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User talk:BlackWings

2012-07-24T21:34:27Z

BlackWings: /* Re:My previous reply. */

== In regards to what's been going on ==
Personal pages are for the user/creator of those pages to edit alone. They are simply for personal speculation, theory writing, so on and so forth. They are not official wiki articles and should not be edited by anyone other than the creator. (Unless they are marked otherwise.)

If you wish to use your own User page for your own personal research on handedness, by all means, I highly encourage it.

To create your own research page, go to the "Search" bar and type in User:BlackWings/(title of research topic here). So for example, type in "User:BlackWings/Handedness". The search will return with a page that reads: "There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or edit this page." From there just click where it says "edit this page" or click the "create" button at the top. There ya go! :) Hope this helps. --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 23:28, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

:Please read my concern again. It wasn't about the edits I made, it was about the treatment during the debate. I wanted to discuss a perceived anomaly and she elected to lash out at me for it. I picked at the logic and methods of the person, and she stopped debating and freaked out. I already said I'm sorry for the changes (though I think the purely aesthetic one where I made the bullets uniform is an acceptable and ignorable decision), but my concern is about the fact that Chekhov elected to throw a tantrum because I wanted to discuss something that seemed unusual. And then there's the other thing I pointed out on Maurice's page, which seems to be solely malicious and uninformed after reading what she last said to me and after a visit to Mangafox (as well as hypocritical if my own inference is correct).

:I don't know how many more ways I can say, "I'm sorry, and this is about the way she treated me and someone else, not the edits." This is why I went to the top. I didn't know the rule on personal pages and she never bothered to point that out in the discussion before the attack, so she should be prepared for such a result. I don't think her treatment of me or anyone else who voiced concerns with the page she (if I'm correct) uses in some spots on the web as an end all reference as though it was a wiki page is justified or dignified and it seems venomous. I'm concerned in looking in to whether or not anything she did was justified and whether or not I should consider coming back to the site if that's how I'm going to be treated when I show up looking to discuss something. [[User:BlackWings|BlackWings]] 16:43, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

==Re:My previous reply.==
Sorry for the delay, but I had no idea you'd even edited my Talk page. In the future, if you want to make sure I see a message, make sure to edit my main talk page. :) (Page 2 that you edited is an archive of older questions/responses that I don't receive e-mail updates for.)

I did read the message at the time but I did not respond to the above because there's nothing for me to say or respond to. It's not my business to butt in and make a judgement. I only piped in to suggest a tip on making personal pages and that was all. :) --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 05:38, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
:I left that on page two not long before your response, so there is no delay. However, I didn't know page two was an archive, I assumed it was a carry over to make the loading time smaller.
:That's good to know: A moderator's place is not to make a judgement on a the ethics of someone who takes a debate off topic with personal attacks, even when anyone can see that's the intention just be reading the summaries on the history pages. I definitely won't be coming back if this is how the site is conducted. [[User:BlackWings|BlackWings]] 21:34, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin/Handedness

2012-07-23T21:52:29Z

BlackWings: Hit the wrong edit link.

== Handedness Article ==

I'm not familiar with editing formats, so I'd like to make this request for you to personally handle. In the handedness article, you should include a very important detail into Akai's shooting in Chapter 504. Akai was using a right handed Bolt Action Rifle. This important because left handed people either order a left handed Bolt Action or hold them like a right handed person; the use of the Bolt is extremely awkward and difficult if a right handed Bolt Action is held lefty style, and vice versa. It could be a slip up on Aoyama's part, but it's worth mentioning since all we have is reasoning to draw Akai's hand on; it's possible this is meant to show us Akai is faking his left handedness and overplayed his part in this shooting.

Also, for the article in general, may I recommend a more detailed description of each person's movements with their hands? I noticed you discounted the possibility of Akai using a right cross against the bus jacker in Chapter 289, left out the fact that Akai was searching the fruit basket and had just occupied his right hand in Chapter 601 (unless your contention is that Akai knew right away that it was directly under the apple) and should also point out he started this search with his right hand, you left out when Gin used his phone with his right hand in Chapter 603 because he placed it in a right pocket due to the fact that at that time he needed his left hand for the laptop that was showing him the contents of the vans, and you put his assassination of Pisco in Chapter 242 as "Unavoidable," when this itself is an assumption; there are people in the world who can use a body part that's in extreme pain without drugs, so it deserves a mention if nothing else. Also, I think pointing out Vodka's watch changing hands as a continuity error in Chapter 383 is wrong because you already pointed out Aoyama erroneously had watches on dominant hands before that in the same section; it seems redundant and it's clearly Aoyama cleaning up his prior mistake. That's just what I noticed, and there may be more. - 71.126.239.180
:Hi 71.126.239.180, the the handedness article is actually a personal reference page because its a bit too specific to be a real article, but I welcome any and all corrections and additions. I looked into it, (read visiting [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Detective_Conan#Accuracy_International_Arctic_Warfare imfdb]) and the Accuracy International Arctic Warfare that Akai is using is indeed right handed, which I will make a note of. I think it is likely to be a slip up on Aoyama's part (lefties drawn/pictured using righty rifles happens a lot, so I've been told), because it would be the height of foolishness for Akai to handicap himself by using his off dominant hand on a one-try-only precision shot from 700 yards. Akai has been shown to prefer his left hand in other tense short-notice-to-react situations, like the scene with Vermouth.
:Regarding the other part or your request, sure I can make it more detailed, but that will take a bit of time.
:*289 was definitely a left handed strike because that was the hand Akai was swinging around to hit (this is from the manga, you can see the movement lines). If you are saying he was bringing his right hand around, that is unlikely; he was facing nearly backwards from the robber and squatting at the time meaning the rotation needed for a fluid hit with the right is impossible.

:*In 601, I do think he was expecting a bomb under the fruit (he thinks as much in the next panel!), and that he was freeing his left hand to grab it. It was someone else's gift, so it isn't exactly polite to set fruit down wherever, which he would have had to do if he was using his left handed only.

:*In 603, Gin actually has two radios in this scene which I should have clarified. I am assuming you are talking about the first radio (page 4) that he uses to talk to the motorcycle trio using his right hand. It's hard to tell from the art but it could be a radio connected to the dash with a cord because it has no antenna, so I will make a note that it could be unavoidable if it is corded, it would hang up on the right side of Gin on the dash. I don't see where he put it in his pocket. Gin likes to keep his hands in his pockets whenever he isn't doing anything with them, so I am not going to risk wrongly interpreting it as he put the radio in the pocket versus setting the radio down in his lap or something like that. This is especially the case if it is a corded radio.

:*I put the assassination with Pisco as unavoidable because Gin had an injury that limited the actions he could take with one of his hands. The inability to grip and stabilize properly because of gross tissue damage, Conan's tranq in his system, and general pain might throw his aim (Pisco might try to run for it.) if he tried to use his right hand. He would have used his left anyway, but because the option of using his right was limited, I listed it as unavoidable.

:*I plan to keep the note about Vodka's watch because it was an important clue in determining Vodka's handedness for sure - as a contrast to Gin, and I think it is important to note the point of transition.
:[[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 15:19, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

::It looks more like he's sideways to me, and if it is that's how you gear up a left outward chop, a left elbow, a right cross, and maybe a few other attacks. And you actually just made a new point for me. When you strike, you're supposed to put your whole body behind it. This could be another error by Aoyama, but it looks like more power would be given to a right handed attack with only minute accuracy errors; a right handed attack would be fine as long Akai's style isn't Krav Maga.
::The point I was trying to make with the fruit basket is that it's one thing to know/expect to find a bomb, it's another to know exactly where it's located. You're right, setting the apple down randomly would be rude, but the point I'm making is that Akai got lucky and the first fruit he pulled was directly over the bomb. What if it wasn't? What would his next move have been? And how does this effect the article? That's all I'm saying: taking the bomb should be an Unavoidable, not a Miscellaneous, and taking the fruit is tough to call.
::No, I was talking about the second device Gin used to talk with Vermouth, and I assumed it was his cell phone. The pocket was my mistake, I was looking at a darker scanlation and thought the seat was empty, and with his hand in his pocket I assumed he was reaching for it in there. However, my general point still remains the same: these moments belong in Unavoidable. On a few of these early pages a laptop or similar device that was feeding him the scans of the vans was on his lap, which, according to page 6, had him inputting commands of some kind (my guess would be moving between, and perhaps opening, the scans). The device he used to communicate with Vermouth is unavoidable due to where he placed it, and the device from page 4 can be considered unavoidable (regardless of any cord) since he was keeping his left hand ready to use the same laptop, and this laptop is an additional reason to suggest that even if the second was on his lap close to his left hand he would use his right hand. Additionally, putting the first device into his right hand can be attributed to the gear shift, so this is an additional moment that I think is better suited to Unavoidable.
::Fair enough. However, how about including this little description? Your reasoning's sound, but since the possibility of this being optional is still real without concrete evidence from Aoyama, I think this deserves noting.
::And the Vodka note was just an aesthetic suggestion. Like I said, including the previous note and this one makes the point sound redundant, but that's not necessarily a bad thing for a wiki.
::Final notes on the shoot out. We don't actually know which hand Akai made the all important, one chance shot with; nobody saw how he held the rifle until after he made that shot. For fairness to bolt actions, they're famously considered more accurate than semi-automatics. For the scene (and this could be a manga's limitations), Aoyama made Akai's final shots look like they were fired from a semi-automatic, so another possible artistic blunder is worth noting somewhere. And as a word of wisdom, nothing that can be used as evidence in a mystery story should ever be chalked up as an artistic blunder before the truth it is/could be evidence for is revealed or the creator and/or staff says so.
::Also, while I'm here, may I make one more request? A friend and I went over this series and this wiki, and I just noticed that a single idea we had was absent from the most logical of places on the site. Does a section or article concerning the possibility of a traitor in the FBI exist somewhere? - 71.126.239.180

:::Regarding Akai's strike, again Akai is squatting while facing away. He is in the middle of what clearly is going to be a left hand outside chop to the hijacker, so he must have been facing even more backwards when he started the attack. Since he was facing away from the robber and squatting, he didn't have much option for the attack.
:::He would have pushed the apple off to the side and grabbed another fruit.
:::I did list Vermouth's radio in grey which equates to no clear handedness. The reason I put it in the radio section instead of unavoidable is because Gin may have made a choice to set it down to his right in the first place instead of say, in his pocket. As we did not see the initial setup, its indeterminable, but not necessarily unavoidable. The first radio is considered handed, because he switched hands while holding it, meaning using it was not unduly handedness restrictive.
:::It is unlikely Akai switched hands. Switching hands would mean switching the side of the cheekpiece, adjusting the positioning of the scope from a cross eye configuration to a same side eye configuration, and then taking the time after that to recenter on the target because Akai dropped his form. It takes too long. I doubt Akai would even be able to fire back on Gin if he did all of that.

:::Regarding a traitor in the FBI, I think it is strongly unlikely for multiple reasons. The scope of the FBI I am considering is the group in Japan that we have witnessed. Other FBI I am not concerned about because they are not a part of the story so far.
:::*If there was a traitor in the FBI, Rena's holding location would have been known and thus there was no need for Vermouth to interrogate the child and act like she had found out new information - who would she need to fool when she is reporting it too her fellow Black Org members?
:::*Gin would not needed to deduce which van Rena was being held in. Sure, the Black Org could have followed all three at first to keep up appearances, but it was clear Gin did not initially know which van Hidemi was in and then deduced it on his own when he heard from Vermouth that Akai that was following the second van - a bluff.
:::*Conan appeared in front of the whole assembly of FBI during the strategy meeting of Red and Black. If a traitor has witnessed that, Conan would have been investigated if not killed ("accidentally" if that was the case) soon after Red vs. Black. If Conan was investigated, this would have likely led to the uncovering of Haibara Ai, as the people connected to Conan would be investigated. She could easily be spotted by someone tailing Conan to school while studying his movement routine for example.
:::The FBI traitor theory is not particularly common, nor is it is not supported by evidence so far. The wiki itself operates with an inclusion standard of strong and reasonable evidence for a theory to be included (See the [[Akai faked his death theory]] for example) unless it is particularly common and this one is not. If you want to create a personal user page of the theory with details and then ask on the main forum if it acceptable for inclusion, be my guest. That is what I did for the three theory pages that I wrote.
:::[[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 19:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

::::Alright, I'll concede the attack, but only cause I didn't consider that he had already turned a bit.

::::My stance on the fruit, however, remains. Had it not been under the apple, Akai would have used his left hand for the next fruit while putting the apple aside, and had that one hidden the bomb his right hand would have pulled the bomb up (at the same time, if he needed to move another, then we're back to his left hand holding the bomb). As such, I say it remains as follows: the right hand was his choice (and your theory on why is as valid as mine) and the left hand holding the bomb was Unavoidable as a result of the previous choice, but this was not an effort used for the bomb but an effort used for a search.

::::I'll agree with Gin's radios if you just include the laptop in your description - this last device was absent once again from the description, so it'd be a little premature to give total agreement.

::::As for the traitor, allow me to speak my mind on this subject:
::::- If there is a traitor, they don't want him/her compromised due to the value of having someone keeping tabs on the FBI. As such, Rena and Conan need to be something the Black Organization learns in its own time - if either (particularly Rena - after the DJ case Conan and the people around him are already sitting on the edge of a boiling pot) dies or is found prematurely, the traitor's existence is revealed and all value of having him/her in the FBI is gone; the traitor can only be exposed when in a position to destroy all files on the Organization, kill all agents connected to the case, and end their investigation permanently: since we're talking about the FBI, that means the traitor's in until death.
::::- You're acting off the assumption every agent who initially knew Rena's location at the end of this case are the only suspects - I'm a fan of the idea Camel's the traitor for this reason (among others - my friend falls more into the James Black idea using the above point with others).
::::- Twice in the Clash of Red and Black arc, Gin talked about an informant - the first was in Chapter 603, where the informant seemed to be unable to give him anything on the FBI's movements but did give Gin a back up plan he didn't want to use; the second was in Chapter 607 where the Gin knew the details of the investigation Camel was caught in. These aren't necessarily the same informant, but it does mean they had someone(s) watching the FBI even after they reclaimed Rena.
::::- Speaking of Rena, Gin seemed almost certain that Akai would come alone to meet with her. Additionally, when Scar Akai appeared, Gin's first thought in Chapter 700 was "Kir screwed me," not "Akai cheated death." He completely disregarded the idea that Rena was tricked just like the rest of them and instead said she and Akai were co-conspiring. - 71.126.239.180

:::::Just to let you know you can sign your posts using four tildes in a row (~) and can indent by using colons (:).
:::::I am not going to change anything about the fruit since we have moved into the realm of the the hypothetical. The list concerns what has actually happened as best as can be reconstructed.
:::::Can you explain again how the laptop has relevance to which hand Gin would choose for either radio that the position of said radio doesn't explain?

:::::Regarding the potential traitor, Gin's first informant was Vermouth looking for Akai's car. The second was someone they sent into the hospital. Gosho was being intentionally vague about the whole informant thing because he was actively encouraging the idea Camel was a BO spy up until he revealed that he was working with Akai on a secret plan instead. It is in the same vein as James Black making Akai sound like Gin in his first appearance.
:::::I think Camel and James Black are both loyal FBI. Haibara has been in the presence of both Camel and James Black; she had no reaction. Also, Akai trusts both of them, and he has a pretty decent sense for Org and not Org - he seemed to already have a hunch about Kir before Conan told him his end of things (recall his initial quote about bait 596.4 - she can't be "bait" sent deep into the Org if she is loyal to the Org after all).
:::::Besides, I don't know why you are assuming that having a spy in the FBI means the Black Org must act in an all (move only when able to destroy all info/agents/etc.,) or nothing fashion. Why can't the Black Org coincidentally be present for some function because, say, they were assassinating someone in the area? Or maybe someone else started investigating Kogoro for an incidental reason, like following up Gin's residual suspicions in the DJ case, and then finding Conan suspicious and encountering Haibara Ai. It is extremely easy for someone clever to create a series of plausible convenient reasons to act on info from a spy often without compromising him. For someone as important as Shiho, it is probable that action would be taken against her if there is easy opportunity to. They could arrange an accident: one of Agasa's inventions explodes, sabotage the beetle so there is a car crash, fire, hit and run...
:::::Regarding the red shirts case, Gin had that spiel about how he was excited to kill Akai again and had Chianti and Korn set up to kill him, so saying he was unconcerned with Akai being alive does not match with the manga. The reason Gin disregarded Rena being tricked is because there is no conceivable way Akai could have survived without Rena doing something tricky - she shot his on camera point blank and Gin and the Org monitored her the whole time. He doesn't know how exactly she could manage, but Gin doesn't have to because its pretty easy to make that deduction.

:::::There is no evidence I have seen for a spy in the FBI, and any vague suggestions, like Gin's informant line, can be adequately explained without resorting to postulating spies. Also there exists counterclaims (discussed earlier) that suggest there isn't one. Until there is some action or knowledge shown by Org that cannot be adequately explained without resorting to a spy, I personally will not postulate or base any theories on their existence because I think that is invalid and risky deductive logic.
:::::[[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 04:56, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

== Re: BlackWings and handedness assumptions ==

Due to the non-existence of confirmed cases in the canon, all characters are assumed to not have any form of cross-dominance (including trained ambidexterity) and are either left-handed or right-handed. [[User:BlackWings]] 17:21, 13 April 2012
:I don't make any assumptions here regarding cross dominance or ambidexterity. I assume both are possible which is why I document everything to look for usage patterns. Even though I haven't included Kudo Yuusaku on this list I remember when I worked him up once, I decided there was a case for him being ambidextrous. Also there is some clear partial cross dominance going on for virtually all the characters using their communications devices because they often deviate from handedness as normal. I will add the assumption that I believe none of the characters are deliberately hiding their true handedness in the long term. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 23:53, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::Yes you do sweety, and you successfully missed my point. The fact is both Subaru and Akai are cross dominant, but you're insisting they're only left handed. There's an ample number of cases where they both swap out their hands for more than just communication devices, and the IP person pointed some of Akai's out for you. Subaru's are much more obvious, especially after the recent toothbrush in Chapter 812: he chooses his left when he's alone and in a private setting while choosing his right when he's out in public or when he knows people are around (whether or not they are trained or natural is unknown). Both of these characters are cross dominant, Subaru a total ambidextrous (trained or natural unknown, though the ash tray and bottle in 817 as well as his rescues of the Detective Boys lead me to say natural), Akai is mixed handed at the very least (he could, and probably is, a total ambidextrous like Subaru, but he's sealed his right hand for the most part), and the assumption no one is hiding their true hand was disproven by Subaru. This was my point in adding this detail.
::Additionally, moving on to more speculative arguments, you also dismissed cross dominance for Akai's sniping. Some cross dominance extends solely to certain tasks in which someone otherwise right handed can only/best perform a task with his/her left hand (commonly called mixed handedness, who are addressed as left-mixed or right-mixed handed, sometimes no "mixed" based upon the hand they use most often). This disproves your argument on why the panel of Akai holding a right handed rifle with his left hand is not deliberate on his part: even if he's a right-mixed handed, he could be better at shooting with his left, and would (as you pointed out) shoot with his left. Am I saying this is right? No, in fact I think he's an ambidextrous and that is an art error. The point is you dismissed cross dominance even though Akai is a clear case. (Also, how do you sign these things again?) [[BlackWings]] 15:09, 17 May 2012
:::You sign using four tildes is a row (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). I understand why you are suggesting cross dominance as a possible solution, however, the reason I am continuing to reject your assertions and support that Okiya and Akai are left handed because ''compared to other characters with known handedness'' Okiya/Akai does not show significantly more right handed use by comparison that would indicate cross dominance. Making the assumption that not every character in Gosho's work is cross dominant, which is reasonable as only 5-10% of the population is mixed handed last study I saw, then I can map out where characters fall on the spectrum of handedness use and start making judgment calls based on clustering and distribution in that relative spectrum. I am also drawing from more data than is presented here. Although only the main arc characters are on this list, I have been following lots of other characters (Conan, Ran, Kogoro, Takagi, etc...) and all of them have many situations where they use their non-dominant hands/legs/eyes/etc. significantly. They are not on this list because working up and formatting just 20-30 chapters of appearances for appropriate presentation takes multiple hours. You are free to confirm these observations if you wish. 
:::Here are my judgement criteria: 
:::'''Left-handed''': Left dominance with some right use within reasonable boundaries as determined by comparison with characters with known or well established handedness. (Reverse left and right to get the righty version.) 
:::'''Cross-dominant/partially ambidextrous''': Uses one hand more often, with non-dominant handedness occurring significantly more often than characters with known single handedness. (I haven't rigorously checked the London case, but Yuusaku seemed to be falling in this category when I scoped him out last. That might have changed with recent chapters.) 
:::'''Ambidextrous''': Uses both hands close to interchangeably. 
:::In addition, there are more criteria I use to judge: tasks people normally exclusively use their dominant hand for (if they have one) are given more weight in my judgements. Characters frequently alternate hands for holding cellphones, or which shoulder they hold their bag over for instance so those have less impact than, say, dialing or operating the touchscreen or firing a gun which is more exclusively handed.
:::Also, I throw (grey in list) or flag (green in list) situations where handedness may be forced or unnatural, for instance Gin using his right hand to hold his gun because he had to open lockers with his left, or Akai using his right hand to grab Conan's cellphone when it could be part of a trick setup.
:::Akai and Okiya, when using the criteria described and eliminating forced or suspected unnatural situations falls in the left handed category relative to other characters. Like virtually all the handed characters do at various points, they use their non-dominant hand in some situations when they could be using their dominant; however, these were in the minority and not significantly outside the "definite handedness cluster." This is the reason for my judgement.
:::Regarding the right-handed rifle, I honestly think art error is very likely. Gosho is almost certain to have drawn that rifle from a reference and most rifles are right handed. Like most people who never noticed this detail without it being pointed out to them, Gosho may not have realized that certain features of rifles are not necessarily ambidextrous.
:::For Okiya around Sera, if he is trying to hide his identity as Akai from Sera, pretending to be right handed makes sense, especially if his left hand is occupied doing something else surreptitious. Cross dominance might be indicated if Subaru suddenly turned out to be a good writer when using his right hand with Sera around, but unfortunately brushing teeth and pointing are things a totally left handed person can easily fake with no prior practice.
:::TLDR, I will continue to reject your assertions unless presented with significant evidence to the contrary because my evaluations have shown that all characters, even known handed ones, have non-dominant hand usage. Some-non-dominant usage is therefore expected and thus using these few cherry picked moments is unconvincing unless there is a disproportionate amount of them. Okiya and Akai's offhand use fall within the relative usage limits for single hand dominance, so I see them as left handed. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:55, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
::::It's interesting you use the word "compare," because that's the part I have doubts on. If you do compare Akai's actions to known left-handed Gin, you'll notice a serious distinction. In fact, you don't even need to go that far, simply look at Akai's. Akai has a total of three avoidable uses of his right hand (five if we count the IPs assertion of the busjacking and the fruit basket), compared to Gin's double digits. Now, if we remove the ones where Gin may have needed to use his right hand (Ex. 504 Shushes Vodka: possible necessity of keeping the handkerchief snug with the movement of the car) or the ones that strongly indicate left handedness (Ex. 1 Right hand holding pipe: indicates the pipe went to the right when it came down, in turn indicating a left handed grip - supported by the fact his left shoulder seems more prominent), we're down to four:
::::1 - Opened APTX container with left hand, while pulling pill out with right
::::502 – left to hold radio in one panel, then switched to right hand in next panel appearance, then back to left again for 2 panels, then back to right for two panels
::::Bear in mind, the last one contains multiple instances, but the point is Gin had a few actions where the right hand was a choice on his part. Even grabbing Korn's rifle is indicative of left handedness, given that he grabbed it by the barrel which is where his right hand goes anyway (it's easier and wastes less time this way). However, if we apply this to Akai's list, then he loses all avoidable right handed use (and I'll be skipping the three you already handled):
::::289 - Uses radio with right hand (standing) (given he was looking for Sherry and aware of some Organization presence, this is easily comparable to when he grabbed Ran in New York)
::::608 - right hand to hold cell phone and click buttons (he most likely realized he may need his left hand to stop James again, which seems likely given that Akai's truck needed to be started up and has the lever on the right - there's no other reason for him to keep his right hand occupied and waste time)
::::Your list is about how they never use their dominant hand in every avoidable situation, but Akai contradicts this theory, with every off-dominant action having a reason of necessity and/or simplicity that enable it to be argued away. Likewise, there's no action from his right hand that more heavily indicates left handedness (the only one being: 596 - left hand for phone, right for binoculars; and even this follows the "awkward logic" given that Akai's cell phone was most likely in a pocket meant for his left hand). Additionally, there's the shotgun from 434. Even Captain America, Red Skull, and the real life human guinea pigs of Super Soldier Programs would struggle with a one handed shotgun blast, not to mention the one handed pump wastes time in which he can keep Vermouth covered (and we saw the direct result of wasting that time when Vermouth positioned herself to put Conan, Ran, and Haibara in the path of the shell). All I'm saying is Akai defies your list's logic, and his right hand is unique among all others as the only one used only in unavoidable actions. This is especially unique when you consider all evidence suggests Akai seems to be naturally left handed. We live in a right handed world, most appliances are specifically designed for right handed use, so most left handed people learn to use their right hand frequently and become ambidextrous by accident. Akai's severe lack of avoidable right handed action is in no way normal, which indicates he's deliberately sealing his right hand.
::::Also, for Akai's rifle shot from 504. The point wasn't about his handedness, it's about the note. That probably is an art error, but the note is an argument that only applies in a world without cross dominance (no matter the person) and is instantly called into question when we see Akai does everything in his power to not use his right hand unless he absolutely has no choice in the matter.
::::Finally, a bit off this topic of Akai, but I put "southpaw stance" back in the Sera bullet and changed "high right leg sweep" to "right roundhouse kick aimed at the head." Stances are often used as a means of identifying handedness, that's the whole reason I put the stance there in the first place and used the rest to argue against this logic and point out an example in JKD classes. Otherwise, you may as well not even mention the specific moves and just say "fought with Ran." The leg in "leg sweep" refers to the target, not the attack. Sera's movement and the fact that her leg is turned to strike with the instep as well as the power of it makes me almost certain it's a roundhouse and not a crescent. (Sorry, forgot to sign) [[User:BlackWings|BlackWings]] 00:12, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

