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    On 3/3/2017 at 0:47 AM, AnimeOtakuDrew said:
    Spoiler

     

    Just a warning, this post might be a little long.

     

    First, a response to detectiveRJB.

    We don't know that for sure. All we know is that the Organization as a whole doesn't know Conan's identity. It is entirely possible that Anokata does know and has decided not to tell all of his/her subordinates.

    As for who Anokata is, I came up with an interesting theory a while back that addresses the identities of both Anokata and Rum. I am going to copy and edit my post from the discussion about rum on the manga forum to explain my theory. If anyone is curious about the Rum side of the theory, then feel free to go check out that post (I believe it was October 27th or 28th of last year).

    First, let me explain where the idea came from. It was the combination of a few things, actually. The first thing that started the genesis of this theory was how people made references back to the development of the Bourbon arc; specifically, the parallels to Gundam. The next thing that helped my mind develop this idea was the repeated mention of the appearance of Lum and whether it was what Aoyama-sensei was referring to with the Animal Crossing hint that Rum had appeared. The final element that spawned this theory was a single mention of the fake name Akai used while undercover with the Organization, Moroboshi Dai.

     

    The idea? Well, if analyzing Gundam turned up significant clues pointing towards Bourbon, maybe analyzing another anime could point us toward Rum. What anime? Urusei Yatsura!

     

    A quick rundown for anyone not familiar with UY. Basically, Moroboshi Ataru was a normal guy who was going out with a girl named Shinobu until aliens showed up and he was chosen at random to be the Earth's champion in a game (basically tag) that would decide the fate of the world. His opponent was Lum, daughter of the alien leader. He won the game, and Lum became obsessively infatuated with him, leading to various hilarity and crazy situations, as well as the first and funniest anime love triangle I ever saw.

     

    Now, the Black Organization is clearly the parallel to the the alien invaders in this theory. So how do we figure out who represents the leader? By analyzing the connection to other characters. The leader is the father of Lum, so Anokata (in my theory) is one of the parents of Rum. To figure out Rum's identity, we need to dig deeper. Lum is in love with Moroboshi Ataru. Moroboshi...as in Moroboshi Dai, also known as Akai Shuichi. So, if we accept Akai as Ataru, then we need to look at his love interests to figure out who Rum/Lum is. We know that, before going undercover with the Organization, Akai was involved with Jodie Starling, but with the Organization as the analog for the aliens, that would make Jodie-sensei a parallel to Shinobu (Ataru's girlfriend before he became involved with the aliens. Lum/Rum would be a love interest within the Organization/aliens, meaning Miyano Akemi (for the full explanation of the Akemi=Rum theory, please see the aforementioned post in the manga forum on the discussion about Rum, I will briefly cover some key points here as they align with this theory, but will mostly be addressing the idea of one of the Miyano parents as Anokata). 

     

    "But wait! The Miyanos are dead!" you say?
    All we know for sure about the Miyano parents is that they were researching a mysterious drug for the Organization. The true purpose of this drug is unknown to every person we've heard discuss it, including Shiho, who continued the research after her parents were (supposedly) killed in a fire in their lab. Now, how could the true purpose of this drug remained secret for so long? Clearly the Organization has no qualms about killing, so i suspect that they probably subscribe to the old say, "three can keep a secret if two of them are dead," but that only explains so much. Isn't it easier to keep a secret by simply not telling anyone? That's the kind Of person I think Anokata is. Clearly, in order to run such an extensive crime syndicate as the Black Organization, you have to be highly intelligent, like a scientist perhaps. Someone with that level of intelligence would have no difficulty learning the pharmaceutical skills necessary to develop a new drug. And, if the purpose of that drug was not to be known, even to other members of the Organization, such a calculating person would not trust anyone but themselves to work on it. Of course, I suspect that not even all Of the Organisation's members knew the true identity of the big boss, let alone that the boss was personally one of the scientists working on this mystery drug.

     

    Allow me to explain the rest by unfolding the series of events.

