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== Inspector Worthington ==

Would Inspector Worthington be notable enough for inclusion? [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 03:21, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:Any character, no matter how minor they are, should be included imo. The goal would be to have the most complete resource about the world of Detective Conan. Even if it's a line or two, that couldn't hurt. :) Also, I think for now, only main (or recurring) characters should be displayed on the [[Characters]] page. But on the detailed pages, like [[Black Organization]] or [[Other Characters]], minor characters could be mentioned there.--[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 04:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::OK, sounds good. I hope to see this Wiki get more popular! Let's see how everything checks out. :D [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 05:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Here's the thing... I'm pretty sure the name "Inspector Worthington" is the name they gave Yokomizo Sango in the English dub. I haven't looked into how other Americanized names are being handled, but he should be dealt with similarly. (edit) never mind, I see that you already did that :P (/edit)--[[User:Southpaw|Southpaw]] 13:36, 12 September 2009 (EDT)

== Tokyo Police ==

I decided to go ahead and divide the "Law Enforcement" section into three sub-sections. One for the Metropolitan police, another for the Osaka police, and another for all of the rest. I figured that the one section was a little too big all by itself. Also, it to me, makes everything look a little bit more organized. If anyone disagrees, feel free to revert. ;) [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 22:01, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:It's alright. Originally, I planned to only show the main/important characters on the Characters page then show all of them in their respective sections (e.g. [[Law Enforcement]]) but I think it's still ok to show them all right away: it would be a bit like the [[Anime]] page as it is now where all the episodes are shown right away; can be very handy. Not to mention there aren't nearly as many recurring characters as episodes. :) --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 12:00, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Character images to be updated ==

This is part of an internal [[Detective_Conan_Wiki:Projects#Specific_tasks|project task]] scheduled to be completed on March 1st, 2010.

=== Required ===

* Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya (100px and 60px) '''DONE'''
* Genta Kojima (100px and 60px) '''DONE'''
* Heiji Hattori (100px and 60px) '''DONE'''
* Kazuha Toyama (100px and 60px) '''DONE'''
* Juzo Megure (100px and 60px) '''DONE'''
* Ninzaburo Shiratori (100px and 60px) '''DONE'''
* Sango Yokomizo (60px) '''DONE'''
* Jodie Starling - not real good quality - (100px and 60px) '''DONE'''
* Gin (100px and 60px)
* Vodka (100px)
* Ai Haibara - was never a big fan of that image - (100px and 60px)
* Sumiko Kobayashi - I hate this one - (100px and 60px)
* Yusaku Kudo (60px and 100px)
* Heizo Hattori (60px and 100px)
* Chianti (60px)

=== Optional ===

* Miwako Sato (100px and 60px). ''Reason'': Using some non-anime stock image '''DONE'''
* Conan Edogawa (100px and 60px). ''Reason'': It's alright but maybe kinda looks a little colorless?

=== Leave it to me ===
LEAVE IT TO ME!! ^^ I'll get to work on replacing all of those. [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 02:12, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

== Character image checklist ==

I will bold the character's who have new pictures.

===Protagonists===
* '''Shinichi Kudo'''
* '''Conan Edogawa'''
* '''Ran Mouri'''
* '''Kogoro Mouri'''

===Detective Boys===
* '''Ayumi Yoshida'''
* '''Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya'''
* '''Genta Kojima'''
* '''Ai Haibara'''
* '''Sumiko Kobayashi'''

===Family and Friends===
* '''Yusaku Kudo'''
* '''Yukiko Kudo'''
* '''Eri Kisaki'''
* '''Hiroshi Agasa'''
* '''Sonoko Suzuki'''
* '''Heiji Hattori'''
* '''Kazuha Toyama'''
* '''Eisuke Hondou'''
* '''Subaru Okiya'''
* '''Genji Kojima'''

===Law Enforcement===

====Tokyo Metropolitan Police District====
* '''Juzo Megure'''
* '''Miwako Sato'''
* '''Wataru Takagi'''
* '''Ninzaburo Shiratori'''
* '''Yumi Miyamoto'''
* '''Isshin Chiba'''
* '''Ginzo Nakamori'''
* '''Officer Tome'''
* '''Kiyonaga Matsumoto'''
* '''Jinpei Matsuda'''
* '''Inspector Yuminaga'''

====Osaka Police District====
* '''Goro Otaki'''
* '''Detective Toyama'''
* '''Heizo Hattori'''

====Other police districts====
* '''Sango Yokomizo'''
* '''Misao Yamamura'''
* '''Jugo Yokomizo'''
* '''Kansuke Yamato'''
* '''Yui Uehara'''

===Black Organization===
* '''Gin'''
* '''Vodka'''
* '''Sharon Vineyard'''
* '''Chianti'''
* '''Korn'''
* '''Hidemi Hondou'''
* '''Tequila'''

===F.B.I.===
* '''Jodie Starling'''
* '''James Black'''
* '''Shuichi Akai'''

===Others===
* '''Kaitou Kid'''
* '''Akemi Miyano'''
* '''Aoko Nakamori'''
* '''Makoto Kyogoku'''
* '''Sagura Hakuba'''
* '''Tomoaki Araide'''
* '''Yoko Okino'''
* '''Shizuka Hattori'''
* '''Azusa Enomoto'''
* '''Jirokichi Suzuki'''
* '''Misae Yamamura'''
* '''Kichiro Numabuchi'''

All others are certainly welcome to add other character to this list as character pages are created, as well as help me out with the images. Remember, we are trying to replace the old images taken from other websites, with images of our own. :) [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 03:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

== Character pages checklist ==

This is a checklist of character pages that have yet to be created.

* Seiji Asai - Culprit in Moonlight Piano Sonata Case, other than Kaitou Kid and the Black Organization he is the only culprit to ever escape Shinichi (although via suicide).
* Kamen Yaiba - TV superhero enjoyed by the Detective Boys (and Chiba).
* Gomera - Movie monster enjoyed by the Detective Boys.
* Night Baron - The protagonist of Yusaku Kudo's novels.
* Hideo Akagi & Naoki Uemura - Soccer players from Tokyo Spirits, involved in a case early in the series.
* Ryusuke Higo - Soccer player from Big Osaka and Hideo Akagi's rival. Ai follows his career closely.
* Samizu Kichiemon - Edo Period mechanic frequently mentioned and referenced throughout the series.
* Shintaro Chaki - Superintendent of Tokyo Metropolitan Police Division 2.
* Inspector Momose - Inspector from the Tokyo Police Third Division (Robbery). [[Festival Dolls Dyed in the Setting Sun]]
* Inspector Tsuyama from the Okayama District. Present during the case that occurred in Kurashiki in episode 377-378: [[Momotarou Mystery Solving Tour]]
* Inspector Chou (full name: Takagi Chousuke) - Inspector Megure's senior. Led the investigation in episode 390-391: [[Metropolitan Police Detective Love Story 6]]