:::::This is not a wiki page. It's a personal page, so please don't edit it without consulting me first. I've pretty much said all I've needed to say to you regarding handedness, Fanged Loathe, both to your current username, and to your other IPs, and elsewhere, even after you decided to act like a total dick on my userpage and pretend like you could come back unnoticed. Don't like my evaluation? Please make your own and then maybe you can convince other people to accept it. I don't care to go around in circles with you anymore because it is uninformative. I've earned my reputation for accurate assessment here at DCW and at DCTP which are the two core groups of dedicated English language Conan fans on the internet. If you were really serious, you would not need to sockpuppet like you are trying to hide to try to make your point. You would sign up in the forum, and attack directly, under the scrutiny of the best group of Conan mystery solvers on the internet. I recommend DCTP where I am not a mod. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 01:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::::::Fine, I'm sorry I edit without permission, but the stance is important given that a large number of people associate stance with handedness (it's a false idea, but worth mentioning solely for the fact you mentioned more things that don't indicate handedness). After that, I don't know what you're smoking, but here's some things for you to chew on: if you have a reputation, you wouldn't need to boast about it, it would boast itself. If you don't like going "around in circles" then get out of the debating game, since that's precisely what it does prior to its resolution. And if your response to someone debating you is not a response but just attacks on the person, then the person in question is likely to "sockpuppet" just to get your attention and reopen this debate and deliver it to its resolution. I'm open to throwing in this towel, but you need to be willing to accept the irregularities of Akai's choices and the fact that he does not stack up as left handed in a comparison against Gin, accept that Akai's right hand is unusually underused. Otherwise, these moments of attacks are going to be frequent followed closely by "sockpuppeting" and a few people are likely to insist you take some magic mushrooms.
::::::Also, the start to that fight is called a Stop Kick or Jeet Tek (there's bound to be more names, but those are the two I was taught). Just as your note points out, the name suggests, and Sera demonstrated, the objective is to stop the attacker and the attack. [[User:BlackWings|BlackWings]] 21:24, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

::::::: Sorry, I just had to butt in here. Let me make sure I've got this straight: BlackWings says he's not a sockpuppet, even though he said he might be doing that because Chekhov doesn't like him. Chekhov MacGuffin says serious debaters don't need to sockpuppet to convince people of their theories, even though anyone who visits mangafox.me can see she was a sockpuppet. BlackWings claims to have come here to make a point on handedness assumptions, but then makes those same assumptions when he tries to explain Sera. Chekhov MacGuffin says BlackWings should debate the best Conan minds on the internet which she says she is one of, but when BlackWings does just that on this talk page she runs away saying she's not going to debate him and flames BlackWings. Is that right? You two need to start using the big kid potty, this page houses the most pathetic argument I've ever seen and a lot of it has to do with the fact that you're both making assumptions on handedness because you both know nothing about handedness and don't want to see how stupid your wrong ideas make you both look. Handedness is about dexterity, not number of uses or instinct. [[Special:Contributions/203.66.73.55|203.66.73.55]] 00:11, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I have no clue why people say I have sockpuppeted on Mangafox. I had a single account with less than ten posts that I gave up ages ago because there wasn't much interesting going on over there. I also made a Chekhov account which I have never posted with after I heard some people over there didn't like me for reasons I have no idea about -- in order to prevent someone from signing up and using that name maliciously. That's it. People who think I am socking are probably running into users who are reposting my theories, which is rather common. One of the administrators at DCTP stickied the thread where I keep my theories, and many users reference them there and on DCW, so they wind up getting a lot of exposure because of that. Between that page, and theory pages I posted here, they probably accumulated north of 75000 hits. Searching a sentence out of one of my theories reveals they are all over the place, not counting people who have paraphrased them or translated them into other languages.
::::::::I know BlackWings has been socking because I can easily search for IPs originating from the same area. Not unexpectedly, an IP from the same place [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/User_talk:Chekhov_MacGuffin#Handedness_Article posted before BlackWings made an account about this very issue, and promised to come back]. Even the other moderators took notice of his bad behavior. When he came back as BlackWings, I decided to give him another chance, but cut him off after watching him devolve into incivility again. If this is "running away" in your eyes, that's fine with me. I have no desire to deal with someone who has a history of bad behavior and shows no signs of acting in better faith this time around, and neither apparently do the other moderators. That said, I would appreciate it if you would be less condescending as well. ''As a general notice to anyone reading this, I would prefer the discussion focuses on handedness, and not users and their behavior because it has only resulted in unpleasant conversation.''
::::::::Back to handedness, I never stated that a simple majority determines handedness (although so far it seems that the majority does indeed match likely handedness in the cases listed). The assumptions I have made are listed on the page, and these assumptions are based off of prior statements from Conan's deductions or from observations of people with known handedness, and as far as I can tell are pretty non-controversial. All the list shows is that no character exclusively uses their dominant hand, there are situations which can force hand use one way or the other which need to be considered when making handedness judgements, and certain activities are more exclusively dominant handed (eg gun handling) than others (eg cellphone holding). The reason this list is comprehensive (minus recent chapters because I haven't done them yet) is to provide a convenient layout and easy references so someone trying to make a determination can weigh what activities are the most important to consider. I hope this clears this up. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 05:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::You're accused of socking because [http://tinyurl.com/dxzokac you referred to Chekhov MacGuffin as a different person] on Manga Fox, giving the impression that you were someone different. Additionally, you didn't leave Manga Fox, [http://tinyurl.com/cl4jjg6 you were banned] because you got caught using two accounts. Your original account is back now, but the Chekhov MacGuffin account is gone for good. You claimed to find Manga Fox boring weeks before you "left," so why you decided to hang around for those weeks and only took off after you had your theories challenged is quite baffling if you're really the great detective you claim to be.
:::::::::And really, who on Manga Fox hates you? Fanged Loathe made it clear you two butt heads and you certainly treated him with the same superior attitude you've displayed all over the internet, but nothing was there to say you were hated to the point someone would risk their own account just to do something so venomous. In fact, given the sheer number of people who post your theories and bent over backwards at your posts, I'm willing to say you're well respected on Manga Fox, negating your logic. However, if you really feel you were hated, then perhaps you should focus on becoming a better person and not blame all your problems on other people.
:::::::::If you wanted this page to be restricted to handedness, then you shouldn't have brought in Ad Hominem attacks and bolstered yourself up so much. You only have yourself to blame for this tangent.
:::::::::I didn't know that disagreeing with someone means a conversation "devolves into incivility." I would have thought it reached that point with your flaming, but now I know better: Don't disagree with Chekhov MacGuffin or you're a troll.
:::::::::I'm sorry, but did the woman who talks down to everyone just ask for someone to not be so condescending to her? Work on how you treat people, then you get the right make requests about receiving better treatment from people.
:::::::::And now I know you did not look up my IP, either that or your tools are extremely outdated. I've never so much as posted from the same city twice in a row, let alone the same area. The only commonality between my contributions to the internet is the proxy servers I use, even the device I use to access the internet is rarely the same. The only time my IP is not something that rolls over to the device is when a server goes down or won't accept the server.
:::::::::For the actual topic, you did say a majority determines handedness, that was a point you made repeatedly on Manga Fox. It's also a point you stuck by until the top IP had to request you talk about the details of these choices, which acts as evidence that you ran this list initially under the assumption that handedness is determined by abundance of uses and disregard cross dominance. Anyone who does the most modest amount of research can learn that all left-handed people are fairly more cross dominant than a right-handed person due to the fact that we live in a world designed for the right handed, a point Aoyama made previously in the case that named Takagi, and that you should be acknowledging that Gin, a known left-handed, is also cross dominant to a certain degree so that he can cope in our society. I don't know why you refuse to accept this - it doesn't change the fact that he's left-handed, it just means that he's more well equipped to use his off-dominant hand and has more dexterity. Likewise, I don't get why you refuse to accept that Akai does not measure up to Gin, since he does not use his right hand half as often as Gin does, your list proves it. [[User:BlackWings|BlackWings]] 21:50, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin/Handedness

2012-07-23T21:50:23Z

BlackWings: /* Handedness Article */

== Handedness Article ==

I'm not familiar with editing formats, so I'd like to make this request for you to personally handle. In the handedness article, you should include a very important detail into Akai's shooting in Chapter 504. Akai was using a right handed Bolt Action Rifle. This important because left handed people either order a left handed Bolt Action or hold them like a right handed person; the use of the Bolt is extremely awkward and difficult if a right handed Bolt Action is held lefty style, and vice versa. It could be a slip up on Aoyama's part, but it's worth mentioning since all we have is reasoning to draw Akai's hand on; it's possible this is meant to show us Akai is faking his left handedness and overplayed his part in this shooting.

Also, for the article in general, may I recommend a more detailed description of each person's movements with their hands? I noticed you discounted the possibility of Akai using a right cross against the bus jacker in Chapter 289, left out the fact that Akai was searching the fruit basket and had just occupied his right hand in Chapter 601 (unless your contention is that Akai knew right away that it was directly under the apple) and should also point out he started this search with his right hand, you left out when Gin used his phone with his right hand in Chapter 603 because he placed it in a right pocket due to the fact that at that time he needed his left hand for the laptop that was showing him the contents of the vans, and you put his assassination of Pisco in Chapter 242 as "Unavoidable," when this itself is an assumption; there are people in the world who can use a body part that's in extreme pain without drugs, so it deserves a mention if nothing else. Also, I think pointing out Vodka's watch changing hands as a continuity error in Chapter 383 is wrong because you already pointed out Aoyama erroneously had watches on dominant hands before that in the same section; it seems redundant and it's clearly Aoyama cleaning up his prior mistake. That's just what I noticed, and there may be more. - 71.126.239.180
:Hi 71.126.239.180, the the handedness article is actually a personal reference page because its a bit too specific to be a real article, but I welcome any and all corrections and additions. I looked into it, (read visiting [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Detective_Conan#Accuracy_International_Arctic_Warfare imfdb]) and the Accuracy International Arctic Warfare that Akai is using is indeed right handed, which I will make a note of. I think it is likely to be a slip up on Aoyama's part (lefties drawn/pictured using righty rifles happens a lot, so I've been told), because it would be the height of foolishness for Akai to handicap himself by using his off dominant hand on a one-try-only precision shot from 700 yards. Akai has been shown to prefer his left hand in other tense short-notice-to-react situations, like the scene with Vermouth.
:Regarding the other part or your request, sure I can make it more detailed, but that will take a bit of time.
:*289 was definitely a left handed strike because that was the hand Akai was swinging around to hit (this is from the manga, you can see the movement lines). If you are saying he was bringing his right hand around, that is unlikely; he was facing nearly backwards from the robber and squatting at the time meaning the rotation needed for a fluid hit with the right is impossible.

:*In 601, I do think he was expecting a bomb under the fruit (he thinks as much in the next panel!), and that he was freeing his left hand to grab it. It was someone else's gift, so it isn't exactly polite to set fruit down wherever, which he would have had to do if he was using his left handed only.

:*In 603, Gin actually has two radios in this scene which I should have clarified. I am assuming you are talking about the first radio (page 4) that he uses to talk to the motorcycle trio using his right hand. It's hard to tell from the art but it could be a radio connected to the dash with a cord because it has no antenna, so I will make a note that it could be unavoidable if it is corded, it would hang up on the right side of Gin on the dash. I don't see where he put it in his pocket. Gin likes to keep his hands in his pockets whenever he isn't doing anything with them, so I am not going to risk wrongly interpreting it as he put the radio in the pocket versus setting the radio down in his lap or something like that. This is especially the case if it is a corded radio.

:*I put the assassination with Pisco as unavoidable because Gin had an injury that limited the actions he could take with one of his hands. The inability to grip and stabilize properly because of gross tissue damage, Conan's tranq in his system, and general pain might throw his aim (Pisco might try to run for it.) if he tried to use his right hand. He would have used his left anyway, but because the option of using his right was limited, I listed it as unavoidable.

:*I plan to keep the note about Vodka's watch because it was an important clue in determining Vodka's handedness for sure - as a contrast to Gin, and I think it is important to note the point of transition.
:[[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 15:19, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

::It looks more like he's sideways to me, and if it is that's how you gear up a left outward chop, a left elbow, a right cross, and maybe a few other attacks. And you actually just made a new point for me. When you strike, you're supposed to put your whole body behind it. This could be another error by Aoyama, but it looks like more power would be given to a right handed attack with only minute accuracy errors; a right handed attack would be fine as long Akai's style isn't Krav Maga.
::The point I was trying to make with the fruit basket is that it's one thing to know/expect to find a bomb, it's another to know exactly where it's located. You're right, setting the apple down randomly would be rude, but the point I'm making is that Akai got lucky and the first fruit he pulled was directly over the bomb. What if it wasn't? What would his next move have been? And how does this effect the article? That's all I'm saying: taking the bomb should be an Unavoidable, not a Miscellaneous, and taking the fruit is tough to call.
::No, I was talking about the second device Gin used to talk with Vermouth, and I assumed it was his cell phone. The pocket was my mistake, I was looking at a darker scanlation and thought the seat was empty, and with his hand in his pocket I assumed he was reaching for it in there. However, my general point still remains the same: these moments belong in Unavoidable. On a few of these early pages a laptop or similar device that was feeding him the scans of the vans was on his lap, which, according to page 6, had him inputting commands of some kind (my guess would be moving between, and perhaps opening, the scans). The device he used to communicate with Vermouth is unavoidable due to where he placed it, and the device from page 4 can be considered unavoidable (regardless of any cord) since he was keeping his left hand ready to use the same laptop, and this laptop is an additional reason to suggest that even if the second was on his lap close to his left hand he would use his right hand. Additionally, putting the first device into his right hand can be attributed to the gear shift, so this is an additional moment that I think is better suited to Unavoidable.
::Fair enough. However, how about including this little description? Your reasoning's sound, but since the possibility of this being optional is still real without concrete evidence from Aoyama, I think this deserves noting.
::And the Vodka note was just an aesthetic suggestion. Like I said, including the previous note and this one makes the point sound redundant, but that's not necessarily a bad thing for a wiki.
::Final notes on the shoot out. We don't actually know which hand Akai made the all important, one chance shot with; nobody saw how he held the rifle until after he made that shot. For fairness to bolt actions, they're famously considered more accurate than semi-automatics. For the scene (and this could be a manga's limitations), Aoyama made Akai's final shots look like they were fired from a semi-automatic, so another possible artistic blunder is worth noting somewhere. And as a word of wisdom, nothing that can be used as evidence in a mystery story should ever be chalked up as an artistic blunder before the truth it is/could be evidence for is revealed or the creator and/or staff says so.
::Also, while I'm here, may I make one more request? A friend and I went over this series and this wiki, and I just noticed that a single idea we had was absent from the most logical of places on the site. Does a section or article concerning the possibility of a traitor in the FBI exist somewhere? - 71.126.239.180

:::Regarding Akai's strike, again Akai is squatting while facing away. He is in the middle of what clearly is going to be a left hand outside chop to the hijacker, so he must have been facing even more backwards when he started the attack. Since he was facing away from the robber and squatting, he didn't have much option for the attack.
:::He would have pushed the apple off to the side and grabbed another fruit.
:::I did list Vermouth's radio in grey which equates to no clear handedness. The reason I put it in the radio section instead of unavoidable is because Gin may have made a choice to set it down to his right in the first place instead of say, in his pocket. As we did not see the initial setup, its indeterminable, but not necessarily unavoidable. The first radio is considered handed, because he switched hands while holding it, meaning using it was not unduly handedness restrictive.
:::It is unlikely Akai switched hands. Switching hands would mean switching the side of the cheekpiece, adjusting the positioning of the scope from a cross eye configuration to a same side eye configuration, and then taking the time after that to recenter on the target because Akai dropped his form. It takes too long. I doubt Akai would even be able to fire back on Gin if he did all of that.

:::Regarding a traitor in the FBI, I think it is strongly unlikely for multiple reasons. The scope of the FBI I am considering is the group in Japan that we have witnessed. Other FBI I am not concerned about because they are not a part of the story so far.
:::*If there was a traitor in the FBI, Rena's holding location would have been known and thus there was no need for Vermouth to interrogate the child and act like she had found out new information - who would she need to fool when she is reporting it too her fellow Black Org members?
:::*Gin would not needed to deduce which van Rena was being held in. Sure, the Black Org could have followed all three at first to keep up appearances, but it was clear Gin did not initially know which van Hidemi was in and then deduced it on his own when he heard from Vermouth that Akai that was following the second van - a bluff.
:::*Conan appeared in front of the whole assembly of FBI during the strategy meeting of Red and Black. If a traitor has witnessed that, Conan would have been investigated if not killed ("accidentally" if that was the case) soon after Red vs. Black. If Conan was investigated, this would have likely led to the uncovering of Haibara Ai, as the people connected to Conan would be investigated. She could easily be spotted by someone tailing Conan to school while studying his movement routine for example.
:::The FBI traitor theory is not particularly common, nor is it is not supported by evidence so far. The wiki itself operates with an inclusion standard of strong and reasonable evidence for a theory to be included (See the [[Akai faked his death theory]] for example) unless it is particularly common and this one is not. If you want to create a personal user page of the theory with details and then ask on the main forum if it acceptable for inclusion, be my guest. That is what I did for the three theory pages that I wrote.
:::[[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 19:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

::::Alright, I'll concede the attack, but only cause I didn't consider that he had already turned a bit.

::::My stance on the fruit, however, remains. Had it not been under the apple, Akai would have used his left hand for the next fruit while putting the apple aside, and had that one hidden the bomb his right hand would have pulled the bomb up (at the same time, if he needed to move another, then we're back to his left hand holding the bomb). As such, I say it remains as follows: the right hand was his choice (and your theory on why is as valid as mine) and the left hand holding the bomb was Unavoidable as a result of the previous choice, but this was not an effort used for the bomb but an effort used for a search.

::::I'll agree with Gin's radios if you just include the laptop in your description - this last device was absent once again from the description, so it'd be a little premature to give total agreement.

