Gin and Sherry - Revision history

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 * [[Gin]]
 * [[Shiho Miyano]]
 == References ==

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 ==== Conan Drill ====
-A more official confirmation they may have had a relationship was given in the official Detective Conan guidebook Conan Drill. On [[https://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/File:ConanDrill239.jpg page 239]], there is a diagram of the relationships between various Black Organization members. Gin's feelings towards Shiho were listed as "abnormal attachment".<ref>異常な執着</ref> and her feelings for him were "hatred"<ref>憎しみ</ref> It also stated they may have had a love affair or relationship<ref>恋愛関係？</ref> and that perhaps Shiho and Vermouth were love rivals.<ref>恋のライバル…? Vermouth and Gin's love relationship arrow was labeled "sexual relations" (肉体関係) so if Gin was in a relationship with Shiho as well, Vermouth would have been love rivals with Shiho over Gin.</ref>
+A more official confirmation they may have had a relationship was given in the official Detective Conan guidebook Conan Drill. On [https://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/File:ConanDrill239.jpg page 239], there is a diagram of the relationships between various Black Organization members. Gin's feelings towards Shiho were listed as "abnormal attachment".<ref>異常な執着</ref> and her feelings for him were "hatred"<ref>憎しみ</ref> It also stated they may have had a love affair or relationship<ref>恋愛関係？</ref> and that perhaps Shiho and Vermouth were love rivals.<ref>恋のライバル…? Vermouth and Gin's love relationship arrow was labeled "sexual relations" (肉体関係) so if Gin was in a relationship with Shiho as well, Vermouth would have been love rivals with Shiho over Gin.</ref>
 == Gallery ==

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 ==== Conan Drill ====
-A more official confirmation they may have had a relationship was given in the official Detective Conan guidebook Conan Drill. On page 239, there is a diagram of the relationships between various Black Organization members. Gin's feelings towards Shiho were listed as "abnormal attachment".<ref>異常な執着</ref> and her feelings for him were "hatred"<ref>憎しみ</ref> It also stated they may have had a love affair or relationship<ref>恋愛関係？</ref> and that perhaps Shiho and Vermouth were love rivals.<ref>恋のライバル…? Vermouth and Gin's love relationship arrow was labeled "sexual relations" (肉体関係) so if Gin was in a relationship with Shiho as well, Vermouth would have been love rivals with Shiho over Gin.</ref>
+A more official confirmation they may have had a relationship was given in the official Detective Conan guidebook Conan Drill. On [[https://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/File:ConanDrill239.jpg page 239]], there is a diagram of the relationships between various Black Organization members. Gin's feelings towards Shiho were listed as "abnormal attachment".<ref>異常な執着</ref> and her feelings for him were "hatred"<ref>憎しみ</ref> It also stated they may have had a love affair or relationship<ref>恋愛関係？</ref> and that perhaps Shiho and Vermouth were love rivals.<ref>恋のライバル…? Vermouth and Gin's love relationship arrow was labeled "sexual relations" (肉体関係) so if Gin was in a relationship with Shiho as well, Vermouth would have been love rivals with Shiho over Gin.</ref>
 == Gallery ==

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 On his part, Gin clearly knows Shiho's personality very well as he can anticipate her movements<ref>The Pisco case. Gin's predictions were good except for Conan's involvement.</ref> despite having rather different lines of work. Gin can identify her from a single hair with conviction.
-As for Shiho, she hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met [[Pisco]] since she was a baby, she had only heard of [[Chianti]] and [[Korn]], and hadn't heard of [[Kir]]. Conan never asked about [[Tequila]]. Shiho knows [[Vermouth]] despite not being in science because Vermouth likely had a connection with [[Atsushi Miyano|Atsushi]] and [[Elena Miyano]] and their research because Vermouth doesn't seem to age. Gin is on the assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well she seems to know him given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch.
+As for Shiho, she hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met [[Pisco]] since she was a baby, she had only heard of [[Chianti]] and [[Korn]], and hadn't heard of [[Kir]]. Conan never asked about [[Tequila]]. Shiho knows [[Vermouth]] despite not being in science because Vermouth likely had a connection with [[Atsushi Miyano|Atsushi]] and [[Elena Miyano]] and their research because Vermouth doesn't seem to age. Gin is on the assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well she seems to know him given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch. She has always know that [[Renya Karasuma]] is the Black Organization head.
 === Romantic relationship ===

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 On his part, Gin clearly knows Shiho's personality very well as he can anticipate her movements<ref>The Pisco case. Gin's predictions were good except for Conan's involvement.</ref> despite having rather different lines of work. Gin can identify her from a single hair with conviction.
-As for Shiho, she hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met [[Pisco]] since she was a baby, she had only heard of [[Korn]] and [[Chianti]], and hadn't heard of [[Kir]]. Conan never asked about [[Tequila]]. Shiho knows [[Vermouth]] despite not being in science because Vermouth likely had a connection with [[Atsushi Miyano|Atsushi]] and [[Elena Miyano]] and their research because Vermouth doesn't seem to age. Gin is on the assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well she seems to know him given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch.
+As for Shiho, she hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met [[Pisco]] since she was a baby, she had only heard of [[Chianti]] and [[Korn]], and hadn't heard of [[Kir]]. Conan never asked about [[Tequila]]. Shiho knows [[Vermouth]] despite not being in science because Vermouth likely had a connection with [[Atsushi Miyano|Atsushi]] and [[Elena Miyano]] and their research because Vermouth doesn't seem to age. Gin is on the assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well she seems to know him given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch.
 === Romantic relationship ===

