Chekhov MacGuffin
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By DCUniverseAficinado's method, the first month covers 39 cases some of which go on for more than one day. If you just count the days shown in manga (ignoring seasons and stuff) and assume that two cases don't take place on the same day unless shown, more than 31 days that have passed.
I remember doing this type of tally and gave up around the Hatamoto Family Murder Case because it became clear that I wasn't going to get a logical or useful result. It's a noble attempt, DCUniverseAficinado, but just as nonsensical as the floating timeline. It ultimately doesn't matter because Gosho has been careful to make sure exact times don't matter as far as current events go. Other than the fact that Conan-form is less than a year old, Gosho is pretty careful to scrub references to when other events happened relative to one another because he doesn't want readers thinking about it too much. The only time precision matters are events prior to Conan where Gosho often gives relatively precise times.
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I watched all of the first Gundam series and my opinion after doing so is that Gosho's interest in Gundam homages only goes as far as Akai and Bourbon. Gosho seems more interested in recreating the classic feel of Gundam's Char-Amuro rivalry with Shuuichi and Rei rather than importing an exact storyline from Gundam. This makes sense because Gosho has his own story to tell and copying another story would distract from that.
The Akai family storyline seems to be going in a completely different direction than the Gundam original series. Char's family background wasn't this complicated. If there are similar-to-Gundam tropes coming up for the rest of the Akai and Haneda family, it's more likely to be a coincidence than deliberate copying.
I think that Masumi and Sayla Mass are very different as characters. Compared to Sera, Sayla is even more useless and emotional rather than logical. Sayla is most like Bourbon-arc Jodie. (I'm still not over how badly Jodie's character has been mangled. Vermouth-arc Jodie come back pls. D: ) The most Sayla-like moment for Masumi in the DC manga was on the mystery train was when she reacted poorly to Vermouth's Scar Akai and then got taken out immediately. Other than that, Sera generally has her act together even though she gets beaten by Conan in every matchup they have.
I really don't see the Gundam stuff spreading outside the FBI, certain Akais, and Bourbon to be honest. There are some generic storyline parallels, but I 100% don't think Gosho is going to make Rum or the BO boss a Zeon homage or something like that.
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The 4 live action specials and the live action drama series aren't essential to anything and are liberal with the canon (alcoholic cakes = APTX antidote, entire case with Eri when Shinichi is supposed to have forgotten who Eri is). You aren't missing anything if you skip them. All but one are flashbacks to before Shinichi shrunk, but the character relationships won't make sense without knowing events in the main continuity. Some of them involve Kaitou Kid, Eri, some police, Haibara Ai, and Sonoko, and the events of the Vermouth arc.
I'd simply watch them when they are aired, which means looking up the date the special aired, looking up the anime case with the closest airdate, and then watching the special after that episode.
You can edit your posts btw, no need to double post.
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10 hours ago, AnimeOtakuDrew said:On 8/31/2011 at 1:00 AM, Chekhov MacGuffin said:If we start with the assumption the Black Org was pretending to try to kill Kogoro, their boss, in order to fool the FBI into thinking he was unrelated to them, then it would be weird for them not to follow through with the murder. It would create more suspicion than it is worth to fail in front of the FBI (even if they didn't know Akai was watching), especially since it's possible the FBI might try to shelter Kogoro or watch him in order to protect him or something like that.
But, even with a hyper-awareness, anokata would realize that he could not evade assassination attempts forever, therefore he would only have it going on as long as absolutely necessary to allay any suspicions. And, as that kind of person would be extremely intelligent and perceptive behind the facade, he would be able to guage the reactions of the persons involved and call off the hit once his goal has been accomplished.
QuoteAlso Ai has met with Kogoro (first that comes to mind is the "Hunted Kogoro case" just before Red vs Black) and has had no "Black org reaction."
I am on episode 424 and I seem to remember at least one episode when Haibara failed to react to the presence of a Black Organization member. Additionally, anokata would be so deeply immersed into his cover and masking his presence, whether he is Kogoro or somebody else, that I would be surprised if she DID get a reaction to him.
QuoteAlso if the boss was Kogoro, he should be really intelligent. That means he should have caught on to Conan's and Ai's situation, yet isn't helping the Black Org find them which doesn't make any sense, a la reasons why Agasa isn't the boss.
I am sure he HAS realized Conan and Haibara's situation. The reason he doesn't send the Organization to kill one or both of them is simple. They are too close to him, so their deaths might draw undue attention, but they are close enough that he can watch them himself and know when they become a real threat making their elimination essential.