== Inspector Odagiri Toshiro ==

I remember that Inspector Odagiri Toshiro did appear in Movie 4, and he'll show up Movie 14 too. Should we add him?
[[User:LittleDragonfly|LittleDragonfly]] 07:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
:Sure, why not? As Maurice stated above, every '''notable''' character, no matter how much notability there is, should be covered. And he'd be notable. ^^ A regular page may not even be needed... I plan to do pages for each section (Like the "Tokyo Police" section) and have all of the characters listed there as well, along with characters that are notable but not notable enough to really get their own page. [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 09:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

== The "u" in names ==

I don't know much about these things, but I still wonder if we should leave names without the "u" or not. It's like this: Kudo(u), Ju(u)zo(u), Yu(u)saku are written without the "u" but Mouri, Hondou and Kaitou have it. Duh, my head is spinning! But then again, I'm just asking ^^.
[[User:LittleDragonfly|LittleDragonfly]] 11:50, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

: I prefer the spellings with the "u" myself. But I was sticking with what the DC Wiki had previously established. (If it was up to me, it'd be Shin'ichi Kudou) Based on the Japanese Wiki page, the characters' names SHOULD have the "u" syllable in them. [http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%90%8D%E6%8E%A2%E5%81%B5%E3%82%B3%E3%83%8A%E3%83%B3%E3%81%AE%E7%99%BB%E5%A0%B4%E4%BA%BA%E7%89%A9] So to clarify based on the Japanese Wiki page, these would be the new romanizations of the characters' names in question:

* Shinichi Kudou
* Yuusaku Kudou
* Yukiko Kudou
* Ran Mouri
* Kogorou Mouri
* Eisuke Hondou
* Hidemi Hondou
* Ethan Hondou
* Juuzou Megure
* Miwako Satou
* Ninzaburou Shiratori
* Shintarou Chaki
* Ginzou Nakamori
* Heizou Hattori
* Gorou Ootaki
* Juugo Yokomizo
* Kiichirou Numabuchi
* Reiko Kujou
* Makoto Kyougoku
* Shirou Suzuki
* Kaitou Kid <---this romanization is particularly important as without the "u" the name "Kaito" refers to "Kaito Kuroba" instead
* Touichi Kuroba
* Kounosuke Jii

Also, not related to a missing "u" but a missing "o":

* Kazuha Tooyama

: The problem with these names is that the extra syllables ARE required when the names are pronounced, but not necessarily so for writing them down. I think we could stick these different romanizations next the characters' names in Japanese on their individual pages. --[[User talk:skyechan|skyechan]]

::The thing is that most of the names used here in this wiki are spelled the same way they are in anime subs from most of the major subbing groups. This not only makes it easier for everyone to remain on the same page, but it's also a question of standardization (if we start using different spellings here and there, the content in general would be less approachable from a reader's perspective). However, I do like skyechan's idea of mentioning the different romanizations on the characters' individual pages. Maybe we could add a field to the InfoBox that says something like: "Romanized Name"? (we already have "Japanese Name" and "English Name"). As for the usual name, it's already in the header of the InfoBox as it should be. --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 22:44, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm in everyone's (except T-Pain's) boat with this. The names are what they really are, but as Maurice said, most places don't refer to them as those names, mostly for reader's perspective and familiarity already. And as skyechan said, the pronunciations don't require the extra words when written down. For example, note that there are like, three ways to possibly write Numabuchi's name. I think that's the problem with the Japanese language in general, it's quite lax, though in some ways this is a good thing, and it really helps.

:::Basically, blame the fansubbers for this problem, as they are heavily inconsistent with the names. But to be fair, back when they were working on this stuff, and the same goes for EVERY DC-related website out there, no one probably knew 100% what the names were to be, and their translations were possibly going to be inconsistent.

:::My opinion? I don't know, I would love to go with the new names, since they're the correct names and all, but one thing that's going to be really painstakingly annoying is going back to every page and fixing the names on every page, including the already made template pages. I think this is a situation where simply creating a re-direct to "Miwako Satou" and leaving every page at "Miwako Sato" wouldn't suffice, and would probably confuse the reader when they click and see it says, for example "Juuzou" instead of "Juzo". But, honestly, who wants to spend the time going to EVERY page and fixing that, not to mention fixing the templates, images, and other things of the sort? That's why Wikipedia has bots, though. Also, as skyechan mentioned above, they're not necessary when written down, only when spoken. But this could be argued against by saying that, say a Japanese wiki using the word "fawnix" instead of "phonics". So basically, I'm torn on what I think here. [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 10:42, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

: Still, as for characters appeared in the drama series, based on what rule do we write their romanized names? On the 'Drama' page, some of them have the 'u', some doesn't. That's just confusing. If needed, I will provide 'u' for any name that lacks :lol: [[User:LittleDragonfly|LittleDragonfly]] 11:50, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

== Unnecessary characters in the list ==
Now I realize Maurice has previously stated we should provide info on notable minor characters, but isn't our list a little too excessive? Shouldn't a majority of the people on the list now simply be on the minor recurring characters list or something? Could we just make a page for Notable case characters?

Here's who I think needs to be moved or removed entirely:
*Asami Tsuburaya - Minor recurring character
*Genji Kojima - Notable case character
*Inspector Momose - Minor recurring character; Not notable enough to need a profile page
*Chosuke Takagi - Notable case character; Not notable enough to need a profile page
*Detective Kobayashi - Minor recurring character (I think?); Not notable enough to need a profile page
*Fumimaro Ayanokoji - Minor recurring character
*Misae Yamamura - Notable case character
*Reiko Kujo - Minor recurring character
*Natsuki Koshimizu - Notable case character; Not notable enough to need a profile page
*Junya Tokitsu - Notable case character; Not notable enough to need a profile page
*Samizu Kichiemon - Minor recurring character
*Fusae Campbell - Notable case character
*Kazumi Tsukamoto - Minor recurring character; Not notable enough to need a profile page
*Kyosuke Haga - Notable case character; Not notable enough to need a profile page
*Maria Higashio - Notable case character; Not notable enough to need a profile page
*Hikaru Yasumoto - Notable case character; Not notable enough to need a profile page
*Ryujiro Uematsu - Notable case character; Not notable enough to need a profile page
*Minerva Glass - Notable case character; Not notable enough to need a profile page
*Apollo Glass - Notable case character; Not notable enough to need a profile page