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 <gallery widths=180px perrow=5>
 File:Conan and Ai Promotional Pic (1).jpg|
-File:Gin imagines Shiho naked.jpg|Gin imagines Shiho Miyano naked.
+File:Gin imagines Sherry naked.png|Gin imagines Shiho Miyano naked.
 File:Gin and Sherry article picture.jpg|Anime version of Gin thinking of Sherry.
 File:Gin imagines Shiho naked (2).jpg|Gin imagines Shiho Miyano naked again.

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−	[[Gin]] and [[Shiho Miyano]] were both members of the [[Black Organization]] until Shiho escaped after he killed her older sister [[Akemi Miyano]]. Gin seems especially interested in ~~hunting~~ for the escaped Shiho while she is unusually terrified of him.	+	[[Gin]] and [[Shiho Miyano]] were both members of the [[Black Organization]] until Shiho escaped after he killed her older sister [[Akemi Miyano]]. Gin seems especially interested in the [[The Boss\|boss]]' order to hunt for the escaped Shiho, while she is unusually terrified of him.

	== Current timeline ==		== Current timeline ==

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 [[Gin]] and [[Shiho Miyano]] were both members of the [[Black Organization]] until Shiho escaped after he killed her older sister [[Akemi Miyano]]. Gin seems especially interested in hunting for the escaped Shiho while she is unusually terrified of him.
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 == Speculation ==
 It is strange that Gin and Shiho seem to know a lot about one another despite being in [[Black Organization#Organization structure and divisions|entirely different divisions of the Organization]]. They clearly have a connection outside of their professions to account for knowing each other so well.
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 As for Shiho, she hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met [[Pisco]] since she was a baby, she had only heard of [[Korn]] and [[Chianti]], and hadn't heard of [[Kir]]. Conan never asked about [[Tequila]]. Shiho knows [[Vermouth]] despite not being in science because Vermouth likely had a connection with [[Atsushi Miyano|Atsushi]] and [[Elena Miyano]] and their research because Vermouth doesn't seem to age. Gin is on the assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well she seems to know him given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch.
-=== Romantic Relationship ===
+=== Romantic relationship ===
 The events of the Haido City Hotel case<ref>Manga Volume 24, Files 7-11</ref> open the possibility that the reason they know each other so well is because Gin and Shiho had a romantic mutual relationship. In Haibara's dream, Gin describes their meeting as a reunion: "This is the end of your wanton sporting... Now, wake up from your dream... Shouldn't we celebrate our reunion with your favorite color scarlet... right, Sherry?"<ref name=238p1-3>Manga Volume 24, File 7, pgs 1-3: "A Pack of Lies"</ref> Haibara uncharacteristically yells "Don't touch me!"<ref name=238p7>Manga Volume 24, File 7, pg 7: "A Pack of Lies"</ref> when [[Ayumi Yoshida|Ayumi]] places her hand on Haibara's arm, snapping her out remembering her dream. Later, the real life Gin thinks of her naked once, looking forward to their meeting with one another. Cases later, in the Mystery Train case, he does so again.<ref name=238p18>Manga Volume 24, File 7, pg 18: "A Pack of Lies",File 820</ref>
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 == Gallery ==
-<gallery widths=185px perrow=4>
+<gallery widths=180px perrow=4>
 File:Conan and Ai Promotional Pic (1).jpg|
 File:Gin imagines Shiho naked.jpg|Gin imagines Shiho Miyano naked.

