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Kyuu Nye

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  1. Gosho has always made it a point to paint the culprits in his manga as something readers could sympathize with. The point of this is to drive home the ideal that no matter the situation, murder [and other crime] is wrong. Even within the Black Org there are lights in the darkness. Gosho is painting with ideals, which isn't bad, but certainly not realistic. I think that is part of the reason why I've slowly drifted from reading DC recently. (though I'm not done with this fandom yet, I will see this series through to the end)


  2. Just because an episode isn't subbed before the next episode is released does not mean that subbing has ceased. You have to give fansubbers time. 

     

    Be patient and grateful that you are receiving a free service.

     

    (Also please remember the dark ages of DC where you were lucky to get case every couple of months)


  3. Please refer to the following threads.

     

    News about Watch Section being down

     

    and 

     

    When and How to Search

     

    This question has been asked numerous times, and the information as to why it is so is in several places. Look around a bit more before you post next time.

     

    Tl;dr the links:

     

    link 1) Lawyers said take down the watch section, so Maurice did.

     

    link 2) Use the search before posting a topic if there is even the slightest possibility your answer is elsewhere. It is an awesome tool!


  4. but I think that the DC translating team are slow even for a mystery type

     

    Please, feel free to translate DC if you are dissatisfied with DCTP :)

    We do our best, but as Chek said, this is our last priority. It is a rather time consuming hobby. Having fans complain about our translating speed, or any of the like doesn't really help either. We always appreciate words of thanks, but unfortunately several complain, and have a sense of entitlement, which is unfounded. We translate DC because we are also fans. Many on the team can just read the raws straight without incident (even I can do that now, and I'm not that good at japanese), We choose to translate, typeset, QC, clean and edit, then release for all fans to read. We don't need to, rather we want to. We aim for the highest quality. I'm sure we could release quicker if we didn't make sure that every file was released with the utmost care and quality. 

     

    Please understand that we may not be the quickest, but we always strive to be the best. 

     

    tl;dr: Complaining never helps anyone. Please be patient. We do our best. :)


  5. why is the manga series takes long to go out in english? i waited for about a week or so and got none T_T after around 2 or so it came out... isnt manga's usually a week once? :(

     

     

    What ALAKTORN says is true. As someone who is on the staff at DCTP, I know, probably more than most, the lengths that the staff goes through to keep bringing you the manga. We have real life to deal with, jobs and school. On top of that, translating Japanese isn't exactly easy. Then you have the cleaning and the editing and raw acquisition. Everything takes time, and we only want to provide the best possible scanlations. 

     

    Also, since many fans don't realize this, Shonen Sunday is a big misnomer, since the magazine isn't actually released on Sunday. It is released on Wednesday. 

     

    Finally... Sometimes there are breaks. Always check the end of the chapter to see which copy of Shonen Sunday it is coming out in. You can check the issue and date of release at websunday.

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  6. I get your point, and I agree with you. When DCW is actually so powerful that nearly everything from here shows up, it isn't really surprising if a sub forum shows up (or say... It is Kinda expected). And speculations are, it may cause trouble because it may attract more people (sometimes unwanted) or expand the forum in the wrong direction. Then when it does, it may cause some trouble (E.g too many threads etc.) Wherever there's people, trouble will find its way, whether it is a role play forum or games forum or chat forum...etc, Only that you 'foresee' that RPs will create more problems than necessary, which could or may not happen at all. So do you mean that if the role playing grows, it will create trouble, so we should not look forward for it to grow or expand at all and we should bring as little attention to it as possible? If so, then it's really unfortunate and I'll resign to fate and grab myself a corner to be depressed. :(

    Also, DCW is... essentially... a role play. Unless you don't think it is? Now let's see of we aren't creative and rename them to "DCW Roleplay scene 1" and post it in chat room. It's gonna show up on google and people will notice it and join. It's going to be the same. Could it be that you're fine with DCW irl because it's name happen to not contain the word 'roleplay'? (btw that is only an example and I don't think anyone will want its name to be changed.) Now if the sub-forum is called DCW irl, or some other name it would be alright?