::::As for the traitor, allow me to speak my mind on this subject:
::::- If there is a traitor, they don't want him/her compromised due to the value of having someone keeping tabs on the FBI. As such, Rena and Conan need to be something the Black Organization learns in its own time - if either (particularly Rena - after the DJ case Conan and the people around him are already sitting on the edge of a boiling pot) dies or is found prematurely, the traitor's existence is revealed and all value of having him/her in the FBI is gone; the traitor can only be exposed when in a position to destroy all files on the Organization, kill all agents connected to the case, and end their investigation permanently: since we're talking about the FBI, that means the traitor's in until death.
::::- You're acting off the assumption every agent who initially knew Rena's location at the end of this case are the only suspects - I'm a fan of the idea Camel's the traitor for this reason (among others - my friend falls more into the James Black idea using the above point with others).
::::- Twice in the Clash of Red and Black arc, Gin talked about an informant - the first was in Chapter 603, where the informant seemed to be unable to give him anything on the FBI's movements but did give Gin a back up plan he didn't want to use; the second was in Chapter 607 where the Gin knew the details of the investigation Camel was caught in. These aren't necessarily the same informant, but it does mean they had someone(s) watching the FBI even after they reclaimed Rena.
::::- Speaking of Rena, Gin seemed almost certain that Akai would come alone to meet with her. Additionally, when Scar Akai appeared, Gin's first thought in Chapter 700 was "Kir screwed me," not "Akai cheated death." He completely disregarded the idea that Rena was tricked just like the rest of them and instead said she and Akai were co-conspiring. - 71.126.239.180

:::::Just to let you know you can sign your posts using four tildes in a row (~) and can indent by using colons (:).
:::::I am not going to change anything about the fruit since we have moved into the realm of the the hypothetical. The list concerns what has actually happened as best as can be reconstructed.
:::::Can you explain again how the laptop has relevance to which hand Gin would choose for either radio that the position of said radio doesn't explain?

:::::Regarding the potential traitor, Gin's first informant was Vermouth looking for Akai's car. The second was someone they sent into the hospital. Gosho was being intentionally vague about the whole informant thing because he was actively encouraging the idea Camel was a BO spy up until he revealed that he was working with Akai on a secret plan instead. It is in the same vein as James Black making Akai sound like Gin in his first appearance.
:::::I think Camel and James Black are both loyal FBI. Haibara has been in the presence of both Camel and James Black; she had no reaction. Also, Akai trusts both of them, and he has a pretty decent sense for Org and not Org - he seemed to already have a hunch about Kir before Conan told him his end of things (recall his initial quote about bait 596.4 - she can't be "bait" sent deep into the Org if she is loyal to the Org after all).
:::::Besides, I don't know why you are assuming that having a spy in the FBI means the Black Org must act in an all (move only when able to destroy all info/agents/etc.,) or nothing fashion. Why can't the Black Org coincidentally be present for some function because, say, they were assassinating someone in the area? Or maybe someone else started investigating Kogoro for an incidental reason, like following up Gin's residual suspicions in the DJ case, and then finding Conan suspicious and encountering Haibara Ai. It is extremely easy for someone clever to create a series of plausible convenient reasons to act on info from a spy often without compromising him. For someone as important as Shiho, it is probable that action would be taken against her if there is easy opportunity to. They could arrange an accident: one of Agasa's inventions explodes, sabotage the beetle so there is a car crash, fire, hit and run...
:::::Regarding the red shirts case, Gin had that spiel about how he was excited to kill Akai again and had Chianti and Korn set up to kill him, so saying he was unconcerned with Akai being alive does not match with the manga. The reason Gin disregarded Rena being tricked is because there is no conceivable way Akai could have survived without Rena doing something tricky - she shot his on camera point blank and Gin and the Org monitored her the whole time. He doesn't know how exactly she could manage, but Gin doesn't have to because its pretty easy to make that deduction.

:::::There is no evidence I have seen for a spy in the FBI, and any vague suggestions, like Gin's informant line, can be adequately explained without resorting to postulating spies. Also there exists counterclaims (discussed earlier) that suggest there isn't one. Until there is some action or knowledge shown by Org that cannot be adequately explained without resorting to a spy, I personally will not postulate or base any theories on their existence because I think that is invalid and risky deductive logic.
:::::[[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 04:56, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::You're accused of socking because [http://tinyurl.com/dxzokac you referred to Chekhov MacGuffin as a different person] on Manga Fox, giving the impression that you were someone different. Additionally, you didn't leave Manga Fox, [http://tinyurl.com/cl4jjg6 you were banned] because you got caught using two accounts. Your original account is back now, but the Chekhov MacGuffin account is gone for good. You claimed to find Manga Fox boring weeks before you "left," so why you decided to hang around for those weeks and only took off after you had your theories challenged is quite baffling if you're really the great detective you claim to be.
:::::::::And really, who on Manga Fox hates you? Fanged Loathe made it clear you two butt heads and you certainly treated him with the same superior attitude you've displayed all over the internet, but nothing was there to say you were hated to the point someone would risk their own account just to do something so venomous. In fact, given the sheer number of people who post your theories and bent over backwards at your posts, I'm willing to say you're well respected on Manga Fox, negating your logic. However, if you really feel you were hated, then perhaps you should focus on becoming a better person and not blame all your problems on other people.
:::::::::If you wanted this page to be restricted to handedness, then you shouldn't have brought in Ad Hominem attacks and bolstered yourself up so much. You only have yourself to blame for this tangent.
:::::::::I didn't know that disagreeing with someone means a conversation "devolves into incivility." I would have thought it reached that point with your flaming, but now I know better: Don't disagree with Chekhov MacGuffin or you're a troll.
:::::::::I'm sorry, but did the woman who talks down to everyone just ask for someone to not be so condescending to her? Work on how you treat people, then you get the right make requests about receiving better treatment from people.
:::::::::And now I know you did not look up my IP, either that or your tools are extremely outdated. I've never so much as posted from the same city twice in a row, let alone the same area. The only commonality between my contributions to the internet is the proxy servers I use, even the device I use to access the internet is rarely the same. The only time my IP is not something that rolls over to the device is when a server goes down or won't accept the server.
:::::::::For the actual topic, you did say a majority determines handedness, that was a point you made repeatedly on Manga Fox. It's also a point you stuck by until the top IP had to request you talk about the details of these choices, which acts as evidence that you ran this list initially under the assumption that handedness is determined by abundance of uses and disregard cross dominance. Anyone who does the most modest amount of research can learn that all left-handed people are fairly more cross dominant than a right-handed person due to the fact that we live in a world designed for the right handed, a point Aoyama made previously in the case that named Takagi, and that you should be acknowledging that Gin, a known left-handed, is also cross dominant to a certain degree so that he can cope in our society. I don't know why you refuse to accept this - it doesn't change the fact that he's left-handed, it just means that he's more well equipped to use his off-dominant hand and has more dexterity. Likewise, I don't get why you refuse to accept that Akai does not measure up to Gin, since he does not use his right hand half as often as Gin does, your list proves it. [[User:BlackWings|BlackWings]] 21:50, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

== Re: BlackWings and handedness assumptions ==

Due to the non-existence of confirmed cases in the canon, all characters are assumed to not have any form of cross-dominance (including trained ambidexterity) and are either left-handed or right-handed. [[User:BlackWings]] 17:21, 13 April 2012
:I don't make any assumptions here regarding cross dominance or ambidexterity. I assume both are possible which is why I document everything to look for usage patterns. Even though I haven't included Kudo Yuusaku on this list I remember when I worked him up once, I decided there was a case for him being ambidextrous. Also there is some clear partial cross dominance going on for virtually all the characters using their communications devices because they often deviate from handedness as normal. I will add the assumption that I believe none of the characters are deliberately hiding their true handedness in the long term. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 23:53, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::Yes you do sweety, and you successfully missed my point. The fact is both Subaru and Akai are cross dominant, but you're insisting they're only left handed. There's an ample number of cases where they both swap out their hands for more than just communication devices, and the IP person pointed some of Akai's out for you. Subaru's are much more obvious, especially after the recent toothbrush in Chapter 812: he chooses his left when he's alone and in a private setting while choosing his right when he's out in public or when he knows people are around (whether or not they are trained or natural is unknown). Both of these characters are cross dominant, Subaru a total ambidextrous (trained or natural unknown, though the ash tray and bottle in 817 as well as his rescues of the Detective Boys lead me to say natural), Akai is mixed handed at the very least (he could, and probably is, a total ambidextrous like Subaru, but he's sealed his right hand for the most part), and the assumption no one is hiding their true hand was disproven by Subaru. This was my point in adding this detail.
::Additionally, moving on to more speculative arguments, you also dismissed cross dominance for Akai's sniping. Some cross dominance extends solely to certain tasks in which someone otherwise right handed can only/best perform a task with his/her left hand (commonly called mixed handedness, who are addressed as left-mixed or right-mixed handed, sometimes no "mixed" based upon the hand they use most often). This disproves your argument on why the panel of Akai holding a right handed rifle with his left hand is not deliberate on his part: even if he's a right-mixed handed, he could be better at shooting with his left, and would (as you pointed out) shoot with his left. Am I saying this is right? No, in fact I think he's an ambidextrous and that is an art error. The point is you dismissed cross dominance even though Akai is a clear case. (Also, how do you sign these things again?) [[BlackWings]] 15:09, 17 May 2012
:::You sign using four tildes is a row (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). I understand why you are suggesting cross dominance as a possible solution, however, the reason I am continuing to reject your assertions and support that Okiya and Akai are left handed because ''compared to other characters with known handedness'' Okiya/Akai does not show significantly more right handed use by comparison that would indicate cross dominance. Making the assumption that not every character in Gosho's work is cross dominant, which is reasonable as only 5-10% of the population is mixed handed last study I saw, then I can map out where characters fall on the spectrum of handedness use and start making judgment calls based on clustering and distribution in that relative spectrum. I am also drawing from more data than is presented here. Although only the main arc characters are on this list, I have been following lots of other characters (Conan, Ran, Kogoro, Takagi, etc...) and all of them have many situations where they use their non-dominant hands/legs/eyes/etc. significantly. They are not on this list because working up and formatting just 20-30 chapters of appearances for appropriate presentation takes multiple hours. You are free to confirm these observations if you wish. 
:::Here are my judgement criteria: 
:::'''Left-handed''': Left dominance with some right use within reasonable boundaries as determined by comparison with characters with known or well established handedness. (Reverse left and right to get the righty version.) 
:::'''Cross-dominant/partially ambidextrous''': Uses one hand more often, with non-dominant handedness occurring significantly more often than characters with known single handedness. (I haven't rigorously checked the London case, but Yuusaku seemed to be falling in this category when I scoped him out last. That might have changed with recent chapters.) 
:::'''Ambidextrous''': Uses both hands close to interchangeably. 
:::In addition, there are more criteria I use to judge: tasks people normally exclusively use their dominant hand for (if they have one) are given more weight in my judgements. Characters frequently alternate hands for holding cellphones, or which shoulder they hold their bag over for instance so those have less impact than, say, dialing or operating the touchscreen or firing a gun which is more exclusively handed.
:::Also, I throw (grey in list) or flag (green in list) situations where handedness may be forced or unnatural, for instance Gin using his right hand to hold his gun because he had to open lockers with his left, or Akai using his right hand to grab Conan's cellphone when it could be part of a trick setup.
:::Akai and Okiya, when using the criteria described and eliminating forced or suspected unnatural situations falls in the left handed category relative to other characters. Like virtually all the handed characters do at various points, they use their non-dominant hand in some situations when they could be using their dominant; however, these were in the minority and not significantly outside the "definite handedness cluster." This is the reason for my judgement.
:::Regarding the right-handed rifle, I honestly think art error is very likely. Gosho is almost certain to have drawn that rifle from a reference and most rifles are right handed. Like most people who never noticed this detail without it being pointed out to them, Gosho may not have realized that certain features of rifles are not necessarily ambidextrous.
:::For Okiya around Sera, if he is trying to hide his identity as Akai from Sera, pretending to be right handed makes sense, especially if his left hand is occupied doing something else surreptitious. Cross dominance might be indicated if Subaru suddenly turned out to be a good writer when using his right hand with Sera around, but unfortunately brushing teeth and pointing are things a totally left handed person can easily fake with no prior practice.
:::TLDR, I will continue to reject your assertions unless presented with significant evidence to the contrary because my evaluations have shown that all characters, even known handed ones, have non-dominant hand usage. Some-non-dominant usage is therefore expected and thus using these few cherry picked moments is unconvincing unless there is a disproportionate amount of them. Okiya and Akai's offhand use fall within the relative usage limits for single hand dominance, so I see them as left handed. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:55, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
::::It's interesting you use the word "compare," because that's the part I have doubts on. If you do compare Akai's actions to known left-handed Gin, you'll notice a serious distinction. In fact, you don't even need to go that far, simply look at Akai's. Akai has a total of three avoidable uses of his right hand (five if we count the IPs assertion of the busjacking and the fruit basket), compared to Gin's double digits. Now, if we remove the ones where Gin may have needed to use his right hand (Ex. 504 Shushes Vodka: possible necessity of keeping the handkerchief snug with the movement of the car) or the ones that strongly indicate left handedness (Ex. 1 Right hand holding pipe: indicates the pipe went to the right when it came down, in turn indicating a left handed grip - supported by the fact his left shoulder seems more prominent), we're down to four:
::::1 - Opened APTX container with left hand, while pulling pill out with right
::::502 – left to hold radio in one panel, then switched to right hand in next panel appearance, then back to left again for 2 panels, then back to right for two panels
::::Bear in mind, the last one contains multiple instances, but the point is Gin had a few actions where the right hand was a choice on his part. Even grabbing Korn's rifle is indicative of left handedness, given that he grabbed it by the barrel which is where his right hand goes anyway (it's easier and wastes less time this way). However, if we apply this to Akai's list, then he loses all avoidable right handed use (and I'll be skipping the three you already handled):
::::289 - Uses radio with right hand (standing) (given he was looking for Sherry and aware of some Organization presence, this is easily comparable to when he grabbed Ran in New York)
::::608 - right hand to hold cell phone and click buttons (he most likely realized he may need his left hand to stop James again, which seems likely given that Akai's truck needed to be started up and has the lever on the right - there's no other reason for him to keep his right hand occupied and waste time)
::::Your list is about how they never use their dominant hand in every avoidable situation, but Akai contradicts this theory, with every off-dominant action having a reason of necessity and/or simplicity that enable it to be argued away. Likewise, there's no action from his right hand that more heavily indicates left handedness (the only one being: 596 - left hand for phone, right for binoculars; and even this follows the "awkward logic" given that Akai's cell phone was most likely in a pocket meant for his left hand). Additionally, there's the shotgun from 434. Even Captain America, Red Skull, and the real life human guinea pigs of Super Soldier Programs would struggle with a one handed shotgun blast, not to mention the one handed pump wastes time in which he can keep Vermouth covered (and we saw the direct result of wasting that time when Vermouth positioned herself to put Conan, Ran, and Haibara in the path of the shell). All I'm saying is Akai defies your list's logic, and his right hand is unique among all others as the only one used only in unavoidable actions. This is especially unique when you consider all evidence suggests Akai seems to be naturally left handed. We live in a right handed world, most appliances are specifically designed for right handed use, so most left handed people learn to use their right hand frequently and become ambidextrous by accident. Akai's severe lack of avoidable right handed action is in no way normal, which indicates he's deliberately sealing his right hand.
::::Also, for Akai's rifle shot from 504. The point wasn't about his handedness, it's about the note. That probably is an art error, but the note is an argument that only applies in a world without cross dominance (no matter the person) and is instantly called into question when we see Akai does everything in his power to not use his right hand unless he absolutely has no choice in the matter.
::::Finally, a bit off this topic of Akai, but I put "southpaw stance" back in the Sera bullet and changed "high right leg sweep" to "right roundhouse kick aimed at the head." Stances are often used as a means of identifying handedness, that's the whole reason I put the stance there in the first place and used the rest to argue against this logic and point out an example in JKD classes. Otherwise, you may as well not even mention the specific moves and just say "fought with Ran." The leg in "leg sweep" refers to the target, not the attack. Sera's movement and the fact that her leg is turned to strike with the instep as well as the power of it makes me almost certain it's a roundhouse and not a crescent. (Sorry, forgot to sign) [[User:BlackWings|BlackWings]] 00:12, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

:::::This is not a wiki page. It's a personal page, so please don't edit it without consulting me first. I've pretty much said all I've needed to say to you regarding handedness, Fanged Loathe, both to your current username, and to your other IPs, and elsewhere, even after you decided to act like a total dick on my userpage and pretend like you could come back unnoticed. Don't like my evaluation? Please make your own and then maybe you can convince other people to accept it. I don't care to go around in circles with you anymore because it is uninformative. I've earned my reputation for accurate assessment here at DCW and at DCTP which are the two core groups of dedicated English language Conan fans on the internet. If you were really serious, you would not need to sockpuppet like you are trying to hide to try to make your point. You would sign up in the forum, and attack directly, under the scrutiny of the best group of Conan mystery solvers on the internet. I recommend DCTP where I am not a mod. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 01:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::::::Fine, I'm sorry I edit without permission, but the stance is important given that a large number of people associate stance with handedness (it's a false idea, but worth mentioning solely for the fact you mentioned more things that don't indicate handedness). After that, I don't know what you're smoking, but here's some things for you to chew on: if you have a reputation, you wouldn't need to boast about it, it would boast itself. If you don't like going "around in circles" then get out of the debating game, since that's precisely what it does prior to its resolution. And if your response to someone debating you is not a response but just attacks on the person, then the person in question is likely to "sockpuppet" just to get your attention and reopen this debate and deliver it to its resolution. I'm open to throwing in this towel, but you need to be willing to accept the irregularities of Akai's choices and the fact that he does not stack up as left handed in a comparison against Gin, accept that Akai's right hand is unusually underused. Otherwise, these moments of attacks are going to be frequent followed closely by "sockpuppeting" and a few people are likely to insist you take some magic mushrooms.
::::::Also, the start to that fight is called a Stop Kick or Jeet Tek (there's bound to be more names, but those are the two I was taught). Just as your note points out, the name suggests, and Sera demonstrated, the objective is to stop the attacker and the attack. [[User:BlackWings|BlackWings]] 21:24, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

::::::: Sorry, I just had to butt in here. Let me make sure I've got this straight: BlackWings says he's not a sockpuppet, even though he said he might be doing that because Chekhov doesn't like him. Chekhov MacGuffin says serious debaters don't need to sockpuppet to convince people of their theories, even though anyone who visits mangafox.me can see she was a sockpuppet. BlackWings claims to have come here to make a point on handedness assumptions, but then makes those same assumptions when he tries to explain Sera. Chekhov MacGuffin says BlackWings should debate the best Conan minds on the internet which she says she is one of, but when BlackWings does just that on this talk page she runs away saying she's not going to debate him and flames BlackWings. Is that right? You two need to start using the big kid potty, this page houses the most pathetic argument I've ever seen and a lot of it has to do with the fact that you're both making assumptions on handedness because you both know nothing about handedness and don't want to see how stupid your wrong ideas make you both look. Handedness is about dexterity, not number of uses or instinct. [[Special:Contributions/203.66.73.55|203.66.73.55]] 00:11, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I have no clue why people say I have sockpuppeted on Mangafox. I had a single account with less than ten posts that I gave up ages ago because there wasn't much interesting going on over there. I also made a Chekhov account which I have never posted with after I heard some people over there didn't like me for reasons I have no idea about -- in order to prevent someone from signing up and using that name maliciously. That's it. People who think I am socking are probably running into users who are reposting my theories, which is rather common. One of the administrators at DCTP stickied the thread where I keep my theories, and many users reference them there and on DCW, so they wind up getting a lot of exposure because of that. Between that page, and theory pages I posted here, they probably accumulated north of 75000 hits. Searching a sentence out of one of my theories reveals they are all over the place, not counting people who have paraphrased them or translated them into other languages.
::::::::I know BlackWings has been socking because I can easily search for IPs originating from the same area. Not unexpectedly, an IP from the same place [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/User_talk:Chekhov_MacGuffin#Handedness_Article posted before BlackWings made an account about this very issue, and promised to come back]. Even the other moderators took notice of his bad behavior. When he came back as BlackWings, I decided to give him another chance, but cut him off after watching him devolve into incivility again. If this is "running away" in your eyes, that's fine with me. I have no desire to deal with someone who has a history of bad behavior and shows no signs of acting in better faith this time around, and neither apparently do the other moderators. That said, I would appreciate it if you would be less condescending as well. ''As a general notice to anyone reading this, I would prefer the discussion focuses on handedness, and not users and their behavior because it has only resulted in unpleasant conversation.''
::::::::Back to handedness, I never stated that a simple majority determines handedness (although so far it seems that the majority does indeed match likely handedness in the cases listed). The assumptions I have made are listed on the page, and these assumptions are based off of prior statements from Conan's deductions or from observations of people with known handedness, and as far as I can tell are pretty non-controversial. All the list shows is that no character exclusively uses their dominant hand, there are situations which can force hand use one way or the other which need to be considered when making handedness judgements, and certain activities are more exclusively dominant handed (eg gun handling) than others (eg cellphone holding). The reason this list is comprehensive (minus recent chapters because I haven't done them yet) is to provide a convenient layout and easy references so someone trying to make a determination can weigh what activities are the most important to consider. I hope this clears this up. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 05:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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==Another Award==
{{Wiki Medal|image = Officer Tome.jpg|title = Wiki Medal of Diligence|message = Your extreme dedication, not stopping until the job gets done, truly is inspiring, and I don't think you get the recognition you so often deserve. So thank you very much for working so hard with not only updating collectibles, but with all the images and graphic edits you've made to help keep consistency and quality going here on DCW!! It really is noticed and certainly appreciated. :) - [[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 09:56, 25 September 2011 (UTC)}}
== Yumi Miyamoto ==
Gosh, the Yumi Miyamoto square picture looks a little pixelized. Maybe you can fix that later. :)
-- [[User:S261157|S261157]] 16:03, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

==Toru Amuro==
This guy's name is up for debate: Please vote "Toru" in http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/2689-that-amuro-guy

Pick "Toru" Its Toru! Toru still matches 徹 Toru Amuro! I'm super positive! Toru Amuro is a perfect name!!!!! Everyone please pick Toru! --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 15:19, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
:Sorry, I didn't seem to get to S261157 in time to tell him it's inappropriate to promote a certain vote. All the options are technically correct and are used in real life. Vote whichever one you think is appropriate. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:46, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Forget what I said. Please choose whatever you want.