My solution to our extensive Character list is to simply create a page similar to the "Minor recurring characters" page for "Notable case characters". Information currently on those with profile pages can be moved to this new page and the old profile pages be deleted. I understand we want to provide as much information as possible, but seriously, some of these characters I don't see why they need to be listed on the main characters page. --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 07:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
: Or, we could just have a "List of Minor Characters" (or "List of Supporting Characters," whatever you want to call them) and then group them into sections, i.e. Recurring in the Manga, Recurring in the Anime and Notable Case. And then, we could also format it like the Characters page for consistency. And yeah, if their profile pages don't have that much info, I agree that we should just delete them to avoid clutter.--[[User:Lashedcheek|lashedcheek]] 15:12, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

::We should keep the characters profile that links to keyhole number of volume book. That's still fine. --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 15:19, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

:::The problem with keeping profiles for characters with keyholes is that often, they're only important for a single case that occurred in that volume. An entire page is simply overkill, when a Notable Case Characters page could consolidate that information and the minor recurring characters can be on the Minor Recurring Characters page. The keyhole can link to those pages. Also, if a character is big or recurring enough to be on the Characters page and have a profile, like Hideo or Sumiko, they probably don't need a mention on the Minor Recurring Characters page. I also think that Midori Megure is a notable case character and Midori Kuriyama is a minor recurring character who don't need profile pages, while the speculation over Fusae Campbell might make it worth leaving her page as-is.--[[User:Ocianne|Ocianne]] 17:38, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

::::I think the list is good, but I'm for keeping the profile pages of some of the characters with the criteria that Ocianne suggested. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:46, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::We should make another group list then in characters. Their profile information with keyhole links stays. --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 17:56, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::As Ocianne stated, a whole profile page for a character who is in a keyhole but only appears for one case is ridiculous. I'm following Ocianne and Chek's suggestions.--[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 18:57, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::::But that can't be!!!!!!
:::::::::Woah woah woah. While I can't say I disagree with everything Skyechan said, I think this decision was made rather quickly. Such a big change should have required more than 24 hours of discussion. As it seems that I'm in the minority, I'll keep my mouth shut, but we really should give the community more time to put in their opinions in the future. --[[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 14:36, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::My apologies, I'll keep this in mind in the future. --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 15:29, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

== Sato's ==
All the characters have got a little image with white balckground, but Sato no. Why?
--[[Special:Contributions/92.59.220.88|92.59.220.88]] 15:41, 26 November 2011 (UTC)Yt
:Which picture are you referring to? Both of Sato's images look like they have the white background to me. --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 16:03, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Yes, in this page yes, but, for instance, in Volumen 75 page, her photo hasn't got white blackground.
:Sato does have a white background in her 100x100 image. Perhaps you need to refresh the page? Naeko Miike and Yaiba are the only ones listed on that page that do not have white backgrounds yet. --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 16:32, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

== Keyhole characters - Profile pages or none - Vote ==
Apologies for my haste the other day. As per suggestion we'll hold a vote for this topic until we receive '''10 votes total'''.

The voting is for whether all characters represented in manga volume keyholes, regardless of whether they're important for more than one case or not, should have profile pages. Place your name under which category you're voting for and share your reasoning in your decision to help explain your stance on the matter. '''For the sake of fairness only registered users votes are counted. NO ANONYMOUS IPs.''' (Especially given the trouble anon IPs have caused in the past...) --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 16:26, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

'''The following keyhole characters do not have profile pages as of yesterday''':
* Genta Kojima - All information was moved to [[List of notable case characters]]
* Midori Megure - All information was moved to [[List of notable case characters]]
* Misae Yamamura - All information was moved to [[List of notable case characters]]
* Jinpei Matsuda - All information was moved to [[List of notable case characters]]
* Kyosuke Haga - All information was moved to [[List of notable case characters]]
* Natsuki Koshimizu - All information was moved to [[List of notable case characters]]
* Minerva Glass - All information was moved to [[List of notable case characters]]
* Apollo Glass - All information was moved to [[List of notable case characters]]
* Maria Higashio - All information was moved to [[List of notable case characters]]
* Ayako Suzuki - All information was moved to [[List of minor recurring characters]]
* Midori Kuriyama - All information was moved to [[List of minor recurring characters]]
* Kazumi Tsukamoto - All information was moved to [[List of minor recurring characters]]

=== Votes for "The characters should have profiles" ===
* S261157 - Reasoning: Characters who has keyhole volume links and characters who appear at least 2 times have their profiles is not such a bad idea. No matter if it's important character, still kept their own profile. The manual of style has the rule of creating character profiles to the Tokyo Poilce District and Black Organization. If a character has keyhole volume link, the characters profile info box should be labeled "keyhole" and links to what number of the Manga volume book. I assure you that it's the most greatest idea ever!
* Jigsaw - Reasoning: My thought process is rather complicated; I '''hesitantly''' vote to keep the profiles. Not all of the deleted character pages had keyholes mind you, so I'm not exactly sure why this criteria is what the vote is over. I've counted at least 15 character pages that were deleted despite never having had a keyhole; many of them are anime or Special Conan exclusive. There are certainly some characters who will NEVER have enough information to warrant an article, but that being said, I'm rather confused now as to where the criteria stands. What deems a character 'important' enough? Inspector Yuminaga, Shintaro Chaki, Detective Toyama, Koumei, Ethan Hondou, Elena Miyano, Atsushi Miyano, Tequila, Pisco, Calvados, Rikumichi Kusuda, Ki'ichiro Numabuchi, Keiko Momoi, Hakuba's Housekeeper, Spider, Shizuka Hattori, and Scar Akai : All of these characters have depressingly empty profiles, lack of an importance to the ongoing plot, and/or very few appearances overall, so I question why they were not deleted as well. I'm relatively shocked that Fusae Campbell was spared as well; take away mere speculation and her article is about as important as other deleted characters. If this were Wikipedia, I would agree with this decision on the grounds of notability and importance, but this isn't Wikipedia. This is a fan Wikia dedicated to Detective Conan. On the main page of this site, I read the following: "'''We strive to become the number one source of all things Detective Conan related'''." I believe this decision works in the opposite direction of our goal. While I realize that we are DCW and not another Wikia, I can point you to many other communities where even less notable characters get articles. Again, while I'm not saying that we need to base our decisions on other websites, I do wish to point out that we don't need to minimize or downgrade our efforts and overall appeal simply for the sake of "notability". One of the perks of having individual character articles is the ability to have a set format in which to work with. Merging everything into one list of characters takes away that option. My reasoning is all over the place and might not make sense because this topic is not as black and white as it is made out to be. I agree that we should separate characters of importance from the main article (the list of people on the characters article was ridiculous), but I don't think we need to delete the articles in the process. Is there a limit to the number of articles a Wikia can have? I ask this only because I see many other ways in which we could reduce the number of articles if necessary (such as gadgets). Regardless of the outcome of this vote, I would recommend revising the Manual of Style in order for the community to understand what deems a character article-worthy.
::::::::::{{red|After reading comments from other users, I've decided to recant my first vote. It seems I misunderstood the premises of this whole debate. I was under the impression that we were voting on whether or not we agreed with the character deletions. If the question is whether or not a character should get an article solely because they are in a keyhole, then I switch my vote to against. If I'm still off target, I'll abstain altogether. Sorry for the confusion.}} --[[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 23:10, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
:Quick note here, I did restore all the articles and re-directed them. They are no longer deleted. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 20:43, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
::Well, originally they were deleted but the information was added to other locations. At least, that's what I thought. Now they are redirects, correct? --[[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 20:45, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
:::That's correct, I wanted to make sure that the history was preserved in case the character goes back to being a profile and wikilinks elsewhere would not be broken. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 20:52, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
::::Thank you again Chek as when I deleted the pages I didn't think about the whole redirection thing. But yes, as Chek stated, all pages previously deleted are redirects. --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 22:51, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

