes on it",<ref name=821p7>Manga Chapter 821, pg 7: "Mystery Train 「Junction」"</ref> and Elena's lab mates had taken to calling it "a dream drug". It was important enough that Elena and Atsushi had to leave behind [[Shiho Miyano\|Shiho]] and [[Akemi Miyano\|Akemi]] in order to complete the drug.<ref name=821p7/>		In a tape left for Shiho<ref>Bathroom Murder Case (Manga: [[Volume 41#Bathroom Murder Case\|423-425]]; Anime: [[Hidden Bathroom Secret\|340-341]])</ref>, Elena reveals she had been working on "a truly terrifying drug" the Miyano parents called the ''Silver Bullet''.<ref>Mystery Train (Manga: [[Volume 78#Mystery Train\|821, 823-824]]; Anime: [[The Jet-Black Mystery Train\|702, 704]])</ref> It was something incredible enough that Elena said they were "putting their hopes on it",<ref name=821p7>Manga Chapter 821, pg 7: "Mystery Train 「Junction」"</ref> and Elena's lab mates had taken to calling it "a dream drug". It was important enough that Elena and Atsushi had to leave behind [[Shiho Miyano\|Shiho]] and [[Akemi Miyano\|Akemi]] in order to complete the drug.<ref name=821p7/>

	After thinking about this message left by Elena, [[Ai Haibara]] expresses her resentment that she had only later realized that the drug was something that should have never been made.<ref name=821p7/>		After thinking about this message left by Elena, [[Ai Haibara]] expresses her resentment that she had only later realized that the drug was something that should have never been made.<ref name=821p7/>

	The research related to Silver Bullet may have partially or wholly destroyed by a fire which destroyed much of the Miyanos' research and apparently took their lives.<ref>'''Haibara:''' And the fact that <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Kohji Haneda]]'s] name was on the [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869_Victims\|list of victims]] who were given [[APTX 4869]], I'd say there's a good chance that [[Asaka]] was one of the members of the Black Organization!<br>		The research related to Silver Bullet may have been partially or wholly destroyed by a fire which destroyed much of the Miyanos' research and apparently took their lives.<ref>'''Haibara:''' And the fact that <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Kohji Haneda]]'s] name was on the [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869_Victims\|list of victims]] who were given [[APTX 4869]], I'd say there's a good chance that [[Asaka]] was one of the members of the Black Organization!<br>
	'''Conan:''' I don't get it. Kohji Haneda was killed 17 years ago. Then why is his name under mine in the list?<br>		'''Conan:''' I don't get it. Kohji Haneda was killed 17 years ago. Then why is his name under mine in the list?<br>
	'''Haibara:''' Perhaps the person who compiled the list wasn't going by chronological order. Maybe it was sorted by blood type or something.<br>		'''Haibara:''' Perhaps the person who compiled the list wasn't going by chronological order. Maybe it was sorted by blood type or something.<br>
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	'''Haibara:''' Well, the research lab that my parents worked in caught fire, and along with them, most of their research materials were burnt. I heard from the other members of the Organization that it was an accident.<br>		'''Haibara:''' Well, the research lab that my parents worked in caught fire, and along with them, most of their research materials were burnt. I heard from the other members of the Organization that it was an accident.<br>
	''Well, what I was really ordered to make was another drug, however...<!-- SPIMER EXACT TRANS FOR THIS ONE LINE-->''<br>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"		''Well, what I was really ordered to make was another drug, however...<!-- SPIMER EXACT TRANS FOR THIS ONE LINE-->''<br>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"
	</ref> If some of it survived, it's possible that Shiho Miyano may have incorporated it into one of her modern projects. At the current time, it is still unstated how [[Silver Bullet]], [[APTX 4869]], and any other research projects the Black Organization are related to one another.		</ref> If some of it survived, it is possible that Shiho Miyano may have incorporated it into one of her modern projects. At the current time, it is still unstated how [[Silver Bullet]], [[APTX 4869]], and any other research projects of the Black Organization are related to one another.

	== Quotes ==		== Quotes ==
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	It is unclear whether Silver Bullet is the Miyano parents' personal nickname for what is currently called [[APTX 4869]], or if it was a closely related project they developed in parallel. Whatever the case, the Miyanos' Silver Bullet drug and Shiho's APTX 4869 are probably closely linked if not the same in-development drug.		It is unclear whether Silver Bullet is the Miyano parents' personal nickname for what is currently called [[APTX 4869]], or if it was a closely related project they developed in parallel. Whatever the case, the Miyanos' Silver Bullet drug and Shiho's APTX 4869 are probably closely linked if not the same in-development drug.