== RE: Ref Links (Manga, MK Chapters, etc.) ==

The cool thing is that the Ref anime template (on which the Ref manga one is based off) already included a little trick for differentiating links from labels. :) Simply use the "l1=", "l2=", etc... parameters to determine a different label for each link. I made the changes [[Roller_Coaster_Murder_Case#Case_1:_Crime_at_the_Private_Mansion|there]] already. Just a question though. As you know there's already a "Manga source" line in the InfoBox of each anime episode. Doesn't that seem a bit redundant to add it to a Case section on the episode's page as well? I know we did it for manga files but that's because an anime episode is usually a collection of multiple manga files. However, we can't say the same for the other way around: no manga file is a collection of anime episodes. So, I'm just wondering about the use or necessity to have the ref to manga files. I guess the question is: does it add value in the end? I'm not against it though. Just wondering about why/where it could be useful. --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] [[User talk:Maurice|talk]] 03:48, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

== Much win in that IMBD link ==

^[[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 06:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

== Ha! ==

Was gonna create the movie page, but you beat me to the punch, as usual. :P Oh well, you do a better job than I~ [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 12:08, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

== That's okay ==
Oh no no no no no! That's okay! I understand! --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 06:10, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

== Re: Curiosity ==

They are probably left overs from the same guy who went through a long time ago and added a bunch of "fake" English voice actors for characters who were never in dubs. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 19:26, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

== Wait ==
Hold on, why are you deleting characters with keyhole volume links? We need the keyhole links to the characters. I just made a talk on characters page.
:Not Midori! Please stop! Midori appear many times! Like 4 times! Well what are you gonna do to the Characters in the cast section? Leave them in no links or just put in people section?
::Sigh.......................fine. But what about this. When you delete the characters, in episode articles, do want them to be in the People section instead?

== Redirects ==

If you see me restoring deleted pages, it's because I'm redirecting them to the appropriate page. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 21:22, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
:I forgot to tell you the reason I'm doing so it to fix the redirects on other pages that would be red links. It also keeps the edit history intact too. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 21:40, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

== Chance ==
Look Skyechan, sigh, I wanted to say it's not ridiculous for all those characters to have their own profiles. I've kind of understand it on the discussion. I think you're just thinking too much. But I'm telling you, its not such a bad idea. It is such a greatest idea ever. Characters with keyhole links and those anime only characters that appear at least two times should have their own profiles and it's a greatest idea. You should like reverse it back and make a vote. Ocianne and Chekov agrees, that's 2 votes, Me and Jigsaw disagree, that's 2 votes. So you should wait until it reaches to 10. I'm sorry I hate to say this, but.........I just felt so down about it. But I assure you, characters who has their own profiles is really great ever. So can you just take a vote until whoever reaches 10. Please? Just one chance! --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 15:48, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

== Can you take a look at this edit? ==

[http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Volume_75&diff=50901&oldid=49182 I don't remember if Yaiba appears, but it is worth a look because I think you did do the cast.] [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 01:43, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

== Re: Feedback on List Format ==

Thanks! You have good timing, actually, I just finished with the minor anime characters and was contemplating the notables. Out of curiosity, is there a particular case or Volume Generic and/or Arrack feature in, or are they recurrent in the Special Volumes?--[[User:Ocianne|Ocianne]] 03:44, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

== Report ==
On [[Yukiko Kudo]], information's been messed up and it says Vivian in background or personality. Favor, can you undo it? Sorry my computer is messed up. Can't undo it.
--[[User:S261157|S261157]] 22:18, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
:Never mind, never mind.

== DC covers ==

Is there a method to the DC covers' organization in the Volumes pages? I ask because I'd like to move the Taiwan cover to the end of the list -- the width of the cover puts the caption on two lines, and that messes with the formatting of the subsequent row(s) of covers, adding a lot of white space unless the browser window is wide enough for five covers per row. --[[User:Ocianne|Ocianne]] 07:49, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
: I tried rearranging the covers in Volume 1, but the only way to put Chinese directly after Europe without the risk of funky white patches would be to shorten the Republic of China (Taiwan) title to something like "Rep. of China (Taiwan)". Volume 1, at least, already has Korea between China and Europe, and the Chinese Malysian version separated too. Any preferences? --[[User:Ocianne|Ocianne]] 18:50, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

== MKspecial6 picture ==

I am wondering why you are using the smaller size for [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/File:Mkspecial6.jpg this picture] here. I would have thought the larger size would be preferable, as we haven't standardized episode picture sizes and it gives those hard of seeing or with vision impairments an easier time to have the option of making the image larger, especially when you have a relatively dark picture like that. I know the other MK pictures are the smaller size, but in the case where someone has already uploaded a larger one, it's a bit easier for me at least to view the larger one. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 13:59, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
:The pixelation is a jpg compression artifact. There is much less of that when using png. I do think shrinking the image makes it less usable though, if only because it makes things a bit more difficult for those with vision problems. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 01:57, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

== Deletion Vandal ==

That guy edited right around those pages I had those big messages on, so either he is malicious or so incompetent he might as well be malicious. Page protection is probably the best route as he seems to be able to pop up new IPs. It's annoying we have to protect at a critical time right now. I've protected most of Sera's pages as he seems to target those over Amuro's but I suppose we could cover both. Thoughts? [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 20:38, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
:So far there is a two week protect on Volume 73-76, Sera and Sera appearances. I went to the other pages he edited and put a three day short protect on those. It's not long, but considering he hits every day, he'll see his deletions are not wanted without doing too much collateral. We can unblock Sera when spoilers hit if necessary. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 21:19, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
::I missed the bit where they said they didn't like Sera. Where was that? [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 00:15, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

== Wrong order ==
Oh I see.

== People Section ==
This is a bit of Copy and paste since I asked other members about this earlier without anyone knowing the answer.
Have a question concerning the people section. Was taking a second look at the images in the people section to find the wrong image format and add missing ones when I noticed some of the reoccurring characters appearing in the people section as well as character introduction in those episodes. 
Eri Kisaki[[Coffee Shop Murder Case|(Ep032)]] and Shuichi Akai[[The Mysterious Passenger|(Ep230-231)]] first appearances is prime example of this so I first assumed it was because they where suspects/involved/Witnesses in those cases. Then I came upon other incidents like James Black's first appearance[[The Man from Chicago|(Ep258)]] where he doesn't appear in the People section but only the character introduction despite being the key character involved in a kidnapping case during his first episode as well as Kogoro Mouri, whom was a murder suspect in [[Kogoro Mouri, Suspect|(Ep 199)]] but only appears in the Cast section. Already checked the Manual of Style for a bit of guidance but couldn't find any answer to this. So just wanted to check with someone more experienced around here exactly what the set standard is for the people section and if a character should be in both the Introduction/Cast section and the people section when they get personally involved in a case or if those other times this has occurred is either mistakes or exceptions due that being their first appearances? 
My personal first impression when I found this site was that it was reserved mainly for characters that only makes their appearance in a single/dual episode and couldn't be counted as either Main or reoccurring character. 
--[[User:Cortax|Cortax]] 19:43, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
:That made me curious too. When I see Episode 3 that Yoko Okino in characters introduced and people section. Maybe it's like the characters introduced and she's like one of the possible suspects to the people section. If she appears more, she still be put to cast section.

For Kogoro Mouri, if he is one of the suspects to the murder case, he doesn't have to be in the people section, he has to be cast section. If it's new character introduced and one of the suspects to the case. They can be put to people section. That's what made understand when I first saw Episode 3. --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 19:44, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

== Larceny target table ==

The table looks quite nice. Thanks a bunch! Before I screw up your table more though, I have a question and a request. How do you list another item after the first? Also, can you add the option to have a displayed name that does not match the picture name in case the picture is uploaded under a different name? [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 04:48, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:Edit, it seems your table was cleverer than me. I figured how to stick multiple items together. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 05:04, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
::Awesome. TO THE ARTICLE! [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:57, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

== Help with tables ==

Thank you doing the template. :) --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] [[User talk:Maurice|talk]] 01:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

== Question ==
Does Conan know Kid's secret identity?
:Yeah, I knew it all along. I know Conan doesn't know Kid's identity because I remember the time that Conan demands Kid to take off his monocle but Kid refuses. That tells me that he doesn't know his identity. It's because the user name Wolfpup9 just put Conan in the list of characters who knows Kid identity. That made me confused so I had to ask you. So I was right all along. Thanks anyway.

== Request ==
Since you know the schedule of the episode that airs later in the future, can you show me the website that tells about Detective Conan episodes that's going to aired later or something? Like for example when you create the Phantom Hotel Deduction Showdown, it seems like you checked something and you knew the episode schedule in the future that's going to aired later. So can I see the future schedule of a website or something? :)
--[[User:S261157|S261157]] 15:18, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
:Never mind, never mind, never mind, I got it! :)

== Season 21 letter ==

Dear Skyechan,
[[User:S261157|S261157]] said that I let you know that EPS. 646 - Current is now in Season 21.
See for yourself :D [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Case_Closed_episodes_(season_21) List of Case Closed episodes (Season 21)]
--[[User:Noki25valenz|Ectvalenz]] 01:42, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

== Change my mind ==
Can you give me the website where you find Hostage Situation in Mouri Detective Agency thats going to broadcast later? I still can't find it. I want to see the website what's going to be new episodes in the future and when I checked this http://forum.dctp.ws/index.php?topic=7814.msg634993#msg634993 it doesn't say it. So can you show me one that's ahead or something?
:Gee, thanks! :)

== Latest Manga Chapter ==

The latest manga chapter now is File 806:The Inherited Shadow of the Dawn. --[[User:Noki25valenz|Ectvalenz]] 09:52, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

== EPS. 648 - 649 ==

Skyechan,the eps. 648 - 649 is not part 1 and 2 but outbreak and sniping.... --Reference Link---> [http://forum.dctp.ws/index.php?topic=7942.0 http://forum.dctp.ws/index.php?topic=7942.0]
--[[User:Noki25valenz|Ectvalenz]] 05:25, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

== Squished pictures ==

I noticed that <s>a few of the pictures you have been uploading lately</s> occasionally some pictures that users have uploaded have been squished, sometimes pretty badly. [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/File:TV_Episode_646-647.jpg This one is a bit compressed.] Do you see it on your end, or is it just me? [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 04:36, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
:I think it's better to upload a picture of a long rectangle picture shape. In old episodes, it looks like a 640 x 480 rectangle shapes but in the current time, we're going to upload a long rectangle shapes of tv episode images. As my request, I like to put another thing in manual of style about that we can upload image into 704 x 396 rectangle pictures in tv episodes (in current episodes). --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 17:22, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure the aspect ratio for the episodes has changed to a wider version, or the TV version crops the top and bottom, which might explain why the manual of style calls for more compressed pictures. I think the compression as is pretty bad, so I have uploaded a non squished version. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 03:04, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
:::I think the manual of style should say something along the lines of use whatever size makes the correct aspect ratio. Should it be 640 x whatever or whatever x 480 though? [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 03:55, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== Chapters and Files ==
I just changed file to chapter because all characters have "chapter" labeled in Manga. But if it's file then all right. Next time I'll change all characters that says chapters into "File". --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 03:38, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== Changing a title of the episode ==

How do you change a title of an episode?
--[[User:Noki25valenz|'''Ectvalenz''']]
:I finded that the title of EPS. 648 - 650 is The Case of the Besieged Detective Agency (at the top)--> [http://dctp.ws/V77-Reader/V77-3Read/A2.html http://dctp.ws/V77-Reader/V77-3Read/A2.html] but in this link --> [http://dctp.ws/V77-Reader/V77-3Read/A2.html http://dctp.ws/V77-Reader/V77-3Read/A2.html] it says Hostage Situation at the Mouri Detective Agency...... What title do we use? --[[User:Noki25valenz|'''Ectvalenz''']]

== Change of episodes ==

Skyechan,pls. see the latest news of the upcoming episodes ---> [http://forum.dctp.ws/index.php?topic=7942.0 http://forum.dctp.ws/index.php?topic=7942.0] Thank You!!!! There is a change of episode 651. It is now a 1 Hour Special. Manga Based on File 778 - 780. Translate the japanese sentence before the english title and you'll see the sentence 1 Hour Special. :D --[[User:Noki25valenz|'''Ectvalenz''']]
: Eps. 651 is a 1 Hour Special :) -- [[User:Noki25valenz|'''Ectvalenz''']]
:: And,Eps. 650 is (Release) not (Finale) --> [http://forum.dctp.ws/index.php?topic=7942.0 http://forum.dctp.ws/index.php?topic=7942.0]

== Delinking names ==

I am curious why you are delinking red linked voice actor names in the episode guides. Even if they don't have important roles, you can click the names and see who else they acted in other episodes by clicking "what links here" on the create a page which I thought might be useful to someone. It also would reduce the work someone would do down the line if you had to relink them. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 21:22, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
: I wouldn't fill in all the links, but someone else might. You never know. Filling in red links is only the problem of whoever wants to make it their problem. I like red links because they let people know what they might do at some point. Want me to switch them back for you? [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 01:38, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

== My previous reply. ==

Hello. I noticed I forgot to do this last time, but thank you for actually replying to my concern. However, there was nothing following my reply, and I'd like to know if you actually read it and if there's more you can tell me. It's back on my talk page, since I'd prefer not to extend this over two talk pages unless you're more comfortable doing this here. I hope to hear back soon, since I may be gone for a long while again after this. [[User:BlackWings|BlackWings]] 03:11, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

User talk:BlackWings

2012-05-28T16:43:13Z

BlackWings: /* In regards to what's been going on */

User talk:Maurice

2012-05-27T22:28:17Z

BlackWings:

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== Collectibles Table Template ==

Hey Maurice! Thank you for making a template for the collectibles. There seems to be a minor problem though. Looking at the Collectibles page it seems that there's an error somewhere in the coding for the template; information entered in doesn't seem to appearing correctly. Thanks in advance! :) --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 02:25, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

== Something's wrong ==

Maurice-sama, something's wrong that we can't upload images. Can you fix the problem? --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 20:30, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

== Hello! ==

Hey Maurice, kinda new here. Hope that you will be able to teach me new things here =D -- [[User:Yoyoboiboy|Yoyoboiboy]] 7:55, 6 May 2011 (GMT+8)

== Advice ==
Maurice-sama, can you try to contact Shogakukan at info@shogakukan.co.jp? I try to ask them a question of that they can contact the authors like Gosho Aoyama. But they won't respond to me. I was thinking maybe it was the tsunami problem. There's also another thing that I just don't get it. If the Detective Conan manga always get published at Shogakukan. Why don't they ever respond to my question? Of course I send them a message by using Japanese language and English message (just in case) but why won't they ever respond to me? So you know I was kind of asking you a favor. Can you try to contact Shogakukan at info@shogakukan.co.jp? --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 04:27, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:Uhm....hello? Aren't you going to answer me? I just want to talk to you. Can you talk to me about it? The Shogakukan? --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 20:20, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

== One page or multipage case? ==

What do you do for pages when you have a single case that takes up multiple episodes, but doesn't follow the 'Episode name part 1/2" naming format? Specifically I am referring to [[The Crisis Beckoned by the Red Omen]]. It started as multiple pages, one for each episode, [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/index.php?title=The_Crisis_Beckoned_by_the_Red_Omen&oldid=28473|then was collapsed into one page for all the episodes] like the usual 'Episode name part 1/2" cases are, then it has since been expanded back into one page per episode. What is proper here? [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 02:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
:That's what I thought, but I didn't want to get into a revert war with S261157 without being sure I was doing the right thing. "Tomorrow is there" is the manga chapter name for the entire suicidal guy case which became 2/3rds of the first episode of that series. "Thirteen red shirts" I made up; not the best idea, but I figured it was descriptive. I could go with "Hint of Red and Thirteen" which was a manga chapter name for the thirteen red shirts case. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 03:05, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

== Please ==

Maurice-sama please I beg you!! Please chage the way it was before. I so do not like this. On [[The Crisis Beckoned by the Red Omen]]. Thats's not how it supposed to be!!! One episode has to be one episode! Yeah of course it's like 1/2 cases but still, please chage it back please I beg you! It's my turn to ask you and please can you do it? --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 21:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

== Need third opinion ==

There is a minor edit war going on Vermouth in the non-aging section. You can follow my series of responses on the [[Talk:Vermouth|Vermouth article talk]] page, since the user replaced their talk page with "If you're not going to read my posts and ignore details, like the fact that an additional adjective is necessary, completely ignore the presented reasoning, and cast your unsubstantiated reasoning as a fact, then I'm just going to allow the talk page to stand like this and eradicate all speculations from the site. If you undo that, then congratulations, you've made me not able to trust a word this wiki has to say."

My rose tinted view of the argument are that basically I asked Wildcardmma to back up his/her statement that Vermouth has shown suicidal tendencies with references without success. (Note that I didn't remove said suicidal line from the article while the argument was in progress.) Without references, I suggested a compromise that avoided the word suicidal without effectively changing the content or meaning of the line: "However, given that Vermouth has said depressing things over the course of the series, both as a role she plays and as herself, it is possible she took the drug hoping to die, but was made younger like Haibara". it seems Wildcardmma was not pleased with this suggestion. 
Also there was a disagreement about what the Black Org was doing by using APTX 4869 on people. Wildcardmma said field testing, I said murder weapon only (and provided multiple quotes to this effect). It really didn't matter to the content of the article as far as I can tell, but may have fueled her perception I was trying to force my own way, or something like that. 
In the middle of all this, an IP came through and deleted the section because it contained speculation. (Edit summary: Wikis are supposed to be about facts. That paragraph was a statistical analysis and conclusion that may not be right, which led to the addition of possibilities by certain user(s).) I reverted because there is no policy against speculation (assuming it is informed and referenced), and because speculation sections (with competing ideas) are widespread across virtually all plot and plot character articles. 
Basically, I think I have handled this as best as I can, but I hoping to get your opinion on this, and suggestions on what to do with speculation sections. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 19:46, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
:[http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Wildcardmma&rcid=28941 And this]. Because I am involved I feel like it would be better for someone else to warn the user. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 19:49, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

==An Idea==

Can we have a topic for the names of the characters in Other dubs? So far, I have done Arabic, French, German and Mohorovicic done some of the Korean when he was still in DCW. If you want to see it, click [[User:Conanshinichi/sandbox|here]]. Thanx--[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 17:39, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

==RE:User-specific templates ==

Right fixed, please let me know if I'm doing anything else wrong.

Thanx---[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 14:17, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

== Letting you know ==
This is 69.150.21.53, Just to tell you that User:MichelleBrinegar is uploading images of people into rectangle shapes instead of square shapes on [[Conan: A Strange Child]] and [[The Great Dog Coeur's Triumph]].
:Dealt with it for you with a friendly message. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

==Detective Boys Template==

Can I use it? [[User:Conanshinichi/test|link]]
thanx--[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 15:47, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind thanx. --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 20:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

== Suzuki Sonoko ==

The IP who changed that just now is a long term vandal who vandalized Eisuke once, but since then adds random characters to various episode cast lists. He's a low frequency vandal (less than once a week) who generally only makes a small number of bad edits at a time. I've never seen anything productive out of him. The IPs used so far are
*180.190.163.16 - (Philippines Makati Gbb-vismin-ip-pool) (180.0.0.0 - 180.255.255.255)
*180.190.173.208 - (Philippines Makati Gbb-vismin-ip-pool) (180.0.0.0 - 180.255.255.255)
*180.190.185.97 - (Philippines Makati Gbb-vismin-ip-pool) (180.0.0.0 - 180.255.255.255)
I don't think there is much we can do about him at this point, but I wanted to let you know he existed so two people could be looking for him. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:08, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

== Changing names of the image ==

Maurice-sama, I have a question for you. How do you change the name of the image? How? --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 20:20, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
:And how do you delete the image?

== Permission ==

Thank you anyway. And here's I really want to ask you. Can I move "Kaitou Kid" into "Kaito Kid"? Reason: The title is Magic Kaito so it's supposed to be "Kaito". --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 20:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
:Um hello...........I'm asking you for permission.
::So all I have to do is wait? That's it?

== Case image ==
I thought it was supposed be like this: Case 1 that "1" is meaning Part 1.

== New Here ==
Hi I'm new here. Just letting you know. If there's anything I should know please tell me.
[[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 15:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

=== Thank You! ===
Thank you for cleaning up the Gallery Page I created, I was going to leave it and find an admin to clean it and you saved a lot of time, so thank you. I apologise if the pictures aren't very good quality. I just noticed that there aren't any DC Websites (that I could find) with Episode Galleries, this is a good website so I wanted it to be the first so I started uploading pictures. I need to get to grips with this website - I'm an Admin on the Pokemon Wiki you see. If there are any problems I'm guessing I can come to you for help! [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 17:23, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay so should I just take this Episode as a one off and add 30 relevant pictures (that way my hard work isn't put to waste) and then on Episode two (and all the other Episodes) have only thirty like you said? Or should I delete all the Episode 1 pictures and start off fresh with just minute by minute pictures with a maximum of thirty? [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 17:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I've removed some irrelevant pictures for more space. If I end up having over 30 when I finish I'll try and delete as many as possible. [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 17:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

The Gallery's complete - 30 Images exactly. Feel free to make any adjustments and give me constructive criticism. Change the captions if you like. I'll move on to Episode 2 the day after tomorrow. I won't always be able to work this fast as I have school 5 days a week, but that doesn't mean I won't stop trying! [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 20:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I have no idea why the jpg is in capitals, if I figure out how to stop it I'll try but for the moment I'm clueless. I'll move on to Episode 2 and use your advice (I was going to change the first frames but I think I'll leave it and try to do it minute by minute on Episode 2 instead of frame by frame). [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 14:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

== [[:File:Detective_1.jpg|File Sherlock Holmes]] ==

Hello Maurice, im rikku, a user from the german dcw. id like to ask, whether we can use the file named above in the german wiki as well. as [[USer:Philipp S.|philipp s.]] has told me, the german manga volume #1 doesnt provide aoyamas drawing for the detective picture book. certainly, there will be some kind of acknowledgment. yours, [[User:Rikku|Rikku]] 18:53, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks a lot. [[User:Rikku|Rikku]] 20:40, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

==Interwiki links==
Hello again. a few month ago we started connecting the articles from both of the german and this english dcw. after we had some difficulties in the beginning of 2011 we finally could add a lot of the interwiki links to your wiki until now. im planning to check (and fix) the links regularly with my [[de:Benutzer:RikkusBot|bot]] as well. id like to offer my help, adding interwiki links to the german wiki in your wiki, since the bot is checking back links anyway.
# i can publish the warning list somewhere here in the wiki, so you can add the correct interwiki links manually, or
# if it is ok for you, i can ask my bot add missing back links directly.
please let me know, what you think about this. yours, [[User:Rikku|Rikku]] 18:53, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

:Hello Maurice. thanks a lot for your friendly reply. i havent added any interwiki links until now, since i have some problem to connect via api. i hope i can fix this soon. im very sorry i couldnt be much help until now. [[User:Rikku|Rikku]] 20:40, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

== Episode 2's Gallery ==

The gallery for Episode Two is complete. Just giving you a heads up. [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 15:38, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

I noticed you improved my captions on Episode 1's gallery, could I keep telling you when I finish a gallery? And then you change the captions? Only your captions are better than mine. Or to make it even quicker for me to upload, would you like me to upload them and you caption them?

