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The Darkest Nightmare

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{{InfoBox Movie
| video = ZZ-FzCK9Uq4
| movie = 20
| image = Movie 20.jpg
| title = Detective Conan: The Darkest Nightmare
| japanese-title = {{lang|ja|名探偵コナン<ruby>純黒<rp>(</rp><rt>じゅんこく</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>の<ruby>悪夢<rp>(</rp><rt>ナイトメア</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>}} (''Meitantei Conan: Junkoku no Naitomea'')
| airdate = April 16, 2016
| english-airdate =
| cast = [[Conan Edogawa]] [[Shinichi Kudo]] [[Ran Mouri]] [[Ai Haibara]] [[Kogoro Mouri]]<ref name="kog">Weekly Shōnen Sunday No.1 (2016)</ref> [[Shuichi Akai]] [[Jodie Starling]] [[James Black]] [[Andre Camel]] [[Hidemi Hondou]] [[Rei Furuya]] [[Detective Boys]] [[Sonoko Suzuki]] [[Hiroshi Agasa|Professor Agasa]] [[Juzo Megure|Inspector Megure]] [[Wataru Takagi|Detective Takagi]] [[Miwako Sato|Detective Sato]] [[Kazunobu Chiba|Detective Chiba]]<ref name="chiba">[http://twitter.com/isshinchiba1 @isshinchiba1 - Twitter]</ref> [[Detective Matsuda]] [[Azusa Enomoto]] [[Gin]] [[Vodka]] [[Vermouth]] [[Chianti]] [[Korn]] [[Rum]] [[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]] [[List of notable case characters#Stout|Stout]] [[List of notable case characters#Aquavit|Aquavit]] [[List of notable case characters#Riesling|Riesling]]
| suspects =
| solved-by =
| voice-cast = [[Minami Takayama]] as [[Conan Edogawa]] [[Kappei Yamaguchi]] as [[Shinichi Kudo]] [[Wakana Yamazaki]] as [[Ran Mouri]] [[Megumi Hayashibara]] as [[Ai Haibara]] [[Rikiya Koyama]] as [[Kogoro Mouri]]<ref name="kog" /> [[Shuichi Ikeda]] as [[Shuichi Akai]] [[Miyuki Ichijou]] as [[Jodie Starling]] [[Takaya Hashi]] as [[James Black]] [[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] as [[Andre Camel]] [[Kotono Mitsuishi]] as [[Hidemi Hondou|Rena Mizunashi]] [[Tohru Furuya]] as [[Rei Furuya|Tooru Amuro]] [[Wataru Takagi (voice actor)|Wataru Takagi]] as [[Genta Kojima]], [[Wataru Takagi|Detective Takagi]] [[Yukiko Iwai]] as [[Ayumi Yoshida]] [[Ikue Otani]] as [[Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya]] [[Naoko Matsui]] as [[Sonoko Suzuki]] [[Kenichi Ogata]] as [[Hiroshi Agasa|Professor Agasa]] [[Chafurin]] as [[Juzo Megure|Inspector Megure]] [[Atsuko Yuya]] as [[Miwako Sato|Detective Sato]] [[Isshin Chiba]] as [[Kazunobu Chiba|Detective Chiba]] [[Mikiko Enomoto]] as [[Azusa Enomoto]] [[Yukitoshi Hori]] as [[Gin]] [[Fumihiko Tachiki]] as [[Vodka]] [[Mami Koyama]] as [[Vermouth]] [[Kikuko Inoue]] as [[Chianti]] [[Hiroyuki Kinoshita]] as [[Korn]] [[Yuki Amami]] as [[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]] [[Michael Reese]] as [[List of notable case characters#Stout|Stout]] [[Kurt Common]] as [[List of notable case characters#Aquavit|Aquavit]] [[Yoko Soumi]] as [[List of notable case characters#Riesling|Riesling]] [[Nobuo Tobita]] as [[Yuya Kazami]]<ref name="CharAmuroInterview">[[Shuichi Ikeda|Ikeda, Shuichi]]; [[Tohru Furuya|Furuya, Tohru]] (March 23, 2016). [http://www.animate.tv/news/details.php?id=1458689734 ''劇場版『名探偵コナン』が「通常の3倍」観たくなる奇跡の対談！――劇場版『名探偵コナン純黒の悪夢(ナイトメア)」』インタビュー'']. Interview with Sòng, Risk. [[wikipedia:Animate|Animate]].. Animate TV. Retrieved on March 24, 2016.</ref>
| director = [[Kobun Shizuno]]
| screenplay = [[Takeharu Sakurai]]
| theme-song = Sekai wa Anata no Iro ni Naru
| case =
| prev-movie = Sunflowers of Inferno
| next-movie = Movie 21
| footnotes =
}}
'''The Darkest Nightmare''' is the 20th movie in the ''[[Detective Conan]]'' franchise and the third about the [[Black Organization]].<ref>[http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12705&start=15#p851862 (Spoilers) Postcard and Animal Crossings hints/ spoilers - Page 2 - DCTP Forums]</ref> It released in Japanese theaters on April 16, 2016.

== Characters introduced ==
{{BeginBox}}
{{newChar|[[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]]|M20 odd eyes woman.jpg|
* Has severe amnesia
* [[wikipedia:_Heterochromia_iridum|Heterochromaic eyes]]
* Member of the [[Black Organization]]<ref name=conan-movie>[http://conan-movie.jp/news20/ News about Movie 20] (February 9, 2016)</ref>}}
{{newChar|[[list of notable case characters#Riesling|Riesling]]|Riesling.jpg|link=Riesling|
* German [[wikipedia:_Federal_Intelligence_Service_(Germany)|BND]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization}}
{{newChar|[[list of notable case characters#Stout|Stout]]|Stout.jpg|link=Stout|
* English [[wikipedia:_Secret_Intelligence_Service|MI6]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization}}
{{clear}}
{{newChar|[[list of notable case characters#Aquavit|Aquavit]]|Aquavit.jpg|link=Aquavit|
* Canadian [[wikipedia:_Canadian_Security_Intelligence_Service|CSIS]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization}}
{{newChar|[[Yuya Kazami]]|Yuya Kazami.jpg|link=Yuya Kazami|
* Officer of the Japanese [[Public Security Bureau|PSB]]<ref name="CharAmuroInterview" />
* [[Rei Furuya|Rei]]'s direct subordinate<ref name="CharAmuroInterview" />}}
{{EndBox}}

== Cast ==

{{Char Appearances|
{{Char|Conan Edogawa}}
{{Char|Shinichi Kudo|display=Shinichi Kudo (voice/background)}}
{{Char|Shuichi Akai}}
{{Char|Rei Furuya}}
{{Char|Gin}}
{{Char|Vodka}}
{{Char|Vermouth}}
{{Char|Chianti}}
{{Char|Korn}}
{{Char|Rum|"The Criminal"|display=Rum (voice)}}
{{Char|Hidemi Hondou}}
{{Char|Jodie Starling}}
{{Char|James Black}}
{{Char|Andre Camel}}
{{Char|Kogoro Mouri}}
{{Char|Ran Mouri}}
{{Char|Ai Haibara}}
{{Char|Ayumi Yoshida}}
{{Char|Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya}}
{{Char|Genta Kojima}}
{{Char|Hiroshi Agasa|display=Professor Agasa}}
{{Char|Sonoko Suzuki}}
{{Char|Juzo Megure|display=Inspector Megure}}
{{Char|Wataru Takagi|display=Detective Takagi}}
{{Char|Miwako Sato|display=Detective Sato}}
{{Char|Kazunobu Chiba|display=Detective Chiba}}
{{Char|Jinpei Matsuda|display=Detective Matsuda (background)}}
{{Char|Azusa Enomoto}}

}}


== Gadgets ==
{{Gadgets Appearances|
{{Gadget|Criminal Tracking Glasses}}
{{Gadget|Turbo Engine Skateboard}}
{{Gadget|Power-Enhancing Kick Shoes}}
{{Gadget|Anywhere Ball Dispensing Belt}}
{{Gadget|Voice-Changing Bowtie}}
{{Gadget|Elasticity Suspenders}}
}}

== Case ==
[[Image:Movie 20 story images.jpg‎|thumb|left|180px|Images from the movie site that accompany the story text.]]
=== Situation ===
Mysterious assassinations have been happening around the world. The suspect is a spy accessing classified files. In Japan, a spy breaks into police headquarters and accesses secret files on spies planted in the [[Black Organization]] by many intelligence agencies: the English [[wikipedia:_Secret_Intelligence_Service|MI6]], the Canadian [[wikipedia:_Canadian_Security_Intelligence_Service|CSIS]], the German [[wikipedia:_Federal_Intelligence_Service_(Germany)|BND]], and the American [[Central Intelligence Agency|CIA]] and [[Federal Bureau of Investigation|FBI]]. Before this spy can steal the files, [[Rei Furuya]] arrives with a cadre of his [[Public Security Bureau|secret police officers]]. The spy makes a getaway in a stolen car, but Rei soon catches up in his [[Cars#Rei.27s_Mazda_RX-7|Mazda FD RX-7]]. The two jockey for position on the highway and are about to cause a huge wreck. Before they can crash, [[Shuichi Akai]] snipes the spy's car from the hood of [[Cars#Akai.27s_Ford_Mustang|his red and white striped Ford Mustang]]. The spy's car tumbles off the highway and explodes.