Your responses are incredibly weak because they fail to address why the boss would voluntarily putting himself in the line of fire, and how his actions make sense without omniscience. One of the things you don't know yet is that Vermouth has explained that the boss is "Cautious to a Fault". He is someone so careful that he is liable to break a bridge testing it to make sure it is safe to cross. Therefore an aggressive, fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants plot that would frame himself and put his life at risk based on an unstable scenario where one of his agents suddenly disappeared and Conan is doing who-knows-what seems entirely contrary to his nature as Vermouth explains it. There are far too many unknowns. How would the boss know Conan would reach him in time and the distractions would work? How was the boss planning to call off Gin after Conan had tried and failed to distract them - when going to the window to yell at Conan exposes him more? It doesn't make sense.
Finally, do you really think hypothetical bossKogoro is unable to figure out how to make Conan and Ai have an accident that couldn't be traced back to him when he knows Conan's behavior intimately and has the resources of a whole Organization? Wave one whiff of a murder mystery in front of Conan and he runs off, and the Detective Boys are sure to follow, meaning the boss can easily put Conan and Ai into any sort of deadly setup he may like. Also, why wait to eliminate them when they are already making friends with ex-members and the FBI? Kogoroboss should have shut Conan down after interfering with Gin and Vodka on the train case, the one where Kogoro stayed on the train that the two MiB were trying to blow up, which doesn't make any sense. The plotholes don't pass scrutiny.
Also, in addition to what everyone else has said, before Vermouth dropped that line about the boss's personality, most people didn't think Kogoro would be the boss because it would be out of character. Gosho doesn't go in for "bullshit twists". Gosho is a plain vanilla by-the-rules mystery designer as evidenced in all his regular cases and arc cases to date. He has never once has done something dirty to lie to the reader, such as have someone who wasn't a suspect who hadn't made prior appearances be the killer. Even the misleading thoughts and dialogue always have a true context that makes sense and explains the choice of words.
Furthermore, Gosho plays fair because he wants his readers to solve the mystery, unlike the writers who employ bullshit twists because they want "no one saw this coming" or to defeat the reader. (Even though a major ally being the mastermind is such an overdone trope that it is charcoal. It's also why everyone and their mom starts by suspecting the protagonist's friends.) When you get there, somewhere in chapters 550-552 (hammer nail snake case) Conan roughly says that people often times really are what they seem, and that it's impossible to live a lie without letting the cracks of who you really are show through. Therefore, it would be out of character for Gosho to set up such a major premise "If the Black Organization finds out Conan/Ai's true identity, they and everyone around them will be killed", and then defy it by having a boss who did know but didn't act because of some handwavy, sketchy reason.
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There are some contradictions between the MK 1412/MK special and DC timeline. A lot of the first part of the MK 1412 timeline should take place while Shinichi is an adult, but the episodes show Conan which makes no sense. Kaitou Kid needed some time to get sorta good at being a thief and reach status quo with Akako and Hakuba before Shinichi could appear.
I made a when-to-watch timeline, but it is not official or comprehensive, is entirely dependent on what I think is a good idea, nor does it fit episodes for exact chronology, because that would be a lot of work.
http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12153&p=797800#p797800
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On 8/11/2016 at 5:04 AM, MeiTanteixX said:I wouldn't say the old man having the height of a "normal adult"(If the picture that @Jimmy-kud0-tv2 posted is what you're referring to). Besides, when your legs are crossed, while sitting on the floor, your height will seem shorter than when you're on your knee.
I checked the old man. As you can see in 945p14 he's short, but he is also significantly bent over. Straighten him out and his chin is level with Yumi's clavicle. Back to the flashback picture, even if you shave off a few inches of Shuukichi's legs for sitting on them, his torso length is only a touch shorter than the old man's (who is also sitting on a pillow and in a similar state of bent overness). That means that middle school Shuukichi should have his chin height slightly below Yumi's clavicle. The flashback kid has his chin 3/4 of a head below Mary's clavicle. Assuming the flashback is 10-12 years ago like most are, Shuukichi should be in high school (16-18) rather than middle school, and thus taller than the middle school flashback.
