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Cloudstrife9999: /* Illogical and Irrational Behavior */

2020-05-06T19:39:34Z

Illogical and Irrational Behavior

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	=== Illogical and ~~Irrational Behavior~~ ===		=== Illogical and irrational behavior ===
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			=== Illogical and Irrational Behavior ===
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	=== Plot progresses by coincidental encounters instead of chasing leads ===		=== Plot progresses by coincidental encounters instead of chasing leads ===

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-There have been many situations where allied characters know information that would be extremely helpful to the others and would prevent unfortunate situations, but the characters keep it to themselves. This often catches many readers unfamiliar with Gosho's style off guard because they assume that the intelligent characters would exercise common sense and try to work together effectively. One of Gosho's favorite ways of creating conflict and crisis is by having characters withhold crucial information from the one who needs it which then leads to a negative consequence. Pragmatically, it means that the reader cannot assume one character has told his teammates about a major event or obvious threat unless explicitly told they shared information. Similarly, the reader cannot expect characters to become more open to sharing even after experiencing a negative consequence. This applies mostly to arc mysteries, but occasionally appears when there are two or more detectives working on a single case.
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185.93.228.10: /* Lack of information sharing */

2020-05-06T00:10:03Z

Lack of information sharing

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	* [[Conan]] and [[Shuichi Akai]] are especially reticent about [[Black Organization]]-related events. It is extremely common for them not to share suspicions or sightings with each other or anyone else.		* [[Conan]] and [[Shuichi Akai]] are especially reticent about [[Black Organization]]-related events. It is extremely common for them not to share suspicions or sightings with each other or anyone else.
	:*Conan failed to mention suspicions about [[Vermouth]] to [[Haibara]] and [[Agasa]] which left them exposed to her and the FBI's machinations. He also failed to notify Haibara about [[Okiya]] or [[Bourbon]].		:*Conan failed to mention suspicions about [[Vermouth]] to [[Haibara]] and [[Agasa]] which left them exposed to her and the FBI's machinations. He also failed to notify Haibara about [[Okiya]] or [[Bourbon]].
	:*Akai didn't tell Conan he witnessed someone impersonating him at Teito bank and that he was tailing the FBI agents out of concern until Conan discovered it for himself. Similarly, Akai didn't notify Conan that [[Masumi Sera]] is his sister after he found out she had become involved in various events. He also didn't notify Conan about his suspicions that Bourbon was a member of the Secret Police. </spoiler>		:*Akai didn't tell Conan he witnessed someone impersonating him at Teito bank and that he was tailing the FBI agents out of concern until Conan discovered it for himself. Similarly, Akai didn't notify Conan that [[Masumi Sera]] is his sister after he found out she had become involved in various events. He also didn't notify Conan about his suspicions that Bourbon was a member of the Secret Police.
			* [[Haibara]] is notably reticent about her past, even though sharing it with [[Conan]] would aid him in the fight against the [[Black Organization]].
			* [[Rei Furuya]] is reticent about many exclusive and potentially helpful pieces of intel with [[Conan]]. Frist, his past - especially his connection with [[Elena Miyano]]. Second, his connection with [[Kuroda]]. Third, all the detailed information about the [[Black Organization]] that he knows. Such information has allowed him to blackmail [[Veremouth]]. As such, it is assumed to be able to cause a potential breakthrough, should [[Conan]] get to know it.</spoiler>

	The lack of information sharing also applies to the antagonists. The Black Organization often fails to share information among its ranks. Sometimes the information sharing that takes place seems especially arbitrary.		The lack of information sharing also applies to the antagonists. The Black Organization often fails to share information among its ranks. Sometimes the information sharing that takes place seems especially arbitrary.
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	:*For a long time, Bourbon wasn't allowed access to the recording of Akai's death even though the boss had approved of a mission where he was to investigate whether Akai was truly dead. </spoiler>		*[[Gin]], [[Vodka]], [[Chianti]] and [[Korn]] did not know for a long time about [[Bourbon]] disguising himself as [[Scar Akai]], until [[Vermouth]] hinted that to them. As a result, [[Bourbon]] was almost shot, and [[Kir]] accused of betrayal.
			*For a long time, Bourbon wasn't allowed access to the recording of Akai's death even though the boss had approved of a mission where he was to investigate whether Akai was truly dead. </spoiler>

	=== Plot progresses by coincidental encounters instead of chasing leads ===		=== Plot progresses by coincidental encounters instead of chasing leads ===

185.93.228.10: /* Lack of recurring character death */

2020-05-05T23:53:50Z

Lack of recurring character death

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	== General ==		== General ==
	=== Lack of recurring character death ===		=== Lack of recurring character death ===
	No recurring character --one who has appeared in person alive for more than one case-- has been killed as of chapter ~~925~~. Any recurring characters who have died did so in their first case and reappeared in flashbacks, were stated to be dead from the outset, or faked their death.		No recurring character --one who has appeared in person alive for more than one case-- has been killed as of chapter 1054. Any recurring characters who have died did so in their first case and reappeared in flashbacks, were stated to be dead from the outset, or faked their death.

	=== Lack of information sharing ===		=== Lack of information sharing ===

Chekhov MacGuffin: /* Arc Mystery */ Wanna squash a misconception

2017-06-13T02:11:48Z

Arc Mystery: Wanna squash a misconception

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	=== Old characters introduced well before an arc starts aren't usually major suspects ===		=== Old characters introduced well before an arc starts aren't usually major suspects ===
	To date, all the significant suspects in arc mysteries were introduced during their arc or just before. When Conan suspects an older character from an earlier arc, the suspicion is usually fleeting or disqualified immediately. Practically speaking, newer characters are the most suspicious.		To date, all the significant suspects in arc mysteries were introduced during their arc or just before. When Conan suspects an older character from an earlier arc, the suspicion is usually fleeting or disqualified immediately. Practically speaking, newer characters are the most suspicious.