=== Votes against ===
* skyechan - Reasoning: Majority of the characters listed are important for basically one case featured in that volume. Some of the characters we have virtually no information on to begin with (Maria Higashio) and in the case of the minor recurring characters, don't really show up again to contribute a lot to the plot (Kazumi Tsukamoto). All information we had on the characters was moved to the lists with the characters so nothing was really lost. Keyhole characters have their keyholes next to their information.
* Ocianne - Reasoning: An entire profile page for the sole reason of having a keyhole or making a cameo reappearance or two is overkill, especially when most of the names listed above were essentially empty beyond some background. A second appearance is often no more than a cameo with no bearing on the case or a background mention of that character, and the notable character's importance in a case can be covered between the case's summary page and the character's non-profile summary, rather than reduplicating the case in the plot overview sub-section. By having all the current information simply moved, not deleted, and redirects from the profiles to the Notable or Minor character lists, these characters can still be used in the Cast and New Character areas while maintaining a realistic view of their importance to the overall plot.
* Chekhov - Reasoning, mostly the same as Skyechan's and Ocianne's with the allowance that some characters may graduate up to full profile if they gain more important roles or have speculation tied to them (Amuro, Fusae Campbell). [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 18:50, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

===Discussion===
Regarding Jigsaw's answer about the notability criteria, I'm for keeping it flexible so characters can gain profiles if or when they gain more relevance. I think the idea in general was to minimize the number of characters on the main character page to those who mattered most. I think Skyechan has the right idea to relegate some characters to a group page, but certain character's profiles are worth debating about whether to have (eg Matsuda) or not (eg Calvados). One thing I do want to say is that Jigsaw is not furthering his/her point by using the examples he/she suggested. Many of the examples Jigsaw listed are in fact important characters because they have been given significant backstories and are highly likely to recur in the future (Esp. Inspector Yuminaga and Koumei, but also Detective Toyama and Shizuka Hattori through their relationship to the Osaka team) (MK: Keiko Momoi), or are plot relevant (Scar Akai, Ethan Hondou, Elena Miyano, Atsushi Miyano, Tequila, Pisco, Rikumichi Kusuda, Ki'ichiro Numabuchi) (MK: Spider) and thus require their own pages to explain their plot relevance. It's true some still-existing profile pages are bare or don't seem notable if certain sections were ignored, but because they have those sections, they have an article. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 21:14, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
::I'll respond to each of your points below.

::'''I'm for keeping it flexible so characters can gain profiles if or when they gain more relevance.''' 
:::Keeping guidelines flexible is fine; I merely thought it could be helpful in the future.

::'''I think the idea in general was to minimize the number of characters on the main character page to those who mattered most.''' 
:::As I pointed out, I am in support of this. However, removing characters from the main character page does not require integrating minor character articles into character lists. They are two separate issues and should be treated as such.

::'''One thing I do want to say is that Jigsaw is not furthering his/her point by using the examples he/she suggested.''' 
:::For the record, I am a he. After my many months on DCW, I find it funny that I haven’t made this public yet. Moving on, this comment seems slightly unnecessary. It does not further your point to mention that I’m not furthering mine. On another note, your comment almost seems like an attack on my opinion; while I'm sure you had no ill intentions, some people might be turned off by that sort of thing.

::'''Many of the examples Jigsaw listed are in fact important characters because they have been given significant backstories and are highly likely to recur in the future''' 
:::In other words, you are basing decisions on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_crystal_ball|mere speculation]. That's hardly a way to determine notability. In fact, you could use this logic to argue the same thing for articles that were deleted / merged. This is not Wikipedia of course, but I linked to one of their guidelines in order to explain why I believe this point is invalid.

::'''(Esp. Inspector Yuminaga and Koumei, but also Detective Toyama and Shizuka Hattori through their relationship to the Osaka team) (MK: Keiko Momoi), or are plot relevant (Scar Akai, Ethan Hondou, Elena Miyano, Atsushi Miyano, Tequila, Pisco, Calvados, Rikumichi Kusuda, Ki'ichiro Numabuchi) (MK: Spider)''' 
:::Midori Megure has a relationship with the Tokyo team comparable to that of Shizuka Hattori with the Osaka team. You could argue a similar point for Misae Yamamura due to her grandson, but that might be pushing it. As you mentioned yourself, Jinpei could also be considered important due to his ties and back history. I don't follow Magic Kaito closely enough to respond to Keiko; I merely brought her up due to a lacking profile. As for plot relevance, you did not mention Chosuke Takagi, but there is speculation that he could have a role in the future due to his relocation to Tottori. Anyways, Kyosuke Haga provided Conan with crucial information that has aided him multiple times. Hikaru Yasumoto was also quite important during the Vermouth Arc because of the testimony involving her.

::'''It's true some still-existing profile pages are bare or don't seem notable if certain sections were ignored, but because they have those sections, they have an article.''' 
:::Could you please elaborate on this point? 