Again, I'm making a raft of assumptions I discussed earlier: that Mary isn't unusually tall for a DC woman, the perspective isn't wonky (like the kid is walking down some stairs and Mary is on the step above), the kid's hair isn't sopping wet (it is a beach case!). We only have that one picture to work from, so it's hard to call. I'm leaning on not Shuukichi for now, because of the aforementioned reasons and because the kid hasn't shown any verbal content traits that match Shuukich's quirks. I will change persepctives if more information comes out in favor of Shuukichi later.
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Ugh, Kor just informed me on the dctp spoiler cbox that I have to take back my take back. That image is of Shuukichi over 10 years ago, the English translation is faulty, and the Chinese is correct. That means for sure that Shuukichi was the height of a normal adult at the time the Ran Shinichi flashback took place.
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16 hours ago, DCUniverseAficionado said:What's this about 15 years ago and him being 13? In which File/Case did we see that? I only recall two flashbacks going back 10 years, the first from 900, and the second from 945–947—though the latter was just a few background pictures, recalled by the old man from that case.
I was repeating what I had heard on the cbox, which I think was in turn repeated from the Chinese, who have been unreliable in the past about theory data. The scene I listed as 15 years ago in the flashback is ten years ago (File 945p11). We don't have an older image of Shuukichi we can pin down with an accurate number.Turns out the English Translation is wrong. It's from over 10 years ago.
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Double post but more pics. Not a lot new.
It's likely that there are no more flashback pics, and that most of the file is devoted to swimsuits and the current case.
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On 8/8/2016 at 4:18 PM, DCUniverseAficionado said:A user from Tieba Baidu posted an edited image of Shukichi from File 848, Page 16, with his hair and hidden eyes matching the boy from 969's spoiler pics:
(I would post the actual image, rather than a link to it, but I can't get the image to show up)
Baidu doesn't allow hotlinking, so you must reupload it somewhere. That's why it doesn't work.
SpoilerBarring a gross age error by Gosho (and he is normally careful so I don't think this will be it), and that the picture isn't grossly misleading (i.e. the kid isn't sitting down with sopping wet hair, and Mary isn't a 7 foot giant), I don't think the kid could be Shuukichi. He simply looks too young, short with tiny shoulders, relative to Mary. Shuukichi is 28 now. At the age of Ran and Shinichi in the flashback, Shuukichi would be 16-18. We have seen what Shuukichi looks like at 18 and 13 years of age in flashbacks, and he wasn't a pipsqueak. At 13, fifteen years prior to the current timeline, he was at least as tall as the regular-sized dude who kidnapped Yumi.
The lack of glasses and not-quite-on hairstyle just convinces me further. As for who the kid is, he could be a younger brother of the late Haneda Kohji, or a magical construct created by giving life to Akai's shaved-off armpit hair.
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Just for info: How long did it take you to finish ur research?I've probably put about 10-12 hours into it.
Only thing i worry about is that ur assumptions, which are obv right, wont be used by Gosho as as recurring pattern.
Here's the thing, I didn't start with any assumptions about exactly how or how often Gosho would portray half-blind chars as far as looks go. I simply did the tallies, put some numbers together in a way that I thought was logical, and let the data speak for itself. I looked at the way various characters behaved across almost 250 chapters worth of time for consistency. And the data hath spoken: there are trends which allow you to spot half-blind characters from the numbers alone after they have appeared enough.
He still might come up with Rum doesnt need to turn his/her head everytime since there isnt any dangerous situation. Now obviously some of you will tell, that Gosho is superdetailed on drawing .. but still.. i somehow wouldnt trust in that at all.I think you underestimate both Gosho's fairness and statistics' power to pierce the veil of seeming randomness to find patterns. I've already been through an analysis like this for handedness which worked flawlessly, so I know math will work on Gosho. Even when Gosho takes a different approach to two characters (say Kuroda vs Kansuke's behavior) it leaves a trail in the numbers.
And somehow i feel we still have too few panels from pretty much every suspicious character to finally judge it.That's why I took the time to pin down about how many datapoints are needed before calling it. I suggest 120 "non-SS" looks. The only reason I called Sakurako at 80 is because I could tell in the middle of tallying that she was behaving consistently within a case and between cases.
Nice to see ur "suspects" are pretty much similar to mine. I guess ur taking Mary and Shukichi out of it cause its more or less likely confirmed that theyre Akai-family.They aren't "my suspects". I picked those characters because they are popular suspects in the fandom. I will get around to doing Mary and Shuukichi, but I flagged them as lower priority because most people aren't as suspicious of them.