[[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 15:49, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

== Introduction, Question, and Suggestion ==

Hello there Maurice. I've been a member of this wiki for a good while now, mostly as a reader, but I have recently become more active around the site. Seeing as how I've pretty much spammed the Recent changes page a few times, I figured I should just introduce myself and thank you for running such an awesome wiki! Believe me, I've seen some pretty awful ones, so it's nice to see someone so dedicated!

Anyways, I have a question for you since I am posting here. Could you take a look at [[Template:Movies|this]] template I made and see if it's alright? I mostly copied and pasted from pre existing navigational boxes, and I think it works as it is right now, but the font looks kind of funky, and I'm not sure if I have the coding right following my edits. I did intend to center the movie titles and keep them all in one box/row, however, which is why I am slightly concerned. Since none of the other templates I could find on the site used the format I was looking for, I had to improvise to the best of my ability. Sooooo, yeah. Haha. Thanks!

Lastly, I have a request. Or rather a suggestion. I absolutely LOVE the whole plot legend system you have going for the manga, and the symbols you added look great (particularly the one for the Black Organization). When I looked up the B.O. icon, it said you were the author of the image, so I thought it best that I ask you this: Could you make an icon representing Kaitou Kid related chapters? Perhaps you can model it off of the B.O. one I keep mentioning. Just a suggestion/request. Either way, you did a nice job setting the whole system up! Visuals and organization are what keep me coming back to informational sites such as this one after all. :P

Thank you for your time and good job again on running this site! :D Hope to hear back from you soon!

== Kaito Kid ==
This is 69.150.185.236, Oh Oh Oh! On Plot system, make Kaito Kid's drawing as a symbol just like he put on those letters!
== Help ==
This is 69.150.185.236, I have a problem, I can't put Kaito Kid symbols in OVA plots. I try preview but it's not showing Kaito Kid's symbol.

== Confusing ==
This is 69.150.185.236, this is confusing. On [[Chinatown Deja Vu in the Rain]], I'm not so sure that Hama is last name. I just put Hama Mike. Confusing when there's English and Japanese together. Is it Mike Hama or just Hama Mike?

== Watch Section ==

Do you think we should have a watch section for Episodes? I'll do an example on Episode 1, have a look and then tell me your thoughts - if it's a bad idea I'll remove the section immediatly. [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 17:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

== A Few Things ==

I'm still figuring out how to properly respond to comments left on Talk pages, so I apologize if this is in the wrong place. As for this oddly formatted response, I'm pretty much OCD about everything looking nice, so this is my attempt at fitting everything in with one edit and still being organizaed. So, anyways, here we go...

=== RE: RE: Introduction, Question, and Suggestion ===

Thank you for your kind words about my kind words! lol I'm glad to hear comments such as my previous help motivate and encourage. I really do appreciate all of the hard work that this entire community put into the site. Detective Conan is an amazing series that I believe goes unappreciated at times. Communities and projects such as this Wiki really help spread word of the series and how dedicated the fans are! Kudos to you for starting this great site, and to everyone for maintaining it! I'll be sure to continue contributing because, just like yourself, I have enjoyed myself thus far! Thanks again! Oh, and the Kaito Kid symbol looks great! I've already seen it being integrated and it seems to be working out well! Thanks for listening to my request!

=== RE: Juzo Megure Appearances ===

Thank you again for your kind words! As for Wiki experience, I do have some. A few years back I contributed to Wikipedia frequently, but all the vandalism, rules, and arguing just took the fun out of it. It's been a few years since then, so I've gotten a little rusty, but I'm starting to get back into the hang of it. Smaller communities such as this seem to be more dedicated and enjoyable anyways, not to mention far less confrontational. Sure thing! You can count on me! :)

=== FBI Template ===

In my attempt to better organize and group together various articles, I decided to try and make a template for the FBI. Unfortuneatly, I can't quite decide on how the template should be organized. I've listed two of my different concepts below for you to visualize. Particularly with the second template, I used coding from other tables on the site to help me format. I'm not sure about what order the names should be listed in, or what color scheme should be used for the table overall, but I think those are pretty easy edits. If you could take a look at the two templates below and tell or show me what you think in terms of coding, organization, and edits needed for the final product, I'd greatly appreciate it! Thank you!

====Template 1====

For the first template, I tried to integrate the FBI ensignia within the formatting. Perhaps the coding can be tweaked or image shifted to the right, but I think the template came out looking pretty nice. There aren't many articles at this point concerning the FBI for me to use in the template, so I simply listed all current agents on one row. The names are all to the right of the ensignia, centered with the remaining empty space. For the sake of information, I added Scar Akai next to Shuichi as his true identity has yet to be revealed. That can be reworked or removed entirely.

{|style="clear: both; background-color:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #a6a6a6; width:50%; margin: 8px auto 0px;" class="bonav collapsible"
|-
! colspan="2" align="center" style="background-color:#738FC3; font-size:95%; padding: 1px 5px 1px 8px;" | <div class="noprint plainlinks navbar" style="float: left; width:6em; text-align:left; font-weight: normal; font-size: xx-small; color: #ffffff;">[[:Template:Federal Bureau of Investigation|v]] • [[:Template_talk:Federal Bureau of Investigation|d]] • [{{fullurl:Template:Federal Bureau of Investigation|action=edit}}e]</div> '''[[Federal Bureau of Investigation|Federal Bureau of Investigation]]'''
|-
| [[File:FBI logo.png|100px]]
| align="center" | [[James Black]] • [[Jodie Starling]] • [[Shuichi Akai]] ( [[Scar Akai]] ) • [[Andre Camel]]
|}

====Template 2====

The second template I created simply follows the formatting used [[Template:Black Organization|here]] and [[Template:Detective Boys|here]]. Again, with so little information to go off of, I could only things into two rows: 'Active Agents' and 'Deceased Agents'. If consistence is important, this template is probably the better one to choose. On the 'Deceased Agents' row, I listed Akai Shuichi and Scar Akai, as his death is still up for debate. I would put Jodie's father here as well, but his name is unknown and he has never actually appeared to my knowledge. Anyways, height, width, and overall perimeters can be adjusted if need be, and again, some coding may need to be worked on. I'm slowly but surely getting the hang of Wiki format.

{|style="clear: both; background-color:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #a6a6a6; width:50%; margin: 8px auto 0px;" class="bonav collapsible"
|-
! colspan="2" align="center" style="background-color:#738FC3; font-size:95%; padding: 1px 5px 1px 8px;" | <div class="noprint plainlinks navbar" style="float: left; width:6em; text-align:left; font-weight: normal; font-size: xx-small; color: #ffffff;">[[:Template:Federal Bureau of Investigation|v]] • [[:Template_talk:Federal Bureau of Investigation|d]] • [{{fullurl:Template:Federal Bureau of Investigation|action=edit}}e]</div> '''[[Detective Boys|Federal Bureau of Investigation]]'''
|-
| width="120" align="right" style="width: 100px; font-size:90%; background-color:#C0C0C0; padding-right: 5px;" | '''Active Agents''' || style="padding-left: 5px; font-size:90%;" | [[James Black]] • [[Jodie Starling]] • [[Andre Camel]]
|-
| width="120" align="right" style="width: 100px; font-size:90%; background-color:#C0C0C0; padding-right: 5px;" | '''Deceased Agents''' || style="padding-left: 5px; font-size:90%;" | [[Shuichi Akai]] (See [[Scar Akai]] for more)
|}

=== Finale ===

I write a lot sometimes, so hopefully all of this doesn't overwhelm ya! lol Thanks for listening! --[[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 22:50, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

== Video File=Media File? ==

Is it possible to upload videos to this website? I know you can upload Media Files so would a video count? It's a video of Episode 1 with subtitles. I was thinking maybe if I did Episode Galleries and videos that would be even better for articles. Also maybe we could adapt the watch section of this wiki (I know it's broken atm) and link it! Also that means that if school ever stops me from taking the time to create galleries I can still upload videos! Let me know your thoughts!
[[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 16:52, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Or I could re-link the watch section to valid links - it's a huge task but I'm up for it!
[[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 17:02, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

== Award ==

Sweet! Thanks!! :D --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 03:31, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

== No Images ==

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/The_Eyewitness_Who_Did_Not_See On the people section there are a lot of redlinks, would you like me to re-upload or replace the images?
[[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 12:27, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm also working on the Grass Court Queen/Holmes Revelation people. For the characters I definitely know, I'll add the images. Also is Hestia the woman in sunglasses? Because I've uploaded the woman in sunglasses as her.
[[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 12:44, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

==Foreign Languages thing==
How about instead in every Character's Article, we'll put a table called <nowiki>'In other Languages'</nowiki>?
Like this would be an example for [[Shinichi|Shinichi's]] Topic:
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Language
! Name
|-
|日本語　Japanese
|新一　Shin’ichi
|-
| English
| Jimmy
|-
| Français (French)
| Shinichi
|-
| Deutsch (German)
| Shinichi
|-
| عربي 　(Arabic)
| سنشي 　Sinshi
|-
| 한국어 (Korean )
| 남도일 Nam Doyle
|}

thanx - --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 17:46, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

== From IP 109.235.49.143 ==

Chekhov MaccGuffin

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Talk:Vermouth#Confusing

Over the course of this page, I find that Chekhov has been less than considerate of other users' theories, and has said that a wiki is meant for just such behavior. I find it hard to believe that someone like this would be made moderator. He even went so far as to repeatedly ignore what I and two other users wrote when making his points. As another IP said, such behavior and a position of power casts serious doubt on anything posted on this wiki. I understand there's going to be debate, but that's not what he's after; this behavior is more akin to single-mindedness. I also found that he chased a certain user away, and evidently the other IP is not returning. And to be fair, I'm also not returning either once this situation is over. Clean up you moderator's behavior towards other users, or I'm going over your head.

==Foreign thing help!==
Right, so I when I started to add them to the Character pages such as [[Shinichi Kudo|Shinichi's]] [[Conan Edogawa|Conan's]] and [[Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya|Mitsuhiko's]], I realized I might need to make a Template, so eventually I made the [[Template:CharLang|Template]] but I want to as you a question:
How do you make it so that the languages only appear if you type.
Example if you write only the Korean one so
<pre>
{{CharLang
|korean-name = 코난 Konan
|korean-surname = n/a
}}
</pre>
Which becomes:
{{CharLang
|korean-name = 코난 Konan
|korean-surname = n/a
}}
How do you get rid of the Other Languages???
Can you please put the code for it to work. Becuase it kinda does for the [[Template:InfoBox Char|Character Table Template]]
Can you please reply once you fixed the problem.
thanx ---[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 20:14, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

== Heads up on Vermouth issue ==

I've been dealing with, or trying to deal with, an IP over the issue of Vermouth's aging issue speculation section. There are a few IPs involved tracing to different locations but I am pretty sure they are the same user because on a wiki that gets maybe 50-100 edits a day total, and most IP edits to case pages, we have two separate IPs with the exact same viewpoints and editing style and one suddenly comes to the other's defense without any other editing elsewhere when you can have weeks between substantial IP edits in any character pages. You can read the discussion on [[talk:Vermouth]], but to summarize, the issue has primarily been over references and interpretations of references. This user has not taken kindly to the fact that I have challenged various edits of theirs and undid some of their changes after I categorically referenced the statements the IP removed with difficult-to-dispute references. There is also a lot on nitpicking over words and phrasing and stuff. The user has deleted the speculation section twice and I've reverted. I've kept reasonably civil and focused on the article despite various accusations the IP has made. A third person view would be nice. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 21:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
:I am damn impressed you made it through that discussion, enough to resort to an expletive. I am/was confused about something the user was trying to say so I am not surprised the discussion involved circles. It go so long I could hardly keep track of what was said. Thank you for responding. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:05, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
::Orange boxing you again, but based on what the user said about me chasing away "three people" and I remember talking to the previous IP about sockpuppeting, I bet the IP is [[User:Wildcardmma]]. That's all. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 23:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

==Template:CharLang==

Yea you can [[Template:CharLang|delete this template]].--[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 10:45, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

==RE:Template Begin_Table_OtherLang==
fix'd --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 14:18, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

== Appreciation ==
Thank you for the medal, Maurice-sama. --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 15:51, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
==Favour==

Can You upload [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Poland.svg this file]so [[Detective_Conan#In_other_languages|this]] could work please? thanx
--[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 22:07, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
:Could you upload [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Russia.svg this] for the same reason please? thanx --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 22:18, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

==An Idea==
Well, I have an Idea that I've seen in other wikis. Could we have a Detective Conan in <other country?>? If so, I'd do ''Detective Conan in the Arab World'' and Possible ''Detective Conan in France''. Thanx [[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 22:41, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
==RE:RE:An Idea==
Yea that's what I meant, so Can I do it?--[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 17:12, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
:Right I made a draft [[User:Conanshinichi/Detective Conan in the Arab World|here]].Is it good enough? I'll put more information later. --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 18:04, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
==Help!==
Right I want to make a Cast Table in [[Detective_Conan_in_the_Arab_World#Cast|this section]]. I want it to be exactly like the one in [[Cast]], but without the picture section for the Voice Actor Section. Can you do that for me please? Thanx --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 22:07, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
:I can't get a picture of it. Sorry, do can you alter it?--[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 15:17, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks very much, I also used it in the [[Detective Conan in France|France Article]] --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 16:27, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
==Delete this template==
Yea, can you delete [[Template:AnimeCharacter|this]] please? thanx -- --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 17:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) hi]] 19:27, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

== Character List Images ==
I know that there's a way to change what name is displayed in the character list using something like Char|Shinichi Kudo|display=Shinichi; is there a way to do something similar to change what image appears for the character? I think it'd be neat to be able to use live action images of the characters for the drama episode pages like here: [[Drama Episode 1]]. It seems bizarre to have the anime images on that page in my opinion. --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 03:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

== Episode Template ==

Why are there pictures in some Episode Templates? (e.g Episode 1) and some title screens in others? (e.g. 591) Is it better to have pictures or is it better to have title screens? If pictures then I'd love to help change as many title screens as possible!
[[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 16:08, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

== 69.148.232.113 ==

Can you please talk to this user for me? I assume it is the same person that the site has had problems with in the past. I've been working on a project for the wikia offline quite a bit recently, but my recent unrelated edits (not related to images) have been reverted and deleted and vandalized consistently by this person. While I realize that a Wikia is a community working together for a joint-purpose, some of his edits and comments are just unnecessary and immature. If this is the same person that people have complained about in the past, then I don't think it would be wise for me to confront him. [[Special:Contributions/69.148.232.113]] This recent edit comment "(→People: OMG, Jigsaw. She has a name. What is wrong with you!!!)" really bothered me. Perhaps I am taking this too personally, but I don't appreciate spending the time I do on here just to get attitude and have my contributions criticized. --[[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 21:11, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

::Thank you very much! I appreciate your kind words. :) Yeah, I normally wouldn't let it get to me; perhaps I was having an off day. --[[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 16:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

== Sorry ==
This is 69.148.232.113, Ok look I'm sorry really. Ok I'm sorry sorry sorry. I'm just telling that to do it right. That's all really, honest.

==Home page for DCW==
Can I ask you something, why does the front page have a really old featured article? That was there for like since I knew about DCW, which was a year ago. I presume it's probably older? thanx --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 21:44, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

== Affiliating with Other DC Wikis ==
I know we somehow managed to affiliate with a German DC Wiki, and I recently stumbled across a French DC Wiki during research for collectibles. It doesn't have much on it yet, but it looks like it's off to a great start. Unfortunately I don't speak French, but I was curious if we could try asking if they'd like to affiliate with us. It'd be great for the "World" part of our name to become a reality and connect many different DC fans around the globe through our wikis. The wiki is called the "Black Org" and is found [http://black-org.fr.nf/wiki/Bienvenue_sur_Black_Org here] --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 17:16, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
:Funniest part of this is that Maurice speaks French. :x This would be a PERFECT idea!! [[User:CarpetCrawler|'''''Carpet''''''''''Crawler''''']][[User_talk:CarpetCrawler|'''''message me''''']] 21:53, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
:: Sounds fair enough. We'll keep checking back on them in the meantime. :) --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 00:17, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
::: Hey Maurice! Looks like they've continually updated since I first mentioned them. May we ask them to affiliate with us like we did with the German wiki? :) (And if CC's right and you speak French this should be easy to accomplish! lol.) --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 03:08, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

== Better or Worse ==

When your editing a cast section of an episode, is it better to set it out like this:
<pre>
{{Char Appearances|
{{Char|Conan Edogawa}}
{{Char|Kogoro Mouri}}
{{Char|Ran Mouri}}
{{Char|Hiroshi Agasa|display=Dr. Agasa}}
{{Char|Ayumi Yoshida}}
{{Char|Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya}}
{{Char|Genta Kojima}}
{{Char|Inspector Megure}}
}}
</pre>

Or this?

<pre>
{{BeginBox}}
{{NewChar|name = [[Shinichi Kudo]]|image = Shinichi Kudo.jpg|link=Shinichi Kudo|description =
* 17 years old
* High school student
* Detective}}
{{NewChar|name = [[Ran Mouri]]|image = Ran Mouri.jpg|link=Ran Mouri|description =
* 17 years old
* High school student
* Karate champion}}
{{NewChar|name = [[Kogoro Mouri]]|image = Kogoro Mouri.jpg|link=Kogoro Mouri|description =
* [[Ran Mouri|Ran]]'s father
* Detective}}
{{NewChar|name = [[Inspector Megure]]|image = Inspector Megure.jpg|link=Inspector Megure|description =
* Inspector from Tokyo Police district}}
{{NewChar|name = [[Ayumi Yoshida]]|image = Ayumi Yoshida.jpg|link=Ayumi Yoshida|description =
* 7 years old
* [[Mitsuhiko]] and [[Genta]]'s classmate}}
{{NewChar|name = [[Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya]]|image = Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya.jpg|link=Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya|description =
* 7 years old
* [[Ayumi]] and [[Genta]]'s classmate}}
{{NewChar|name = [[Genta Kojima]]|image = Genta Kojima.jpg|link=Genta Kojima|description =
* 7 years old
* [[Ayumi]] and [[Mitsuhiko]]'s classmate}}
{{NewChar|name = [[Hiroshi Agasa]]|image = Hiroshi Agasa.jpg|link=Hiroshi Agasa|description =
* 52 years old
* Engineer/Inventor
* [[Shinichi]]'s old family friend}}
{{EndBox}}
</pre>

[[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 19:37, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
:I can answer this. The first way (Char Appearances) is proper when doing a cast list of characters who have appeared before which is the case in most episodes. Begin box is used for case suspects and other people under the people section and for new characters. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 21:52, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

==Signature question==

Can we use pictures in our signatures??? oh and I suggest to put This [{{fullurl:User Talk:Maurice|action=edit&section=new}} this] on the top of your talk page. (It makes a new section for your page.) thank you --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 15:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

== One more question ==

Can I use a Template for my signature so like [[User:Conanshinichi/sig]] so everytime I want to update it I can just edit that template. Thanx. --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 18:01, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
:Sorry I didn't get that, can you explain it again? sorry --[[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 18:23, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
::Yea I made it, you take a look here -> [[File:Nyan Cat.gif|link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4]][[User:conanshinichi|conan]][[User talk:conanshinichi|shinichi]] 18:54, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

== Flag Upload Request ==
I cannot seem to figure out for the life of me how to upload/save an .svg file, so could you please upload the flag of Singapore? :) --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 22:37, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
: Still having no luck figuring it out on my own. Can't seem to upload the flag of The Republic of China without getting an error. Would you please upload this flag? :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Republic_of_China.svg --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 20:18, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
:: Thanks! Now I know what to do. :D --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 17:13, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

== Question ==
How would one determine whether people should be listed in the Cast box, the People section, or the Characters introduced section? My understanding was that the first appearance of an important or recurring character should be listed as such under Characters introduced. While judgment can occasionally blur here when it comes to Magic Kaito characters, what with the OVAs and a separate series of TV Specials, I think it's pretty self-explanatory. However, a recent edit [[Conan_vs._Kid_vs._Yaiba_-_The_Grand_Battle_for_the_Treasure_Sword!!|'''here''']] in which a user moved everyone from People to the Cast section has really gotten me confused. Was such an edit correct? If they were to be in the Cast box, I would imagine they need to have appeared before in the Detective Conan anime series, which none of them have. In most cases, I would move them to Characters introduced, but with so many people and very little significance to the series, I don't think that would be the case here. I guess, simply put, do they belong in the Cast box or the People section? I only question this because a similar situation seems to be accepted in [[Lupin III vs. Detective Conan|'''this''']] article. I'm probably over thinking this, but I like to get my facts straight before making judgment. Thanks! --[[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 03:56, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
:The characters of Yaiba is on the cast just like Lupin III vs. Detective Conan and Kindaichi Case Files on game. They're from different show so it's like special guests to the shows. So it's A-Okay! :) --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 04:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
::Maurice-sama, CarpetCrawler-sama, and NakagawaRyou worked on it together long time ago. Through the year of 2009 to 2010 and they’re all in cast. Here’s the past of the article. --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 07:04, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
[[Image:Past work.jpg|thumb|right|1000px|]]

== Desperate Request ==
Can you please delete these articles:
[[Kyousuke Kazato]] and [[Toshiya Odagiri]]? Irish IS an important character but those 2 are regular people for Movie 4. Plus you said you will delete those two. They're not really important. Irish is important because of Black Organization article. I don't want to be rude but it has to be deleted and they are regular people after all. It can't be all the people who has their own articles. Right?
:They are already categorized as "unnecessary articles" and are thus flagged to be deleted eventually. We'll delete those pages as soon as the information is transferred to the correct spots in the relevant articles. --[[User:Maurice|Maurice]] [[User talk:Maurice|talk]] 14:22, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

== 2 unimporatant police characters ==
[[Talk:Ayami Ogino and Tsuyoshi Shikatsuno]]

== Wait ==
Wait hold on. This is not supposed to happen. He doesn't have a keyhole number. He can't have his own profile! Are you serious!? Whenever users about to create character profile, they should have a talk with you first. You should put on instructions or something. You know it can't be all the people who owns their profile in the entire universe of the wiki. This time he can't be the part of the main characters.