::Personally, I'd rather not rebuke other people's opinions and comments, but I felt this needed to be addressed. --[[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 21:53, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I believe there is plenty of room for debate on who should or shouldn't have character profiles. The reason why I said you were not furthering your point was because I believe you were using several bad examples which undermined the value of your point that it is non-obvious who is deserving of a profile or not. In short, I agreed with you, and then your examples made me not want to agree with you.
:::You can call my "recurring character speculation" just that, but it's pretty clear by looking at past examples which characters on on the reappearing track, and my prediction track record has been pretty good. Often times, it's pretty clear which is why Sera and Amuro got articles on their first chapter appearance. Koumei will show up or be mentioned pretty much every time there is a Nagano case, but as those police are relatively new, they haven't had much exposure yet so they seem less relevant if one goes by the numbers.
:::You asked for an example of a character who would not be notable if it wasn't for other sections. Take Scar Akai, who appeared twice. His appearances were originally lumped onto Akai's article; however, the widespread speculation that he is Bourbon made forking his appearances off from Akai's page to address this speculation appropriate. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 22:20, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
::::To add on to this a few of the characters whose articles were moved clearly aren't coming back because they're dead, i.e. Masayoshi Sato and Jinpei Matsuda. They served their purpose of character development for Sato and that's all they were around for. The stories involving them were notable for the sake of Sato's character development, but again, they aren't going to come back. Now, before someone tosses the fact Shuichi Akai is also dead at me yet he has a profile page, Akai has thus far proved much more important towards the main plot of the overarching story of DC. He's been around for more than one notable case before his untimely disappearance. (And judging from Chek's theories, possibly may return.) --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 22:56, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
I will not vote based on whether there'd still be character development (I know you guys are much better with that than I am), their importance or because they have keyholes, but I will base it purely on page format/organization, consistency and the amount of info that we have and will have. I am very visual; I like it clean and simple; I don't like scrolling; and I scan much like what everybody else does on the web.

I like the idea that characters are categorized into minor and notable, and that the characters belonging to each are consolidated in pages. These pages though just look very cluttered and in disarray. Granted there's a contents box at the very top that organizes the page and so I could find which character I'm looking for but when I get to the middle, the section organization somehow gets lost, especially when there's a considerable amount of info. I know that this is a wiki and too much text is inevitable, but it doesn't hurt if you make it more readable by prettifying and formatting pages consistently.

With this, I want to know if those pages could be formatted in a more organized/readable way, or if we could format the minor and recurring characters pages just like the Characters page for consistency, with tables and just enough description to give an overview of the character.

If we could find a way to reduce the clutter of those pages without creating profile pages for characters, then I would vote against. If we choose to make it consistent with the Characters page, then I prefer that characters be given one based on the considerable (for this particular type of format) amount of info that they have (like Genji, Midori, Jinpei, etc.) or will have.

Even though I say "I" in my stance a lot, I'm sure there are other visual people like me who reads the wiki. This may or may not be directly related to your points (and I'm quite talking in circles) but I still would like to bring it to the table. --[[User:Lashedcheek|lashedcheek]] 07:35, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

== Sera and Amuro ==
Why are they in 'Others' and not in 'Family & Friends'? I think they must be there.
:Their allegiances have not been confirmed yet. There's a pretty good chance one of the two is Bourbon in which case they certainly aren't a "Friend". --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 16:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

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== Yay! ==

Hey there, glad to see you got the login issue fixed! ^^ Welcome to the DCW Wiki! :D I am so happy to see another contributor to this Wiki, as more help is definitely needed. Also, thank you very much for adding titlecards that do not have the subs underneath them. I always try to make sure they don't have the subtitle listed underneath, but unfortunately some subbers leave them there for the whole duration of the title. But either way, I am happy to see you helping in fixing that, as well as doing article work! Glad to see you around, and happy editing! [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 04:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
:Hooray! Out of curiosity I noticed the transliteration for "Feel Your Heart" was posted and I found the missing Kanji lyrics on Anime Lyrics dot com. I have tried to cite the author and the webpage, but it seems like my usual method of referencing on the normal Wikipedia isn't working here. ^^;; How do I properly cite the webpage? --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]
::Yeah, Wikipedia uses a pretty advanced and weird way to do citations now, since there are so many citation templates. We here still use the old style, as seen in the section called [[Detective Conan|Introduction]]. And don't forget to add a section titled "References" and have the </references> tag! [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 04:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks for fixing the reference for me! :3 --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]

== Cast ==

Having watched the [[Valentine Murder Case]] episode personally, I know for a fact that Agasa, the Detective Boys, and Kogoro all appeared in the episode. In fact, Conan stuns Kogoro to solve the case. Thus, I added all of those characters back into the cast section. ^^ [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 04:21, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:Sounds fine to me. As I said, I was just going based off the Koware.net tags. --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]
::I think Koware.net only lists the notable characters. And based off that site, characters like [[Officer Tome]] would probably never be listed. I have always considered that section as the place where every character that appeared in the episode goes. Either way, I am LOVING all of the amazing edits you're doing to the wiki. Great stuff. ^^ Keep up the excellent work! [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 04:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Glad you like the edits. :) I'm just glad I managed to figure out how to make the Item template. xD;; --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]

== Next Conan's Hints ==

Thank you SO much for helping me out by adding missing Conan's hints. Sometimes the subbers didn't bother to add them, as you'll find out as you go through later seasons, so any help you can provide me is a godsend. ^^ [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 19:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
:And thanks for correcting "Kaiten." That's what I heard, so I looked it up online and it turned out that that wasn't even a real Japanese word... o_O So I left it there and reminded myself that I needed to correct it at some point. Thanks again! Do you have some sort of instant messaging? [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 20:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. I'm skyedream75 on AIM. --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]

== Anime Season Tables ==

Actually the titles column doesn't have a fixed width currently. It will auto-resize depending on the size of its content and/or the size of the other columns. What I did for now was change the manga source column to use abbreviations to help make the table more enjoyable to read. If you still think a fixed set width would be appropriate for the titles columns, you are free to experiment with it! Simply add:
style="width:<put some width here>px;"|
right before "Episode title" on the [[Template:SeasonItem|BeginTable_Season]] template. Good luck and let me know if you have any questions! I'll be more than happy to help out. :) Keep up the great edits! --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 23:29, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! Finally figured out a size set I think that works well for the tables. :) --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]

== Andre Camel ==

Hey there, just wondering, where'd you get the Andrel Camel pictures from? [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 22:18, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
: Google image search. There was a screencap of him in the Italian Wikipedia apparently, so I just cropped it in Photoshop. --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]
::Alright. I'd rather that the main profile image be something that we took ourselves, so feel free to take a screenshot of him from an episode, if you'd like to get a profile picture as well, and I'll create the regular Andre Camel article. ^^ I'm close to that Clash of Red and Black arc, titlecard wise, but if you'd like to take a snapshot, go ahead. [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 22:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

== Aoyama's Many Deaths and Conan Side Images ==

Sure! Good idea btw. Just one question, would it be possible to also follow the 145x215 specs for the Conan side images? Like maybe resize and increase the height a bit (it's ok if there's more "bricks" at the top and bottom ^^). It's just so that they flow nicely with the layout (or it might break it a bit). I'll try to work on the template sometime today if I can. --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 05:57, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:I see. What about having some of the "Meitantei" in the picture and keeping the Conan image at the top. If they all look the same (with the meitantei in the picture), it would give the same feel when viewing each of the Volume's infobox and make it "standard" somehow. Another option could be to do some image editing and create some kind of a "graphical" template where we could just put the Conan image in the middle. I could do some experimentation there if necessary. Just out of curiosity, would you mind telling me your source for the pictures? (or are they all google images?) :o --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 06:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
::Wow, that's pretty impressive lol! I really admire your dedication. :) Sounds great, I'll do some testing later with the conan side images and see if there's anything I can come up with. Once I do, I'll make the changes to the template accordingly. ^_^
::Just wondering, can I add you to msn if you have it? It'd be cool to chat sometimes and easier if we're working on something for example. :) --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 00:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