Btw, if u had to do a final guess on Rum, who would it be ?None of the major recurring Rum arc characters are appealing in the slightest, so a new character or one we haven't seen much of yet.
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Well, I did something useful for once; I leveraged the power of statistics to figure out how to spot characters who have only one working eye and are trying to hide it. Using Kansuke as my model and Koumei and Conan as controls, I was able to preliminarily identify the traits of one-eyed characters by simply counting the number of panels where they turn their heads and look a certain way. I then applied the results to Rumi, Kuroda, and Sakurako Yonehara. Kuroda has too few points to go off of, but an interesting lack of head turning. Rumi appears to have two working eyes, but there is not enough data to tell for sure. Sakurako was much more definitive: two working eyes and an honest disposition that avoids sideyeing characters. Mathematically, Sakurako is out of the running for Rum. From now on, any new character who appears for 2-3+ cases will not be able to hide from the powers of math.
You can see the results and more Rum hunting tips here: http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/User:Chekhov_MacGuffin/Vision-
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1 hour ago, detConShin said:1)I think you are contradicting yourself. If deaging did occur then most jobs would be very difficult to manage.
Nope, I am not contradicting myself. Shinan-Kudogawa claimed the boss was going to be a business leader effectively because that's what stereotypical evil organization leaders do and the boss needs the cash. I was casting doubt on the validity of that pidgeonholing entirely independently of claiming the boss was de-aged.
1 hour ago, detConShin said:2)at the end of the off season valentines party case vermouth got a mail from the boss calling her back to his side. From this i think it is safe to assume that vermouth has met the boss. Assuming that vermouth and gin are equally ranked it is quite possible gin has met the boss.
That's a guess, and there is still no evidence. I agree the boss and Vermouth are probably meeting, but Vermouth might only get to see the boss because she is the boss's favorite, and maybe everyone else like Gin deals with Rum.
1 hour ago, detConShin said:3) I had a question. I am fairly new to DC which perhaps would be evident from what I have wriiten above. Why do you people always assume that vermouth has hidden the identity of Conan Edogawa.
Because it is a general premise of the manga: Agasa said it at first, and then Haibara who had some actual authority came along and confirmed it: the organization values secrecy over research. "If I reported your condition to the organization, it's very likely you would have been terminated before I could do something useful." Haibara explains that Kudo would have been killed by the Black Organization anyway even though he was an "interesting specimen." She then reiterated that recently by saying Kuroda would have certainly attacked after seeing her face if he was Rum.
Making a bloody splash among detectives and police wouldn't stop them either. In Kir's intro, Gin, with the boss's approval, was 100% willing to put Mouri down in his office on a moment's notice and then go through everyone around him until they dug out everyone who might know about the Org or where Sherry is. It was only the intervention of Akai Shuuichi AND Vermouth pleading that she needed Kogoro for reasons she doesn't want to go into that got Gin to back down... yet even now he still holds a grudge against Kogoro and wants him gone. Conan thought of handing over the Nanatsu no Ko phone number to Takagi for tracing, but Ai axed that idea saying the BO would find out,Takagi would be murdered, and then it would get ugly as the BO tried to find out where the number leaked from.
Basically, as Vermouth put it, the only way to keep her angels safe is to keep them out of the world of the Black Organization, which means not telling anybody. Conan is pretty desperate to involve himself, and Vermouth couldn't stop Conan when she enacted an elaborate plan to separate Ai from him, so she has given up there. Vermouth got Bourbon to agree to not harming them, and maybe not so coincidentally, she picked Amuro probably because she somehow knew he would abide by that promise being the kind of person he is...
Welcome to DC!The reason I knew you were new btw had nothing to do with questioning this, but because your theories suggest you haven't yet been burned by the no-one-communicates-with-each-another principle before: http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/User:Chekhov_MacGuffin/Recurring_Tropes#Lack_of_information_sharing
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I wish we had html view once again so I could quote by pieces.
>However it is safe to assume that Anokata in appearance is an old Japanese man with a wealthy company as a front, due to the fact that if he was deaged or stayed young in any way he wuld be aware of the deaging effects and would have no reason not to tell Gin his loyal agent to look for a child Sherry.
I don't think this is a safe assumption in the slightest because it assumes that A) The boss is a communicative person willing to reveal himself to Gin if he had such aging problems. B] Gin has even met the boss in person C) Gin knows this is the same boss as always despite your assumption that Gin only joined halfway through the Organization's existance.