The next day, [[Conan Edogawa|Conan]], [[Hiroshi Agasa|Professor Agasa]], [[Ai Haibara|Haibara]], and the [[Detective Boys]] meet up at the newly renovated "Tohto Aquarium". Under the centerpiece of the park, a massive ferris wheel, they find an injured woman with "odd eyes" ([[wikipedia:_heterochromia_iridum|heterochromia]]). The woman is suffering memory loss, she doesn't know her own name and even her cellphone is broken. Conan and his friends decide to stay together with her and help her to recover her memory. Unknown to Conan and his friends, [[Vermouth]] had been lurking nearby with a silenced pistol and had overheard everything. She pulls back and contacts her comrades: "It's as planned, [[Gin]]." The woman in question is in fact a new member of the Black Organization.

{{InfoBox Crime
| crime = Murder
| image = Movie20_Case1.jpg
| location = [[wikipedia:London|London]]
| victim = [[List of notable case characters#Stout|Stout]]
| cause-death = Gunshot wound to the temple (right)
| suspects = [[Korn]]
| suspects-label = Culprit
| description =
}}
{{InfoBox Crime
| crime = Murder
| image = Movie20_Case2.jpg
| location = [[wikipedia:_CN_Tower|CN Tower]] ([[wikipedia:Toronto|Toronto]])
| victim = [[List of notable case characters#Aquavit|Aquavit]]
| cause-death = Gunshot wound to the chest
| suspects = [[Chianti]]
| suspects-label = Culprit
| description =
}}
{{InfoBox Crime
| crime = Murder
| image = Movie20_Case3.jpg
| location = [[wikipedia:Berlin|Berlin]]
| victim = [[List of notable case characters#Riesling|Riesling]]
| cause-death = Gunshot wound to the head
| suspects = [[Gin]]
| suspects-label = Culprit
| description =
}}

=== People ===
{{BeginBox}}
{{People|[[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]]|M20 odd eyes woman.jpg|
* Has severe amnesia
* [[wikipedia:_Heterochromia_iridum|Heterochromaic eyes]]
* Member of the [[Black Organization]]<ref name=conan-movie/>}}
{{People|[[List of notable case characters#Riesling|Riesling]]|Riesling.jpg|
* German [[wikipedia:_Federal_Intelligence_Service_(Germany)|BND]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization
* Victim (gunshot)}}
{{People|[[List of notable case characters#Stout|Stout]]|Stout.jpg|
* English [[wikipedia:_Secret_Intelligence_Service|MI6]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization
* Victim (gunshot)}}
{{People|[[List of notable case characters#Aquavit|Aquavit]]|Aquavit.jpg|
* Canadian [[wikipedia:_Canadian_Security_Intelligence_Service|CSIS]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization
* Victim (gunshot)}}
{{people|[[Yuya Kazami]]|Yuya Kazami.jpg|
* Officer of the Japanese [[Public Security Bureau|PSB]]<ref name="CharAmuroInterview" />
* Rei's direct subordinate<ref name="CharAmuroInterview" />}}
{{EndBox}}

=== Resolution ===
<spoiler>
</spoiler>
{{clear}}

== Music ==
{{nihongo|2=世界はあなたの色になる|3=[[Sekai wa Anata no Iro ni Naru]]|4="The World Will Become Your Color"}}, by [[B'z]].

== Preview and Teaser information ==
{| style="float:left;"
|-
| style="vertical-align: top"|[[File:Movie 20 Akai sniping.jpg‎|thumb|right|200px|[[Shuichi Akai]] sniping from the hood of [[vehicles in Detective Conan#Akai's Ford Mustang|his red Mustang]].]]

| style="vertical-align: top"|

| style="vertical-align: top"|

| style="vertical-align: top"|[[File:Movie 20 Odd Eyes Character.jpg|160px|thumb|right|[[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]] will be voiced by [[Yuki Amami]].<ref>[http://twitter.com/conan_movie/status/696787540318117889 Official Conan Movie twitter]</ref>]]

| style="vertical-align: top"|[[File:Movie 20 Odd Eyes Character 90 sec trailer.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Curaçao appeared in a new 90 second trailer with yet another new set of eyes.]]

| style="vertical-align: top"|[[File:Movie 20 Characters.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Characters Pick Up.]]
|}
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The post-credits teaser at the end of movie 19, [[Sunflowers of Inferno]], features a glass of alcohol at a bar, with [[Gin]]'s voice saying: "[[Hidemi Hondou|Kir]], [[Rei Furuya|Bourbon]]... Don't tell me?"<ref>[http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTM2Mzk4MTU4OA==.html Detective Conan - Movie 20 - Teaser]</ref>

;[[Super Digest Books]]:
70+ 
Q57: Won't Aoyama-sensei be the executive director of the 20th anniversary movie? 
A: I won't be, even though I want to. I can't stop the serialization. 


;[[Postcards]] and [[Animal Crossing promotional hints]]:
[[File:Akai movie sketch.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Gosho Aoyama drew sketches of Akai for the movie]]
* Gin will appear in next year's movie. (postcard 2015)
* Amuro will appear in next year's movie. (postcard 2015)
* 2015-05-08: The next movie will be Amuro vs Akai.
* 2015-09-06: Drew a poster with Amuro and Akai.
* 2015-09-21: It's Boxing vs. Jeet Kune Do.
* 2015-10-02: [[Rum]] will be in the next movie.
* 2015-10-24: Akai's car in the movie is a Mustang.
* 2015-11-11: FD vs. Mustang! Can't wait to see it~
* 2015-11-19: The title is ◯○◯koku no ◯◯◯◯◯ (revealed to be "Junkoku no Naitomea")
* 2015-12-05: There won't be horse-riding in the movie.
* 2015-12-11: For now, I've drawn Akai's key frame.
* The Rum that appears in the movie is the real deal, of course lol (postcard 2016)
[[File:Woman with Amnesia movie sketch.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Gosho Aoyama drew sketches of [[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]] for the movie]]
* 2016-02-24: Of course I drew the key frame for Amuro♪
* 2016-03-02: The illustration I drew has 3 handsomes on it!
* 2016-03-13: The third person makes their debut in the movie!
* 2016-03-20: Scotch? Date? Kuroda? No.
* 2016-03-25: Everyone knows that the 3rd person in the poster...
* 2016-03-25: ...won't be overshadowed by Akai and Amuro....
* 2016-03-25: ...What a handsome! I got a surprise when I was in the theater...
* 2016-03-25: ...Those who go to the private screening: don't tell others!
* 2016-03-28: There will soon be private screening! Exiting!

;Let's Talk with [[Gosho Aoyama|Gosho Aoyama-sensei]] Day 2016:
* SIS ([[wikipedia:_Secret_Intelligence_Service|MI6]]) may appear.
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== Trivia ==
[[File:MV-22_Osprey_Line_Drawing.svg|thumb|Line drawing of a V-22 Osprey (MV-22)]]
* This is the first movie to feature [[Central Intelligence Agency|CIA]] agent [[Hidemi Hondou]], as well as [[Public Security Bureau]] agent [[Rei Furuya]].
* The helicopter seen at the movie's climax is a [[wikipedia:_Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey|Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey]]. This American military aircraft is unique for having tiltrotors: rotors which move between a vertical position like a helicopter and a horizontal position like a turboprop plane. The V-22 can take off vertically and hover, but also cruise long range at high speed. At the time this film was released, no V-22 Ospreys have been delivered to non-US countries, although Japan's parliament approved a defense budget in January 2015 with funding for five V-22s which will be delivered by 2018. Between 2012 and 2014, between 6 and 24 of the Marine Variant MV-22 Ospreys were deployed at American Marine Corps Air Station Futenma in Okinawa. Incidentally the V-22 has acquired notoriety for crashing, which prompted protests by Okinawans who doubted its airworthiness.
:There are two routes the [[Black Organization]] might have used to obtain a V-22. One is to steal one from an American military base in Japan. The other is to have secretly infiltrated a military base in the United States where damaged, defective, or decommissioned V-22s are stored, disassembled one (or parts of several), and removed it while creating a false paper trail that it had been decommissioned and cannibalized for parts.
* Curaçao is a constituent country of the [[wikipedia:Netherlands|Netherlands]], near the coast of [[wikipedia:Venezuela|Venezuela]]. It is also the namesake for alcoholic beverages made of Laraha Citrus, a kind of orange. Curaçao is one of few codenamed members of the Organization who do not follow the pattern of codenaming female agent after wine-based alcoholic beverages.
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== Gallery ==
{{main gallery}}
<gallery perrow="5" widths="185px">
File:M20 Rei.jpg|[[Rei Furuya]] driving
File:M20 Shu.jpg|[[Shuichi Akai]] sniping
File:M20 GV.jpg|[[Vodka]] and [[Gin]] with guns
File:M20 Akai vs Amuro.jpg|Shuichi vs. Rei
File:M20 Rei and Hidemi.png|Rei and [[Hidemi Hondou]] prisoners of Gin
File:M20 Gin with a gun.jpg|Gin with a gun
File:M20 Vermouth.jpg|[[Vermouth]] after an explosion
File:M20 the DB and the woman.jpg|The [[Detective Boys]] play with [[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]]
</gallery>