== Magic Kaito Volumes ==

Sorry for the delay. I was not home today. First of all, good job with the new templates. And no worries, leave it to me. I'll work on it. ^^ --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 00:31, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:It has something to do with the "root" article which is Magic Kaito here. The template checks the current page's name to determine what to show (summarized list or extended one). It looks like some of the templates still check for the root "Manga" instead of "Magic Kaito". That would explain it. I'll have a look. No worries, we'll get it working for sure. ;) Oh another thing. Would it be possible to redo the back cover images so that they're 275x270px instead. This way it'll match the width of the volume's image in the infobox and will have the best quality this way (since it would be its native size). As for the Volume list, we can tell the template to resize it to 240px on the fly. Right now it's stretching the image to fit in the InfoBox (as can be seen here: [[Magic Kaito Volume 1]]), which doesn't look too bad. But with a native width of 275px, it'd probably look even nicer. ^^ What do you think? --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 01:04, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
::Cool! Thanks. And I was asking because there's a way to show side chapters (instead of "Chapter ?"). Just use special=1 to hide the "Chapter" prefix. Just have a look at the change I made here for a concrete example: http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Kaito_Volume_1-4&curid=1829&diff=6982&oldid=6968 --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 01:30, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

== Your thoughts ==

Your thoughts are very appreciated at the following [[Detective_Conan_Wiki:Discussion#Magic_Kaito_.22The_Crystal_Mother.22_Chapter:_A_Proposal|topic]]. Thanks! ^^ [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 22:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

== Omake chapters ==

Hey, could you tell me how many specific pages of omake chapters you want translated, as well? [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 01:54, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
: Volume 2's omake = 3 pages, Volume 4's omake (comic part) = 3 pages, Volume 4's omake (info part) = 6 pages --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]
::Nothing in volume's 1 and 3? [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 02:50, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
::: Volume 1's has been completed before ( http://www.onemanga.com/Magic_Kaito/6/30/ ) and Volume 3 doesn't have an omake comic. --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]
::::Alright! Sounds good. We may get someone who can traslate the omake chapters, so keep your fingers crossed. [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 02:55, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

== Shiratori ==

Hello there! Do you remember if Shiratori appeared in [[The Mysterious Old Man Disappearance Case|this episode?]] The AGA Search website claims so, but I'm not 100% positive he really appeared, as sometimes the information in there is incorrect. I know you only just recently passed that episode, so I was wondering if you happen to know of if he appeared in it, or not. [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 04:23, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
: Question figured out. :) --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]

== AIM ==

Just wanted to notify you if you're available to come online at some point on AIM tomorrow, as I have to discuss with you things relating to the Magic Kaito project. [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 09:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
: We'll see; I started student teaching this week so I've been rather busy on weekdays. ^^; --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]
::Alright, well, we now have a translator for MK, so would you be able to scan the missing chapter of MK (We need to use a our own scans, we can't use the ones I found,) and the omake chapters, and send them over to me via e-mail? There's no rush for when this has to be done, so don't worry. Let me know when you can get the scans done. [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 23:57, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
::: Will do! --[[User:skyechan|skyechan]]

== The Late Gouri Daisuke ==
You seem to understand Japanese better than I do, can you translate these two statements regarding the death of Gouri Daisuke for me? I get the gist of them, I just want to be positive what they say.

(From [[Kazuhiko Inoue|Inoue Kazuhiko]]) 昨年末のアンパンマンの収録では元気のない感じだった。結婚してお子さんもいたので、あまり連れ出すのも…と思い、付き合いが減ったのが残念。もっといっぱい話したかった

(From [[wikipedia:Yuko Minaguchi|Minaguchi Yuko]]) もしもドラゴンボール改が続いて、ビーデルを演じる時が来たとしても…郷里さんがミスターサタンじゃないなら、私もビーデルやりたくないと泣き、みんなを困らせました。

Oh, and could you please respond on my talkpage, so I get a notification as soon as you answer? Thank you for any help you can offer. [[User:NakagawaRyou|NakagawaRyou]] 05:43, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

:Hey, it's okay. Because of the problems we just had with the site, I went ahead and asked someone else to help me out, so it's all good... except for the whole Robin Mask/Mister Satan/Heihachi Mishima being dead part. [[User:NakagawaRyou|NakagawaRyou]] 18:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

== 286-288 ==

Hey, Skyechan, do you happen to know when the remastered version of 286-288 originally aired? Thanks! [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 09:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
:Wonderful, thank you so much!! ^^ I was wondering, would you be able to provide me a list of airdates for every remastered episode? I recently learned that remastered episodes have new scenes in them, and will get to work on things involving them. I even have screencaps from 286-288's new scenes. [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 03:22, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::WONDERFUL!! Thank you so much!! Now I will propose a page idea. [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 22:49, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

== Magic File 4 ==

Information about Magic File 4 has been released. Here you go, hot off the presses!! [http://www.7netshopping.jp/dvd/detail/-/accd/1400174365/subno/1] [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 06:30, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

== *poke poke* ==

Check your DCTP pm's. ^^ [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 16:37, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Midori Kuroba (?) ==

Indeed, it's supposed to be from the upcoming anime special. Someone on Twitter (AkemiMiyano815) told me about it. Here's how it went:

AkemiMiyano815: @dconanworld checked out your wiki acount. Toichi's wife's name is Midori in the new anime. it premeire april 17th on Animax
Me: Thanks. And when you say new anime, are you talking about the new movie?
AkemiMiyano815: @dconanworld lol no i mean anime. animax has announced on april 17th The Magic Kaitou anime will be premeired.
Me: Cool! That's good to know! :) Thanks.
AkemiMiyano815: @dconanworld yeah and it was mentioned her name was Kuroba Midori-chan. i like her hair...partially because mine is styled that way V.V;;;

--[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 01:23, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

:Then I guess it would indeed be Chikage then. I don't know of any accurate way to check the reading but it does make more sense to go with Chikage for now. Thanks for checking btw! ^^ --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 03:21, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

== a Note ==

Just a note saying IM me whenever you get the chance. Thanks! [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 22:02, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

== Recent Spam Attacks ==

Good idea. I added a captcha. The spams seem to have stopped. :) --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 16:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Mod Status ==

You're most welcome! Actually, thank you for the great work! I'm sure not only me, but the whole DC community appreciates it. :) --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 03:14, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Special Volumes Coding ==

