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    You're welcome. A short summary of 1,086 is now out: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7700958120
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    I have to say thank you for posting these, i usually dont post in the forum.
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    Hello, This is my first post here on the forum so I apologize if I make any formatting mistakes. With 101 released volumes, there are now 101 characters featured on the back cover of Detective Conan volumes. Practically every single character that had at least some form of an impact on the story has their own keyhole, and then some. Several one-off characters get there own keyholes too: Haga Kyosuke (46), Bartender Lady (81), Vampire Maid Lady (79), etc. It's important to note that those were all "memorable" one-off characters. Aoyama is so desperate to find new keyhole characters that Vermouth appears four times: Chris Vineyard (26), Sharon Vineyard (35), Scar Akai (78), and Enomoto Azusa (90). Do you think that this scarcity of untouched characters will eventually reach a point where the course of the whole story shifts so that Aoyama can feature a new character? After all, every single keyhole character appears in the volume they are on (Even Okino Yoko in volume 17 (she's in one panel in the background of a thought)). Also, who do you think is next in line to get their keyhole? My bet is Hagiwara Chihaya. Finally, who do you think should get their keyhole ASAP? My choice is Itakura Suguru Here's a list of notable characters who haven't gotten keyholes yet: Hagiwara Chihaya Miyano Elena Haneda Kouji Korn Iori Muga Sonoko's Father Itakura Suguru Tsuburaya Asami Futoshi Ejiri Iwao Ida Nakamichi Inspector Momose Lupin (Suzuki Jirokichi's Dog) Kenzaki Osamu Sanada Takahiro Rum (without disguise) Karasuma Renya Miyano Shiho Tequila Pisco Numabuchi Kiichiro Phantom Lady Nakamori Aoko ... Alright, now that I listed them there might be quite a few left. But some of these characters like Futoshi Ejiri and Iwao Ida don't have a reason to return. What do you all think?
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    Hello, Just letting you know that the forum may be down a little while today for a maintenance operation. Hopefully, it'll be back soon enough. Thank you, Maurice
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    Of course there is no such thing as a "good reason" to commit crime, but we all know that there have been some (if not many) cases in Detective Conan that are "famous" for the culprits' motives being too unreasonable and nonsense, even for a fictional series. So which motive(s) in DC that you think are WORST ? This is my Top 5: 1. Find the Buttock's Mark (Canon) Motive: What the heck is THAT ? The first time I read this case I didn't even believe that it was the motive, thinking that there must have been something wrong with the translations. But no, there wasn't :| This one is the top on my list. And yes, this case was written by Gosho and not some random AO. 2. The Amusement Park Bungee Jumping Case (AO) Motive: WOW ! Just wow ! 3. The New York Case (Canon) Motive: What's with Gosho and the anime staff making characters kill people because of some freaking fictional characters ??? And speaking of which, here we have another one. 4. Holmes Freak Murder Case (Canon) I don't really remember the detailed motive since I read it a very long time ago. But I recall it having something to do with... 5. Disappearing Weapon Case (AO) Motive: Yup, this one is probably a "classic". The only reason it's only the 5th on my list is because that "motive" was only the direct cause that prompted her into killing the victim. Their relationship had became tense because of other reasons as well. This is also not as unreasonable and full of madness as the ones above IMO.
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    Amuro is a character who deserves sympathy: His friends are all dead. Elena, Atsushi, and Akemi are all dead. He still wants to protect Japan!
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    The title has been revealed, as well as the release date: April 15th, 2022! Website: https://www.conan-movie.jp/ Goshō's Poster: Character Descriptions: Synopsis (Crunchyroll): Trailer: Poster: Trailer #2:
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    The topic was deleted by error. I was able to restore a backup. It is one of the oldest and biggest/most famous topic on the forum after all. A trip down memory lane and through DCW's history.
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    True, i never post a comment, but i always read and i appreciate ur effort!
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    You are a true champ for consistently keeping DCW forum on a lifeline as new chapters release
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    The current prime suspect is Rumi Wakasa, but I don't think it's that obvious.
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    Hopefully the thread can be restored :c I miss it a lot tbh
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    Hello, in your website, I have see this books : https://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Detective_Conan_Anime_Shonen_Sunday_Comics_Visual_Selection how many episodes have been edited in comics please ? do you say if part three or more exist ? i search to know all books exists, … and this collection will be nice and complete adaptation movie in book. thanks for all. cordially, damien.