== Manga volume case description format ==

Recently [[User:CoolKid94]] redid [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Volume_1&diff=41384&oldid=41063 the first Manga Volume page that so that it the case description is on a per case basis instead of a per manga chapter basis]. I'm not if that's a useful improvement. I likes having descriptions for every file instead of every case better. I don't mind the spoiler tags usage and such. What do you think? [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 01:45, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

== Favor ==
On [[Yoshida Family]], can you create no links of Mr. Yoshida and Mrs. Yoshida under the pictures?
--[[User:S261157|S261157]] 20:56, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

== State of Emergency 252 Gallery ==

I hope you'll understand that for episodes split into 2 parts will mean that I get to have 50 images in those galleryies as normal for one episode I'm only allowed 25. [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 19:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

== Family Template ==

Thanks for fixing that little problem! I didn't have a clue how to do it myself. :D --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 21:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

== Vote please! ==

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Talk:Anime#Seasons --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 23:33, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

== Crimeboxes ==

One of the ongoing revert wars here at DCW seems to be where a crime box is located. When you get a chance, could you add something to the MoS concerning this topic? Also, if the correct format is for a crimebox to be midtext, is there a way to wrap text around it like you would an image? Thanks! --[[User:Jigsaw|Jigsaw]] 23:07, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

== Problem ==
Maurice-sama, I have a problem. This user Daniel46 is putting crime boxes above the story. This is the best idea of putting crime boxes in the middle of the text. Like for example,
While Conan and Ran were walking, they found the dead body.
(Crime box appears)
It makes more sense. Right? Do you agree? Check out Clash of Red and Black article for example. The multiple crime boxes occur in the middle of the story makes more sense and a perfect idea of the locations of the crime boxes occur. --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 21:39, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

==Concerning the current DC Style Wars==
Hi, Maurice. On the placement of the Crime Boxes, I'd like to comment that stylistically this measure is rather an eyesore. I mean, it's like placing the headline of a newspaper article into the middle of the main text. The Crime Boxes are in my opinion of an introductionary nature, giving an overwiew of the crime before the investigation begins. It's like in a real criminal case: The deed is done and discovered (as shown and summarized in the Crime Boxes), the police questions everyone, and the reconstruction of facts commences, recounting as to how the persons (in this case, Conan & Company) got involved in this case. And I'd also like to comment on the difference between the Plot Overview and the Background descriptions for '''[[Hidemi Hondou]]'''. The facts provided so far are a mere summarization of her appearances and plot contributions in the series and should be treated as generic Background information, while the Plot Overview is used for more specific details. Like, look at the '''[[Ai Haibara]]''' and '''[[Heiji Hattori]]''' entries and compare their Background accounts with the information currently set in '''Hidemi Hondou'''. Also, the Background facts are written in Past Tense, while the Plot Overviews are usually set in Present Tense. The splitting up of the currently available information for '''Hidemi Hondou''' is therefore as much as an eyesore as it is unnecessary. I am a novel reader and fledging book writer, so I can say that I have acquired a certain eye for literary style. So I ask you to reconsider the overall style in order to make this site a stylistic pleasure. Yours sincerely,[[User:Daniel46|Daniel46]] 06:15, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

:Hi again, Maurice. Just read your mail, and regarding the Crime Boxes, I think your suggestion of setting them at the end of a section has its merits in certain points. However, one must consider that in the case of ''Detective Conan'', you '''always''' expect a criminal case to occur, and a Crime Box is in that point an announcement - or summarization - of the situation as it can be found on the crime scene. It's like the headline of a newspaper: It announces what's happened, drawing attention to the case at hand, and then follows the background (story) to that case. The police proceeds the same way with protocols, recounting what's happened up to the point of the crime, the persons the victim(s) have been in contact with, circumstances etc. For your information: There are several TV shows which demonstrate this ''modus operandi'', especially the German show '''"Aktenzeichen XY ... Ungelöst"''' ("File Sign XY ... Unsolved"). It's both a sort-of reality TV documentary as well as a licensed investigation aid for the German police to resolve difficult criminal cases. Many of these cases are reconstructed as short films, which describe the respective crime in as much detail as it is known, from the victim's background up to the date and location where the crime was committed, and sometimes the subsequent investigation. The series was (and still is) so successful that it inspired several international copies, most notably '''"America's Most Wanted."''' XY is all in German, I know, but just to peak your interest; I'd like to give you the website '''http://www.e110.de/'''; look for the keyword "'''XY-Sendung vom ...'''" to have a look into the latest epsiode to date. Several episodes are also featured on YouTube. If you've got any questions about XY - like a certain case type (murder, robbery etc.) you'd like to observe as a film (of course with a summary by my person) -, just give me the word and I'll give you a corresponding link for upload. As for '''[[Hidemi Hondou]]''', the information currently found on the chapter was originally posted by me ... in the '''Background''' section. Someone just decided to chop it up, adding little self-initiative work to 'complete' it. What I've written was solely intended for the Background and was (is) as compact as I could get it; if you look closer, you'll see that it's more general that detail, as it was intended. The same type of work I've done with '''[[Heiji Hattori]]''', and initially there were some unreasonable changes, but ever since no one has done any more crippling so far. I suggest you closely compare the '''Heiji Hattori''' Background section with what's been done in '''Hidemi Hondou''' more recently (i.e. what is listed under '''Plot Overview''' now) ... and I hope you'll agree with me. Yours sincerely,[[User:Daniel46|Daniel46]] 18:01, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

== Identical Gallery ==

Not to be inpolite but I found http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/User:S261157 has created an [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Emergency_Situation_252/Gallery identical gallery] to one of mine, but with a different name. Could that user just have moved the name of my original gallery instead of creating a duplicate, what is the point of creating a duplicate anyway? Is it a new wiki policy I haven't heard about?
[[User:Hstar|Hstar]]

== Apologies ==
My deepest apologies, Maurice-sama. I changed it making the title matches to the opening title of DCTP's work. My apologies.
--[[User:S261157|S261157]] 18:43, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

== Another Duplicate ==

I found a duplicate of the following gallery http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/The_Screaming_Operation_Room/Gallery that link is the original - click on one of the images and you'll see it leads to two pages. [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 20:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

==Toru Amuro==
This guy's name is up for debate: Please vote "Toru" in http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/2689-that-amuro-guy

Pick "Toru" Its Toru! Toru still matches 徹 Toru Amuro! I'm super positive! Toru Amuro is a perfect name!!!!! Everyone please pick Toru! --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 15:19, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
:Sorry, I didn't seem to get to S261157 in time to tell him it's inappropriate to promote a certain vote. I linked him to the canvassing wikipage. All the options are technically correct and are used in real life. Vote whichever one you think is appropriate. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:46, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Forget what I said. Please choose whatever you want.

== Episode Captions ==

Just so I know when creating Episode Galleries - should I bother with captions? Only people don't really read them because they're so long - I'm not saying remove the captions form previous galleries but I'm saying from now onwards should I stop captioning? [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 16:10, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Unless I compromise and just do one sentence captions so people keep interest and know what's going on without having to read lots? [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 16:48, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

== Ref Links (Manga, MK Chapters, etc.) ==
Hey Maurice! I'm attempting to make more templates similar to the ref anime template. I've started by trying to make one for manga files, but the results are a bit sloppy. I've tested the template here: [[Roller Coaster Murder Case#Case 1: Crime at the Private Mansion]]. As you see, the resulting link on the page looks kinda sloppy. I would like for the template to work so that it just lists "Manga File (number): (name of the file)". I don't know how to get the template to only display the titles of the files without having to list the full proper link. (Since unlike episodes the Files do not have their own individual pages.) Could you help me solve this little problem? :) Once this problem is solved I can create one for Magic Kaito chapters as well following your example. Thanks! --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 23:58, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
: Ah, good point. Nevermind then! Seemed like a good idea in my head at the time. xD;; --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 04:39, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

== Request ==
Maurice-sama, please delete this article, [[The Ryoma Treasure Battle Between Conan and Kid (Part 1)]]. There's already an episode article about Ryoma. Thank you. --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 18:05, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind, Chekov got it.

== Style Questions ==

I just have a few quick style/formatting questions:
* For anime episodes, should the manga reference be a line formatted as
#[[Volume 6|Volume 6: File 9]]~[[Volume 7|Volume 7: File 1]]
#[[Volume 71|Volume 71: Files 3-11 (743-751)]] [[Volume 72|Volume 72: File 1 (752)]]?
* The MoS prefers the spoilered conclusion of a case to include Evidence, Resolution, and Motive. These are a bullet list in the MoS, but I hope in the actual boxes those three can be used as headers, with paragraphs, bullets or numbered points beneath them.
* What is the preference for a blank background vs non-blank background, and 100px vs 225px for characters on the Notable Case and Minor Recurring character pages?
* When linking to an event, is it better to link to an episode, the manga file, or both? I've been erring on both for the minor recurring characters, for the moment.
* Episodes use screenshots for illustration - if event is the exact same in the manga, could an anime shot be used for illustration in the manga summaries (color tends to feel more natural and less stark), or would it be better to use a manga screenshot?

Thanks! --[[User:Ocianne|Ocianne]] 05:41, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks for such detailed answers! --[[User:Ocianne|Ocianne]] 22:24, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

== Debt Collector ==

Debt Collector1.jpg and Debt Collector2.jpg link to two Episodes but I thought the two Debt Collecting Men were only in the Mysterious Pond Episode. Perhaps someone hadn't realised the names had already been used because I doubt that two minor characters would appear in more than one episode - but maybe I'm wrong. Let me know your reply :) [[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 20:16, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

== Manga "People" equivalent ==

I've been experimenting in Volume 1 with a table that has small screenshots (by necessity, due to picture limitations) of the victims and suspects of a given case, just to have faces to put with the names. If you think it could be viable, is there a way to template it for ease of use? Coding is my weak point, even something as simple as giving the top cells of a table the standard blue color. Thanks. --[[User:Ocianne|Ocianne]] 08:34, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
: I'd originally thought the People template might be bulky, but it seems to work well. If you'd like to remove or delete the non-MoS pictures I can upload new ones, otherwise I'll just leave them as-is and use the MoS way for all subsequent screenshots. 100x100 should be okay for most characters, at least with good quality scans, so I'll do that. Thanks and Happy Holidays. :) --[[User:Ocianne|Ocianne]] 04:08, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
::I happen to prefer the larger pictures, if only because it is friendlier for people with vision impairments to be able to see a larger version of the image by clicking. I was talking with Skyechan about this earlier concerning episode pictures. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 05:54, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
::: If that's the case, I could also make the pictures whatever resolution they are on the page. The uniformity when clicked would be gone, but there could be bigger size than the 100x100 pictures of the People template for many characters. Not all, but a fair amount. --[[User:Ocianne|Ocianne]] 09:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

== Delete sub-user page. ==

How can I delete my sub-user page? Some page in my user page, I didn't use any more.

== Help with tables ==
<s>
I need some help making a table of larceny targets for the [[Magic Kaito Organization]] page. The categories are
#Picture (100x100)
#Jewel Name (Eg. "Blue Birthday")
#Description of Jewel ("India's largest sapphire")
#Episode/chapter ("[[The Fated Blue Birthday]]")
#Details ("Blue Birthday was targeted while it was on tour at the Indian Treasure Exhibit. As the Organization anticipated, Kaito Kid stole the jewel first. Snake, leading a team of underlings, confronted Kid and grabbed his replica of Blue Birthday by mistake. Kaito Kid revealed the jewel was not Pandora by holding it to the moonlight.")</s>
Thanks, [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 03:37, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
: I went ahead and helped out Chek create the table. :) --[[User:Skyechan|Skyechan]] 04:29, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

== Episode Gallery 468 Complete ==

I am writing to inform you that the gallery for Episode 468 is complete. You can find it [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Mysterious_Case_Near_the_Pond/Gallery|here] Do you wish to request a gallery for me to do next or shall I just pick one?

[[User:Hstar|Hstar]] 20:28, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

== User Templates ==
Some suggestions for others: Favorite Movie, Favorite BO Member, Favorite DC Voice Actor (okay, I admit, I'm the only one who would want that one), "This User Believes [[]] is [[Anokata]]". Also, why don't favorite episode, volume and song link to said article? [[User:NakagawaRyou|NakagawaRyou]] 09:29, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

== Template: InfoBox Crime ==
I have a request to ask you. Can you make the Victim: to be optional of "Victims:" In [[Shinichi Kudo and the Kyoto Shinsengumi Murder Case]], Skyechan made the explosion crime box with the label Victim: three victims, can you make some kind of optional of victim and victims. Please? Can you test on sandbox or something? Skyechan put victim(s) in template crimebox but every crimeboxes in every articles became "Victim(s):" If it's one victim, it can't be Victim(s): name of the one victim. I want this to be optional: "Victim: one person" and "Victims: more people". I want it to be labeled as "Victims:" with no parentheses. I would be so pleased if you made it into optional of "Victim" and "Victims". If it doesn't work or anything, then let's just leave it as "Victim". --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 04:24, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you very much! :) --[[User:S261157|S261157]] 20:16, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

== Something confusing, thought to take it here ==
After a recent personal attack from Chekhov MacGuffin, I'm a bit interested in a few of her choices and the response and would like your opinion on it. The first is here:

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/User_talk:Chekhov_MacGuffin#Handedness_Article

She lists the edit of a user from a different forum as "naming names," which in the first place seems low class and unbecoming of a moderator and in the second seems premature. There's no reasoning given for the claim (in fact, google searching because of the second is the whole reason I found it), so it seems like she simply elected to cast this name for a personal motive. I was thinking to undo this given the lack of reason, but I'd rather consult and see what you think first, learn if she sent you a reason for something so juvenile.

The second is here:

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/User_talk:Chekhov_MacGuffin/Handedness

Her last mention directed at me is both off-topic and malicious. I replied to it solely to try to calm her down and get this discussion on Akai's right hand back on track to its conclusion, but she instead seemed happier to proclaim me as a troll and name me the IP. I'm not the only person whose found problems with Akai's right hand (this is personal experience on YouTube), I just agree it's unusual and thought the handedness article and Chekhov MacGuffin made it the best way to resolve this for me personally.

Anyway, please voice your opinions here and take any action you think is appropriate since I can't say when I'll be back. I just want to hear some kind of reasoning of why she's lashing out like that just for pushing a look into something that seems unusual (something she pointed out to the people here on DCW with the page itself) and know if DCW promotes this kind of behavior.

User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin/Handedness

2012-05-27T21:24:56Z

BlackWings: /* Re: BlackWings and handedness assumptions */

User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin/Handedness

2012-05-23T00:12:31Z

BlackWings: /* Re: BlackWings and handedness assumptions */

User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin/Handedness

2012-05-23T00:11:47Z

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User:Chekhov MacGuffin/Handedness

2012-05-23T00:11:06Z

BlackWings: /* Miscellaneous */

This is a guide to various characters' handedness.

==General assumptions==
For opening doors, regardless of a character’s actual handedness, characters use the hand on same side as the hinges when opening or closing both push and pull type doors. This avoids having the arm cross awkwardly over the body while opening or shutting it.

When holding two things or doing things with two hands, the dominant hand will be holding or doing the thing that is most interesting, dangerous, or precision-requiring unless a door is involved or would require a dropping of the guard, i.e. switching gun hands while aiming at someone. Cell phones will tend to get held in a character’s dominant hand while driving for instance.

When handling guns, the dominant hand goes on trigger while the off hand stabilizes.

Also, I am assuming none of the characters have been hiding their true handedness in the long term.<ref>Inigo Montoya: I admit it; you are better than I am. Man in Black: Then why are you smiling? Inigo: Because I know something you don't know. Man in Black: And what is that? Inigo: I am not left handed! None of this type thing in the long term.</ref> There may be one-off situations where a switch in handedness may be deliberate, these I mark in green.

==Summary==
No character, even those with known handedness, uses their dominant hand 100% the time. Gun handling is the most consistently dominant handed activity. Phone, radio, and listening device handling seem to be the most prone to offhand use. When compared to known lefty Gin, Okiya and Akai are left handed and well within tolerable limits for occasional righthanded use. In contrast, Vodka is clearly righthanded.

== Akai Shuuichi==
=== Guns ===

*354 - handgun in left waist high pocket - it is set for left handed draw
*434 - Left hand on trigger, right on pump
*434 - puts gun over left shoulder while keeping left index finger on the trigger. (right hand in pocket)
*434 - pumps gun in flashy way using only left hand
*434 - holds gun in left and aims left handed only (right in pocket)
*504 - using left eye to look through scope and left handed style for rifle handling, (left finger on trigger while supporting with right). Note Akai's Accuracy International Arctic Warfare is a right handed model (the location of the bolt is right). This may be an art error by Gosho. (see note)<ref>It is unlikely Akai is really right handed because of the preponderance of other left handed uses of weapons, and that it would be very foolish to use his off dominant hand on a one-try-only precision shot from 700 yards</ref>

=== Miscellaneous ===

*287 - coughs into left hand
*289 - about to take out bus jacker with left hand
*337 - lights cigarette with match with left hand and hold cigarette left handed
*599 - left to pull back curtain
*600 - left to pull out can of coffee and open it one handed
*600 - picks up coffee with left hand
*601 - left hand to pull out flowers and remove bomb, right to stabilize flower pot
*601 - left hand to hold bomb
*601 - right to remove apple from basket, left to pick up bomb<ref>It was a random patient's gift basket so setting the fruit down wherever would be rude; holding the fruit in his hands without setting it down would be more polite, necessitating the use of the right hand.</ref>
*601 - left to pick up box
*602 - right hand to take phone from Conan **** may be intentional for fake death trick
*609 - left to grab shot location right hand in pocket **** may be intentional for fake death trick

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*289 - Uses radio with right hand (standing)
*383 - Earbud in left ear (walking)
*419 - Holding cellphone with left hand while steering with right.
*422 - holding bug tap radio to ear with left hand (sitting in parked car)
*422 - Earbud in left ear. (sitting in parked car)
*502 - holding phone to ear with left hand
*596 - left hand for phone, right for binoculars
*596 - hangs up phone with left hand
*598 - left for phone right on the handle
*599 - left hand to flip through text message and close phone
*603 - left to hold and hang up cellphone (could be driving or parked)
*607 - left to answer phone and hang up phone
*608 - right hand to hold cell phone and click buttons

=== Unavoidable ===
*327 - uses car lighter with right hand - not unexpected since he is the driver and using the left would requiring crossing over his body
*354 - grabs Ran's elbow with right hand - although he is likely still holding the gun in his left meaning it is occupied
*379 - Opens telephone booth with right hand (right side hinge)
*420 - Fiddling with teli in car with right hand - not unexpected since he is the driver and using the left would require crossing over his body
*504 - Right hand to open door (right side hinge)
*596 - left for phone right to open door (right side hinge)
*596 - right to open door (right side hinge)
*599 - left to open door (left side hinge)
*599 - right to open door (right side hinge)
*599 - left to open door (left side hinge)
*608 - left hand to grab James' wrist (would have been awkward for right hand since he is in his car)

== Okiya Subaru ==
===Guns===
*800 – Preparing to draw handgun and fire using left hand, doing so necessitates leaning all the way out of the car. 
=== Miscellaneous ===
*623 – touches left hand to chin while thinking
*624 – takes Conan’s house keys with left hand
*638 – holding toothbrush with left hand x2
*638 – rubs face with right hand after Ran’s kick
*638 – Holds paper airplane preferentially with left hand (when not using two hands)
*639 – Spins airplane around in right hand
*639 – holds airplane in right while pointing with left
*639 – touches left hand to chin while thinking x3
*639 – rips page out using right to steady, left to tear
*639 – holding pen to draw and fill a circle with left hand
*640 – Holds paper airplane preferentially with left hand (when not using two hands)
*640 – touches left hand to chin while thinking
*640 – adjusts glasses with left hand
*640 – holds glass with left hand, right to prop chin
*665 – holds chin in left hand (opposite of Conan)
*666 – gestures to Conan with left hand
*666 – knocks away knife with left hand
*691 – stirring curry with left hand while holding pot with right
*700 – Adjusts glasses with right hand
*702 – right hand to touch glasses
*704 – blocked Jodie with right arm (He may not have a choice because of positioning but I'm going to call it right handed anyway)
*704 – helped Jodie up with left hand
*755 – places left hand on bad guy’s shoulder (unknown, setting up for attack?)
*755 – left hand to gesture
*755 – left hand to show off tracker glasses
*755 – right hand to turn key in lock while supporting with left
*811 – Grabs Haibara's wrist with left hand
*812 – Uses right hand to brush teeth ****Sera present at time and Okiya may be attempting to hide his handedness.**** Not considered unavoidable because is unclear if the comb was in his pocket to begin with rather than palmed in his hand
*812 – Points with right hand **** see Sera note above
*812 – Resumes brushing with right hand **** see Sera note above
*812 – Removes comb from pocket using left hand (not considered unavoidable since he placed it there or palmed it with the left hand in the first place)
*813 – Removes picture with right hand from folder being held in left. **** see Sera note above
*813 – Gestures with right hand. **** see Sera note above
*817 – Drinking glass of bourbon with left hand
*817 – Mousepad, bottle, and ashtray set up on right side of monitor (monitor placed so little room on left side)

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*638 – fiddles with cellphone with left hand
*664 – holds cellphone with left hand, but suddenly switches to right in the next panel (art error?)
*702 – right hand to fiddle with cellphone
*776 – listening to earpiece in left ear
*800 – Places headset in right ear using right hand
*800 – Listens to headset using right ear (opposite Amuro and Sera)

=== Unavoidable ===
*639 – right hand to take book from right hand pocket (would be awkward crossing body)
*704 – Shakes Mouri’s hand with right (unavoidable: etiquette)
*755 – left hand to open door (left side hinges)
*809 – Opens car door with left hand (door to Okiya's left)

== Gin ==
Known left handed. Note that I think Gin’s handedness was incorrectly portrayed in the first chapter.