Gin saw Vermouth's true face in the Halloween case and yet has not drawn any conclusions about de-aging. That strongly suggests he isn't playing with the full deck of information about the Organization and its history.
Your assumption that that the boss is some business leader instead of a math professor, or a law enforcement agent, or a scientist, or a retiree, or a corner grocer is based more on character stereotypes than information.
>it is quite obvious that Anokata regards loyalty more than anything behind only the secrecy, as seen when he orders the murder of Pisco an old member of the B.O. .But what about Vermouth? She is pretty obviously keeping secrets. If Gin can tell, surely the boss can.
The only trait we know for sure the boss considers a plus for agents is sheer savagery. Kir so far is the only person we know why was codenamed: for staying silent as her body was destroyed, biting a man's wrist to the bone, and then blowing his head off like an animal. Chianti (or Korn, I forget) said it was the ferocity of her actions showing that she was a person capable of snapping that convinced the boss, rather than loyalty alone.
The idea that there are 7 starter agents and your guesses on their identities are asserted without evidence, so I don't really have anything to say about that.
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I felt we needed a thread for discussion of suspicious and recurring arc characters like Hyoue Kuroda, Wakasa Rumi, Sakurako Yonehara and others so we have a place to talk about them outside of their intro chapters and the Rum thread. I figured there might be more continuous discussion if I lumped all the suspicious arc characters into one thread rather than give each one a separate thread. Secret spies? Enemies of the Organization? Hidden backstories? False identities? Awesome? Stupid? Please post theories and comments about these characters here!
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16 hours ago, MeiTanteixX said:There's nothing wrong with the name "Wakasa Rumi". It's only outside the "Detective Conan" universe that it's a "rum"-like name...
Eh, I disagree, I think the characters can tell in-universe that Wakasa Rumi is too familiar. They might not have commented on it yet. The only names that are overlooked are the pop culture references (Gundam, Detectives), and even then it was a surprise when Kor's 007 name was explained.
16 hours ago, MeiTanteixX said:Personally, I think that it's too over the top for Gosho to introduce a new suspicious character only to reveal that it's an undercover agent sent out by Kuroda(whose general motives are yet unknown).
Whether Rumi is Rum/undercover agent or not, It's very doubtful that Gosho is not gonna introduce a new subplot(unrelated to the other agencies/bureaus) through Wakasa, but she will most likely tie in to the Rum plot, one way or the other.
Both of these have been done though. We have had at least two spies introduced every arc so far. See agent Camel dispatched by Akai before we knew all of Akai's motives. We also have Jodie, James, Kir, Rei, Scotch, and probably Mary too.
"It's very doubtful that Gosho is not gonna introduce a new subplot(unrelated to the other agencies/bureaus) through Wakasa" --> Is that double negative intentional? Because we got the Akai Family subplot through Sera. I don't think we are done with Japan's Public Security Bureau because Kuroda is involved in the regular police, and his mysterious backstory has not been addressed.
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I was discussing with Kor on the spoiler cbox, and he proposed the idea that Rumi could be, by process of elimination, a member of the secret police that Kuroda or Amuro may have sent to spy on Conan. The secret police don't know about many of Conan's exploits, but know he is showing up in places oddly relevant to the FBI and working with people like Agasa and Okiya whom Amuro still finds suspicious. In other words, the secret police know they are missing quite a bit of data on Conan. Given Kuroda and Amuro's personalities, I think it would not be out of character for the secret police to stick someone on Conan and the rest of the DB as a monitor of sorts. The process of elimination is that the BO would never use the name Asaka or Rum as a joke (no benefits) and the FBI and CIA wouldn't bother with Conan/the DB since Akai is the kids' contact. The regular police don't suspect Conan and can send Shiratori who in turn can call Kobayashi. Mi6 seems to be out of the picture for now, except with Mary who seems to be doing her own thing. That leaves just the secret police.
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No sane BO would use the name Wakasa Rumi unless she was trying to draw attention to herself for a mission, and there is doubly no way the valuable number two of the Organization would do it. It's the lower ranks' job to take the risks. Logically then, Rumi is a red herring.
It's amazing how quickly people now hate her. Everyone who disliked Eisuke seems to transposed their ire on to her already. I didn't mind Eisuke, but I am annoyed we have a lack of realistic Rum suspects right now. Kuroda is the only one who might have something interesting in his backstory, and even then I am pretty sure he isn't Rum.