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    how come i didnt notice i put to research *ekem* i literally did no research whatsoever
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    Shinichi's birthday is May 4th Ran's birthday is most probably October 1th Heiji's is somewhere around June or August Kaito's is June 21st Aoko's is somewhere in September
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    Hello... So I have an enormous amount of episodes to catch up on, and I had an odd thought occur to me today. If this has already happened in the series (anime or manga) I'm hoping someone can point me that direction. It boils down to this: Is there any evidence that the Black Org has continued testing Apotoxin-4869 specifically, beyond the point where Sherry took the capsule and escaped? I was just sort of mulling this over, and a couple of possibilities occurred to me: If they HAD tested it, then if it regressed their subject to childhood, they'd know that someone who they thought they'd killed was probably still alive (Kudo Shinichi) and, by extension, Sherry. So... why didn't they come after their families and close associates? Going the other direction, if they HAVEN'T tested it, why not? It was supposed to be this useful new assassination drug, right? Of course, maybe Vermouth suppressed testing and all that, but... Anyway. I'm so behind on episodes that I've probably missed all sorts of plot developments that toss these questions right out the window, but then that's why I'm asking. Was any further testing done? Did any 'children' show up? If no testing, why not? Thanks.
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    it appears that it goes down to her knees...? its about medium length as for the question earlier about boots and dress question the dress i will not touch up on the boots, by my very lazy estimation are about 7 inches i think i literally did no research whatsoever
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    haha its fine so, you gonna ask me any more questions?
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    I’m sorry about the inappropriate things @FireStar2424
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    Don't you dare ask me about the size of her boots, I would need to do some dirty things to know that For the hosiery.... I believe they were gray.
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    This holds so much promise for the rest this year and the next.
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    Apologies for the double post. Info about the preview for Movie 26 is already out there:
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    Hello @HerlockSholmes. Please try again: First login into the forum, then go to the Wiki. You should be logged in. I - for now - removed the block you mentioned. Please try again. I hope this helps. Prove your good faith. Greetings and have fun making the wiki better!
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    Very interesting, such a great reasoning work from yours! But you didn't tell much about Billy and Fusae Campbell, who was probably adopted in the Haneda family just like Shukichi! ;) And do you really think Rumi could be Vermouth in disguise? With so many karate skills, with Bourbon, and so on? ^^ And Ai who finds her reliable and harmless? Following your thoughts, could that mean Wakita is Iori's kagemusha? So that matches Ai's testimony with the three depictions (Wakita isn't feminine, but Iori is, and is probably very old in truth, and with a imposing look, and he looks like a horse actually...). I also think that guy in the car can't be the Boss, who can't show up so easily (he's supposed to have departed from this world...). But could Mr. Karasuma actually have rejuvenated into Chikara Katsumata? Oh, and about Iori concealing his true age, it's most probably true but...did you know about the Seito Sakakibara case in Japan in the 1990s? That 13/14-year-old teen who murdered and butchered young children and who hated school and police? Iori could have been 13 back then in New York. Just like Ai, he was a young prodigy...in killing. He may have already been lying about his age to get hired by Amanda Hughes and stalk her unnoticed. Once again, kudos for your theories!!
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    Your analysis of the old man looks promising. For the rest of the analysis, only time will tell I guess. Either way, the efforts need to be appreciated. The theory is interesting enough for holding my attention till the end. " This could be Gosho's strategic plan to subvert the readers' expectations by essentially flipping the script right on its head, which in my opinion shows great potential to beating the big twist of the very-beloved Vermouth arc. " I hope this turns out true.