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-[[Image:Gin imagines Shiho naked.jpg|thumb|right|250px|[[Gin]] imagines [[Shiho Miyano]] naked.]]
+[[Image:Gin imagines Shiho naked.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Gin imagines Shiho Miyano naked.]]
-[[Gin]] and [[Shiho Miyano]] were both members of the Black Organization until Shiho escaped after he killed her sister [[Akemi Miyano]]. Gin seems especially interested in hunting for the escaped Shiho while she is unusually terrified of him.
+[[Gin]] and [[Shiho Miyano]] were both members of the [[Black Organization]] until Shiho escaped after he killed her older sister [[Akemi Miyano]]. Gin seems especially interested in hunting for the escaped Shiho while she is unusually terrified of him.
-==Current Timeline==
+== Current timeline ==
-[[Ai Haibara]]'s greatest fear is being caught by the Black Organization, and she is especially terrified of [[Gin]].
+[[Ai Haibara]]'s greatest fear is being caught by the [[Black Organization]], and she is especially terrified of [[Gin]].
-==Speculation==
+== Speculation ==
-[[File:M5-4.jpg|thumb|right|Anime version of Gin thinking of Sherry]]
+[[File:M5-4.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Anime version of Gin thinking of Sherry.]]
 It is strange that Gin and Shiho seem to know a lot about one another despite being in [[Black Organization#Organization structure and divisions|entirely different divisions of the Organization]]. They clearly have a connection outside of their professions to account for knowing each other so well.
-On his part, Gin clearly knows Shiho's personality very well as he can anticipate her movements<ref>The Pisco case. Gin's predictions were good except for Conan's involvement.</ref> despite having rather different lines of work. Gin can identify her from a single hair with conviction.<br>
+On his part, Gin clearly knows Shiho's personality very well as he can anticipate her movements<ref>The Pisco case. Gin's predictions were good except for Conan's involvement.</ref> despite having rather different lines of work. Gin can identify her from a single hair with conviction.
-===Romantic Relationship===
+As for Shiho, she hardly knew most of the other agents in non-science related positions. She hadn't met [[Pisco]] since she was a baby, she had only heard of [[Korn]] and [[Chianti]], and hadn't heard of [[Kir]]. Conan never asked about [[Tequila]]. Shiho knows [[Vermouth]] despite not being in science because Vermouth likely had a connection with [[Atsushi Miyano|Atsushi]] and [[Elena Miyano]] and their research because Vermouth doesn't seem to age. Gin is on the assassination side of things, so it is anomalous how well she seems to know him given how she doesn't know much about anyone else outside of the research branch.
-Furthermore, when the two of them meet on the rooftop of the Haido City Hotel, there are more suggestive exchanges. Gin purposefully chose not to do his job in the most efficient fashion -shooting Shiho in the chimney- but instead chose to make a special exception for her by waiting out for her on the snowy rooftop because killing her there would be, paraphrasing, more beautiful.<ref>Quote the whole line here</ref> She even gets into the act by thanking him, albeit sarcastically, for "waiting for her in the cold"<ref name=242p3>Manga Volume 24, File 11, pg 3: "The White World"</ref>; Shiho seems to purposefully be alluding to the stereotypic scenario of one lover waiting for another in poor climate. Gin also makes a comment about her disguise, the uniform and the glasses, being unsuitable for her, which carries an implication that he thinks there is some other outfit which would be more suitable.<ref name=242p3/>
+=== Romantic Relationship ===
 He also seemed express some sort of jealousy over that Shiho has been getting help from a 'man'. It sounds like he assumes that her rescuer is her lover.
-====Conan Drill====
+==== Conan Drill ====
-A more official confirmation they may have had a relationship was given in the official Detective Conan guidebook Conan Drill. On page 239, there is a diagram of the relationships between various Black Organization members. Gin's feelings towards Shiho were listed as "abnormal attachment"<ref>異常な執着</ref> and her feelings for him were "hatred"<ref>憎しみ</ref>. It also stated they may have had a love affair or relationship<ref>恋愛関係？</ref> and that perhaps Shiho and Vermouth were love rivals.<ref>恋のライバル…? Vermouth and Gin's love relationship arrow was labeled "sexual relations" (肉体関係) so if Gin was in a relationship with Shiho as well, Vermouth would have been love rivals with Shiho over Gin.</ref>
+A more official confirmation they may have had a relationship was given in the official Detective Conan guidebook Conan Drill. On page 239, there is a diagram of the relationships between various Black Organization members. Gin's feelings towards Shiho were listed as "abnormal attachment".<ref>異常な執着</ref> and her feelings for him were "hatred"<ref>憎しみ</ref> It also stated they may have had a love affair or relationship<ref>恋愛関係？</ref> and that perhaps Shiho and Vermouth were love rivals.<ref>恋のライバル…? Vermouth and Gin's love relationship arrow was labeled "sexual relations" (肉体関係) so if Gin was in a relationship with Shiho as well, Vermouth would have been love rivals with Shiho over Gin.</ref>
-==Gallery==
+== Gallery ==
-<gallery widths=185px>
+<gallery widths=185px perrow=4>
-Conan and Ai Promotional Pic (1).jpg
+File:Conan and Ai Promotional Pic (1).jpg|
-Gin imagines Shiho naked.jpg|Gin imagines Shiho Miyano naked.
+File:Gin imagines Shiho naked.jpg|Gin imagines Shiho Miyano naked.
-Gin and Sherry article picture.jpg|Anime version of Gin thinking of Sherry.
+File:Gin and Sherry article picture.jpg|Anime version of Gin thinking of Sherry.
-Gin imagines Shiho naked (2).jpg|Gin imagines Shiho Miyano naked... again.
+File:Gin imagines Shiho naked (2).jpg|Gin imagines Shiho Miyano naked again.
-Ai dream.jpg
+File:Ai dream.jpg|
-Sherry-getting-shot.png|Shiho shot by Gin.
+File:Sherry-getting-shot.png|Shiho shot by Gin.
-M5-3.jpg
+File:M5-3.jpg|
 </gallery>
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 * [[Shiho Miyano]]
-==References==
+== References ==
-<References/>
+<references/>
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