== See also ==
* [[Movies]]
* [[The Shadow Sneaking Up on Amuro]]
* [[Black Organization]]
* [[Federal Bureau of Investigation]]
* [[Central Intelligence Agency]]
* [[Public Security Bureau]]

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== References ==
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Talk:The Boss of the Black Organization

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== Changing name to "The Boss of the Black Organization" from "Anokata" ==
I've been thinking about the page name since I am planning to feature this article, and I think it would make more sense to rename this page "The Boss of the Black Organization". It's a bit long (redirects will help), but it is more descriptive than "ano kata". "The Boss of the Black Organization" can't be mistaken for the Magic Kaito Organization's boss who is also called "ano kata" or "the boss". Someone who doesn't know much about the series or doesn't remember the Japanese term will have an easier time searching for "the boss". Across the rest of the wiki, using the brief "the Boss" instead of "The Boss of the Black Organization" makes the most sense, unless referring to someone speaking about the boss and using "ano kata" is more appropriate.

If you or someone else objects to the renaming, '''you are free to change it back and start a discussion about it here''' per Wikipedia style [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold|BOLD]] protocol. I'm doing it this way because usually these talk page discussions rarely get anything done or generate much attention unless something is changed that people care about. Some discussions have been hanging for months to years without decisions one way or the other. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:11, 3 February 2013 (PST)

== Phone number vs mail address ==

In researching an IP's edit, I looked up the official term used. In File 475 page 3 middle left panel and page 4 top panel, Conan used the term: "ボスのメールアドレス" (Literally boss's mail address). I'm not sure whether this should be translated as phone number or email address because it looks like a phone number rather than an email and various Conan promotionals in Japan advertised calling a phone number like you were calling the boss. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 08:19, 12 December 2014 (CET)
:I was the IP who did the edit, and I think we have enough proof to say it is an e-mail address rather than a phone number (in Japan each mobile phone have an e-mail address associated to it, and they use e-mail rather than SMS to send messages).
* In file 434 Vermouth receives an e-mail from the boss and replies with another '''e-mail''', not by calling him/her (even though she whispers "Ok, boss" after reading the message): this is the first time Conan hears Nanatsu no Ko, even though he doesn't recognize it right away; Conan even tells Vermouth that if it will look like his heart stopped then the '''address''' to which she just sent the '''e-mail''' will be found out.
* In file 439 Conan thinks that if he had that '''address''' he could find out the boss' identity.
* In file 470 Conan confirms that Vermouth sent an '''e-email''', and Agasa wonders if the numbers dialed are familiar to Conan because they contain letters often used by Conan in his messages: you can't use letters in phone numbers but you can in '''e-mail'''; it's true that Conan here search for the telephone numbering plan of Tottori, but only because he found out that the sound of the first four numbers used to make a phone call to someone who lives in Tottori (0858) is similar to the beginning of the sound of the boss' '''e-mail address''' (which, as we find later, starts with #969, whose sound is similar to 0858).
* In file 475 Conan confirms again that what Vermouth sent was an '''e-email''' and discovers that #969#6261 is the boss' '''e-mail address'''. A note by Gosho Aoyama says that in real life '''e-mail addresses''' can't have "#", but he decided that in the Conanverse they can to avoid pranks; of course if this was a phone number he would have done things differently, using a real telephone numbering plan (like 0858 for Tottori) and only using symbols that can't be used in the second part of the number to avoid pranks, but since '''e-mail addresses''' are (unlike phone numbers) totally unrelated from from where you live it doesn't matter where the impossible symbols are positioned in the number. Still in file 475, Agasa asks Conan if he sent an '''e-mail''' to the boss, which he denies; he sais that he wants Takagi to investigate that '''address''', while Ai thinks the '''address''' is like Pandora's box.
* In file 479, Conan is about to write an '''e-mail''': we can read the '''address''' (#969#6261, which by mistake became #696#6261 in the anime) but he hasn't started yet writing it, and he decides not to do so.
* In file 499, Conan sees Yoko calling someone, and thinks of the fact that now everytime he sees someone using a cell phone he is reminded of Vermouth and the boss' '''e-mail address''', and also thinks of Ai saying the '''address''' is like Pandora's box. At the end of that file and the beginning of file 500 Conan hears Rena dialing Nanatsu no Ko and then she is called by Gin: she informs Gin that she only had a small problem which she just informed Anokata '''via e-mail'''. Still in file 500, Ai asks Conan if he is sure that Rena is from the BO, and Conan answers that she sent an '''e-mail''' to their boss and then received a phone call from Gin.
* In file 595, Ran says Esuke told her he heard someone (Kusuda) dial an '''e-email address''' that sounded like Nanatsu no Ko. Eisuke mistook Kusuda for a colleague of his father because Ethan was a mole inside the BO, and thus sent various '''e-mail''' to an '''address''' that sounded like Nanatsu no Ko; Eisuke asked what was this sound, and Ethan answered he was '''sending an e-mail''' to "his boss" (the BO boss).
* In file 605 James says that it is better if Eisuke gets into the witness protection program since he knows the BO boss' '''mail address'''. --[[Special:Contributions/87.8.35.181|87.8.35.181]] 12:11, 12 December 2014 (CET)

::I think the problem I'm hearing from others I asked at the DCTP spoiler box is that the argument it is an email overly relies on the literal translation rather than looking at how the number is actually being used.
::{{cquote|@Chek: The problem with calling it an e-mail address is that, even in Japan, e-mail addresses take the form of something@something.sth, like the rest of the world, while the boss' address is just numbers (with the # just there to ensure it's not real). If we then add in the fact that, as jimmy said, '''text messages (via phone) are called 'mail' in Japan''', I'd call the number we have a phone number. Calling it an e-mail address certainly makes little sense.|Fujiwara in the spoiler cbox}}
::The best evidence about how the address is actually being used suggests that it is a phone number that is being used for texting. You can't dial an email with a 9 digit keypad to make the nanatsu no ko sound (no .s or @s). Nor do I think it is a coincidence that the length of the number is the exact length of a Japanese phone number (9 digits for a geographic number), and has no @s. Promotional offers in Japan related to Conan (I recall one for M13) had people dial the boss's phone number to hear a pre-recorded message - which suggests that it is a phone number not an email. Also keep in mind the cellphone arc took place way back in 2003/2004, which was pretty early in the smartphone tech cycle. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 19:06, 12 December 2014 (CET)
:::The Italian manga sometimes uses "indirizzo di posta elettronica" ("e-mail address"), while other times uses "SMS", and I believe the former is correct and the latter is an imprecision; on the other hand, "numero di telefono" ("phone number") is never used. The [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultura_dei_telefoni_cellulari_in_Giappone Italian Wikipedia article about phones in Japan], which seems more complete on this point compared to the English Wikipedia, says (my translation) "''One of the main features of Japanese cell phones is the constant use of e-mail on the consumer's part, to the detriment of SMS and in some cases even of the classic calls, especially in public places. An e-mail address is associated with each cell phone at the time of subscription to a telephone company: this operation requires a certificate of residence, an account in a Japanese bank or with a local credit card, an employment contract or the presence of a warrantor of Japanese nationality, other the the reguar passport; these requirement are similar to what is required for the stipulation of a lease. The concept of e-mail in Japan is mainly associated with cell phones, to the point that some young Japanese ignore the possibility of sending e-mail through a PC''". So, we can conclude that Japanese use e-mail like we use SMS (explaining why some manga translations use "SMS" instead of "e-mail") but the phone number and the mail address are actually two different numbers: for example in file 340 Ran sends an e-mail to Shinichi using her cell phone, but in file 426 she complains about not having Shinichi's phone number because when he calls her he hides his number; she will not get his number until file 483. According to Agasa, letters can be used for e-mail addresses in Japan, but this doesn't prevent numbers to be used, I think. Plus, I don't see how Gosho could have intended #969#6261 to be a phone number, since phone numbers start with a telephone numbering plan, which "#969" is not: one thing is to start a number with a real numbering plan and then using impossible symbols like "#" to avoid pranks, another thing is using a non-existent numbering plan. You said "Nor do I think it is a coincidence that the length of the number is the exact length of a Japanese phone number (9 digits for a geographic number)", but if this is the case then Conan should have known right away that the number has 9 digits, while in file 470 he tells Agasa that the number has 8 or 9 digits. In conclusion, I think that if we write that #969#6261 is the boss' phone number we will confuse the reader, because that number has only been used to send messages to the boss, not to call him/her, and this is an important point: if Vermouth called the boss instead of sending a message in file 434, then Conan would have heard the boss' voice and would know al least his/her gender. --[[Special:Contributions/87.8.52.110|87.8.52.110]] 20:06, 12 December 2014 (CET)