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    File 1088-1090 Review/Discussion This case was just full of surprises and is showing in my opinion big potential for Rum arc yielding one of the most satisfying plot twists that could beat Vermouth arc's Araide twist. To start off, we had the awaited comeback of the Ooka family, but with the very much unexpected reveal that Kuroda Hyoue has ties to the retiree of the Ooka family (Momij's grandfather) (File 1088). This connection gave an implication to some kind of history between Kuroda and the former Ooka family head. This connection is already quite hintful, since we recently learned that Ooka family has ties with the rich Haneda family (File 1039-1042), and Kuroda has been hinted to have a particular interest in the Kohji case (due to him immediately thinking of that case just from seeing the "Wakasa Rumi" name and her stunt in the news) (File 987). Since the common link between Kuroda and Haneda is the Ooka, this further pushes the idea that Kuroda Hyoue could be Akai Tsutomu, who is confirmed to be a family friend of the head of the Haneda family (File 1037), Haneda Yasuharu. This could also mean that Ooka retiree is aware of Kuroda's true identity (a fellow friend of Haneda). Then, we also get more hints on Iori Muga (who I have speculated to be Rum's true identity undercover), where he showed more Rum-like features; an old habit indicating that he has monocular vision (File 1089). Iori Muga has an old habit of turning his head often every he time gets off a car. This is a very common habit among people who only see through one eye, because having monocular vision means that your peripheral vision worsens, meaning that you have to compensate for the lack of full view with turning your head often. This was among the crucial awaited hints to point to Iori having a prosthetic eye (and by extension being the one who is going around disguised as Wakita Kanenori, Rum). Finally, we have the most exciting part of this case, which is the resolution chapter, where we got a lot of context clues to Iori's history and Kuroda's relationship with him, as well as the big tease to a mysterious figure that is heavily framed to be the infamous Boss of the Black Organization. To start off, we learn that Kuroda has been aware of Iori's old habit since way back and that Iori has explained it to him in the past as it being a habit to check his surroundings for any stalkers, as well as that Iori used to go by the first name alias "Sakakibara" (Ooka Echizen reference, likely full alias: "Takewaki Sakakibara") in the past while being undercover and working with Kuroda Hyoue (File 1090). This was then followed by Conan connecting Kuroda's words of habit "inspecting" and "disinfecting" to being that of the Public Security and started suspecting that Kuroda and Iori are a part of it. This reveal, that finally not only doesn't shy away from portraying Iori Muga as a main plot character but also reveals that he at least used to work undercover with Kuroda/the Public Security, is the most exciting part of this case, as it brings so much to discuss and has exciting possibilites for the future. For starters, this confirms one of my suspicions about Iori Muga. If Iori Muga had this familiar coworker-relationship with Kuroda Hyoue in the past, it would automatically mean that Iori is older than the age he claims to be (30 years old) as the butler of Ooka family, because Kuroda Hyoue has been in a 10-year coma (File 914). If Iori Muga was working with the Public Security under Kuroda's command 10 years ago, it would mean that Iori would have been 20 years old, which is abnormally younger than the average police officer (for reference, the prodigy Furuya Rei graduated police academy at the age of 22, and that's before entering the NPA). This means that Iori Muga is definitely older than 30 years old, which confirms the last key speculation of mine, which is that Iori Muga actually has an age that is competent enough to carry out the 17-year-old murder case of Haneda Kohji. Secondly, among the biggest implications of this reveal is the fact that Iori Muga used to work undercover with Kuroda (which is heavily implied to be for the Public Security). This could be bigger than it seems, because if Iori Muga were to actually be Rum/BO, it would mean that Rum/BO had successfully infiltrated the Public Security over 10 years ago. The concept of BO members wanting to infiltrate governmental agencies was already foreshadowed properly in File 1049, when Vermouth was revealed to have been trying to impersonate Akai Tsutomu in order to infiltrate the MI6. If Rum had infiltrated the security police this long ago, then it's very likely that Rum was the one who ordered Vermouth to infiltrate the MI6 in the first place, in order to gain inside-intel on how much they know about the organization. This Iori Muga development could potentially be Gosho's setup to revealing what lead to the mysterious incident that put Kuroda Hyoue, a seemingly high-positioned NPA agent, in a coma. After getting close to Kuroda Hyoue, Muga could have learned of how much of a threat Kuroda is to the Black Organization and executed an order to eliminate him. This could be were Kuroda's and Wakasa's history comes into play. Wakasa (who I suspect to be Vermouth in disguise), who showed a big reaction to Kuroda's sudden appearance in burning tent case (File 988), could have been the one who Rum ordered to assassinate him in an orchestrated accident, which ultimately lead to Kuroda surviving but not posing a threat to the BO further. This would explain Wakasa's sinister behavior of trying to fish out information from Kuroda on why he is interested in her and how much he knows. The next panels of this scene however arguably reveals the biggest indication on how dangerous