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Conan and shinchi as two different people

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what anime episode or manga file do we see ran or someone else thinking that conan and shinchi are two different people

we see a scene where someone is thinking or sequence that conan meets shinchi and the two are different and meet each other would like to know

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During the Desperate Revival arc, Shinichi was in his original form while "Conan" was Ai In disguise. Although not canon, there was at least one occasion in the movies where Conan was in his small form while "Shinichi" was Kaito Kid in disguise.

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