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[SPOILER DISCUSSION] File 1,061–File 1,06X: The FBI Serial Murders

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The first case of the triple digit volume era!

in a technical sense, it was last case... but that one began in Volume 99 and ended in Volume 100, whereas this one will begin in Volume 100

 

Spoiler pics are now out:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/6994241163

 

And here are translations, courtesy of Mera and Spimer (with additional props to Mycroft and BK 201):

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Overall Summary (Mera)

"At the beginning of the chapter, Gin and Vodka found a foreigner, Vodka gave the foreigner a FBI ID to check, and then we see the muzzle of Gin gun and SHOT, that happened while Conan, Haibara and DB just passed by

Conan hurried to check, and he used his glasses to zoom, and he saw Vodka on a roof (upstairs) and the same classic BO crew, then Conan go back to Kudo's home to tell the FBI about what he saw"

As per leaks, James Black is in Conan's house (Kudo's house)

 

Panel by Panel translations (Spimer)

Pic 1:

Mitsuhiko: Whoa!

Mitsuhiko: It seems they found two today, too...

Mitsuhiko: Two dead unidentified foreigners...

 

Pic 2:

Ayumi: It feels scary...

Genta: Yeah... There were also two dead yesterday, right?

Mitsuhiko: But I wonder why more unidentified people died today, too?

 

Pic 3:

Man: I...

Man: So you finally came...

 

Pic 4:

Vodka: Sorry... 

Vodka: But Tony ain't coming anymore...

Man: Shit!

 

Pic 5:

Gin: Do you intend to confess...

Gin: Where your hideout is at?

Gin: I see. You don't, huh?

Gin: Then we don't need you anymore...

 

Pic 6:

Ayumi (text obscured): A huge sound!

 

Pic 7:

Conan: Using the glasses' telescope function...

 

Pic 8:

Vodka: Sheesh!

Vodka: Guess he didn't want to end up like his pal, but...

Gin: Did he think he could fly?

 

Pic 9:

Genta: Why can't we see it?

Ayumi: I wanna see, too!

Mitsuhiko: That's unfair, Conan-kun!

Haibara: Just do as he says!

Chianti: A kid! A kid wearing a hoodie is coming close to the body!

Korn: I can shoot...

Chianti: Do we do it?

 

Pic 10:

Kir: There's 3 more onlookers!

Man (right): Whoa! Someone's dead!?

Woman: No way!

Man (left): Let's call the police for now!

 

Pic 11:

Conan: Shit!

Conan: What's going on!?

Conan: Akai-san's line is busy the whole time...

Conan: And neither Mom or Dad answer the phone either!!

 

Pic 12:

Conan: Don't tell me that they...

Conan: Are in my house!?

Conan: I hear unfamiliar voices!

 

Pic 13:

Jodie: Oh, hi, Cool Kid!

Jodie: You came as well?

 

Pic 14:

James: It all began 3 days ago...

James: An investigator named Aaron went missing while trailing one of the organization members and the next day his body was found... And both two days ago and yesterday and today the organization ambushed meeting places...

Jodie: We use a cipher for the meetings, but...

Jodie: So we think that maybe Aaron may have confessed how to decode the cipher...

Jodie: Hence why we're hiding here, in the Kudō house, for now!

 

Pic 15:

Akai: Knowing them, rather than demanding how to decipher the ciphers, they would demand the hotel's location...

Akai: If they want to get rid of us FBI in one shot, it's more logical to attack their base of operations...

Camel: Y-you're right...

James: That asides, have Jim and Cheng, who volunteered to go to the cipher's meeting place, contacted you yet?

Jodie: Not yet...

Conan: As for that Agent Jim...

 

Pic 16:

Conan: He just fell from an abandoned building and died...

Conan: Vodka was in the rooftop so he might have been pushed out of it, but...

 

Pic 17:

All: HUH!?

Conan: I happened to be at scene... So I came to tell Akai-san about that!