this situation is. Kuroda Hyoue reveals that he has heard about Iori meeting Amuro and Iori essentially reveals that he has learned that Amuro, who he directly met during his own introduction (File 981), is a promising NPA agent that is restrained by his past. This setup might have huge and dangerous implications, because if Iori Muga really is the main antagonist of this arc, then this would mean that he is now aware of that one of his subordinates (Bourbon) is a NOC for the NPA. This would mean that moving forward, Rum will have the power to directly destroy Rei's infiltration mission. However, if Rum were to act now on this powerful information, it could tip off Kuroda, who just now learned that someone outside of the "inner circle" knows about Rei's undercover mission, so perhaps this could be how Gosho could delay any immediate threat towards Bourbon's life. This however just further pushes forward the notion that we are gearing up for Rum arc's climax and that Gosho might start giving us continuous main plot progression in the upcoming cases. Finally... the most controversial cliffhanger scene takes place, where a mysterious old man, that is shadowed out and using a respirator, is revealed to be driving by all of them, showing very much intended similarities to the infamous Boss of the black organization (Karasuma Renya) and who is showing negative opinions on the police. This old man, who majority are speculating to be Karasuma Renya, is in my opinion a very on-brand red-herring/mislead of Gosho's to make the reader believe it's the main antagonist of this whole series. This old man has very stereotypical features and elements to him that signals the reader that this could be the boss, like for example that he is driving a retro car like Gin, using a respirator for life support (which is what people would imagine for an old man who is 140+ years old and is supposed to be dead) and who is showing a bad opinion about the police (the "good guys"). This is however done without any explicit evidence to that he really is BO-affiliated. This is a classic Gosho mystery-writing move, where he frames characters strategically to seem one way without definite evidence for the sake of his iconic twists. I think that the timing of this tease rather suggests that it could be one other powerful/rich figure that was active and teased in the previous Ooka/Heiji case and who has good reason to dislike the police, Haneda Yasuharu (Kohji's father). Haneda Kohji was revealed in the previous Ooka/Heiji case (File 1042) to be the son of a very rich/powerful family. This is just in time to fit with this mysterious rich old man. We also know that Haneda Yasuharu was revealed to have asked for his friend Akai Tsutomu's help in order to solve the murder of his son (File 1037), which indirectly reveals that he didn't find the police competent enough to handle his son's case. This perfectly fits with the mysterious old man's negative opinions on the police, who failed to solve his son's murder. Now, here comes an exciting prospect to this setup. For Gosho to use Haneda Yasuharu as a mislead of being the Boss of the BO ("Bad guy"), it would mean that he is planning for the twist that he is actually a "good guy". However, that framing alone doesn't seem complete when you consider his writing of previous overarching mysteries. Gosho usually uses his framed characters in pairs of "framed good" vs "framed bad". Examples: Vermouth arc: Jodie, Akai, James (framed as a "bad guy") vs Araide (framed as a "good guy") Bourbon arc: Subaru, Masumi (framed as a "bad guy") vs Scarred Akai, Amuro (framed as a "good guy") So, what immediately comes to mind is that what Gosho is actually setting up with the mysterious old man is for him to be the "bad guy" to someone he is very clearly trying to portray as the "good guy" in this chapter, Iori Muga. I have speculated that Rum (as Iori Muga) is actually trying stay close to the Haneda family, and by extension Haneda Yasuharu, through the Ooka family in order to monitor their activities partaining to his crime 17 years ago, especially due to Haneda Kohji case info being uploaded online constantly. This portrayal of the old man, who most likely is Haneda Yasuharu, just fits like a glove with this new portrayal of Iori Muga, since we could see them framed as each other's enemies. So, when compared with the examples mentioned above, this time it could be: Rum arc: Mysterious old man (framed as a "bad guy") vs Iori Muga (framed as a "good guy"). This could be Gosho's strategic plan to subvert the readers' expectations by essentially flipping the script right on its head, which in my opinion shows great potential to beating the big twist of the very-beloved Vermouth arc. Overall, this case just set the bar high for what Rum arc could give us in its climax, and I have never been more excited for the future of Detective Conan.
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    Apologies for the double post. 1,090 spoilers now out: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7754818313 1,091 will release in SS #20—we can expect 1,091 spoilers in mid-April.
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    Spoilers for 1,088 should be out in about two weeks (February 25th).
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    Is there another break after the last file of this case?
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    I know I'm not a chief editor (or something like it) for the Wiki, but I thought I'd start this thread where everyone can come in and suggest this or that for the wiki. For example, I was wondering if there should be more character bios added and those that have little-to-no details be revised. I.E. start a page for Hagiwara (Matsuda's old partner), work on Andre Camel's bio page etc...