    And sorry for being overly sensitive over the matter. I can take insults or criticism myself but I have a problem with thinking properly when something or someone I value gets put down. It's not your problem, I think its mine. And about the discussion thing not affecting... Actually it does >__< it creates some sort of psychological stress when something has been discussed over and over again and in time the brain will sort of reject the thought of it >__<

    Also, it may actually bring up unexpected discussions and trigger some negative ideas and thus indirectly affecting it. :/

    And lastly, I don't actually want you to hate me, and I don't intend to offend anyone. =X

     

     

    It would, but it is still not warranted, and rather unnecessary. So that problem is still an issue. However that would prevent unforeseen expansion that would create issues.

     

    That said... The entirety of DCW IRL is small. Let it grow on its own. It is well known enough on this site to allow growth. I know about it, and I'm barely on the site as of late (I open it in browser out of habit but barely look at it). So people know about it, don't kid yourself that. If it is going to grow, it will. At this point facilitating the expansion of something that has no evidence of extreme growth, seems a unnecessary. Right now making a subforum for DCW IRL would be like putting a seedling in a pot that was meant for a large tree. Could the plant grow that large? Maybe, but no one would know. And if it doesn't then its just taking up unnecessary space. 

     

    And if you think DCW is a role play... then you really need to get out more. DCW is in no way a role play. I used to be a part of several role play communities, and I still role play with friends over chat or IRC. I used to do table tops as well. (DCW IRL is, DCW is not) DCW IRL is a small community driven RP. 

     

    All I'm saying is leave it be. If it needs a subforum it will get one. Right now it doesn't. The role play community here is small. There is already an archive thread in place so that is good for finding old threads. I'm sure this forum will be glad to make changes for RP/DCW IRL if it is needed. It just isn't now. And I'm sure you can agree with that. 

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  7. Greetings DCW! I've noticed in my time here, that there is a severe lack of understanding of when or how to use the search function or any other search. So I'm going to give a run through of the different aspects.

     

    FIRST! When to use search?

     

    Well, the first thing you should always do when starting a topic is check the thread reference guide that Chekhov MacGuffin created! That is a great resource for finding old threads on a variety of topics in relation to Detective Conan.

     

    But let's say that you cannot find something similar to the topic you want to create or you are making a topic not in Detective Conan forums (like Chatroom or elsewhere).

     

    It is at this point you should always use search. There might already be a topic for what you are creating, or your questions might have already been answered.

     

    Where to find search bar (And other searches):

     

    searchloc.jpg

     

    Regular search and advanced search act exactly the same way. Advanced allows you to use tags and other parameters, if you know them. Like Date range, Author, and tags. You can also search based on number of posts and number of views.

     

    And be aware that the search bar is always there, no matter what (It is the nice thing about IP Boards). On top of that, it will search the specific forum you are in. (So if you are in "General" under Detective Conan. It will only search that forum, unless you select otherwise). And it even goes further than that, being able to search specific threads. (Which is great if you want to find something you know someone wrote in a long thread.)

     

    Type of searches (And how to use them):

     

    Now there are THREE ways to search this website.

     

    The first is the one everyone always tries (if they choose to use search), and subsequently becomes frustrated with. This is known as keyword searching

     

    What does that mean? Well first it means that you can't use words under 4 letters long. This is due to the fact that many 3 letter words and under are too broad or unspecific enough to make the search effective! 

     

    What it does is this... It will take the words and search all of the words in the forum posts. Trying to find threads in which the words occur. 

     

    Example: Say like you were looking for Shinichi vs Heiji. If you search that. It will search for the words Shinichi and Heiji. It will disregard the word "vs"

     

    So here is a basic search. (I used advanced to show it)

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    Here is the results. Please note how "vs" was completely disregarded,

     

    shinvhei.jpg

     

    And here is how it actually searches. Notice how the words are NOT in tandem. It finds, in threads, the words. It does not however search thread titles.

     

    howresults.jpg

     

    So that is how that search works! And how to use it. Because of how it is designed, it will give you the most results, but be the least accurate. 

     

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    The second is what is known as phrase search.