James: But if they don't know how to decode those complicated ciphers...

James: How could they ambush us?

Conan: Wouldn't they have hacked into the cipher emails and simply decoded them?

 

Pic 18:

Conan: Because that cipher...

Conan: It contained the meeting address, location, the day and the phone number, so...

 

Pic 19:

Several: Huh?

To be continued in Issue#46

 

Spoiler

Yep, Hidemi/Rena/Kir actually appears and speaks (not a background character shot) for the first time since August 2009 (File 704)!

 

No break next week—we can expect 1,062 spoilers at this time next week.

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So this chapter has raised a lot of questions. 

  • How did BO get hold of the future meeting infos ?
    (well hacking could be an answer, but if it's a sms/mail for FBI's internal discussion it won't simply looks possible to me.)
  • So is there a mole in Japanese Police/FBI who is passing on that info/investigating the FBI agents under the garb of public safety ?
  • Bourbon should be there but as of now we didn't see him. Why ?
  • Is Rum behind this whole operation as the intel provider and the planner ?
  • During the last chapter it was shown that Rum didn't trust Bourbon's info on the Kudos, that's why Vermouth was used instead of Bourbon. So is Bourbon now on Rum's distrust list ?

 

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1,062 spoiler pics now out:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7007357681

 

Here are translations of the pics, courtesy of Spimer:

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Pic 1:

???: Listen to what I have to say...

Chianti: T...

Chianti: This voice, it's...!?

 

Pic 2:

Vodka: They're changing their voice with a machine...

Kir: There's no doubt about it...

Vermouth: The organization's (our) No. 2...

 

Pic 3:

Gin: RUM!

 

Pic 4:

Vermouth: Location is Kadehu 1-4 city parking, in 1 hour's time...

You can get there in less then 30 mins in your car, Chianti...

Chianti: So 10 minutes will be more than enough!

Vermouth: I'll head there with Kir, so...

Vermouth: Gin and Vodka, do as always....

 

Pic 5:

Chianti: (giggles)

Chianti: Those FBI guys are shuddering in fear!

Korn: Just like RUM said...

Chianti: Trying to play a trap on us? It's out of your league!

 

Pic 6:

Akai: Wait, Camel!

Akai: Don't get out yet!

 

Pic 7:

Man: (groans)

Man: (screams)

 

Pic 8:

Gin: The target is fleeing towards the south...

Conan: (cut off)

Conan: Lure out the organization... (cut off)

 

Pic 9:

Yusaku: Given how they refer to you as a teacher, did you work as a teacher before?

Jodie: Yes... As an English teacher at Teitan High School...

 

Pic 10:

Yusaku: Is it an elementary school teacher?

Jodie: Y-yes, one of my friends is an elementary school teacher named Shibuya Natsuko...

 

Pic 11:

Yusaku: Did she teach you many things?

Jodie: Yes... Apart from Japanese... Kanji, hiragana, relationship between letters... She taught me most of it...

 

Pic 12:

Yusaku: I see..

Conan: So...

Conan: So that was it!?

Note: Offense and defense turn over again... What have the Kudo father and son seen through!?

 

With more spoiler pics come more translations, once again courtesy of Spimer:

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Page 3

Conan: The one at the right, when seen from the front, is the original cipher message...

Conan: And the one to the left is one with the characters horizontally flipped!

Conan: This alone doesn't tell anything, but...

Conan: Even if you flip them, you realize some spots can be read as numbers or Alphabet letters...

Conan: And if you look at this oddly displaced dot...

Conan: You would think that the lower half of the text is flipped!

Conan: So if you take the flipped one...

Conan: And cut off the lower half, including the horizontal bar...

Conan: To then glue it over...

Conan: The original one...

Conan: See!

 

Page 8

Mark: Let me take that role.

Mark: If I do nothing, my brother won't be able to rest in peace!

Black: Ah, so you're Mark, the younger brother of Tony, who was killed...