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    Because Kohji was drugged with the earlier prototype of aptx4869 which was created by shiho's parents. Shinichi was given haibara's aptx which she created using remaining data of her parents' research.
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    Dear Anonymous, You're a great person and you deserve someone so much better than me. Leaving people is easy but staying with them is what truly defines a strength of a person. Unfortunately, I am not strong and I'll live alone only. But still thank you for loving someone so broken like me. Sincerely, Me.
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    By complete chance I found myself watching "Blue Valentine" on Valentine's Day and even though it's been over a month since I watched it, just thinking back to that movie fucks me up so bad..
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    This is my analysis on Vermouth, my favorite character, using facts and some speculations (not to be confused with a fanfic). Hope you like it! The silence of the universe, the dormancy of the deepest sea level, the darkness of the basement, the peacefulness of the sky, and the tranquility of the moving breeze are undisturbed. When slightly touched, it becomes the explosion of the Big Bang, the rise of tsunamis, the dazzling gleam from the lights, the turbulence of Mother Nature, and finally, the boisterousness of the tornadoes. When the mysteries blacken the extremes from each end, we sense the vast arrays of mannequins lying in front of us upon entering the Void, with the question of picking the correct one. That correct version, at the end of the tunnel, is where all queries and mysteries are decrypted. The purpose of life, the true allegiance, the ulterior motives and most importantly, the face behind the mask make the fathom trip interesting and thought-provoking enough for any us readers. It all begins with the initiative of debunking the most mythical character to have ever existed, Vermouth. “A secret makes a woman woman.” Tilting her head slightly to the right, making a creepy yet omniscient grin, lighting up her eyes with a stunning stare that never leave the opposite in conversations and dilating her own pupils to relax all muscles, Vermouth perfectly keeps us in the vortex of confusion, amazement and silence. Boasting a curvaceous body with immaculate boob size, oval face, long hair, ludicrous height, long yet moderately meaty legs and a confident posture, Vermouth is a flawless creation of Gosho when it comes to physical appearance. Such a stainless figure seems outrageous and instigates rebellious fantasies within us, with the ability to shut down and unfreeze the most frigid mind. Immerged in the abyss of the immensely intricate outward appearance are the alternate layers of a multitude of charm that not only further perplex us but also carry thousands of messages to be understood. The soft core of one message is to garner more attention towards her, while the hard core of another message is to publicly display how Vermouth’s appearance can alter the entire structure of the atmosphere. And when our first feeling of being thoroughly impressed seems to peacefully drift, several layers of fatal thorns show up from the inside of Vermouth and begin to surface. Vermouth kills. Cloaking the form of one of the most charming human being to have ever existed, now on the other end of the spectrum, Vermouth quietly shows multiple levels of taints that turn her into a morbid figure that is a strong embodiment of the Black Organization. The guise of a seemingly introverted lady with soul-absorbing eyes and skin-tearing grins is stripped off and a split of personality becomes present. In a tight black suit, collared shirt and mobile equipment for use, Vermouth now appears as a killer no one expects. Armed with high-trained gun use, superior intelligence, unprecedented sensitivity, quick-minded grasp of each situation, indomitable calmness of the soul yet fiery forces of vengeance, and on top of that the broad understanding of medical knowledge and the ultimate weapon, out-of-this-world disguise capabilities, Vermouth is a fearsome opponent on the field that is ready for pursuit and termination. The most fixated look and thoughts on her vanish and are now replaced with apparent fear yet mildly amusing satisfaction. Being murdered by one of the flawless creations in this world can even bring about what is called “bliss” in death of the preys. Each prey can at least somewhat feel the pain and torture when Vermouth begins reading the requiem (Shiho, Jodie), yet can also perceive the less tortured imminent death. Vermouth really kills in style, and she sends the most tranquil yet disturbing messages to the preys she is about to dispatch to another world. Now, another door opens up another riddle of Vermouth’s life, what does she live for? The answer is obvious yet incredibly obscure. Vermouth has everything in this world that the Creators have bestowed on her: impeccable charm, sparkling beauty with shining visage, overpowered disguise abilities, enhanced stamina, superb acting and even top-notched intelligence. She possesses everything that each girl wants. One noteworthy trait, is Vermouth’s notorious disguise skills. It is still a great riddle as to how she manages to turn herself into anyone she wants, virtually, regardless of shape and size in most circumstances. The