     

    What this is, is a search of a specific phrase. So it completely disregards the under 4 letter rule. 

     

    To use it is very simple. You enclose the search terms in quotes!

     

    phrasesearch.jpg

     

    And here are the results. Notice that only one result shows. Because it is the only thread with that specific string of words. 

     

    phrasesearchresult.jpg

     

    And that does it for the site specific searching.

     

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    Yes, I know I said there were three, but it is really more like three and a half.

     

    The last one is GOOGLE! You can use Google to search the contents of ANY site in the same two ways as above. Use it if you don't like the site search or just trust Google more.

     

    The way it works is that you type into google

     

    site:detectiveconanworld.com/forum/ [search query] (Consequently you can also use this to search the wiki too, just use the right site search.)

     

    Both the types described above can be used. But because it is using Google's algorithms, the results are a bit different. 

     

    So here is just a quick example using the same search terms I've been using. 

     

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    Now there is a benefit to using Google over the site's... Google's search is a bit more flexible, and thus it doesn't have any requirements like "No words under four characters"

     

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    So I implore everyone to use all the resources available before creating a new thread, or claiming something wasn't available when it was.

     

    And I hope this is useful to everyone.

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  8. KKLT, you clearly misread my point. You want a ROLE PLAY forum, specifically for DCW IRL. If threads like that and this one will show up, then an entire forum will as well. Quite possibly not in the way you intend, shifting the entire purpose of that subforum, creating more issues, when people enter looking for one thing, finding another, and starting their OWN RPs because it said "Role Play" Forum. You seem intent on the illusion that everything is perfectly controllable because you have been a part of a rather small and contained RP within DCW as a whole. It might not expand DCW IRL at all! It could actually TAKE AWAY from DCW IRL if other RPs get started up because people either have their own ideas or own wants from RPing in this community that a new Forum will take away from. Which may or may not be DC related. 

     

    And btw... The forum is unnecessary. I've said that several times. I was referring to the idea, which is silly. 

     

    I highly doubt that any discussion will harm DCW IRL. The only way it will be hurt is if players get bored and leave it. That is the way ALL RPs are hurt. 

     

    Point of fact... I don't hate you. I haven't hated any regular.


  9. Huh... KKLT, please explain this screen cap then.

     

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    Now assuming that an entire (and active) roleplay subforum was made... On the second biggest DC Fansite on the net and the biggest English DC Wiki site was made. Do you really think that it wouldn't get noticed or appear first on searches? Clearly this thread already does. So why not a dedicated forum? 

     

    And it can grow just fine without a dedicated subforum. It isn't needed for growth. If it reaches the point in growth that a subforum is needed for Roleplay, then I'm sure one will be made at that point. However now, it is just silly.

     

     

     

    Also, I'd like to thank IdentityUnknown for actually being reasonable and logical.


  10. Yes you can search for it. Use quotes, try it. I know it's possible because I did it. I really think the problem with a lot of users is that they don't effectively know how to utilize search queries.

    And the issue of expansion is very real, mainly because of something called " Google" if you add a sub forum for role play it can and will show up on Google. Causing expansion that you may not expect. This thread merely discussing the idea already shows up!

    You have an archive thread that links to everything, making it easier to find. An entire sub forum is just superfluous.


  11. Okay I read it again and I see the point. I guess the way we viewed it was different. Apparently forum specific for role playing and the promoting of roleplaying is the problem. True, to a certain extent, but I feel those reasons are more applicable for sites which do not already have any role playing and are debating whether or not to create one. We already have a form of role playing going on right now under chatroom with no designated moderator (unless you mean chatroom mod) and we are still doing fine. With a new sub-forum, does it mean that there MUST be another mod for it? We had a sub-forum in "Games" too. Its called forum games. Is there another mod for it too?

    My point of view is that, there could be a sub forum created, just to make it more organized and we can use it for role plays as well. It will use the rules from the chatroom instead of having its own very special set of rules. If anyone wants to create a role play, they shall manage it themselves just as we have done it currently. Mods might feel obliged to create a perfectly equipped sub-forum, but I think all we really want is just the ease of finding the threads. The newbies may be interested to know that there is such a thing here. It gives us a place to create one so that we dont create it all over the Place. (We do have something like this in games forum too.) That's all. No need for too much complications.