Black: Acting out of a personal grudge isn't really a good idea, but well...

Camel: Then how about I take the remaining spot?

Camel: If push comes to shove, I can shake them off with my driving skills!

Mark: Camel! Akai: If you're going, you should put on a hat.

Camel: I-I'll pass...

Camel: It doesn't really suit me.

Akai: Did you forget?

Akai: You were the one driving the car that held CIA agent Mizunashi Rena who is currently infiltrating the organization...

Akai: They think you died in the explosion during her retrieval...

Akai: If anyone among them remembers what you look like and they find out that you're still alive, she will most certainly be killed...

Akai: Both you and I are not supposed to exist in this this world...

Akai: Never forget that...

Camel: Got it!

 

And here are a few more details about the events of the file, translation courtesy of Spimer:

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FILE1062
Corner of tricks

The code was made by Jim and Chen, who'd volunteered to go to the meeting spot
They argued that it shouldn't be that easy to solve and they wanted to check (what was going on), so they headed despite many attempts to dissuade them
Akai says that if they'd seen how Conan easily solved it they wouldn't have been so reckless

James suggests to make a new code at once but Camel suggests using it to lure out (the BO)
James would prefer to wait for Yusaku to come back and hear his opinion, but since the deaths of Jim and Chen aren't in the news they must think the FBI doesn't know and it's favorable for them

Jodie thought of a code since she knew how to do it

The BO receives a transmission from RUM, who has changed the voice, as they are being led to the ambush location Jodie made up

Since no-one seems to show up at the location, Chianti and Korn, looking out through their rifles, shoot down the agents on the outside that were on the lookout

Camel and Mark pull out and Mark is hurt when Gin, ambushing them, snipes them, but the car keeps on running away so Gin tells the snipers its location and orders for it to be traced

Yusaku, who'd gone out shopping with Yukiko, comes back and checks the code after he's told about the situation

 

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Apologies for the double post.

 

Spoilers for 1,063 are now out—here is a chapter summary, translations courtesy of Sonokovid-Naughtyteen:

Spoiler

"The whole chapter is a car chase drama.

Gin and the others chase Camel after Camel's arm was injured by Kir.

Then Camel rushed off of the bridge, and fell into the river. Korn spoke to Kir as if he saw Camel somewhere before.

Gin said to the others they should check if Camel died, but Camel had taken Conan's advice into consideration, and dived down to go to another region underwater.

At the end of the chapter, there's a shot of Yusaku and Conan, and Yusaku says, it seems I underestimated this Organization a bit".

 

And here are spoiler pics...

https://imgur.com/a/0xApJ0N

 

...And translations, courtesy of Spimer:

Spoiler

Pic 1
Jodie: The code I wrote let the organization notice it was a trap we'd set up?
Yusaku: Probably so...
Yusaku: You, Agent Jodie, used the Kunrei-shiki system for the code... This system prioritizes the regularity in spelling and is taught at elementary schools...
Yusaku: Your friend, the elementary school teacher, taught you this system, yes?
Jodie: Y-yes... But where did I make a mistake?

Pic 2
Conan: You should've written it as "KADEFU"...
Conan: But you wrote it as "KADEHU"!
Jodie: N-no way!
James: And that's why the organization was suspicious, huh?
James: Felt it was a trap and... (rest is cut off)
Jodie: I'm sorry, it's my fault...
James: You're not the only one at fault!
Akai: We checked the text but didn't notice that, either...
Conan: It's the romaji for "ふ"!
Jodie: Huh?
Conan: Using Kunrei-shiki system, "ふ" is written as "HU", as you did, but...
Conan: But the other codes used the Hebon-shiki system, so it was written as "FU"! Furuito, used in the other code, was spelled "FURUITO", for example!

Pic 3
Camel: I'll leave Mark at Ootaru Street...
Camel: Please retrieve him afterwards!