Hey Skye! No worries, I got it covered. :)
The thing is that the "'''''<nowiki>{{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|</nowiki>'''''" bit must be followed by the name of the page that holds the summarized titles of the different items. This check is what decides whether to show everything or not. Hope it's clearer now. ^^ --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 21:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== Message ==

Just sending you a ping telling you to IM me when you get this message. [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 17:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

== Videos on Opening/Ending Pages ==

I don't know if you remember the conversation we had about it a while ago: [[Detective_Conan_Wiki:Discussion#About_the_lyrics_and_videos_on_the_wiki|About the lyrics and videos on the wiki]]. But yeah, it's fine. I actually started putting them back myself. I was just putting into practice the "stance" laid out at the time. Feel free to add your views on the subject over there if needed too. Feedback is always welcome! --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 04:23, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

== Collectibles Infobox ==

No problem and thanks! :)
And sure, I'll add a 5th and 6th box. --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 03:31, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:You're welcome! :P --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 15:59, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

== 2 21B ==

I had it down in my personal notes it was 2 21B and I don't have the source. I'll remove it until I can dig it up. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 21:47, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

== Featured Article/Song of the week ==

Yeah, there are some extensions that do that. I'll add this task to my todo list! --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 19:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== Re: May I Have Your Help? ==

Done! You were quite close actually. :P --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 00:59, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

== Tell Me A Lie ==

Yeah, that's a good idea. If it's part of the Short Stories, it doesn't have to have a separate sidebar entry link since there's already one for the Short Stories. --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 18:25, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Collectibles Table Template ==

Yeah, I didn't have time to fine-tune it earlier. I also removed ''Tell Me A Lie'' from the sidebar btw. Anyway, I hope the Collectibles page will look nicer and more informative now. It was looking a little bit too plain for me. :) --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 02:42, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

== Award ==

{{Wiki Medal|image = Yoko Okino.jpg|title = Wiki Medal of the Collector|message = In recognition of your great contributions and awesome dedication in regards to collectible pages (including music CDs). Special kudos for your amazing collection of DC media, books and merchandise! - [[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 02:38, 23 June 2011 (UTC)}}

== Podcast ==

Could you link me to the podcast? I'd love to watch it!
[[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 18:08, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Actually I think I've found them! [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 18:12, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
==RE:Foreign Thing==
Oh thanx by the way, I'll see if [[User Talk:Maurice|Maurice]] can do it. thanx--[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 21:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

== Vermouth. ==

Thanks for the message. I greatly appreciate a third person looking in on this. I replied to your suggestion. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 23:44, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

== Character List Images ==

What you're asking for is actually already implemented. :) If you look at [[Template:Char]] you will see that the second parameter is the "Image name". All I had to do on [[Drama Episode 1#Cast]] was add the actor's name such as: <nowiki>{{Char|Shinichi Kudo|Junpei Mizobata}}</nowiki>. But remember that on the profile pages of the actors, like for [[Junpei Mizobata]], the picture in the infobox should end with "Profile" such as: "Junpei Mizobata Profile.jpg". And "Junpei Mizobata.jpg" should be a 100x100 pixel image of the actor (preferably while on the show). --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 14:06, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

== Request ==
Please go to [[The Final Operating Room]] and put "The Ryoma Treasure Battle Between Conan and Kid" in the Next episode in the info box.
:Good job.

== RE: Affiliating with Other DC Wikis ==

That's a good idea indeed. I see that they just started though but the wiki does show some promise. I also noticed that they used our pictures in the characters section and some other places.. I think it would be nice to affiliate them. But it might be wise to wait a bit to gauge their levels of commitments and see how serious they are before getting involved. Maybe let it mature a bit more? But, like I said, I'm definitely open to the idea. It might just be a little too soon at this point imo. Let's see where they're at in a month or two and assess the situation then. What do you think? --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] 16:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

== Question ==

BTW, are you a mod??? --[[File:Nyan Cat.gif|link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4]][[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 23:42, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
: You should be, because you probably have more than 1000 contributes a week. --[[File:Nyan Cat.gif|link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4]][[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 23:55, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
::Oh ok, then Ill put you in the [[Template:Moderator |Moderator Template]], put it beneath your User Page thank you. --[[File:Nyan Cat.gif|link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4]][[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 00:09, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

== Request ==
This is 69.150.184.242, I have a request for you. Can you change the name of "Detective Conan vs Kaitou Kid Perfect Edition" into "Detective Conan vs. Kaitou Kid Perfect Edition"? For "vs" we make it into "vs." Put period at the end of "vs". For example, on the episodes list, there's Conan vs. Kaitou Kid, or Kaitou Kid vs. the Strongest Safe. Those are the examples. So can you change it please?
:Ok ok ok. Fine, do what you want.

== Families ==
This is 69.150.184.242, On Yoshida family, can you make no links of Mr. and Mrs. Yoshida under the pictures?

==Delete someting==
Can U delete [[Template:FA|this]]? thanx --[[File:Nyan Cat.gif|link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4]][[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 21:10, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
:Thanx --[[File:Nyan Cat.gif|link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4]][[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 00:10, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
== NY Case ==
This is 69.150.184.242, I've done as you wish.

== ??? ==
This is 69.150.184.242, whoa whoa whoa, wait a minute, on [[Magic Kaito Volume 2]], the prime minister is the heist info? Is it like he kidnaps him or something? Is that what it is?
:I see.
== Agasa ==
This is 69.150.184.242, Professor is still same thing. Trust me.

== RE: Flag Upload Request ==

Done. Sorry for the delay. I was on vacations. To download a SVG, go to wikipedia and click on the flag, then click again until you only see the flag (the url in the address bar should end with ".svg"). Then right click and save. To upload it here, it's the same process as it would be for a normal picture. Hope that helps! :) --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] [[User talk:Maurice|talk]] 14:14, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

== Hiroshi Agasa's name in different articles ==

Ms. Skyechan, tell me. Do you want all the articles to have Agasa's name of Dr. Agasa, Professor Agasa, or just Hiroshi Agasa? You know its that the episodes articles have Dr. Agasa name in cast and the music articles have Professor Agasa name in it. So what's your choice? Dr. Agasa, Professor Agasa, or just Hiroshi Agasa? Pick it and I'll try to change the name of it, of course you can help me do it. Just leave me a message and I'll get to you. Have a good day. ;) --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 21:59, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
:You know I was thinking "Hiroshi Agasa" would be fine. Can I just put Hiroshi Agasa instead? --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 20:12, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

== Drama Episode 9 ==
In "Case solved by", Type "Shinichi Kudo Heiji Hattori

== Request ==
In pictures of 60px in Characters, can you change the pictures of Chosuke Takagi, Hakuba's Housekeeper, Junya Tokistu, Fusae Campbell, Kazumi Tsukamoto, Kyosuke Haga, Maria Higashio, Hikaru Yasumoto, Ryujiro Uematsu, Scar Akai, Minerva Glass, Apollo Glass, Eisuke Hondou, Inspector Momose, Toshiro Odagiri, and Snake. Please change them into exactly 60 by 60.