=== Guns ===
*16 – Left to hold and fire gun
*239 - (dream Gin) left to hold gun
*241 – left to shoot
*242 – left to aim gun, right to hold hair (note doing it the other way around would require him to switch gun hands)
*242– left to shoot
*383 - left hand to point gun
*383 – cocks pistol in a left handed fashion (left on grip, right to slide)
*383 – holds pistol in left hand
*500 – left to hold gun while sitting in car
*504 - pulls gun on Vermouth with left hand
*504 – grabs Korn’s rifle with right hand, but uses left hand style (left finger on trigger while supporting with right, using left eye
*606 – left to hold handgun
*607 – left to hold handgun
*607 – left to hold handgun
*702/703 – left to hold handgun (In this situation I believe Gin planned to be sitting on the left side of the car so he can use his dominant hand to aim at Kir)

=== Miscellaneous ===
*1 - right hand to adjust hat
*1 - not sure about which hand was forward on his grip on lead pipe, but held it in right had afterward
*1 – Opened APTX container with left hand, while pulling pill out with right
*1 - Propped Shinichi up with left, administered pill and water with right
*1 - right hand to adjust hat
*33 – Briefcase under left arm
*33 – Looks at watch on left wrist (note Vodka’s on right wrist in same chap. After this chapter watches seemed to switch to off side wrist instead of dominant side)
*33 – Briefcase under right arm
*33 - lights cigarette with left hand (note Gosho reverses picture later for some reason)
*238 - Left to light cigarette with match
*238 - left hand to pick up hair while driving, right on handle.
*238 - left hand to find bug under seat while driving, right on handle
*238 – left hand to examine then crush bug while driving, right on handle
*287 – left to stub cigarette in Vodka’s martini
*287 – right to grab Vermouth’s head and pin her, left to attack with the ice pick
*287 – left to dispense cigarette
*383 – takes CD case from Vodka with right hand
*383 - picks up Vodka’s cigarette with left while holding CD-case in right hand
*383 – removes CD- case backing and displays case with tracker to Vodka using left hand.
*383 – crushes bug with left while still holding the CD-case in his right hand
*383 - removes right hand glove and feels for radiant heat from case with right hand (may be significance to using off-hand here)
*383 – holds CD case in left hand
*503 – left to point at map
*503 - grabs shoe with left hand
*504 – shushes Vodka with right hand index finger
*504 – fishes Conan’s bug out of left breast pocket with right hand and holds it in right hand to speak into it

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*177 – left shoulder then left hand on cell-phone while driving, right on handle
*238 - left hand on cell-phone while driving, right on handle, left to hang up
*239 – left to use cellphone (not driving)
*434 – cell propped on left shoulder while using left to drive and right to fiddle to light cigarette
*434 – left to hold cell, right to drive.
*501 – left to hold cell while in passenger seat
*502 – left to hold radio in one panel, then switched to right hand in next panel appearance, then back to left again for 2 panels, then back to right for two panels
*503 – dialing cell with left hand in passenger seat
*503 - holds radio with left hand
*503 – holds radio with left hand
*553 – left to use cell while in passenger seat.
*603 – right hand to hold first radio (This may be unavoidable if the radio has a cord and is attached to the dash on Gin's right.<ref>The radio doesn't have an antenna, but unfortunately the art isn't clear enough to tell.</ref>)
*603 – talks in second radio with right hand. (was sitting in passenger seat so crossover would be awkward would be awkward to grab it.)
*603 – Switched first radio to left hand to speak into it.
*609 - left to hold radio
*704 - left hand to dial phone

=== Unavoidable ===
*1 - right hand to cover face (no choice because of side police are on)
*16 - Left to block Vodka (no choice Gin was slightly to Vodka’s right)
*177 - uses car lighter with right hand - not unexpected since he is the driver and using the left would requiring crossing over his body
*238 – (dream Gin) right to adjust review mirror (Note it would be awkward to adjust it with his left as that would require crossing over his body and blocking his view in the mirror)
*238 - Left to ward off car while crossing road (unavoidable because that is direction car is coming. Crossing over the body would be awkward)
*238 – left to shut car door while getting in driver’s side (using other hand be awkward )
*241 – left to open car door to exit (using other hand be awkward)
*242– left to shoot own right arm
*242– left to shoot (right arm had been shot)
*383 – transfers pistol to right hand to open lockers (left side hinges)
*383 – left to close lockers (left side hinges)
*504 – Right hand to dispense cigarettes, left to grab car lighter (crossover would be awkward)
*553 – flicks cigarette out window with right hand (crossover would be awkward)

== Vodka ==
Known right handed (wore and looked at watch on opposite wrist as Gin's in one case)
=== Guns ===
*1- right hand to draw gun, briefcase stowed under left arm
*241 – right to fire gun
*242 – right to shoot
*383- takes flashlight in left hand, gun in right for search

=== Miscellaneous ===
*1 – right hand to return film
*1 – briefcase under right arm
*33 –Waved Conan off with right
*33 – Looks at watch on right wrist (Note Gin’s is on left wrist. After this chapter watches seemed to switch to off side wrist instead of dominant side)
*33 - lights cigarette with right hand
*239 – Right to raise hood/bonnet of Porsche
*239 – right to use bug-scanner/radio/whatever that object is
*241 – left to hold computer, right to type
*287 – right to hold martini
*383 – Vodka’s watch on left wrist now, likely continuity error
*383 – hold flashlight with right hand
*383 – put flashlight under right arm to free right hand to pick up a check with the right, while opening the locker with the left (left hinged locker door)
*383 – right hand to grab taped down CD-case and hand it to Gin
*502 – right to turn off monitor

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*381 – left to talk on cellphone for a single panel, then right to talk on the cellphone for the rest of the panels (note the hand used switched in the middle of the same scene) minor art continuity error?
*382 – left to talk on cellphone, right to drive (left side drive)
*383 – remove right hand glove to pick at tape sticking down CD-case, while holding cellphone with left hand
*434 – right hand to hold cell (standing)
*503 – talking on radio with right while driving with left hand.
*702 – talking on cellphone with left hand while parked 

=== Unavoidable ===
*1 - right hand to cover face (no choice because of side police are on)
*33 – touches suitcase with right hand (left not practical because of cross body)
*241 - right arm to open door (right hand door)
*241 – right to fiddle with Baijiu bottle
*383 - right hand to talk on cellphone while using left to open door to exit car
*383 – right to hold flashlight while lighting cigarette with left (would have had to switch flashlight hands)

==Sera Masumi==
===Miscellaneous===
*768 – Right hand to grip overhead bar
*768 – Left hand strike at Ran followed by a right roundhouse kick aimed at the head, ending with a return to a southpaw stance. (Ambiguous as hand to hand combat relies on effective use of both hands and legs - see note for the stance)<ref>[[User:BlackWings]] says: While her return to a southpaw stance with her front/right hand occupied indicates this is her natural stance, but says little of handedness, especially since she's a Jeet Kune Do practitioner. Many fighters, no matter their style, deviate from the traditional "lefties fight southpaw, righties fight orthodox" idea, and Bruce Lee was one of them, believing that one should place the dominant hand in the front ("lefties fight orthodox, righties fight southpaw") to shorten the distance between the hand and the target - not all JKD users adhere to this idea, but the principle is taught in a number of schools, and some, particularly Jun Fan branch schools, train their students this way.</ref>
*768 – Grabbed pervert’s hand with right hand
*769 – Gestures to ears with left hand
*769 – Grabs chin with left hand
*769 – Examines string evidence with hanky using right hand
*769 – Touches paint can with right hand
*770 – Rubs back of head with right hand
*770 – Facepalms with left hand
*771 – Right hand to touch face
*771 – Bag over left shoulder (opposite Sonoko)
*771 – Facepalms with right hand
*771 – Right hand to touch face
*771 – Grabs Ran’s phone with right hand, pretend to close it on the phone strap, and set it down.
*773 – Left hand to touch face
*774 – Gripping bag with left hand over left shoulder (same as Sonoko)
*777 – Uses right handed mouse
*778 – Touches face with right hand
*787 – Bag over left shoulder using left hand (same as Sonoko)
*798 – Right hand to fiddle with helmet
*798 – Bluetooth device (or whatever it is) clipped to left lapel (set for right hand answer as shown later)
*798 – Right hand to raise helmet.
*799 – Helmet under right arm
*801 – Switches school bag to left arm over shoulder. (Bags over shoulders tend to switch up hands a lot.)
*801 – Touches face with right hand.
*801 – Gestures to Ran with right hand
*812 – Bag over shoulder with left hand
*812 – Checks corpse's eye with right hand
*812 – Checks corpse's eye again with right hand
*812 – Bag over shoulder with left hand (same shoulder as Sonoko)
*812 – Closes door with left hand (right hand hinges, but she is intentionally looking in while closing the door.)
*812 – Opens cabinet with right hand
*812 – Displays and stretches hair tie with left hand while closing cabinet with right hand
*812 – Holds up and shows glass with right hand
*812 – Grabs and holds up single hair from sink with right hand
*813 – Holds picture with right hand
*813 – Holds notebook with left, then in right in next panel. The explanation may be she is holding it with both hands which are not visible at same time.
*813 – Turns notebook page with right hand while holding it in left twice
*813 – Right hand to touch face
*814 – Right hand to touch face
*814 – Right hand to pick up bloody coin from under vending machine using a handkerchief.
*814 – Right hand to flick bloody coin up.
*814 – Left hand to grab attacker's arm, right to punch under chin. (fighting requires effective use of both hands)
*814 – Right hand to catch coin in handkerchief.
*814 – Bag over shoulder with left hand (same side as Sonoko)
*815 – Shopping basket in left hand and helmet under left arm, leaving the right free to pick groceries. Bag from shelf grabbed with right hand.
*815 – Full grocery bag switched to right hand, helmet still under left
*816 – Right hand to turn over corpse with handkerchief
*816 – Right hand to hold up corpse's hair, left to support own weight

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*798 – Using left hand to hold phone to ear.
*800 – Answers phone with right hand 
*800 – Holding phone earpiece in left ear with left hand (Same as Amuro and opposite Okiya)
*801 – Using left hand to hold phone to ear. Possibly unavoidable since holding school bag under right arm.
*813 – Grabs Ran's phone with left and puts to left ear (was standing to Ran's left side, facing same direction trying to listen in)-->
*815 – holds her phone towards Conan's with right hand
*817 – Right hand to take Mitsuhiko's cellphone from him

===Unavoidable===
*769 – Grabs Conan’s head with right hand (Conan was standing on Sera’s right)
*771 – Blocks Ran with left hand (Ran was standing on Sera’s left)
*773 – Right hand to whisper to Ran (Ran was standing on Sera’s right) and then uses same hand’s finger to make a shush sign
*812 – Opens gate with right hand because bag was in left hand.
*812 – Opens door with right hand (right hand hinges.)
*812 – Opens door with right hand (right hand hinges.)
*815 – Right hand to touch tree on right side


==Amuro Tohru==
===Miscellaneous===
*793 – Serves Ran cake with right hand 
*793 – Grabs Banba’s shoulders with right hand
*793 – Holding platter with left hand (keeps right hand free)
*793 – Grabs head with right hand after being knocked down. Left to support
*793 – Takes glasses off with right hand
*794 – Touches face with right hand
*795 – Holding platter with left hand (keeps right hand free)
*795 – Left hand to mouth to whisper
*795 – Right hand to salute
*796 – Points to self with right hand
*796 – Holds coffee cup in right hand
*796 – Examining coffee cup by holding it in his left hand
*796 – Right hand to face to make “shush” gesture
*797 – Left hand to focus voice.
*797 – Right hand to hang up Ran’s phone 
*797 – Left hand to face to make “shush” gesture
*797 – Right hand to hold up bug detector. (several times)
*797 – Right hand to use bug detector (several times)
*798 – Right hand to examine condition of body in suitcase
*798 – Right hand to focus voice.
*800 – Touches face with left hand
*815 – Right hand to serve dishes from tray supported by left.

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*800 – Answers phone with left hand (Same as Sera and opposite Okiya)
*808 – Deletes message on touchscreen phone using only right hand.

===Unavoidable===
*796 – Closes door with left hand (looking around room, left side hinges)
*796 – Right hand to open door (right side hinges)
*798 – Right hand to open door (right side hinges)
*800 – Grabbing Ran (she is to his left.)
*817 – Using right handed mouse (Kogoro's computer set up for right handed mouse, and since he is sneaking he doesn't want to disturb the setup much)
*817 – Earbud in left ear, left side headphone jack, and leaves his right ear facing the door so he can hear anyone coming

==Notes==
<references/>

User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin/Handedness

2012-05-17T15:09:31Z

BlackWings: /* Re: BlackWings and handedness assumptions */

User:Chekhov MacGuffin/Handedness

2012-04-13T17:21:03Z

BlackWings: /* Miscellaneous */ Minor asthetic changes (the bullets jumping between colored and uncolored annoyed me), added in a note, and removed an unnecessary point (Sera never released the hand),

This is a guide to various characters' handedness.

==General assumptions==
For opening doors, regardless of a character’s actual handedness, characters use the hand on same side as the hinges when opening or closing both push and pull type doors. This avoids having the arm cross awkwardly over the body while opening or shutting it.

When holding two things or doing things with two hands, the dominant hand will be holding or doing the thing that is most interesting, dangerous, or precision-requiring unless a door is involved or would require a dropping of the guard, i.e. switching gun hands while aiming at someone. Cell phones will tend to get held in a character’s dominant hand while driving for instance.

When handling guns, the dominant hand goes on trigger while the off hand stabilizes.

Due to the non-existence of confirmed cases in the canon, all characters are assumed to not have any form of cross-dominance (including trained ambidexterity) and are either left-handed or right-handed.

==Summary==
No character, even those with known handedness, uses their dominant hand 100% the time. Gun handling is the most consistently dominant handed activity. Phone, radio, and listening device handling seem to be the most prone to offhand use. When compared to known lefty Gin, Okiya and Akai are left handed and well within tolerable limits for occasional righthanded use. In contrast, Vodka is clearly righthanded.

== Akai Shuuichi==
=== Guns ===

*354 - handgun in left waist high pocket - it is set for left handed draw
*434 - Left hand on trigger, right on pump
*434 - puts gun over left shoulder while keeping left index finger on the trigger. (right hand in pocket)
*434 - pumps gun in flashy way using only left hand
*434 - holds gun in left and aims left handed only (right in pocket)
*504 - using left eye to look through scope and left handed style for rifle handling, (left finger on trigger while supporting with right). Note Akai's Accuracy International Arctic Warfare is a right handed model (the location of the bolt is right). This may be an art error by Gosho. (see note)<ref>It is unlikely Akai is really right handed because of the preponderance of other left handed uses of weapons, and that it would be very foolish to use his off dominant hand on a one-try-only precision shot from 700 yards</ref>

=== Miscellaneous ===

*287 - coughs into left hand
*289 - about to take out bus jacker with left hand
*337 - lights cigarette with match with left hand and hold cigarette left handed
*599 - left to pull back curtain
*600 - left to pull out can of coffee and open it one handed
*600 - picks up coffee with left hand
*601 - left hand to pull out flowers and remove bomb, right to stabilize flower pot
*601 - left hand to hold bomb
*601 - right to remove apple from basket, left to pick up bomb<ref>It was a random patient's gift basket so setting the fruit down wherever would be rude; holding the fruit in his hands without setting it down would be more polite, necessitating the use of the right hand.</ref>
*601 - left to pick up box
*602 - right hand to take phone from Conan **** may be intentional for fake death trick
*609 - left to grab shot location right hand in pocket **** may be intentional for fake death trick

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*289 - Uses radio with right hand (standing)
*383 - Earbud in left ear (walking)
*419 - Holding cellphone with left hand while steering with right.
*422 - holding bug tap radio to ear with left hand (sitting in parked car)
*422 - Earbud in left ear. (sitting in parked car)
*502 - holding phone to ear with left hand
*596 - left hand for phone, right for binoculars
*596 - hangs up phone with left hand
*598 - left for phone right on the handle
*599 - left hand to flip through text message and close phone
*603 - left to hold and hang up cellphone (could be driving or parked)
*607 - left to answer phone and hang up phone
*609 - right hand to hold cell phone and click buttons

=== Unavoidable ===
*327 - uses car lighter with right hand - not unexpected since he is the driver and using the left would requiring crossing over his body
*354 - grabs Ran's elbow with right hand - although he is likely still holding the gun in his left meaning it is occupied
*379 - Opens telephone booth with right hand (right side hinge)
*420 - Fiddling with teli in car with right hand - not unexpected since he is the driver and using the left would require crossing over his body
*504 - Right hand to open door (right side hinge)
*596 - left for phone right to open door (right side hinge)
*596 - right to open door (right side hinge)
*599 - left to open door (left side hinge)
*599 - right to open door (right side hinge)
*599 - left to open door (left side hinge)
*608 - left hand to grab James' wrist (would have been awkward for right hand since he is in his car)

== Okiya Subaru ==
===Guns===
*800 – Preparing to draw handgun and fire using left hand, doing so necessitates leaning all the way out of the car. 
=== Miscellaneous ===
*623 - touches left hand to chin while thinking
*624 – takes Conan’s house keys with left hand
*638 – holding toothbrush with left hand x2
*638 – rubs face with right hand after Ran’s kick
*638 - Holds paper airplane preferentially with left hand (when not using two hands)
*639 – Spins airplane around in right hand
*639 – holds airplane in right while pointing with left
*639 - touches left hand to chin while thinking x3
*639 - rips page out using right to steady, left to tear
*639 – holding pen to draw and fill a circle with left hand
*640 – Holds paper airplane preferentially with left hand (when not using two hands)
*640 - touches left hand to chin while thinking
*640 – adjusts glasses with left hand
*640 – holds glass with left hand, right to prop chin
*665 – holds chin in left hand (opposite of Conan)
*666 – gestures to Conan with left hand
*666 – knocks away knife with left hand
*691 – stirring curry with left hand while holding pot with right
*700 – Adjusts glasses with right hand
*702 – right hand to touch glasses
*704 - blocked Jodie with right arm (He may not have a choice because of positioning but I'm going to call it right handed anyway)
*704 - helped Jodie up with left hand
*755 - places left hand on bad guy’s shoulder (unknown, setting up for attack?)
*755 – left hand to gesture
*755 – left hand to show off tracker glasses
*755 – right hand to turn key in lock while supporting with left

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*638 – fiddles with cellphone with left hand
*664 – holds cellphone with left hand, but suddenly switches to right in the next panel (art error?)
*702 – right hand to fiddle with cellphone
*776 – listening to earpiece in left ear
*800 – Places headset in right ear using right hand
*800 – Listens to headset using right ear (opposite Amuro and Sera)

=== Unavoidable ===
*639 – right hand to take book from right hand pocket (would be awkward crossing body)
*704 – Shakes Mouri’s hand with right (unavoidable: etiquette)
*755 – left hand to open door (left side hinges)
*809 – Opens car door with left hand (door to Okiya's left)

== Gin ==
Known left handed. Note that I think Gin’s handedness was incorrectly portrayed in the first chapter.

=== Guns ===
*16 – Left to hold and fire gun
*239 - (dream Gin) left to hold gun
*241 – left to shoot
*242 – left to aim gun, right to hold hair (note doing it the other way around would require him to switch gun hands)
*242– left to shoot
*383 - left hand to point gun
*383 – cocks pistol in a left handed fashion (left on grip, right to slide)
*383 – holds pistol in left hand
*500 – left to hold gun while sitting in car
*504 - pulls gun on Vermouth with left hand
*504 – grabs Korn’s rifle with right hand, but uses left hand style (left finger on trigger while supporting with right, using left eye
*606 – left to hold handgun
*607 – left to hold handgun
*607 – left to hold handgun
*702/703 – left to hold handgun (In this situation I believe Gin planned to be sitting on the left side of the car so he can use his dominant hand to aim at Kir)

=== Miscellaneous ===
*1 - right hand to adjust hat
*1 - not sure about which hand was forward on his grip on lead pipe, but held it in right had afterward
*1 – Opened APTX container with left hand, while pulling pill out with right
*1 - Propped Shinichi up with left, administered pill and water with right
*1 - right hand to adjust hat
*33 – Briefcase under left arm
*33 – Looks at watch on left wrist (note Vodka’s on right wrist in same chap. After this chapter watches seemed to switch to off side wrist instead of dominant side)
*33 – Briefcase under right arm
*33 - lights cigarette with left hand (note Gosho reverses picture later for some reason)
*238 - Left to light cigarette with match
*238 - left hand to pick up hair while driving, right on handle.
*238 - left hand to find bug under seat while driving, right on handle
*238 – left hand to examine then crush bug while driving, right on handle
*287 – left to stub cigarette in Vodka’s martini
*287 – right to grab Vermouth’s head and pin her, left to attack with the ice pick
*287 – left to dispense cigarette
*383 – takes CD case from Vodka with right hand
*383 - picks up Vodka’s cigarette with left while holding CD-case in right hand
*383 – removes CD- case backing and displays case with tracker to Vodka using left hand.
*383 – crushes bug with left while still holding the CD-case in his right hand
*383 - removes right hand glove and feels for radiant heat from case with right hand (may be significance to using off-hand here)
*383 – holds CD case in left hand
*503 – left to point at map
*503 - grabs shoe with left hand
*504 – shushes Vodka with right hand index finger
*504 – fishes Conan’s bug out of left breast pocket with right hand and holds it in right hand to speak into it

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*177 – left shoulder then left hand on cell-phone while driving, right on handle
*238 - left hand on cell-phone while driving, right on handle, left to hang up
*239 – left to use cellphone (not driving)
*434 – cell propped on left shoulder while using left to drive and right to fiddle to light cigarette
*434 – left to hold cell, right to drive.
*501 – left to hold cell while in passenger seat
*502 – left to hold radio in one panel, then switched to right hand in next panel appearance, then back to left again for 2 panels, then back to right for two panels
*503 – dialing cell with left hand in passenger seat
*503 - holds radio with left hand
*503 – holds radio with left hand
*553 – left to use cell while in passenger seat.
*603 – right hand to hold first radio (This may be unavoidable if the radio has a cord and is attached to the dash on Gin's right.<ref>The radio doesn't have an antenna, but unfortunately the art isn't clear enough to tell.</ref>)
*603 – talks in second radio with right hand. (was sitting in passenger seat so crossover would be awkward would be awkward to grab it.)
*603 – Switched first radio to left hand to speak into it.
*609 - left to hold radio
*704 - left hand to dial phone