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Something that has been bugging me... I thought in DC quicklime accelerated the decay and breakdown of bodies, thus making more recent murders seem much older. Could the murder actually be more recent than five years?
The clue that would make it clear what happened is whether there are any footprints in the quicklime. If the body is old, then whoever visited recently and rubbed the rust off should have left prints in the powder if they searched the place. It doesn't look like there are prints by the body, but I can't tell because there is no closeup of the area around the body.
Besides I am bothered by Rumi wanting to use quicklime for lines. She should be using chalk. Quicklime is caustic and irritating and not suitable for use around kids who have sensitive skin. The dust was used in ye olde days as ancient crowd control like blinding tear gas. Quicklime is also used for making concrete which is why I suspect there are bags of it lying around. Either way, Rumi's request to the DB was suspicious from the start.
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19 minutes ago, DCUniverseAficionado said:Uh, because this is Detective Conan, where plot threads can be left dangling for years to decades before continuation, let alone resolution?
Depending on one's perspective, this has either been the case from the start, the case since the Vermouth arc ended, or the case since the Bourbon arc started, or even places in-between those.
I meant the in-universe reason. In most cases, like the Grey Planner for instance, something or someone is responsible for reviving a case that lies dormant.
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1 hour ago, Serinox said:If you look closely, she has her eyes closed when she does her bow and hits her head on the desk, so it's probably just she bowed too far because she was nervous.
The last two DB cases gave us serious plot moments (Conan noticing the similarities between the MG and Haibara, Haibara revealing that Koji Haneda was on the APTX victim list) and there have been DB with serious plot moments in the past (The entire Detective Boys vs. Robber Group case where Scar Akai was introduced for example), so I wouldn't rule it out that something relating to the main plot happens in the next two files of this case.
Precedent suggests plot developments happen most often on the first two pages of the first file and the last two pages of the last file.
Either way, the fact that Haibara appears close to Wakasa and she doesn't trigger Ai's BO sensor react strongly suggests Wakasa innocent or case culprit. Adding that to the boring design, I think Wakasa is a throwaway character.
I just want to know why this gold business is coming back to relevance right now after a decade of nothing happening.
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Sorry for the double post, but I have new content unrelated to the previous to post: spoiler pics
吾 , | 吾--> "I, me"
会 . | 会 --> "meet"
吾 ! | 吾--> "I, me"
工ミ |工--> "work, art", 三 --> "katakana mi for water/Wednesday"
本火 |体 --> "book", 火 --> "fire/Tuesday"
工月 |工--> "work, art", 月 --> "moon/Monday"
工土 |工--> "work, art", 土 --> "ground/Saturday"
吾日 |吾--> "I, me", 日 --> "Sun/Sunday"
吾金 |吾--> "I, me", 金 --> "Gold/Friday"
工火 | 工--> "work, art", 火 --> "fire/Tuesday"
里月 |里 --> "village", 月 --> "moon/Monday"
里木 |里 --> "village" , 木 --> "wood/Tuesday"
攵ミ |攵 --> "strike/hit", 三 --> "water/Wednesday"
会ミ | 会 --> "meet" , 三 --> "water/Wednesday"
舌日 | 舌 --> "tongue" , 日 --> "Sun/Sunday"
[]土| 土 --> "ground/Saturday"
[]月| 月 --> "moon/Monday"
[]金| 金 --> "Gold/Friday"A Japanese person worked out the code by the way. It's not solvable for non-native speakers in my opinion.
http://amataroujr.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-246.html
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Another female Rum suspect is an interesting choice. The glasses are also concerning since she could have an eye problem. I really need to see her character design before deciding if she is overly suspicious or if she is presented in an Amuro/Araide fashion. Either way, Rum would not go around with the name Wakasa Rumi unless he/she was deliberately trying to attract attention to themselves. It doesn't make sense though for the most part, since Rum is the number 2 and shouldn't be putting himself into missions that could get him captured. That alone suggests that Wakasa is innocent civilian coincidence most likely, or a lower rank disposable member on a mission to attract attention for mysterious reasons.
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Suspicious characters! Discussion about Hyoue Kuroda, Wakasa Rumi, and others.
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The mirror Asaka was seen with could be Kohji's dying message mirror. I think he stole it from the crime scene because he realized it was a dying message. The mystery photographer was able to take pictures before Asaka returned to retrieve it. I believe Asaka may have been temporarily forced to retreat because Kohji stabbed his eye in their struggle, thus Rum's missing eye.