== Hey ==
Hey what the heck! I'm just following the same thing. It's Oba on Case Closes book. Whats wrong with that? Hey I'm telling you the truth!!!!!!!!!!! Oba is better name of Case Closed!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't you understand?!!!
:Geez now MacGuffin, and then you, Geez I don't understand. *Sigh* I just don't understand.
Sigh, never mind. I'm just following Case Closed books.
== One more thing ==
I'm not edit warring, I'm trying to state the truths and trying to make a very good displays of this wiki. I love Detective Conan too much! It's part of my happiness.
:Sigh Ok,............I understand.

== Questionable deletion in pilgrim ==
Nevermind, I thought something was being deleted instead of added. Sorry for orange boxing you. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 21:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

== Changing 60px ==
On [[Characters]], please change the Conan Edogawa 60px into 20 June 2011 or 9 January 2010 and please change Ran Mouri 60px into 12 April 2010 or 10 May 2009. --[[User:166.205.14.76|166.205.14.76]] 17:55, 13 September 2011

::Well, I'm not Skyechan, but I've reverted the two images for you as per '''[[Detective Conan Wiki:Manual of Style|MoS]]'''. For future reference, however, reverting an image is quite simple. On every file page, right below the "''File history''" section header, you should see a table. In the first column of this table, look for the "''revert''" text link. Depending on how many versions of a file have been uploaded, the table might have more than one row. When you find the row that corresponds with the image you want to change back to, click on the "''revert''" link. As far as I know, anyone can revert an image; if you are having trouble doing so, I recommend signing up for an account. Hope this helps! =) Oh, and I added your time signature for you. --[[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 00:48, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

== Hey ==
Why are you changing 60 px with white backgrounds?
:Only 60 px right?
::Great.
== Keyhole ==
On [[Volume 73]], can you try to fix the picture of Masumi Sera in the keyhole picture? It looks kind of too dark, don't you think? Can you like umm try to make it brighter like the rest of the keyhole pictures?
:Oh ok, sorry.
::It's only meant to serve as a temporary placeholder until we get a fresh new scan from Skyechan. No worries. (Sorry to butt in again on your talk page!) --[[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 01:56, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

== RE: Family Template ==

No problem. :) --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] [[User talk:Maurice|talk]] 13:16, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
== Question ==
What are you voting for? Let me guess, the DCW's episode list order is different to wikipedia episode list order, right?

== Votes ==
Hi you might not know me but I pick Going by the "Parts" given by the Japanese DVD releases.
:I pick going by the parts given by the Japanese DVD release. --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 04:16, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
::Sorry, I'm finally back! I pick part DVD.
I think I'm late, but yeah, definitely by part :) --[[User:Lashedcheek|lashedcheek]] 05:03, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

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{{InfoBox TV
| episode = 318-319
| image = TV Episode 318-319.jpg
| title = The Cigar Case of Good Fortune
| english-title =
| japanese-title =
| season = [[Season 12|12]]
| airdate = May 5, 2003 (Part 1) May 12, 2003 (Part 2)
| english-airdate =
| cast = [[Conan Edogawa]] [[Ran Mouri]] [[Kogoro Mouri]] [[Sango Yokomizo]]
| suspects =
| solved-by = [[Kogoro Mouri]] (via [[Conan]])
| prev-episode = The Disgraced Masked Hero
| next-episode = The Art of Ninja Alibi Craft
| footnotes =
}}
== Cast ==
{{Char Appearances|
{{Char|Conan Edogawa}}
{{Char|Kogoro Mouri}}
{{Char|Ran Mouri}}
{{Char|Sango Yokomizo}}
}}
== Gadgets ==
{{Gadgets Appearances|
{{Gadget|Voice-Changing Bowtie}}
{{Gadget|Stun-Gun Wristwatch}}
}}

== Case ==
=== Situation ===
Kogoro, Ran and Conan driving in a rented car late somewhere in the mountains when suddenly the car breaks down. Being all dark outside and with fog everywhere, Ran starts to freak out. Not long after, they notice a car right in front of them turning into a small passageway (through the mountains) which they haven't noticed before because of the fog. They decide to walk and take the passageway in the hope of finding help nearby. They eventually come across a building that belongs to a company named "Kuron Healthiness Instrument Stock Company". There are some cars in the parking lot and some of them are still hot (which Conan figures were recently used and that one of them is most certainly the car they noticed earlier). After ringing at the door, a man shows up but almost immediately asks them to leave in an unwelcoming tone. After locking the door and disappearing inside, another man shows up 15 seconds later telling them to come in. Once inside, the same man who tried to push them away loudly expresses his disapproval for letting them in saying they could be "spies". Suddenly, the company owner comes out of his office quite upset about all the noise. Kogoro quickly tries to reassure them all saying they're not suspects and that he's private detective, Kogoro Mouri. The owner immediately adopts a friendlier attitude and apologizes for being so ignorant. He then offers his business card to Mouri introducing himself as Meko, the owner of the Kuron Healthiness Instrument Stock Company.
{{InfoBox Crime
| crime = Attempted Murder
| image = EP318-319a Case.jpg
| location =
| victim = Shiro Umetani
| cause-death =
| suspects =
| description =
}}

{{InfoBox Crime
| crime =
| image = EP318-319b Case.jpg
| location = On a road in the mountains
| victim = Masaki Hiramatsu
| cause-death = Car accident (due to brake oil leak)
| suspects = Shiro Umetani, Haruo Nakano, and Eigo Kasahara
| description = Masaki Hiramatsu is found dead in a car accident.
}}

=== People ===
{{BeginBox}}
{{People|Shiro Umetani|Shiro_Umetani.jpg|
* 45 years old
* President of Kuron Health Appliances Company}}
{{People|Haruo Nakano|Haruo_Nakano.jpg|
* 40 years old
* Director of Development Department 1}}
{{People|Eigo Kasahara|Eigo_Kasahara.jpg|
* 42 years old
* Director of Development Department 2}}
{{People|Masaki Hiramatsu|Masaki_Hiramatsu.jpg|
* Victim
* 33 years old
* Director of Development Department 3}}
{{EndBox}}

=== Resolution ===

<spoiler>
The president, Shiro Umetani was found guilty after analyzing the evidence.
</spoiler>

== See also ==

* [[Season 12]]

[[Category:Episodes]]
[[Category:Anime Exclusive]]

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