	Haibara took over her parents' research after they died by reconstructing their work from surviving fragments ~~after~~ a lab fire which supposedly killed her parents.<ref>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"</ref> One of these projects was the [[APTX 4869]] project. The proof some version of APTX 4869 existed in the Miyano parents' time lies in a [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869 Victims\|death list]] which includes the name of [[Kohji Haneda\|a man]] killed with the drug [[Case from 17 years ago\|17 years prior]] to the current timeline. Because Shiho had to reconstruct her parents' research from the fragments that survived, intentionally or unintentionally, it's possible that some of what the Miyanos called the [[Silver Bullet]] became incorporated into Shiho's modern version of [[APTX 4869]].		Haibara took over her parents' research after they died by reconstructing their work from surviving fragments of a lab fire which supposedly killed her parents.<ref>Manga [[Volume 89]], File 11 (948), Pages 3-4: "The Clenched Scissors"</ref> One of these projects was the [[APTX 4869]] project. The proof some version of APTX 4869 existed in the Miyano parents' time lies in a [[List of Black Organization related characters#APTX 4869 Victims\|death list]] which includes the name of [[Kohji Haneda\|a man]] killed with the drug [[Case from 17 years ago\|17 years prior]] to the current timeline. Because Shiho had to reconstruct her parents' research from the fragments that survived, intentionally or unintentionally, it is possible that some of what the Miyanos called the [[Silver Bullet]] became incorporated into Shiho's modern version of [[APTX 4869]].

	Regardless of what the parents' version of APTX 4869 was intended for, those characters who know about the shrinking side effect of Shiho's modern version of APTX 4869 have a tendency to compare it to the Miyanos' research. After watching Haibara shrink, Pisco, who knew about the project the Miyanos worked on, commented that Shiho's parents would be proud of the progress Shiho had made on the drug.<ref name=V24-11p9>Manga [[Volume 24]], File 11, page 9: "The White World"</ref> During her recollection of the tapes, Haibara was holding and considering the antidote to APTX 4869. She then regrets that she didn't understand the drug was something that should have never been made, strongly implying she had worked on the same drug as well.<ref name=821p7/> Lastly, [[Vermouth]], who opposed the Miyanos' research seems to have transposed her distaste onto Shiho's research and Shiho herself.<ref>"If you [Shiho] want to blame someone, blame your parents who took over this foolish research." Episode 345</ref>		Regardless of what the parents' version of APTX 4869 was intended for, those characters who know about the shrinking side effect of Shiho's modern version of APTX 4869 have a tendency to compare it to the Miyanos' research. After watching Haibara shrink, Pisco, who knew about the project the Miyanos worked on, commented that Shiho's parents would be proud of the progress Shiho had made on the drug.<ref name=V24-11p9>Manga [[Volume 24]], File 11, page 9: "The White World"</ref> During her recollection of the tapes, Haibara was holding and considering the antidote to APTX 4869. She then regrets that she didn't understand the drug was something that should have never been made, strongly implying she had worked on the same drug as well.<ref name=821p7/> Lastly, [[Vermouth]], who opposed the Miyanos' research seems to have transposed her distaste onto Shiho's research and Shiho herself.<ref>"If you [Shiho] want to blame someone, blame your parents who took over this foolish research." Episode 345</ref>
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	It is also notable that Vermouth has been a part of the Black Organization long enough to have heard the Miyanos use the name "Silver Bullet",<ref>Vermouth has been in the Organization at least 20 years dated by when she assassinated Jodie's father which is more time than the theoretical maximum 18 years the tapes could be recorded -- dated to Shiho's conception.</ref> and may have given Conan the same nickname in reference to his deaged state caused by the drug.		It is also notable that Vermouth has been a part of the Black Organization long enough to have heard the Miyanos use the name "Silver Bullet",<ref>Vermouth has been in the Organization at least 20 years dated by when she assassinated Jodie's father which is more time than the theoretical maximum 18 years the tapes could be recorded -- dated to Shiho's conception.</ref> and may have given Conan the same nickname in reference to his deaged state caused by the drug.

	During the conversation, where Conan and Haibara discuss APTX 4869 and ~~it's~~ connection to Kohji Haneda's death, Haibara thought 'what ~~they (~~the organization) wanted me to make, was another drug'. ~~Its~~ possible that the 'other drug' was the intended result of the APTX 4869 research, and maybe that drug had the name 'Silver Bullet'.		During the conversation, where Conan and Haibara discuss APTX 4869 and its connection to Kohji Haneda's death, Haibara thought "what [the organization] wanted me to make, was another drug". It is possible that the "other drug" was the intended result of the APTX 4869 research, and maybe that drug had the name 'Silver Bullet'.

	== See also ==		== See also ==