* I created some forum topics for visibility, I am hoping some Japanese speakers will weigh in. I will keep your half in the first post updated as you see fit. Just send me a notification on my talk page or at the forums if you want something changed or more stuff added or deleted. I pretty much just copied what you wrote directly. [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/5521-is-the-bosss-number-a-phone-number-or-an-email-address/ DCW] [http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12601 DCTP] [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 02:06, 13 December 2014 (CET)
:I hope someone can help us clarify the question then. --[[Special:Contributions/87.9.52.29|87.9.52.29]] 17:54, 13 December 2014 (CET)

== Wanted images ==

An IP is looking for these images if you have them handy:
* Conan imagines the boss as a big [["The Criminal"|criminal silhouette]] in [[Volume 46#Stradivarius Murder Case|file 470]].
* Haibara imagines her former unknown boss as a criminal silhouette in [http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D580/sign=8c9d069bf403918fd7d13dc2613c264b/8208b3de9c82d158230508ca830a19d8bd3e42c3.jpg special manga].
* Conan imagines the boss as a normal criminal silhouette in [[episode 398]], but not in [[Volume 46#Suspicious Cellphone Case|file 479]].

[[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 15:14, 22 October 2015 (CEST)

[[Image:BossBlackshadow3.jpg|x175px|thumb|left|Haibara imagines her former unknown boss as a normal criminal silhouette in the [[Detective Conan Special|special manga]] ([[Special Volume 26|volume 26]]).]]
:Kicked this image off the page because we have enough images of the boss of the Black Organization as it is. Galleries are meant to be informative to prevent bloat, not a laundry list of every picture of the character. That means each picture needs to tell a different story from the last. We already have four separate, highly similar, shadowmen boss pictures. We really only need one. We certainly don't need five all showing the same thing, a scary no-detail guy looming. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 04:39, 6 March 2016 (CET)
::But the character design from special manga is very different from the original manga. For example, the criminal silhouettes have always a very demoniac expression. Then this image for the unknown Boss could to be edit. --[[Special:Contributions/79.24.235.149|79.24.235.149]] 10:57, 12 May 2016 (CEST)
:::I've seen the special manga boss images before. They look similar to all the other depictions: a generically menacing shadow dude. As I said before "Galleries are meant to be informative to prevent bloat, not a laundry list of every picture of the character." The addition of yet another shadowperson with a slightly different expression will not add new information to the article that isn't already shown. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 01:48, 15 May 2016 (CEST)
::::Then, what do you think to edit it in "[[The Boss of the Black Organization#Special Manga: Volume 26|Special Manga: Volume 26]]", which specifies his/her background in the special manga? --[[Special:Contributions/82.54.234.90|82.54.234.90]] 09:06, 15 May 2016 (CEST)

The Darkest Nightmare

2016-05-15T07:03:59Z

82.54.234.90: /* Situation */

{{InfoBox Movie
| video = ZZ-FzCK9Uq4
| movie = 20
| image = Movie 20.jpg
| title = Detective Conan: The Darkest Nightmare
| japanese-title = {{lang|ja|名探偵コナン<ruby>純黒<rp>(</rp><rt>じゅんこく</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>の<ruby>悪夢<rp>(</rp><rt>ナイトメア</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>}} (''Meitantei Conan: Junkoku no Naitomea'')
| airdate = April 16, 2016
| english-airdate =
| cast = [[Conan Edogawa]] [[Shinichi Kudo]] [[Ran Mouri]] [[Ai Haibara]] [[Kogoro Mouri]]<ref name="kog">Weekly Shōnen Sunday No.1 (2016)</ref> [[Shuichi Akai]] [[Jodie Starling]] [[James Black]] [[Andre Camel]] [[Hidemi Hondou]] [[Rei Furuya]] [[Detective Boys]] [[Sonoko Suzuki]] [[Hiroshi Agasa|Professor Agasa]] [[Juzo Megure|Inspector Megure]] [[Wataru Takagi|Detective Takagi]] [[Miwako Sato|Detective Sato]] [[Kazunobu Chiba|Detective Chiba]]<ref name="chiba">[http://twitter.com/isshinchiba1 @isshinchiba1 - Twitter]</ref> [[Detective Matsuda]] [[Azusa Enomoto]] [[Gin]] [[Vodka]] [[Vermouth]] [[Chianti]] [[Korn]] [[Rum]] [[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]] [[List of notable case characters#Stout|Stout]] [[List of notable case characters#Aquavit|Aquavit]] [[List of notable case characters#Riesling|Riesling]]
| suspects =
| solved-by =
| voice-cast = [[Minami Takayama]] as [[Conan Edogawa]] [[Kappei Yamaguchi]] as [[Shinichi Kudo]] [[Wakana Yamazaki]] as [[Ran Mouri]] [[Megumi Hayashibara]] as [[Ai Haibara]] [[Rikiya Koyama]] as [[Kogoro Mouri]]<ref name="kog" /> [[Shuichi Ikeda]] as [[Shuichi Akai]] [[Miyuki Ichijou]] as [[Jodie Starling]] [[Takaya Hashi]] as [[James Black]] [[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] as [[Andre Camel]] [[Kotono Mitsuishi]] as [[Hidemi Hondou|Rena Mizunashi]] [[Tohru Furuya]] as [[Rei Furuya|Tooru Amuro]] [[Wataru Takagi (voice actor)|Wataru Takagi]] as [[Genta Kojima]], [[Wataru Takagi|Detective Takagi]] [[Yukiko Iwai]] as [[Ayumi Yoshida]] [[Ikue Otani]] as [[Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya]] [[Naoko Matsui]] as [[Sonoko Suzuki]] [[Kenichi Ogata]] as [[Hiroshi Agasa|Professor Agasa]] [[Chafurin]] as [[Juzo Megure|Inspector Megure]] [[Atsuko Yuya]] as [[Miwako Sato|Detective Sato]] [[Isshin Chiba]] as [[Kazunobu Chiba|Detective Chiba]] [[Mikiko Enomoto]] as [[Azusa Enomoto]] [[Yukitoshi Hori]] as [[Gin]] [[Fumihiko Tachiki]] as [[Vodka]] [[Mami Koyama]] as [[Vermouth]] [[Kikuko Inoue]] as [[Chianti]] [[Hiroyuki Kinoshita]] as [[Korn]] [[Yuki Amami]] as [[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]] [[Michael Reese]] as [[List of notable case characters#Stout|Stout]] [[Kurt Common]] as [[List of notable case characters#Aquavit|Aquavit]] [[Yoko Soumi]] as [[List of notable case characters#Riesling|Riesling]] [[Nobuo Tobita]] as [[Yuya Kazami]]<ref name="CharAmuroInterview">[[Shuichi Ikeda|Ikeda, Shuichi]]; [[Tohru Furuya|Furuya, Tohru]] (March 23, 2016). [http://www.animate.tv/news/details.php?id=1458689734 ''劇場版『名探偵コナン』が「通常の3倍」観たくなる奇跡の対談！――劇場版『名探偵コナン純黒の悪夢(ナイトメア)」』インタビュー'']. Interview with Sòng, Risk. [[wikipedia:Animate|Animate]].. Animate TV. Retrieved on March 24, 2016.</ref>
| director = [[Kobun Shizuno]]
| screenplay = [[Takeharu Sakurai]]
| theme-song = Sekai wa Anata no Iro ni Naru
| case =
| prev-movie = Sunflowers of Inferno
| next-movie = Movie 21
| footnotes =
}}
'''The Darkest Nightmare''' is the 20th movie in the ''[[Detective Conan]]'' franchise and the third about the [[Black Organization]].<ref>[http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12705&start=15#p851862 (Spoilers) Postcard and Animal Crossings hints/ spoilers - Page 2 - DCTP Forums]</ref> It released in Japanese theaters on April 16, 2016.