Pic 4
Gin: Kir, Vermouth! Go to Umibotaru!
Gin: Go there from Chiba and cut his escape!
Vermouth: OK!

Note: Umibotaru is based on the Umihotaru artificial island and underwater tunnel in the Tokyo Bay

 

Pic 5 (Page 11)

(No text; With Vermouth's bike, she and Kir are pursuing Camel's car—they pull in front of him and Kir shoots Camel through the car window)

 

Pic 6 (Page 12)

(Camel's car crashes through the bridge's guardrails—Chianti's Viper and Gin's Porsche come to a halt)


Pic 7 (Page 12)
Chianti: Hah! Have at you, FBI guy!

Vermouth: ......
Korn: Say, that man...
Korn: I feel like I've seen him before...
Kir: Really? Korn...
Korn: Yeah...
Korn: If I see his face again, I'll remember where...

 

Pic 8 (Page 13)
Kir: Oh, yes?
Gin: Talk about interesting...
Gin: Then let's search for that FBI's man corpse at once...

 

Pic 9 (Page 15)
Camel: I-if I do that, I'll run out of air, and...
Conan: Go until you have 20cm left of air!
Akai: I see...
Akai: Do as he says! 20cm!
Camel: Ah, but... I went under 20cm already!

Pic 10 (Page 16)
James: But rescuing him when the organization is surrounding them is going to very hard...
Akai: Yes...
James: We should've indeed listened to Yusaku-san's opinion...
Yusaku: No... Whether I'd noticed about the Hebon-shiki or Kunren-shiki...
Yusaku: But that means they have someone amongst them who saw through that at once...

 

Pic 11 (Page 16)
Yusaku: It'd seem that we...
Yusaku: Have slightly underestimated the organization...

 

4 week break upcoming—we can expect 1,064 spoilers around November 20th.

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5 hours ago, Balthazar Manfredie said:

thanks

i come sometimes 

shame that the monga has fallen from grace

 

The quality, huh?

The longer delays between files is better than Goshō making his health worse, but if you've got issues with the quality, I can't help you with that.

I wish I could just ask Goshō questions about narrative, pacing, etc., so veteran fans (who don't approve of the direction this series has taken this past decade) could at least have an answer as to why he's executed things like this (that isn't a generic answer like, "he's lazy because success and money", because an answer like that just isn't interesting to me).

 

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On 10/21/2020 at 7:42 PM, DCUniverseAficionado said:

 

The quality, huh?

The longer delays between files is better than Goshō making his health worse, but if you've got issues with the quality, I can't help you with that.

I wish I could just ask Goshō questions about narrative, pacing, etc., so veteran fans (who don't approve of the direction this series has taken this past decade) could at least have an answer as to why he's executed things like this (that isn't a generic answer like, "he's lazy because success and money", because an answer like that just isn't interesting to me).

 

What you mean with "narrative and pacing"? Can u give some examples? I agree with you with the direction the series took after Kir introduction.

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1 hour ago, LaJota said:

What you mean with "narrative and pacing"? Can u give some examples? I agree with you with the direction the series took after Kir introduction.

you are a really old member

 

On 10/22/2020 at 12:42 AM, DCUniverseAficionado said:

 

The quality, huh?

The longer delays between files is better than Goshō making his health worse, but if you've got issues with the quality, I can't help you with that.

I wish I could just ask Goshō questions about narrative, pacing, etc., so veteran fans (who don't approve of the direction this series has taken this past decade) could at least have an answer as to why he's executed things like this (that isn't a generic answer like, "he's lazy because success and money", because an answer like that just isn't interesting to me).

 

i wish gosho well, but he dragged this thing for way too long

i give naruto proops for knowing its way

dc should have known as well

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1 hour ago, LaJota said:

What you mean with "narrative and pacing"? Can u give some examples? I agree with you with the direction the series took after Kir introduction.

 

My opinion on the series is nowhere near as harsh as some—after all, I'm still invested in the characters and what's going to happen, even after all this slow pacing.