    No one will come to DCW specifically for a role play and truthfully its totally unnecessary, but you know... the DCW family may like to have one.

     

     

    Currently the only RP is DCW IRL. Yes? That is a start and end affair. The only purpose it would serve is to act as an archive for past plays. But you know what? Site search does the same. Since searching for "DCW IRL" will serve as essentially the same thing, if you really need to look up old threads of the RP.

     

    As for everything else, that doesn't actually change my point, whether it is DC related or not. There need to be general rules, because it would branch out (in other words universal RPing rules that won't be breached, which would maintain fairness). There would need to be special moderation. There would be constant moving. The needs of RP forums are totally different from most other forums. 

     

    There is a reason why most forums don't have RP even though the fandoms clamor for them (and those that really want them, tend to create their own forums specifically for RPing purposes). Because of the work and the drama they bring. Most forums keep it to communal discussion, and all others specify that they are an RPing forum.

     

    DCW IRL is fairly contained as far as I can tell, so asking, for perhaps a log area for past RPs I understand more. But a whole other RP subforum? Not so much. However, it would be specific to DCW IRL. The second it expands past that problems occur again. 

    There are things to consider if they are long spanning or spread across many threads. First is how to keep track of everyone's character. Character creation is one of the core essences of RPing. Character logs: how to keep track of what each character has done. Further subforums if it does take off. Unless you want the new RP subforum to become clogged and confusing with multiple RPs going on at once. Constant moving of threads, taking out old ones and moving them to inactive (unless of course you have sufficient subforums created). 

    Clearly you are only thinking short term, which is ease of use of DCW IRL. Which can easily be remedied by methods previously stated. Long term RP forums take a lot of upkeep. I'm not sure you realize that. If it grows, like you hope it will, it will only become exponentially more trouble as time goes on and it gets more popular. As it stands the RPing community here isn't big enough to warrant a separate subforum. This why Carpet Crawler brought up DCTP (or so I assume). DCTP has just as large, if not a larger RPing community than DCW, yet does fine without an RP subforum. Why? Because it is simply not needed for the amount of RPing that actually occurs, and would only bring more complications. The RPs are self-contained and searchable if you want to go back and read. 

     

    Leave it at that. This is simply not needed. In essence, you are asking for the admin and mods to take on additional responsibility and work, just so you can find a few threads a bit easier, Use the search function. It is rather simple. 

     

    tl;dr: It isn't like there are many different RPs here. There is only one. Use the search to find old threads, and problem is solved without the creation of a new subforum, which can potentially bring more problems. 

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  12. Regardless of the comparison of DCTP to DCW here is how I view it...

    Pointless. Why?

    1) As of current there is only one game that would be put there. A whole subforum for one game doesn't make any sense.

    2) What else WOULD you roleplay on DC specific forum? DC? That doesn't seem to be in high demand. DCTP used to have an IRC for DCRP, its pretty much dead now. And everything else? Well can't you go to a roleplay specific forum?

    3) The moderators are here are not used to moderating role play type forums, as opposed to RP specific threads where the moderators are used to moderating RP related threads. Not one moderator here would know what to start. And the nature of roleplay tends to create tension. You need moderators whom are experienced in such things. It would create a lot of trouble imho. Especially if people get too into character and start taking offense to things that were said about their character by another character.

    4) Everything withstanding that, a proper RP forum would need to have separate rules and regulations so that it is fair and fun for all. That way people don't power trip. Again, this creates issues with work load for moderators. (A general set, separate from thread specific rule sets)

    5) Maurice runs this site. Considering everything I said, and the fact that he created this for Wiki, not for Roleplay. Why spread the task of this forum even further?

    This is just my take. It is more trouble than it is worth and honestly. Keep this website as a discussion and wiki site. That is what makes the most sense. If you want to organize specific RPs I'm sure no one will stop you. You can make a thread here, do live over IRC. It is all up to you. However, creating another forum for mods to worry about is just unfair, and again pointless since it is a small group of people.

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