== Characters introduced ==
{{BeginBox}}
{{newChar|[[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]]|M20 odd eyes woman.jpg|
* Has severe amnesia
* [[wikipedia:_Heterochromia_iridum|Heterochromaic eyes]]
* Member of the [[Black Organization]]<ref name=conan-movie>[http://conan-movie.jp/news20/ News about Movie 20] (February 9, 2016)</ref>}}
{{newChar|[[list of notable case characters#Riesling|Riesling]]|Riesling.jpg|link=Riesling|
* German [[wikipedia:_Federal_Intelligence_Service_(Germany)|BND]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization}}
{{newChar|[[list of notable case characters#Stout|Stout]]|Stout.jpg|link=Stout|
* English [[wikipedia:_Secret_Intelligence_Service|MI6]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization}}
{{clear}}
{{newChar|[[list of notable case characters#Aquavit|Aquavit]]|Aquavit.jpg|link=Aquavit|
* Canadian [[wikipedia:_Canadian_Security_Intelligence_Service|CSIS]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization}}
{{newChar|[[Yuya Kazami]]|Yuya Kazami.jpg|link=Yuya Kazami|
* Officer of the Japanese [[Public Security Bureau|PSB]]<ref name="CharAmuroInterview" />
* [[Rei Furuya|Rei]]'s direct subordinate<ref name="CharAmuroInterview" />}}
{{EndBox}}

== Cast ==

{{Char Appearances|
{{Char|Conan Edogawa}}
{{Char|Shinichi Kudo|display=Shinichi Kudo (voice/background)}}
{{Char|Shuichi Akai}}
{{Char|Rei Furuya}}
{{Char|Gin}}
{{Char|Vodka}}
{{Char|Vermouth}}
{{Char|Chianti}}
{{Char|Korn}}
{{Char|Rum|"The Criminal"|display=Rum (voice)}}
{{Char|Hidemi Hondou}}
{{Char|Jodie Starling}}
{{Char|James Black}}
{{Char|Andre Camel}}
{{Char|Kogoro Mouri}}
{{Char|Ran Mouri}}
{{Char|Ai Haibara}}
{{Char|Ayumi Yoshida}}
{{Char|Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya}}
{{Char|Genta Kojima}}
{{Char|Hiroshi Agasa|display=Professor Agasa}}
{{Char|Sonoko Suzuki}}
{{Char|Juzo Megure|display=Inspector Megure}}
{{Char|Wataru Takagi|display=Detective Takagi}}
{{Char|Miwako Sato|display=Detective Sato}}
{{Char|Kazunobu Chiba|display=Detective Chiba}}
{{Char|Jinpei Matsuda|display=Detective Matsuda (background)}}
{{Char|Azusa Enomoto}}

}}


== Gadgets ==
{{Gadgets Appearances|
{{Gadget|Criminal Tracking Glasses}}
{{Gadget|Turbo Engine Skateboard}}
{{Gadget|Power-Enhancing Kick Shoes}}
{{Gadget|Anywhere Ball Dispensing Belt}}
{{Gadget|Voice-Changing Bowtie}}
{{Gadget|Elasticity Suspenders}}
}}

== Case ==
[[Image:Movie 20 story images.jpg‎|thumb|left|180px|Images from the movie site that accompany the story text.]]
=== Situation ===
Mysterious assassinations have been happening around the world. The suspect is a spy accessing classified files. In Japan, a spy breaks into police headquarters and accesses secret files on spies planted in the [[Black Organization]] by many intelligence agencies: the English [[wikipedia:_Secret_Intelligence_Service|MI6]], the Canadian [[wikipedia:_Canadian_Security_Intelligence_Service|CSIS]], the German [[wikipedia:_Federal_Intelligence_Service_(Germany)|BND]], and the American [[Central Intelligence Agency|CIA]] and [[Federal Bureau of Investigation|FBI]]. Before this spy can steal the files, [[Rei Furuya]] arrives with a cadre of his [[Public Security Bureau|secret police officers]]. The spy makes a getaway in a stolen car, but Rei soon catches up in his [[Cars#Rei.27s_Mazda_RX-7|Mazda FD RX-7]]. The two jockey for position on the highway and are about to cause a huge wreck. Before they can crash, [[Shuichi Akai]] snipes the spy's car from the hood of [[Cars#Akai.27s_Ford_Mustang|his red and white striped Ford Mustang]]. The spy's car tumbles off the highway and explodes.

The next day, [[Conan Edogawa|Conan]], [[Hiroshi Agasa|Professor Agasa]], [[Ai Haibara|Haibara]], and the [[Detective Boys]] meet up at the newly renovated "Tohto Aquarium". Under the centerpiece of the park, a massive ferris wheel, they find an injured woman with "odd eyes" ([[wikipedia:_heterochromia_iridum|heterochromia]]). The woman is suffering memory loss, she doesn't know her own name and even her cellphone is broken. Conan and his friends decide to stay together with her and help her to recover her memory. Unknown to Conan and his friends, [[Vermouth]] had been lurking nearby with a silenced pistol and had overheard everything. She pulls back and contacts her comrades: "It's as planned, [[Gin]]." The woman in question is in fact a new member of the Black Organization.

{{InfoBox Crime
| crime = Murder
| image = Movie20_Case1.jpg
| location = [[wikipedia:London|London]]
| victim = [[List of notable case characters#Stout|Stout]]
| cause-death = Gunshot wound to the temple (right)
| suspects = [[Korn]]
| suspects-label = Culprit
| description =
}}
{{InfoBox Crime
| crime = Murder
| image = Movie20_Case2.jpg
| location = [[wikipedia:_CN_Tower|CN Tower]] ([[wikipedia:Toronto|Toronto]])
| victim = [[List of notable case characters#Aquavit|Aquavit]]
| cause-death = Gunshot wound to the chest
| suspects = [[Chianti]]
| suspects-label = Culprit
| description =
}}
{{InfoBox Crime
| crime = Murder
| image = Movie20_Case3.jpg
| location = [[wikipedia:Berlin|Berlin]]
| victim = [[List of notable case characters#Riesling|Riesling]]
| cause-death = Gunshot wound
| suspects = [[Gin]]
| suspects-label = Culprit
| description =
}}

=== People ===
{{BeginBox}}
{{People|[[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]]|M20 odd eyes woman.jpg|
* Has severe amnesia
* [[wikipedia:_Heterochromia_iridum|Heterochromaic eyes]]
* Member of the [[Black Organization]]<ref name=conan-movie/>}}
{{People|[[List of notable case characters#Riesling|Riesling]]|Riesling.jpg|
* German [[wikipedia:_Federal_Intelligence_Service_(Germany)|BND]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization
* Victim (gunshot)}}
{{People|[[List of notable case characters#Stout|Stout]]|Stout.jpg|
* English [[wikipedia:_Secret_Intelligence_Service|MI6]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization
* Victim (gunshot)}}
{{People|[[List of notable case characters#Aquavit|Aquavit]]|Aquavit.jpg|
* Canadian [[wikipedia:_Canadian_Security_Intelligence_Service|CSIS]] spy infiltrated the Black Organization
* Victim (gunshot)}}
{{people|[[Yuya Kazami]]|Yuya Kazami.jpg|
* Officer of the Japanese [[Public Security Bureau|PSB]]<ref name="CharAmuroInterview" />
* Rei's direct subordinate<ref name="CharAmuroInterview" />}}
{{EndBox}}

=== Resolution ===
<spoiler>
</spoiler>
{{clear}}

== Music ==
{{nihongo|2=世界はあなたの色になる|3=[[Sekai wa Anata no Iro ni Naru]]|4="The World Will Become Your Color"}}, by [[B'z]].

== Preview and Teaser information ==
{| style="float:left;"
|-
| style="vertical-align: top"|[[File:Movie 20 Akai sniping.jpg‎|thumb|right|200px|[[Shuichi Akai]] sniping from the hood of [[vehicles in Detective Conan#Akai's Ford Mustang|his red Mustang]].]]

| style="vertical-align: top"|

| style="vertical-align: top"|

| style="vertical-align: top"|[[File:Movie 20 Odd Eyes Character.jpg|160px|thumb|right|[[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]] will be voiced by [[Yuki Amami]].<ref>[http://twitter.com/conan_movie/status/696787540318117889 Official Conan Movie twitter]</ref>]]

| style="vertical-align: top"|[[File:Movie 20 Odd Eyes Character 90 sec trailer.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Curaçao appeared in a new 90 second trailer with yet another new set of eyes.]]

| style="vertical-align: top"|[[File:Movie 20 Characters.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Characters Pick Up.]]
|}
{{clear}}
The post-credits teaser at the end of movie 19, [[Sunflowers of Inferno]], features a glass of alcohol at a bar, with [[Gin]]'s voice saying: "[[Hidemi Hondou|Kir]], [[Rei Furuya|Bourbon]]... Don't tell me?"<ref>[http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTM2Mzk4MTU4OA==.html Detective Conan - Movie 20 - Teaser]</ref>

;[[Super Digest Books]]:
70+ 
Q57: Won't Aoyama-sensei be the executive director of the 20th anniversary movie? 
A: I won't be, even though I want to. I can't stop the serialization. 