=== Unavoidable ===
*1 - right hand to cover face (no choice because of side police are on)
*16 - Left to block Vodka (no choice Gin was slightly to Vodka’s right)
*177 - uses car lighter with right hand - not unexpected since he is the driver and using the left would requiring crossing over his body
*238 – (dream Gin) right to adjust review mirror (Note it would be awkward to adjust it with his left as that would require crossing over his body and blocking his view in the mirror)
*238 - Left to ward off car while crossing road (unavoidable because that is direction car is coming. Crossing over the body would be awkward)
*238 – left to shut car door while getting in driver’s side (using other hand be awkward )
*241 – left to open car door to exit (using other hand be awkward)
*242– left to shoot own right arm
*242– left to shoot (right arm had been shot)
*383 – transfers pistol to right hand to open lockers (left side hinges)
*383 – left to close lockers (left side hinges)
*504 – Right hand to dispense cigarettes, left to grab car lighter (crossover would be awkward)
*553 – flicks cigarette out window with right hand (crossover would be awkward)

== Vodka ==
Known right handed (wore and looked at watch on opposite wrist as Gin's in one case)
=== Guns ===
*1- right hand to draw gun, briefcase stowed under left arm
*241 – right to fire gun
*242 – right to shoot
*383- takes flashlight in left hand, gun in right for search

=== Miscellaneous ===
*1 – right hand to return film
*1 – briefcase under right arm
*33 –Waved Conan off with right
*33 – Looks at watch on right wrist (Note Gin’s is on left wrist. After this chapter watches seemed to switch to off side wrist instead of dominant side)
*33 - lights cigarette with right hand
*239 – Right to raise hood/bonnet of Porsche
*239 – right to use bug-scanner/radio/whatever that object is
*241 – left to hold computer, right to type
*287 – right to hold martini
*383 – Vodka’s watch on left wrist now, likely continuity error
*383 – hold flashlight with right hand
*383 – put flashlight under right arm to free right hand to pick up a check with the right, while opening the locker with the left (left hinged locker door)
*383 – right hand to grab taped down CD-case and hand it to Gin
*502 – right to turn off monitor

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*381 – left to talk on cellphone for a single panel, then right to talk on the cellphone for the rest of the panels (note the hand used switched in the middle of the same scene) minor art continuity error?
*382 – left to talk on cellphone, right to drive (left side drive)
*383 – remove right hand glove to pick at tape sticking down CD-case, while holding cellphone with left hand
*434 – right hand to hold cell (standing)
*503 – talking on radio with right while driving with left hand.
*702 – talking on cellphone with left hand while parked 

=== Unavoidable ===
*1 - right hand to cover face (no choice because of side police are on)
*33 – touches suitcase with right hand (left not practical because of cross body)
*241 - right arm to open door (right hand door)
*241 – right to fiddle with Baijiu bottle
*383 - right hand to talk on cellphone while using left to open door to exit car
*383 – right to hold flashlight while lighting cigarette with left (would have had to switch flashlight hands)

==Sera Masumi==
===Miscellaneous===
*768: Right hand to grip overhead bar
*768: Left hand strike at Ran followed by a high right leg sweep. (Ambiguous as hand to hand combat relies on effective use of both hands and legs. Likewise, while her return to a southpaw stance with her front/right hand occupied indicates this is her natural stance, but says little of handedness, especially since she's a Jeet Kune Do practitioner<ref>Many fighters deviate from the traditional "lefties fight southpaw, righties fight orthodox" idea, and Bruce Lee was one of them, believing that one should place the dominant hand in the front ("lefties fight orthodox, righties fight southpaw") to shorten the distance between the hand and the target - not all JKD users adhere to this idea, but the principle is taught in a number of schools, and some, particularly Jun Fan branch schools, train their students this way.</ref>)
*768: Grabbed pervert’s hand with right hand
*769: Gestures to ears with left hand
*769: Grabs chin with left hand
*769: Examines string evidence with hanky using right hand
*769: Touches paint can with right hand
*770: Rubs back of head with right hand
*770: Facepalms with left hand
*771: Right hand to touch face
*771: Bag over left shoulder (opposite Sonoko)
*771: Facepalms with right hand
*771: Right hand to touch face
*771: Grabs Ran’s phone with right hand, pretend to close it on the phone strap, and set it down.
*773: Left hand to touch face
*774: Gripping bag with left hand over left shoulder (same as Sonoko)
*777: Uses right handed mouse
*778 – Touches face with right hand
*787 – Bag over left shoulder using left hand(same as Sonoko)
*798 – Right hand to fiddle with helmet
*798 – Bluetooth device (or whatever it is) clipped to left lapel (set for right hand answer as shown later)
*798 – Right hand to raise helmet.
*799 – Helmet under right arm
*801 – Switches school bag to left arm over shoulder. (Bags over shoulders tend to switch up hands a lot.)
*801 – Touches face with right hand.
*801 – Gestures to Ran with right hand

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*798 – Using left hand to hold phone to ear.
*800 – Answers phone with right hand 
*800 – Holding phone earpiece in left ear with left hand (Same as Amuro and opposite Okiya)
*801 – Using left hand to hold phone to ear. Possibly unavoidable since holding school bag under right arm.

===Unavoidable===
*769: Grabs Conan’s head with right hand (Conan was standing on Sera’s right)
*771: Blocks Ran with left hand (Ran was standing on Sera’s left)
*773: Right hand to whisper to Ran (Ran was standing on Sera’s right) and then uses same hand’s finger to make a shush sign

==Amuro Tohru==
===Miscellaneous===
*793 – Serves Ran cake with right hand 
*793 – Grabs Banba’s shoulders with right hand
*793 – Holding platter with left hand (keeps right hand free)
*793 – Grabs head with right hand after being knocked down. Left to support
*793 – Takes glasses off with right hand
*794 – Touches face with right hand
*795 – Holding platter with left hand (keeps right hand free)
*795 – Left hand to mouth to whisper
*795 – Right hand to salute
*796 – Points to self with right hand
*796 – Holds coffee cup in right hand
*796 – Examining coffee cup by holding it in his left hand
*796 – Right hand to face to make “shush” gesture
*797 – Left hand to focus voice.
*797 – Right hand to hang up Ran’s phone 
*797 – Left hand to face to make “shush” gesture
*797 – Right hand to hold up bug detector. (several times)
*797 – Right hand to use bug detector (several times)
*798 – Right hand to examine condition of body in suitcase
*798 – Right hand to focus voice.
*800 – Touches face with left hand

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*800 – Answers phone with left hand (Same as Sera and opposite Okiya)
*808 – Deletes message on touchscreen phone using only right hand.

===Unavoidable===
*796 – Closes door with left hand (looking around room, left side hinges)
*796 – Right hand to open door (right side hinges)
*798 – Right hand to open door (right side hinges)
*800 – Grabbing Ran (she is to his left.)

==Notes==
<references/>

User:Chekhov MacGuffin/Handedness

2012-04-13T17:20:59Z

BlackWings: /* General assumptions */ Adding in the assumption most members of the fandom unconsciously make.

This is a guide to various characters' handedness.

==General assumptions==
For opening doors, regardless of a character’s actual handedness, characters use the hand on same side as the hinges when opening or closing both push and pull type doors. This avoids having the arm cross awkwardly over the body while opening or shutting it.

When holding two things or doing things with two hands, the dominant hand will be holding or doing the thing that is most interesting, dangerous, or precision-requiring unless a door is involved or would require a dropping of the guard, i.e. switching gun hands while aiming at someone. Cell phones will tend to get held in a character’s dominant hand while driving for instance.

When handling guns, the dominant hand goes on trigger while the off hand stabilizes.

Due to the non-existence of confirmed cases in the canon, all characters are assumed to not have any form of cross-dominance (including trained ambidexterity) and are either left-handed or right-handed.

==Summary==
No character, even those with known handedness, uses their dominant hand 100% the time. Gun handling is the most consistently dominant handed activity. Phone, radio, and listening device handling seem to be the most prone to offhand use. When compared to known lefty Gin, Okiya and Akai are left handed and well within tolerable limits for occasional righthanded use. In contrast, Vodka is clearly righthanded.

== Akai Shuuichi==
=== Guns ===

*354 - handgun in left waist high pocket - it is set for left handed draw
*434 - Left hand on trigger, right on pump
*434 - puts gun over left shoulder while keeping left index finger on the trigger. (right hand in pocket)
*434 - pumps gun in flashy way using only left hand
*434 - holds gun in left and aims left handed only (right in pocket)
*504 - using left eye to look through scope and left handed style for rifle handling, (left finger on trigger while supporting with right). Note Akai's Accuracy International Arctic Warfare is a right handed model (the location of the bolt is right). This may be an art error by Gosho. (see note)<ref>It is unlikely Akai is really right handed because of the preponderance of other left handed uses of weapons, and that it would be very foolish to use his off dominant hand on a one-try-only precision shot from 700 yards</ref>

=== Miscellaneous ===

*287 - coughs into left hand
*289 - about to take out bus jacker with left hand
*337 - lights cigarette with match with left hand and hold cigarette left handed
*599 - left to pull back curtain
*600 - left to pull out can of coffee and open it one handed
*600 - picks up coffee with left hand
*601 - left hand to pull out flowers and remove bomb, right to stabilize flower pot
*601 - left hand to hold bomb
*601 - right to remove apple from basket, left to pick up bomb<ref>It was a random patient's gift basket so setting the fruit down wherever would be rude; holding the fruit in his hands without setting it down would be more polite, necessitating the use of the right hand.</ref>
*601 - left to pick up box
*602 - right hand to take phone from Conan **** may be intentional for fake death trick
*609 - left to grab shot location right hand in pocket **** may be intentional for fake death trick

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*289 - Uses radio with right hand (standing)
*383 - Earbud in left ear (walking)
*419 - Holding cellphone with left hand while steering with right.
*422 - holding bug tap radio to ear with left hand (sitting in parked car)
*422 - Earbud in left ear. (sitting in parked car)
*502 - holding phone to ear with left hand
*596 - left hand for phone, right for binoculars
*596 - hangs up phone with left hand
*598 - left for phone right on the handle
*599 - left hand to flip through text message and close phone
*603 - left to hold and hang up cellphone (could be driving or parked)
*607 - left to answer phone and hang up phone
*609 - right hand to hold cell phone and click buttons

=== Unavoidable ===
*327 - uses car lighter with right hand - not unexpected since he is the driver and using the left would requiring crossing over his body
*354 - grabs Ran's elbow with right hand - although he is likely still holding the gun in his left meaning it is occupied
*379 - Opens telephone booth with right hand (right side hinge)
*420 - Fiddling with teli in car with right hand - not unexpected since he is the driver and using the left would require crossing over his body
*504 - Right hand to open door (right side hinge)
*596 - left for phone right to open door (right side hinge)
*596 - right to open door (right side hinge)
*599 - left to open door (left side hinge)
*599 - right to open door (right side hinge)
*599 - left to open door (left side hinge)
*608 - left hand to grab James' wrist (would have been awkward for right hand since he is in his car)

== Okiya Subaru ==
===Guns===
*800 – Preparing to draw handgun and fire using left hand, doing so necessitates leaning all the way out of the car. 
=== Miscellaneous ===
*623 - touches left hand to chin while thinking
*624 – takes Conan’s house keys with left hand
*638 – holding toothbrush with left hand x2
*638 – rubs face with right hand after Ran’s kick
*638 - Holds paper airplane preferentially with left hand (when not using two hands)
*639 – Spins airplane around in right hand
*639 – holds airplane in right while pointing with left
*639 - touches left hand to chin while thinking x3
*639 - rips page out using right to steady, left to tear
*639 – holding pen to draw and fill a circle with left hand
*640 – Holds paper airplane preferentially with left hand (when not using two hands)
*640 - touches left hand to chin while thinking
*640 – adjusts glasses with left hand
*640 – holds glass with left hand, right to prop chin
*665 – holds chin in left hand (opposite of Conan)
*666 – gestures to Conan with left hand
*666 – knocks away knife with left hand
*691 – stirring curry with left hand while holding pot with right
*700 – Adjusts glasses with right hand
*702 – right hand to touch glasses
*704 - blocked Jodie with right arm (He may not have a choice because of positioning but I'm going to call it right handed anyway)
*704 - helped Jodie up with left hand
*755 - places left hand on bad guy’s shoulder (unknown, setting up for attack?)
*755 – left hand to gesture
*755 – left hand to show off tracker glasses
*755 – right hand to turn key in lock while supporting with left

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*638 – fiddles with cellphone with left hand
*664 – holds cellphone with left hand, but suddenly switches to right in the next panel (art error?)
*702 – right hand to fiddle with cellphone
*776 – listening to earpiece in left ear
*800 – Places headset in right ear using right hand
*800 – Listens to headset using right ear (opposite Amuro and Sera)

=== Unavoidable ===
*639 – right hand to take book from right hand pocket (would be awkward crossing body)
*704 – Shakes Mouri’s hand with right (unavoidable: etiquette)
*755 – left hand to open door (left side hinges)
*809 – Opens car door with left hand (door to Okiya's left)

== Gin ==
Known left handed. Note that I think Gin’s handedness was incorrectly portrayed in the first chapter.

=== Guns ===
*16 – Left to hold and fire gun
*239 - (dream Gin) left to hold gun
*241 – left to shoot
*242 – left to aim gun, right to hold hair (note doing it the other way around would require him to switch gun hands)
*242– left to shoot
*383 - left hand to point gun
*383 – cocks pistol in a left handed fashion (left on grip, right to slide)
*383 – holds pistol in left hand
*500 – left to hold gun while sitting in car
*504 - pulls gun on Vermouth with left hand
*504 – grabs Korn’s rifle with right hand, but uses left hand style (left finger on trigger while supporting with right, using left eye
*606 – left to hold handgun
*607 – left to hold handgun
*607 – left to hold handgun
*702/703 – left to hold handgun (In this situation I believe Gin planned to be sitting on the left side of the car so he can use his dominant hand to aim at Kir)

=== Miscellaneous ===
*1 - right hand to adjust hat
*1 - not sure about which hand was forward on his grip on lead pipe, but held it in right had afterward
*1 – Opened APTX container with left hand, while pulling pill out with right
*1 - Propped Shinichi up with left, administered pill and water with right
*1 - right hand to adjust hat
*33 – Briefcase under left arm
*33 – Looks at watch on left wrist (note Vodka’s on right wrist in same chap. After this chapter watches seemed to switch to off side wrist instead of dominant side)
*33 – Briefcase under right arm
*33 - lights cigarette with left hand (note Gosho reverses picture later for some reason)
*238 - Left to light cigarette with match
*238 - left hand to pick up hair while driving, right on handle.
*238 - left hand to find bug under seat while driving, right on handle
*238 – left hand to examine then crush bug while driving, right on handle
*287 – left to stub cigarette in Vodka’s martini
*287 – right to grab Vermouth’s head and pin her, left to attack with the ice pick
*287 – left to dispense cigarette
*383 – takes CD case from Vodka with right hand
*383 - picks up Vodka’s cigarette with left while holding CD-case in right hand
*383 – removes CD- case backing and displays case with tracker to Vodka using left hand.
*383 – crushes bug with left while still holding the CD-case in his right hand
*383 - removes right hand glove and feels for radiant heat from case with right hand (may be significance to using off-hand here)
*383 – holds CD case in left hand
*503 – left to point at map
*503 - grabs shoe with left hand
*504 – shushes Vodka with right hand index finger
*504 – fishes Conan’s bug out of left breast pocket with right hand and holds it in right hand to speak into it

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*177 – left shoulder then left hand on cell-phone while driving, right on handle
*238 - left hand on cell-phone while driving, right on handle, left to hang up
*239 – left to use cellphone (not driving)
*434 – cell propped on left shoulder while using left to drive and right to fiddle to light cigarette
*434 – left to hold cell, right to drive.
*501 – left to hold cell while in passenger seat
*502 – left to hold radio in one panel, then switched to right hand in next panel appearance, then back to left again for 2 panels, then back to right for two panels
*503 – dialing cell with left hand in passenger seat
*503 - holds radio with left hand
*503 – holds radio with left hand
*553 – left to use cell while in passenger seat.
*603 – right hand to hold first radio (This may be unavoidable if the radio has a cord and is attached to the dash on Gin's right.<ref>The radio doesn't have an antenna, but unfortunately the art isn't clear enough to tell.</ref>)
*603 – talks in second radio with right hand. (was sitting in passenger seat so crossover would be awkward would be awkward to grab it.)
*603 – Switched first radio to left hand to speak into it.
*609 - left to hold radio
*704 - left hand to dial phone

=== Unavoidable ===
*1 - right hand to cover face (no choice because of side police are on)
*16 - Left to block Vodka (no choice Gin was slightly to Vodka’s right)
*177 - uses car lighter with right hand - not unexpected since he is the driver and using the left would requiring crossing over his body
*238 – (dream Gin) right to adjust review mirror (Note it would be awkward to adjust it with his left as that would require crossing over his body and blocking his view in the mirror)
*238 - Left to ward off car while crossing road (unavoidable because that is direction car is coming. Crossing over the body would be awkward)
*238 – left to shut car door while getting in driver’s side (using other hand be awkward )
*241 – left to open car door to exit (using other hand be awkward)
*242– left to shoot own right arm
*242– left to shoot (right arm had been shot)
*383 – transfers pistol to right hand to open lockers (left side hinges)
*383 – left to close lockers (left side hinges)
*504 – Right hand to dispense cigarettes, left to grab car lighter (crossover would be awkward)
*553 – flicks cigarette out window with right hand (crossover would be awkward)

== Vodka ==
Known right handed (wore and looked at watch on opposite wrist as Gin's in one case)
=== Guns ===
*1- right hand to draw gun, briefcase stowed under left arm
*241 – right to fire gun
*242 – right to shoot
*383- takes flashlight in left hand, gun in right for search

=== Miscellaneous ===
*1 – right hand to return film
*1 – briefcase under right arm
*33 –Waved Conan off with right
*33 – Looks at watch on right wrist (Note Gin’s is on left wrist. After this chapter watches seemed to switch to off side wrist instead of dominant side)
*33 - lights cigarette with right hand
*239 – Right to raise hood/bonnet of Porsche
*239 – right to use bug-scanner/radio/whatever that object is
*241 – left to hold computer, right to type
*287 – right to hold martini
*383 – Vodka’s watch on left wrist now, likely continuity error
*383 – hold flashlight with right hand
*383 – put flashlight under right arm to free right hand to pick up a check with the right, while opening the locker with the left (left hinged locker door)
*383 – right hand to grab taped down CD-case and hand it to Gin
*502 – right to turn off monitor

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*381 – left to talk on cellphone for a single panel, then right to talk on the cellphone for the rest of the panels (note the hand used switched in the middle of the same scene) minor art continuity error?
*382 – left to talk on cellphone, right to drive (left side drive)
*383 – remove right hand glove to pick at tape sticking down CD-case, while holding cellphone with left hand
*434 – right hand to hold cell (standing)
*503 – talking on radio with right while driving with left hand.
*702 – talking on cellphone with left hand while parked 

=== Unavoidable ===
*1 - right hand to cover face (no choice because of side police are on)
*33 – touches suitcase with right hand (left not practical because of cross body)
*241 - right arm to open door (right hand door)
*241 – right to fiddle with Baijiu bottle
*383 - right hand to talk on cellphone while using left to open door to exit car
*383 – right to hold flashlight while lighting cigarette with left (would have had to switch flashlight hands)

==Sera Masumi==
===Miscellaneous===
*768: Right hand to grip overhead bar
*768: Left hand strike at Ran followed by a high right leg sweep. (Ambiguous as hand to hand combat relies on effective use of both hands and legs.)
*768: Grabbed pervert’s hand with right hand
*768: Grabbed pervert’s hand with right hand again
*769: Gestures to ears with left hand
*769: Grabs chin with left hand
*769: Examines string evidence with hanky using right hand
*769: Touches paint can with right hand
*770: Rubs back of head with right hand
*770: Facepalms with left hand
*771: Right hand to touch face
*771: Bag over left shoulder (opposite Sonoko)
*771: Facepalms with right hand
*771: Right hand to touch face
*771: Grabs Ran’s phone with right hand, pretend to close it on the phone strap, and set it down.
*773: Left hand to touch face
*774: Gripping bag with left hand over left shoulder (same as Sonoko)
*777: Uses right handed mouse
*778 – Touches face with right hand
*787 – Bag over left shoulder using left hand(same as Sonoko)
*798 – Right hand to fiddle with helmet
*798 – Bluetooth device (or whatever it is) clipped to left lapel (set for right hand answer as shown later)
*798 – Right hand to raise helmet.
*799 – Helmet under right arm
*801 – Switches school bag to left arm over shoulder. (Bags over shoulders tend to switch up hands a lot.)
*801 – Touches face with right hand.
*801 – Gestures to Ran with right hand

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*798 – Using left hand to hold phone to ear.
*800 – Answers phone with right hand 
*800 – Holding phone earpiece in left ear with left hand (Same as Amuro and opposite Okiya)
*801 – Using left hand to hold phone to ear. Possibly unavoidable since holding school bag under right arm.

===Unavoidable===
*769: Grabs Conan’s head with right hand (Conan was standing on Sera’s right)
*771: Blocks Ran with left hand (Ran was standing on Sera’s left)
*773: Right hand to whisper to Ran (Ran was standing on Sera’s right) and then uses same hand’s finger to make a shush sign

==Amuro Tohru==
===Miscellaneous===
*793 – Serves Ran cake with right hand 
*793 – Grabs Banba’s shoulders with right hand
*793 – Holding platter with left hand (keeps right hand free)
*793 – Grabs head with right hand after being knocked down. Left to support
*793 – Takes glasses off with right hand
*794 – Touches face with right hand
*795 – Holding platter with left hand (keeps right hand free)
*795 – Left hand to mouth to whisper
*795 – Right hand to salute
*796 – Points to self with right hand
*796 – Holds coffee cup in right hand
*796 – Examining coffee cup by holding it in his left hand
*796 – Right hand to face to make “shush” gesture
*797 – Left hand to focus voice.
*797 – Right hand to hang up Ran’s phone 
*797 – Left hand to face to make “shush” gesture
*797 – Right hand to hold up bug detector. (several times)
*797 – Right hand to use bug detector (several times)
*798 – Right hand to examine condition of body in suitcase
*798 – Right hand to focus voice.
*800 – Touches face with left hand

=== Using phones, radios, listening devices ===
*800 – Answers phone with left hand (Same as Sera and opposite Okiya)
*808 – Deletes message on touchscreen phone using only right hand.

===Unavoidable===
*796 – Closes door with left hand (looking around room, left side hinges)
*796 – Right hand to open door (right side hinges)
*798 – Right hand to open door (right side hinges)
*800 – Grabbing Ran (she is to his left.)

==Notes==
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