tutelage of Toichi Kuroba is the main cause, but other than that, her ruses into bluffing her identity that no one in the surrounding suspects are unbelievable. Among thousands of identities that mask her, this is what makes Ver gain the upper hand not only in infiltration and combat, but also her improvisation and well-used anthems to dig into the exposed personalities of the exposing side. She understands everyone’s actions and motives, but, what inside her awaits her decipher. When one puts on too many masks at the same time, he eventually forgets who he really is. The real entity is gradually eclipsed by the alternate egos that have now ingrained in him. The same process is happening to Ver. Being under the guises of all Dr.Araide, the serial killer in New York, Jodie Starling, Shuichi Akai, Azusa, and various other characters, Vermouth’s seek for her true identity is much and much more arduous. Vermouth is an extremely capable actress, and her outlook on her own life strongly suggests that she considers her own life a gigantic play, with her being given a specific role to play. Her bemused manners even in danger not only show her utmost bravery but also further exhume her attitude of how she considers each scenario an act in a particular play so that when she decides to make a move, all preplanned thoughts and predictions will serve her well. Even in an evil organization, she is also a favorite of Anokata, the boss that rules all. This enormous advantage, as a result, shields her from countless unnecessary complications or even in real predicaments. Coupled with that is her eternal youth, being unable to age during more than 2 decades long. The cycle moves on infinitely for Vermouth, as long as she lives, she is enveloped by burning jealousy, guaranteed security, and ultimate pleasance. Her life continues to be unharmed, and harnessed by every potent force that ensures her safety. However, on the opposite side, a door is squeaking and finally burst open. The journey is not over yet, and another corner of Vermouth marks its existence. We wish to be normal individuals, with a normal life, go to school, find a job, get married, have children, and enjoy the beauty of the nature. This wish, though ordinary, has become, becomes, or will become a burden for a lot of people out there with tremendous odds against them, such as being mentally challenged, physically crippled, so on and so forth. Being a genius, while garnering all the spotlight of accolades, deep respect and unfathomable admiration from others, can also deal huge blows to one’s own life. The wish to become normal again becomes more and more unrealistic. What eventually arrives at the end of our life is what we want to pursue the most normal things that everyone is entitled to. Vermouth can also be considered a genius, when various different fields of study such as medicine (as Dr. Araide to pass on knowledge to subordinates), disguise and acting (instructed by Kuroba), weaponry (trained in Black Organization long time ago) and her amazing intellect (developed on her own) are absorbed in her mind. She is blessed with a variety of talents that a lot can only dream of, and in her reverie now Vermouth vehemently desires peace in her soul. The struggle that we are trying to touch the darkest layers of Vermouth is equivalent to the struggles that Vermouth has been putting up with through her entire life. Her Oscar award and roaring fame are only superficial, and at present, Vermouth is doing the job before time runs out for her. It is not the Itakura program that presumably accelerates her age to become normal or a family with children that dispel her loneliness. Vermouth is racing against time, to find out what is the most valuable assets in her life. No more fame or public attention is needed. No more money is desired. What we have seen so far is the intense wrestling that Vermouth has put on. While it is true to say that she has many enemies in her real life, her most formidable enemy that she will ever face, is her own self. This is my analysis on Vermouth, my favorite character, using facts and some speculations (not to be mistaken as a fanfic). Hope you like it! Life is very fair and at a peak of a cycle is the initiation of a downfall for another reach to equilibrium. Vermouth’s life has been blessed with everything a human can basically ask for, and this suggests a new yet subtle trend that she realizes: The need to return to her natural self, not to become anyone else any more. “No angels have ever smiled upon me. Not even once.” This confession of Vermouth, as Sharon at the time, truly means more than words. What has gone wrong with her personal life has made some sorts of things irredeemable. Vermouth, up to this point, has no relatives (possibly the boss, yet this is to be confirmed). Surrounded by her are merciless sharks that can devour her any time. The stoicism, the sternness, and the stress around her are becoming more and more burdensome. The favoritism she receives in Black Organization is less and less meaningful. She has more than once expressed her conviction that Conan is the Silver Bullet that will take down the organization. Rooted in evil and now climbing out of a filthy swamp for a better future, Vermouth becomes a different individual that we see the change in color. Her definition of justice has been holistically modified and her wicked belief system has been undermined as a whole from Conan’s sheer