;[[Postcards]] and [[Animal Crossing promotional hints]]:
[[File:Akai movie sketch.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Gosho Aoyama drew sketches of Akai for the movie]]
* Gin will appear in next year's movie. (postcard 2015)
* Amuro will appear in next year's movie. (postcard 2015)
* 2015-05-08: The next movie will be Amuro vs Akai.
* 2015-09-06: Drew a poster with Amuro and Akai.
* 2015-09-21: It's Boxing vs. Jeet Kune Do.
* 2015-10-02: [[Rum]] will be in the next movie.
* 2015-10-24: Akai's car in the movie is a Mustang.
* 2015-11-11: FD vs. Mustang! Can't wait to see it~
* 2015-11-19: The title is ◯○◯koku no ◯◯◯◯◯ (revealed to be "Junkoku no Naitomea")
* 2015-12-05: There won't be horse-riding in the movie.
* 2015-12-11: For now, I've drawn Akai's key frame.
* The Rum that appears in the movie is the real deal, of course lol (postcard 2016)
[[File:Woman with Amnesia movie sketch.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Gosho Aoyama drew sketches of [[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]] for the movie]]
* 2016-02-24: Of course I drew the key frame for Amuro♪
* 2016-03-02: The illustration I drew has 3 handsomes on it!
* 2016-03-13: The third person makes their debut in the movie!
* 2016-03-20: Scotch? Date? Kuroda? No.
* 2016-03-25: Everyone knows that the 3rd person in the poster...
* 2016-03-25: ...won't be overshadowed by Akai and Amuro....
* 2016-03-25: ...What a handsome! I got a surprise when I was in the theater...
* 2016-03-25: ...Those who go to the private screening: don't tell others!
* 2016-03-28: There will soon be private screening! Exiting!

;Let's Talk with [[Gosho Aoyama|Gosho Aoyama-sensei]] Day 2016:
* SIS ([[wikipedia:_Secret_Intelligence_Service|MI6]]) may appear.
{{clear}}

== Trivia ==
[[File:MV-22_Osprey_Line_Drawing.svg|thumb|Line drawing of a V-22 Osprey (MV-22)]]
* This is the first movie to feature [[Central Intelligence Agency|CIA]] agent [[Hidemi Hondou]], as well as [[Public Security Bureau]] agent [[Rei Furuya]].
* The helicopter seen at the movie's climax is a [[wikipedia:_Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey|Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey]]. This American military aircraft is unique for having tiltrotors: rotors which move between a vertical position like a helicopter and a horizontal position like a turboprop plane. The V-22 can take off vertically and hover, but also cruise long range at high speed. At the time this film was released, no V-22 Ospreys have been delivered to non-US countries, although Japan's parliament approved a defense budget in January 2015 with funding for five V-22s which will be delivered by 2018. Between 2012 and 2014, between 6 and 24 of the Marine Variant MV-22 Ospreys were deployed at American Marine Corps Air Station Futenma in Okinawa. Incidentally the V-22 has acquired notoriety for crashing, which prompted protests by Okinawans who doubted its airworthiness.
:There are two routes the [[Black Organization]] might have used to obtain a V-22. One is to steal one from an American military base in Japan. The other is to have secretly infiltrated a military base in the United States where damaged, defective, or decommissioned V-22s are stored, disassembled one (or parts of several), and removed it while creating a false paper trail that it had been decommissioned and cannibalized for parts.
* Curaçao is a constituent country of the [[wikipedia:Netherlands|Netherlands]], near the coast of [[wikipedia:Venezuela|Venezuela]]. It is also the namesake for alcoholic beverages made of Laraha Citrus, a kind of orange. Curaçao is one of few codenamed members of the Organization who do not follow the pattern of codenaming female agent after wine-based alcoholic beverages.
{{clear}}

== Gallery ==
{{main gallery}}
<gallery perrow="5" widths="185px">
File:M20 Rei.jpg|[[Rei Furuya]] driving
File:M20 Shu.jpg|[[Shuichi Akai]] sniping
File:M20 GV.jpg|[[Vodka]] and [[Gin]] with guns
File:M20 Akai vs Amuro.jpg|Shuichi vs. Rei
File:M20 Rei and Hidemi.png|Rei and [[Hidemi Hondou]] prisoners of Gin
File:M20 Gin with a gun.jpg|Gin with a gun
File:M20 Vermouth.jpg|[[Vermouth]] after an explosion
File:M20 the DB and the woman.jpg|The [[Detective Boys]] play with [[List of notable case characters#Curaçao|Curaçao]]
</gallery>

== See also ==
* [[Movies]]
* [[The Shadow Sneaking Up on Amuro]]
* [[Black Organization]]
* [[Federal Bureau of Investigation]]
* [[Central Intelligence Agency]]
* [[Public Security Bureau]]

{{Movies}}
{{Black Organization}}
{{Federal Bureau of Investigation}}
{{Public Security Bureau}}

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== References ==
<references />

[[de:Film 20]]

Talk:The Boss of the Black Organization

2016-05-15T07:00:28Z

82.54.234.90: /* Wanted images */

== Changing name to "The Boss of the Black Organization" from "Anokata" ==
I've been thinking about the page name since I am planning to feature this article, and I think it would make more sense to rename this page "The Boss of the Black Organization". It's a bit long (redirects will help), but it is more descriptive than "ano kata". "The Boss of the Black Organization" can't be mistaken for the Magic Kaito Organization's boss who is also called "ano kata" or "the boss". Someone who doesn't know much about the series or doesn't remember the Japanese term will have an easier time searching for "the boss". Across the rest of the wiki, using the brief "the Boss" instead of "The Boss of the Black Organization" makes the most sense, unless referring to someone speaking about the boss and using "ano kata" is more appropriate.

If you or someone else objects to the renaming, '''you are free to change it back and start a discussion about it here''' per Wikipedia style [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold|BOLD]] protocol. I'm doing it this way because usually these talk page discussions rarely get anything done or generate much attention unless something is changed that people care about. Some discussions have been hanging for months to years without decisions one way or the other. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:11, 3 February 2013 (PST)

== Phone number vs mail address ==

In researching an IP's edit, I looked up the official term used. In File 475 page 3 middle left panel and page 4 top panel, Conan used the term: "ボスのメールアドレス" (Literally boss's mail address). I'm not sure whether this should be translated as phone number or email address because it looks like a phone number rather than an email and various Conan promotionals in Japan advertised calling a phone number like you were calling the boss. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 08:19, 12 December 2014 (CET)
:I was the IP who did the edit, and I think we have enough proof to say it is an e-mail address rather than a phone number (in Japan each mobile phone have an e-mail address associated to it, and they use e-mail rather than SMS to send messages).
* In file 434 Vermouth receives an e-mail from the boss and replies with another '''e-mail''', not by calling him/her (even though she whispers "Ok, boss" after reading the message): this is the first time Conan hears Nanatsu no Ko, even though he doesn't recognize it right away; Conan even tells Vermouth that if it will look like his heart stopped then the '''address''' to which she just sent the '''e-mail''' will be found out.
* In file 439 Conan thinks that if he had that '''address''' he could find out the boss' identity.
* In file 470 Conan confirms that Vermouth sent an '''e-email''', and Agasa wonders if the numbers dialed are familiar to Conan because they contain letters often used by Conan in his messages: you can't use letters in phone numbers but you can in '''e-mail'''; it's true that Conan here search for the telephone numbering plan of Tottori, but only because he found out that the sound of the first four numbers used to make a phone call to someone who lives in Tottori (0858) is similar to the beginning of the sound of the boss' '''e-mail address''' (which, as we find later, starts with #969, whose sound is similar to 0858).
* In file 475 Conan confirms again that what Vermouth sent was an '''e-email''' and discovers that #969#6261 is the boss' '''e-mail address'''. A note by Gosho Aoyama says that in real life '''e-mail addresses''' can't have "#", but he decided that in the Conanverse they can to avoid pranks; of course if this was a phone number he would have done things differently, using a real telephone numbering plan (like 0858 for Tottori) and only using symbols that can't be used in the second part of the number to avoid pranks, but since '''e-mail addresses''' are (unlike phone numbers) totally unrelated from from where you live it doesn't matter where the impossible symbols are positioned in the number. Still in file 475, Agasa asks Conan if he sent an '''e-mail''' to the boss, which he denies; he sais that he wants Takagi to investigate that '''address''', while Ai thinks the '''address''' is like Pandora's box.
* In file 479, Conan is about to write an '''e-mail''': we can read the '''address''' (#969#6261, which by mistake became #696#6261 in the anime) but he hasn't started yet writing it, and he decides not to do so.
* In file 499, Conan sees Yoko calling someone, and thinks of the fact that now everytime he sees someone using a cell phone he is reminded of Vermouth and the boss' '''e-mail address''', and also thinks of Ai saying the '''address''' is like Pandora's box. At the end of that file and the beginning of file 500 Conan hears Rena dialing Nanatsu no Ko and then she is called by Gin: she informs Gin that she only had a small problem which she just informed Anokata '''via e-mail'''. Still in file 500, Ai asks Conan if he is sure that Rena is from the BO, and Conan answers that she sent an '''e-mail''' to their boss and then received a phone call from Gin.
* In file 595, Ran says Esuke told her he heard someone (Kusuda) dial an '''e-email address''' that sounded like Nanatsu no Ko. Eisuke mistook Kusuda for a colleague of his father because Ethan was a mole inside the BO, and thus sent various '''e-mail''' to an '''address''' that sounded like Nanatsu no Ko; Eisuke asked what was this sound, and Ethan answered he was '''sending an e-mail''' to "his boss" (the BO boss).
* In file 605 James says that it is better if Eisuke gets into the witness protection program since he knows the BO boss' '''mail address'''. --[[Special:Contributions/87.8.35.181|87.8.35.181]] 12:11, 12 December 2014 (CET)