			=== Minor points of note ===
			* Historically, the inner thoughts of still-unknown mystery characters, protagonists and antagonists alike, have been revealed to the reader at various points.

	= Romance Related Tropes =		= Romance Related Tropes =

Chekhov MacGuffin: /* The culprit is most often one of three suspects */

2017-06-13T02:04:09Z

The culprit is most often one of three suspects

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	== Regular Mystery ==		== Regular Mystery ==
	Most regular cases (with the first cases being much more variable) are 3-6 chapters long, with the last chapter dedicated to the solution. There are usually 3 primary suspects per case.		Most regular cases (with the first cases being much more variable) are 3-6 chapters long, with the last chapter dedicated to the solution. There are usually 3 primary suspects per case.

			=== The culprit is most often one of three suspects ===
			Typical cases present three primary suspects for consideration. The extreme majority of the time (>95%), the culprit is one of these individuals and not one of the witnesses, investigatory police, bystanders, etc. In cases where the culprit is not one of the three suspects, one of the suspects is typically associated with the crime, as an accomplice for instance.<ref>Usually cases where the suspect is hiding the culprit, e.g. the twins case</ref>

	=== Most cases are murder cases ===		=== Most cases are murder cases ===
	About three out every four cases involve a murder.<ref>http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3518&start=990#p862055</ref> The remainder include kidnappings, robbery, heists, hostage taking, codes, and more benign misunderstandings. Of the major groups that Conan associates with, the [[Detective boys]] are the most likely to encounter cases that are not murder (although murder cases are very common for the Detective Boys).		About three out every four cases involve a murder.<ref>http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3518&start=990#p862055</ref> The remainder include kidnappings, robbery, heists, hostage taking, codes, and more benign misunderstandings. Of the major groups that Conan associates with, the [[Detective boys]] are the most likely to encounter cases that are not murder (although murder cases are very common for the Detective Boys).

	Cases where an apparent murder turns out to be a suicide are relatively rare in Detective Conan~~, probably less than 1 for every 25 regular murder cases~~. Accidental death is also fairly rare. However, it is not unusual for a culprit to be motivated by a misunderstanding of a past death, thinking a suicide was a murder for instance.		Cases where an apparent murder turns out to be a suicide are relatively rare in Detective Conan (<5%). Accidental death is also fairly rare. However, it is not unusual for a culprit to be motivated by a misunderstanding of a past death, thinking a suicide was a murder for instance.

	=== Murder motives are usually personal ===		=== Murder motives are usually personal ===

Chekhov MacGuffin: /* Case tricks are often based on gimmicks from science demonstrations and the like (Bourbon arc +) */ grammar

2017-06-11T07:10:20Z

Case tricks are often based on gimmicks from science demonstrations and the like (Bourbon arc +): grammar

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	=== Case tricks are often based on gimmicks from science demonstrations and the like (Bourbon arc +) ===		=== Case tricks are often based on gimmicks from science demonstrations and the like (Bourbon arc +) ===
	Starting in the [[Timeline\|Bourbon arc]], case tricks are increasingly often ~~been~~ based on gimmicks which have been filmed for science or physics demonstrations, or are parts of sleights of hand used for magic tricks, etc. The crime setup and the suspects are designed to make use of the gimmick. Knowing these factoids or searching for videos of gimmicks based on the circumstances for the crime scene is often useful.		Starting in the [[Timeline\|Bourbon arc]], case tricks are increasingly often based on gimmicks which have been filmed for science or physics demonstrations, or are parts of sleights of hand used for magic tricks, etc. The crime setup and the suspects are designed to make use of the gimmick. Knowing these factoids or searching for videos of gimmicks based on the circumstances for the crime scene is often useful.

	== Kaitou Kid Heist ==		== Kaitou Kid Heist ==

Chekhov MacGuffin: /* Regular Mystery */ science demo cases deserve mention.

2017-06-11T07:08:22Z

Regular Mystery: science demo cases deserve mention.

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	=== Most case culprits vanish from the story when they are caught ===		=== Most case culprits vanish from the story when they are caught ===
	Virtually all culprits, after being arrested by law enforcement, disappear from the story. Occasionally the sentencing or futures of the more sympathetic culprits are described at the end of the case. Most exceptions to this rule, where the actual culprit reappears or is discussed in a later case, are connected to plot relevant events or major organizations.		Virtually all culprits, after being arrested by law enforcement, disappear from the story. Occasionally the sentencing or futures of the more sympathetic culprits are described at the end of the case. Most exceptions to this rule, where the actual culprit reappears or is discussed in a later case, are connected to plot relevant events or major organizations.

			=== Case tricks are often based on gimmicks from science demonstrations and the like (Bourbon arc +) ===
			Starting in the [[Timeline\|Bourbon arc]], case tricks are increasingly often been based on gimmicks which have been filmed for science or physics demonstrations, or are parts of sleights of hand used for magic tricks, etc. The crime setup and the suspects are designed to make use of the gimmick. Knowing these factoids or searching for videos of gimmicks based on the circumstances for the crime scene is often useful.

	== Kaitou Kid Heist ==		== Kaitou Kid Heist ==

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2017-05-02T03:22:08Z

Kaitou Kid Heist

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	Kaitou Kid has also disguised as the following characters, but not for a heist:		Kaitou Kid has also disguised as the following characters, but not for a heist:
	* Shiho Miyano: [[The Jet-Black Mystery Train]		* Shiho Miyano: [[The Jet-Black Mystery Train]]
	</spoiler>		</spoiler>