influence of how justice should be looked at. Her allegiance, though unknown at this point, has been split in halves and what she needs is someone who can guide her through this mess, dragging her to the good side and ridding all the evil remnants that have been with her for such a long time. The quest for the right and the fight continues as her life passes by. As a seasoned disguiser that has successfully masked herself with hundreds of disguises, Vermouth is meticulous in love affairs as well. Gosho has indicated that Gin is not the type of person to fall in love with anyone, and while Vermouth is also an experienced assassin, she is of a very different type. The rock solid love deep down her heart for Shinichi and Ran lays the foundation for her behaviors of a nurturing mother. Vermouth can look ruthless, as Jodie has claimed in rage, that “how can she be a good person with that smile?”, or Shuichi, who also said, that Vermouth is a “wilted, rotten apple from the inside”; nevertheless, that is quite a misunderstanding, even though their words are meant to be and suit the situations well enough. Here is what comes to mind of us readers. Shinichi took a different approach rather than taunting Vermouth like what Shuichi did. In the guise of a serial killer, Shinichi still saved the killer, and said that there was no necessary logic needed when it came to helping people. Evidently, this bold approach almost made Vermouth in disguise kill him still, but, she was definitely moved by his demeanor and thus refrained from causing any damage at that point. From this incident, it is wisely interpreted that Vermouth is not an evil character, and a magnanimous behavior like Shin can change the world. Violence can be used for good to represent how justice should be served, but peace is the ultimate solution that erases any grudges and hatred. Vermouth is bright enough to thoroughly grasp the gist of life and how things work with reasons behind each incident, and this perfectly captures how the seemingly cold heart of a character can be absolutely melted. It does not take long before Vermouth figures out that her most invaluable “treasures” in this world are Shinichi and Ran. Even though Ran saved her life in New York thanks to her quick reflexes, In Vermouth’s eyes Ran is still only a stranger, not a blood relative. However, the fact that she clings to, with a clear imprinted will to protect Shinichi and Ran no matter what truly emblazons Vermouth’s twisted mind of a serial killer. This is the trait that sets her apart from other black organization members, who are brutal assassins and have no heart. And as we have seen, Vermouth has shown insane progress in modifying her substance to display her unbeatable tendency to change and adapt to new concepts. She is still learning, and fortunately she is a quick learner. Against the black organization, it sounds exactly like you are being mind-controlled by an evil force but you just keep fighting to not be controlled into destruction. Vermouth is being trapped in the locked maze of the situations in which life and death are not much of a difference from each other. She deciphers her own puzzles that she has set up, as a way to gain freedom. The fact that she cares extremely deeply about the couple Shinichi and Ran already implies her potential sacrifice in the future or noble departure from evil. Whatever denouement awaits her at the end of the street, her throbbing heart begs for care, protection, love and embraces like what a mother can give to her beloved children. From the aforementioned point of view, how do we think of Vermouth as a female character in response to romance? We see that she has shown the true noble love for Shinichi and Ran, but when it comes to romance it is a totally different topic. Vermouth’s real age remains a big secret, as always. If we assume that she is at least 50 years of age, which sounds the most reasonable considering that she killed Jodie’s parents 2 decades ago, Vermouth’s concepts of romance can already be scrutinized. Being one of the most magnificently beautiful female characters in the entire series, it would be unreasonable to claim that Vermouth has never got married in the past in her whole life, as the fact that she likes Gin a lot is taken into account. She poses no gender issues, and on top of all, the romance is explicit. Indeed, Vermouth is one character that is decorated with romantic penchant. Her slight complaint about Gin’s abruption in the classic “martini” scene emphasizes Vermouth’s complex thoughts of how true romance should look like. Every single human being has his or her soft moments. We are humans, not machines. When we have our weak moment, what we want is peace. No throttling, no bashing, no any punishments. It has already been a bad day and we need to be alone for a while. Vermouth is a warm-hearted person when she really means it, even though her acting can somewhat set it up at ease. Vermouth treats her friends, including Yukiko and her daughter Ran and Shinichi in a friendly manner and with evidence to conclude that she is not an iron-hearted person, Vermouth can indeed fall in love, despite the fact that she has been single for a long time in the organization. She shows that she is totally capable of loving, caring and taking after of the one she dearly loves for that matter. There is also a notable trait in Vermouth’s mindset that she is very serious in the face of romance. Her