::I think the problem I'm hearing from others I asked at the DCTP spoiler box is that the argument it is an email overly relies on the literal translation rather than looking at how the number is actually being used.
::{{cquote|@Chek: The problem with calling it an e-mail address is that, even in Japan, e-mail addresses take the form of something@something.sth, like the rest of the world, while the boss' address is just numbers (with the # just there to ensure it's not real). If we then add in the fact that, as jimmy said, '''text messages (via phone) are called 'mail' in Japan''', I'd call the number we have a phone number. Calling it an e-mail address certainly makes little sense.|Fujiwara in the spoiler cbox}}
::The best evidence about how the address is actually being used suggests that it is a phone number that is being used for texting. You can't dial an email with a 9 digit keypad to make the nanatsu no ko sound (no .s or @s). Nor do I think it is a coincidence that the length of the number is the exact length of a Japanese phone number (9 digits for a geographic number), and has no @s. Promotional offers in Japan related to Conan (I recall one for M13) had people dial the boss's phone number to hear a pre-recorded message - which suggests that it is a phone number not an email. Also keep in mind the cellphone arc took place way back in 2003/2004, which was pretty early in the smartphone tech cycle. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 19:06, 12 December 2014 (CET)
:::The Italian manga sometimes uses "indirizzo di posta elettronica" ("e-mail address"), while other times uses "SMS", and I believe the former is correct and the latter is an imprecision; on the other hand, "numero di telefono" ("phone number") is never used. The [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultura_dei_telefoni_cellulari_in_Giappone Italian Wikipedia article about phones in Japan], which seems more complete on this point compared to the English Wikipedia, says (my translation) "''One of the main features of Japanese cell phones is the constant use of e-mail on the consumer's part, to the detriment of SMS and in some cases even of the classic calls, especially in public places. An e-mail address is associated with each cell phone at the time of subscription to a telephone company: this operation requires a certificate of residence, an account in a Japanese bank or with a local credit card, an employment contract or the presence of a warrantor of Japanese nationality, other the the reguar passport; these requirement are similar to what is required for the stipulation of a lease. The concept of e-mail in Japan is mainly associated with cell phones, to the point that some young Japanese ignore the possibility of sending e-mail through a PC''". So, we can conclude that Japanese use e-mail like we use SMS (explaining why some manga translations use "SMS" instead of "e-mail") but the phone number and the mail address are actually two different numbers: for example in file 340 Ran sends an e-mail to Shinichi using her cell phone, but in file 426 she complains about not having Shinichi's phone number because when he calls her he hides his number; she will not get his number until file 483. According to Agasa, letters can be used for e-mail addresses in Japan, but this doesn't prevent numbers to be used, I think. Plus, I don't see how Gosho could have intended #969#6261 to be a phone number, since phone numbers start with a telephone numbering plan, which "#969" is not: one thing is to start a number with a real numbering plan and then using impossible symbols like "#" to avoid pranks, another thing is using a non-existent numbering plan. You said "Nor do I think it is a coincidence that the length of the number is the exact length of a Japanese phone number (9 digits for a geographic number)", but if this is the case then Conan should have known right away that the number has 9 digits, while in file 470 he tells Agasa that the number has 8 or 9 digits. In conclusion, I think that if we write that #969#6261 is the boss' phone number we will confuse the reader, because that number has only been used to send messages to the boss, not to call him/her, and this is an important point: if Vermouth called the boss instead of sending a message in file 434, then Conan would have heard the boss' voice and would know al least his/her gender. --[[Special:Contributions/87.8.52.110|87.8.52.110]] 20:06, 12 December 2014 (CET)

* I created some forum topics for visibility, I am hoping some Japanese speakers will weigh in. I will keep your half in the first post updated as you see fit. Just send me a notification on my talk page or at the forums if you want something changed or more stuff added or deleted. I pretty much just copied what you wrote directly. [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/5521-is-the-bosss-number-a-phone-number-or-an-email-address/ DCW] [http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12601 DCTP] [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 02:06, 13 December 2014 (CET)
:I hope someone can help us clarify the question then. --[[Special:Contributions/87.9.52.29|87.9.52.29]] 17:54, 13 December 2014 (CET)

== Wanted images ==

An IP is looking for these images if you have them handy:
* Conan imagines the boss as a big [["The Criminal"|criminal silhouette]] in [[Volume 46#Stradivarius Murder Case|file 470]].
* Haibara imagines her former unknown boss as a criminal silhouette in [http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D580/sign=8c9d069bf403918fd7d13dc2613c264b/8208b3de9c82d158230508ca830a19d8bd3e42c3.jpg special manga].
* Conan imagines the boss as a normal criminal silhouette in [[episode 398]], but not in [[Volume 46#Suspicious Cellphone Case|file 479]].

[[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 15:14, 22 October 2015 (CEST)

[[Image:BossBlackshadow3.jpg|x175px|thumb|left|Haibara imagines her former unknown boss as a normal criminal silhouette in the [[Detective Conan Special|special manga]] ([[Special Volume 26|volume 26]]).]]
:Kicked this image off the page because we have enough images of the boss of the Black Organization as it is. Galleries are meant to be informative to prevent bloat, not a laundry list of every picture of the character. That means each picture needs to tell a different story from the last. We already have four separate, highly similar, shadowmen boss pictures. We really only need one. We certainly don't need five all showing the same thing, a scary no-detail guy looming. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 04:39, 6 March 2016 (CET)
::But the character design from special manga is very different from the original manga. For example, the criminal silhouettes have always a very demoniac expression. Then this image for the unknown Boss could to be edit. --[[Special:Contributions/79.24.235.149|79.24.235.149]] 10:57, 12 May 2016 (CEST)
:::I've seen the special manga boss images before. They look similar to all the other depictions: a generically menacing shadow dude. As I said before "Galleries are meant to be informative to prevent bloat, not a laundry list of every picture of the character." The addition of yet another shadowperson with a slightly different expression will not add new information to the article that isn't already shown. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 01:48, 15 May 2016 (CEST)
::::Then, what do you think to edit it in "Special Manga: Volume 26", which specifies his/her background? --[[Special:Contributions/79.24.235.149|79.24.235.149]] 08:57, 15 May 2016 (CEST)

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== Changing name to "The Boss of the Black Organization" from "Anokata" ==
I've been thinking about the page name since I am planning to feature this article, and I think it would make more sense to rename this page "The Boss of the Black Organization". It's a bit long (redirects will help), but it is more descriptive than "ano kata". "The Boss of the Black Organization" can't be mistaken for the Magic Kaito Organization's boss who is also called "ano kata" or "the boss". Someone who doesn't know much about the series or doesn't remember the Japanese term will have an easier time searching for "the boss". Across the rest of the wiki, using the brief "the Boss" instead of "The Boss of the Black Organization" makes the most sense, unless referring to someone speaking about the boss and using "ano kata" is more appropriate.

If you or someone else objects to the renaming, '''you are free to change it back and start a discussion about it here''' per Wikipedia style [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold|BOLD]] protocol. I'm doing it this way because usually these talk page discussions rarely get anything done or generate much attention unless something is changed that people care about. Some discussions have been hanging for months to years without decisions one way or the other. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 17:11, 3 February 2013 (PST)