     

    Anokata was working on the drug with her/his spouse (I am leaning more towards Elena as Anokata for reasons that may or may not be clear upon reading this, so the rest of this will be worded accordingly, but it could possibly be Atsushi). At some point, Atsushi started having second thoughts about their research, at which point he became a liability. Rather than risking that he might sabotage the project or turn the Organization over to law enforcement, Elena realized he had to be eliminated, so she staged the fire in the lab, stepping into the shawdos as Anokata full time and passing the research on to the only one she trusted with it; one of her own children. Of the two children, it was the younger, Shiho, who was chosen to succeed them in their research (presumably having shown some scientific aptitude at an early age). But the eldest child of such an important family would not be a mere grunt within the Organization. Just as Shiho undoubtedly received scientific training from an early age, Akemi would certainly have been taught other skills that would be useful to the Organization. After the "death" of the parents, Miyano Shiho was continuing research on the same mysterious drug they were working on, but all she had come up with was an untraceable poison, which she herself said was not the intended purpose of APTX-4869. I'm fairly certain that Haibara has also admitted she knew little of what went on in the Organization beyond the confines of her lab, mostly just what her sister told her. Now, with Shiho's research at a standstill, Elena came up with a plan to motivate her. What if her beloved older sister was in danger and her life depended on the completion of APTX-4869? But even that didn't get the desired results, so they had to go one step further, both to demonstrate that their threats were not empty and to try to scare Shiho into making APTX-4869 into what it was meant to be, and Miyano Akemi had to die. It was at that point that the plan was set up for the robbery case. Akemi would commit the robbery with a recruited team, kill them, and in turn be "killed" by Gin. The robbery went off as planned, but then one of the recruits betrayed Akemi and disappeared with the money before she could kill him. In disguise, she hired Kogoro to find him. After recovering the money, she didn't count on the fact that Conan would be able to track her, so the scene to fake her death was modified on the fly.

     

    This scenario also answers a few questions I have had about things in the course of the series. It explains why Gin is so ready to believe Akai Shuichi is still alive, because he has carried out a faked death very similar to Akai's. It would explain why Gin didn't immediately kill Shiho rather than just handcuffing her and leaving, thus enabling her to escape (you don't just kill the boss' daughter in a criminal organization, you check with the boss first or you might end up dead as well). As for why Akemi/Rum did nothing with the information that Conan admitted to her that he was Kudo Shinichi as she was "dying," I'm sure she reported it directly to Anokata once she woke up. Rather than killing him outright, I imagine Elena's scientific curiosity was piqued and she probably gave Akemi instructions to observe him. At that point, they may not have been certain that his de-aging was caused by the APTX-4869, or (more likely) they wanted to see if there were any other effects on APTX-4869's victims that suffer the de-aging side effect before killing him. When Shiho disappeared, Elena and Akemi would have figured out how it happened and suspected she might have gone to Conan for help, which is why the Organization was looking for her in Beika specifically and why Bourbon was sent to build an association with Kogoro, with whom Conan is staying. Yet, even after "Shiho's" "death" on the Bell Tree Express, Haibara still showed up, so even though none of the other Organization members knew who she really was, her presence probably would have been reported. So finally, Akemi decided to take action and disguised herself as a new teacher's aide at Conan and Haibara's elementary school, Wakasa Rumi, to get close and do what needs to be done. She is now simply waiting for the call from her mother to kill or capture Haibara and/or Conan.

     

    I was going to add a little bit more, but I think that covers the key points well enough. Plus, there are some ideas related to this that are still brewing in my mind, so I can't fully cover everything as even I haven't figured out ALL the details yet.

     

    So, that is my new theory. I have tried to present it with a well thought out defense, and to answer the biggest questions it raises, but if anyone has anything to counter it, or to add to it, I am still open to ideas, so by all means let me know! I look forward to seeing everyone's responses to this theory!

     

     

    Anokata is not know Shinichi is conan because he or she know shinichi is Alive, smart and probably run his live and  best possible protect is his friends. Shinichi  most do hide.Anokata no idea where. This final arc is hunter vs group  hunter.

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    On 1/27/2017 at 1:44 AM, AnimeOtakuDrew said:

    I will be really disappointed if Ran doesn't find out until the final episode. I want to see Aoyama-sensei explore the whole new dynamic that would be created by Ran learning the truth before Conan is cured. That deserves a full story arc unto itself.

    If Ran find out conan is shinichi news arc and I'm fun is Conan x Ai but Ran will fine out Ai have a crush on him. Circle around to I say is ran favorite to win shinichi heart but shiho is second favorite to win his heart. Ran best chance to win heart his  is not find out conan is shinichi and Ran not find out Ai Haibana is other take pill aptx 4896

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