 

Well, the pacing is self-explanatory. The Bourbon arc took nearly seven years to complete, and it seems the Rum arc is going to beat even it out, in terms of length. Look at Kir—her appearance in this case is her first appearance since August 2009 (File 704).

 

As for the narrative, it suffers due to the pacing—the longer it takes between BO cases, it decreases focus and leaves the readers languishing. What was once a more tight and compact narrative has been diffused and spread out more and more as Shinichi/Conan has found himself facing problems caused by people who should be his allies against the BO (Rei/Bourbon for the Bourbon arc, and Mary for the Rum arc). It leaves fans wondering if Shinichi/Conan and the BO are actually going to face off against each other, and even if there is going to be impact and/or resolution with even these longed-for BO cases.

 

Just now, Balthazar Manfredie said:

i wish gosho well, but he dragged this thing for way too long

i give naruto proops for knowing its way

dc should have known as well

 

Well, once the series is over, at least we can start giving out series read/watch order guides so newcomers can have a better experience without the years of uncertainty and lag.

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1 minute ago, DCUniverseAficionado said:

 

My opinion on the series is nowhere near as harsh as some—after all, I'm still invested in the characters and what's going to happen, even after all this slow pacing.

 

Well, the pacing is self-explanatory. The Bourbon arc took nearly seven years to complete, and it seems the Rum arc is going to beat even it out, in terms of length. Look at Kir—her appearance in this case is her first appearance since August 2009 (File 704).

 

As for the narrative, it suffers due to the pacing—the longer it takes between BO cases, it decreases focus and leaves the readers languishing. What was once a more tight and compact narrative has been diffused and spread out more and more as Shinichi/Conan has found himself facing problems caused by people who should be his allies against the BO (Rei/Bourbon for the Bourbon arc, and Mary for the Rum arc). It leaves fans wondering if Shinichi/Conan and the BO are actually going to face off against each other, and even if there is going to be impact and/or resolution with even these longed-for BO cases.

 

 

Well, once the series is over, at least we can start giving out series read/watch order guides so newcomers can have a better experience without the years of uncertainty and lag.

amen to that

any news when it will end

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46 minutes ago, Balthazar Manfredie said:

amen to that

any news when it will end

 

I'm afraid all I have for you is speculation, so take it as you will (if at all).

 

For the Rum arc to end (relatively) soon—and by that, with this release schedule, it'll be in terms of months at least, certainly not weeks—we would need to be in a Clash of Red and Black situation right now, where even with multiple cases, the main conflict remains the same for each of them... ideally, this would end with the Kudōs, the FBI, the NPA finally unveiling and executing the plan they discussed back in File 1,012/Episode 954, and Rum's identity being revealed.

It's a shame, I don't think we're going to be that fortunate in terms of getting there quick—it likely isn't going to take only 2-3 cases after this one for Rum's identity to be revealed and for the Plan/Gambit pileup to come about and then reach a climax. Gosho will likely segment things as he's typically done, taking those 2-3 cases and putting 2-3 cases inbetween them. While this can lead to focus neat details and buildup, it slows things down—those who experience the series after us can just go "binge, binge, binge" and get the full package nice and quick, but for us? That's quite the ask of your fans to wait, and if they don't care for what's being focused on or are feeling the fatigue caused by the combo of length and repetition, you're going to get some bailing out, thus leaving fans like me to give massive caveats for them so they don't waste their time and instead focus on series that don't have these stumbling blocks.

 

If you had to ask me for a year count, I'd say... 1 year minimum, and 3 years maximum, and that's just for the Rum arc to end. If we jump right into the "Boss/Anokata" arc after that, you can have a smidge more of hope than usual. Who knows if he'll stick with this new 7 years per arc thing for it, too? Maybe it'll be shorter, a Clash of Red and Black-like arc unto itself... but in all probability, that's just wishful thinking. -_-

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