== Phone number vs mail address ==

In researching an IP's edit, I looked up the official term used. In File 475 page 3 middle left panel and page 4 top panel, Conan used the term: "ボスのメールアドレス" (Literally boss's mail address). I'm not sure whether this should be translated as phone number or email address because it looks like a phone number rather than an email and various Conan promotionals in Japan advertised calling a phone number like you were calling the boss. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 08:19, 12 December 2014 (CET)
:I was the IP who did the edit, and I think we have enough proof to say it is an e-mail address rather than a phone number (in Japan each mobile phone have an e-mail address associated to it, and they use e-mail rather than SMS to send messages).
* In file 434 Vermouth receives an e-mail from the boss and replies with another '''e-mail''', not by calling him/her (even though she whispers "Ok, boss" after reading the message): this is the first time Conan hears Nanatsu no Ko, even though he doesn't recognize it right away; Conan even tells Vermouth that if it will look like his heart stopped then the '''address''' to which she just sent the '''e-mail''' will be found out.
* In file 439 Conan thinks that if he had that '''address''' he could find out the boss' identity.
* In file 470 Conan confirms that Vermouth sent an '''e-email''', and Agasa wonders if the numbers dialed are familiar to Conan because they contain letters often used by Conan in his messages: you can't use letters in phone numbers but you can in '''e-mail'''; it's true that Conan here search for the telephone numbering plan of Tottori, but only because he found out that the sound of the first four numbers used to make a phone call to someone who lives in Tottori (0858) is similar to the beginning of the sound of the boss' '''e-mail address''' (which, as we find later, starts with #969, whose sound is similar to 0858).
* In file 475 Conan confirms again that what Vermouth sent was an '''e-email''' and discovers that #969#6261 is the boss' '''e-mail address'''. A note by Gosho Aoyama says that in real life '''e-mail addresses''' can't have "#", but he decided that in the Conanverse they can to avoid pranks; of course if this was a phone number he would have done things differently, using a real telephone numbering plan (like 0858 for Tottori) and only using symbols that can't be used in the second part of the number to avoid pranks, but since '''e-mail addresses''' are (unlike phone numbers) totally unrelated from from where you live it doesn't matter where the impossible symbols are positioned in the number. Still in file 475, Agasa asks Conan if he sent an '''e-mail''' to the boss, which he denies; he sais that he wants Takagi to investigate that '''address''', while Ai thinks the '''address''' is like Pandora's box.
* In file 479, Conan is about to write an '''e-mail''': we can read the '''address''' (#969#6261, which by mistake became #696#6261 in the anime) but he hasn't started yet writing it, and he decides not to do so.
* In file 499, Conan sees Yoko calling someone, and thinks of the fact that now everytime he sees someone using a cell phone he is reminded of Vermouth and the boss' '''e-mail address''', and also thinks of Ai saying the '''address''' is like Pandora's box. At the end of that file and the beginning of file 500 Conan hears Rena dialing Nanatsu no Ko and then she is called by Gin: she informs Gin that she only had a small problem which she just informed Anokata '''via e-mail'''. Still in file 500, Ai asks Conan if he is sure that Rena is from the BO, and Conan answers that she sent an '''e-mail''' to their boss and then received a phone call from Gin.
* In file 595, Ran says Esuke told her he heard someone (Kusuda) dial an '''e-email address''' that sounded like Nanatsu no Ko. Eisuke mistook Kusuda for a colleague of his father because Ethan was a mole inside the BO, and thus sent various '''e-mail''' to an '''address''' that sounded like Nanatsu no Ko; Eisuke asked what was this sound, and Ethan answered he was '''sending an e-mail''' to "his boss" (the BO boss).
* In file 605 James says that it is better if Eisuke gets into the witness protection program since he knows the BO boss' '''mail address'''. --[[Special:Contributions/87.8.35.181|87.8.35.181]] 12:11, 12 December 2014 (CET)

::I think the problem I'm hearing from others I asked at the DCTP spoiler box is that the argument it is an email overly relies on the literal translation rather than looking at how the number is actually being used.
::{{cquote|@Chek: The problem with calling it an e-mail address is that, even in Japan, e-mail addresses take the form of something@something.sth, like the rest of the world, while the boss' address is just numbers (with the # just there to ensure it's not real). If we then add in the fact that, as jimmy said, '''text messages (via phone) are called 'mail' in Japan''', I'd call the number we have a phone number. Calling it an e-mail address certainly makes little sense.|Fujiwara in the spoiler cbox}}
::The best evidence about how the address is actually being used suggests that it is a phone number that is being used for texting. You can't dial an email with a 9 digit keypad to make the nanatsu no ko sound (no .s or @s). Nor do I think it is a coincidence that the length of the number is the exact length of a Japanese phone number (9 digits for a geographic number), and has no @s. Promotional offers in Japan related to Conan (I recall one for M13) had people dial the boss's phone number to hear a pre-recorded message - which suggests that it is a phone number not an email. Also keep in mind the cellphone arc took place way back in 2003/2004, which was pretty early in the smartphone tech cycle. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 19:06, 12 December 2014 (CET)
:::The Italian manga sometimes uses "indirizzo di posta elettronica" ("e-mail address"), while other times uses "SMS", and I believe the former is correct and the latter is an imprecision; on the other hand, "numero di telefono" ("phone number") is never used. The [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultura_dei_telefoni_cellulari_in_Giappone Italian Wikipedia article about phones in Japan], which seems more complete on this point compared to the English Wikipedia, says (my translation) "''One of the main features of Japanese cell phones is the constant use of e-mail on the consumer's part, to the detriment of SMS and in some cases even of the classic calls, especially in public places. An e-mail address is associated with each cell phone at the time of subscription to a telephone company: this operation requires a certificate of residence, an account in a Japanese bank or with a local credit card, an employment contract or the presence of a warrantor of Japanese nationality, other the the reguar passport; these requirement are similar to what is required for the stipulation of a lease. The concept of e-mail in Japan is mainly associated with cell phones, to the point that some young Japanese ignore the possibility of sending e-mail through a PC''". So, we can conclude that Japanese use e-mail like we use SMS (explaining why some manga translations use "SMS" instead of "e-mail") but the phone number and the mail address are actually two different numbers: for example in file 340 Ran sends an e-mail to Shinichi using her cell phone, but in file 426 she complains about not having Shinichi's phone number because when he calls her he hides his number; she will not get his number until file 483. According to Agasa, letters can be used for e-mail addresses in Japan, but this doesn't prevent numbers to be used, I think. Plus, I don't see how Gosho could have intended #969#6261 to be a phone number, since phone numbers start with a telephone numbering plan, which "#969" is not: one thing is to start a number with a real numbering plan and then using impossible symbols like "#" to avoid pranks, another thing is using a non-existent numbering plan. You said "Nor do I think it is a coincidence that the length of the number is the exact length of a Japanese phone number (9 digits for a geographic number)", but if this is the case then Conan should have known right away that the number has 9 digits, while in file 470 he tells Agasa that the number has 8 or 9 digits. In conclusion, I think that if we write that #969#6261 is the boss' phone number we will confuse the reader, because that number has only been used to send messages to the boss, not to call him/her, and this is an important point: if Vermouth called the boss instead of sending a message in file 434, then Conan would have heard the boss' voice and would know al least his/her gender. --[[Special:Contributions/87.8.52.110|87.8.52.110]] 20:06, 12 December 2014 (CET)

* I created some forum topics for visibility, I am hoping some Japanese speakers will weigh in. I will keep your half in the first post updated as you see fit. Just send me a notification on my talk page or at the forums if you want something changed or more stuff added or deleted. I pretty much just copied what you wrote directly. [http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/forum/topic/5521-is-the-bosss-number-a-phone-number-or-an-email-address/ DCW] [http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12601 DCTP] [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 02:06, 13 December 2014 (CET)
:I hope someone can help us clarify the question then. --[[Special:Contributions/87.9.52.29|87.9.52.29]] 17:54, 13 December 2014 (CET)

== Wanted images ==

An IP is looking for these images if you have them handy:
* Conan imagines the boss as a big [["The Criminal"|criminal silhouette]] in [[Volume 46#Stradivarius Murder Case|file 470]].
* Haibara imagines her former unknown boss as a criminal silhouette in [http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D580/sign=8c9d069bf403918fd7d13dc2613c264b/8208b3de9c82d158230508ca830a19d8bd3e42c3.jpg special manga].
* Conan imagines the boss as a normal criminal silhouette in [[episode 398]], but not in [[Volume 46#Suspicious Cellphone Case|file 479]].

[[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 15:14, 22 October 2015 (CEST)

[[Image:BossBlackshadow3.jpg|x175px|thumb|left|Haibara imagines her former unknown boss as a normal criminal silhouette in the [[Detective Conan Special|special manga]] ([[Special Volume 26|volume 26]]).]]
:Kicked this image off the page because we have enough images of the boss of the Black Organization as it is. Galleries are meant to be informative to prevent bloat, not a laundry list of every picture of the character. That means each picture needs to tell a different story from the last. We already have four separate, highly similar, shadowmen boss pictures. We really only need one. We certainly don't need five all showing the same thing, a scary no-detail guy looming. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 04:39, 6 March 2016 (CET)
::But the character design from special manga is very different from the original manga. For example, the criminal silhouettes have always a very demoniac expression. Then this image for the unknown Boss could to be edit. --[[Special:Contributions/79.24.235.149|79.24.235.149]] 10:57, 12 May 2016 (CEST)
:::I've seen the special manga boss images before. They look similar to all the other depictions: a generically menacing shadow dude. As I said before "Galleries are meant to be informative to prevent bloat, not a laundry list of every picture of the character." The addition of yet another shadowperson with a slightly different expression will not add new information to the article that isn't already shown. [[User:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''Chekhov MacGuffin''']] [[User talk:Chekhov MacGuffin|'''talk''']] 01:48, 15 May 2016 (CEST)
::::Then, what do you think to edit it in "Special Manga: Volume 26"? --[[Special:Contributions/79.24.235.149|79.24.235.149]] 08:57, 15 May 2016 (CEST)