psyche, while containing the impulses of a serial killer, is in fact vulnerable to the core. Her insecurity, high standard of choosing a real lover, or fear of responsibility as well as other resulting entanglement could make sense in Black Organization like a bomb ready to explode. Vermouth is a female character that can feel mental pain like many others – in the past she hoped Shinichi would not think bad of her and that she could prove her worth later on in the series. While Vermouth can be a cold member in the organization regularly when on mission, or meetings, etc, as a regular person we can feel the loneliness deep within her. No one in the organization understands her thoughts and her feelings at all. No one really care. Black Organization is a brutal place in which if one is born into it, he or she perishes in it, and along with it. It is a butchering furnace that does not hesitate to terminate senior members, like Pisco. There is no such thing as feelings in there. Now that Vermouth has been exposed to what is called “love” and “feeling”, she is sweltered every single day. There is no one in the organization currently that she can put her faith on as a love partner. She is sexy, charming and she knows it very well. She rejected Calvados easily because that is what a wise woman would do. Calvados is known to fall for her because of her physical appearance, and while it is a normal thing for guys to fall in love with girls with striking appearance, physical appearance deteriorates over time and then who knows, Calvados might ditch her then, right? Vermouth chooses to let herself develop romantic relationship with someone she trusts enough, not those who fall for her beauty because out of 100 men, all of them could easily snatch her. Her insecurity might have resulted from the decadent past with an abusive husband, which we cannot confirm right now, but what she has been through in her long life this far has formed a shell covering her from hurts and pains. She has suffered a lot more than we would expect, and she does not want any more dents in her soul. She is one character that rather than cursing her, we should sympathize, with all our respect. Vermouth has done a lot, and exerted incredible efforts in learning to be an ally, as well as searching for her true self over time, but whether she will make it in the end, to fully develop as a memorable character for the entire world to see, depends on a lot of variables and remains to be seen.
  37. 1 point
    So, right now I have an unhealthy obsession with Hattori Heiji. discordiansamba on AO3 (think they're on fanfic as well) has a good selection of fic about the Osakan detective that's only augmented my favor. I haven't read through all of their fic, but I'll gladly rec what I have. discordiansamba (if you're on here) if you want me to take this down for any reason I will (I like your fic a lot U^U) (if anyone thinks any of what I've written needs to be put under spoilers, please tell me!) Okay, first up. Blood and Snow. Basically, it's canon divergent (some time around 2012 I think). Heiji, who is, of course, a skeptic, is forced to face the facts that there are things in the world that can't really be explained away. In other words, vampires. This fic is so good you guys. I was leery to start this--mostly bc I don't really like vampire stories all that much. But it's written so well. It's completed, with 20 chapters and an ongoing sequel, Bloodsport. Both stories have blended casefic into supernatural-esque fic so good! Speaking of fic that does casefic/supernatural blending perfectly (Don't) Believe What You Know does it so well. It diverges after the Nue arc. Basically, it's Conan who has to let go of his skeptical views for Heiji's sake. Because Heiji is constantly knee-deep in supernatural cases for a very good reason. Honestly, watching Cone investigate Heiji is so great and I just love this story so much and you should go read it this instant. It's up to date and ongoing. I'm in the middle of reading Twist of Fate , which basically takes the premise of Detective Conan, and switches Conan with Heiji. So far, it's pretty great. I'm not caught up on all the chapters, but I'm liking it. It's up to date and ongoing as well. All of the above fic have canon pairings. And I'm reccing one last fic from this author (although honestly, there's more that look good that you should check out as well--I just haven't got there yet). By the Moon's Light is a fantasy AU. It's not Heiji-centric like the other ones I recced--more of an ensemble piece, but this author is so freaking good so go read this anyway. I'm just going to post the summary, because a) it's only 5 chapters in so I don't know where the story's completely going yet, and b ) I wouldn't be able to do it justice-- When her kingdom's royal treasure is whisked away by a mysterious thief in white, Princess Suzuki Sonoko sets out to reclaim it- and maybe capture the handsome thief's heart while she's at it. What starts out as a simple quest driven by a maiden's heart soon involves countless people, dangerous curses, ancient witches, and a long hidden truth waiting to be revealed. It's mostly canon pairings, with the exception being Sonoko/Sera (which is such a good--and too rare--pairing that I don't even care :3). Honestly, the people in this fandom are so creative and smart:))
  38. 1 point
    Well, this is another turning point in what passes for my existence here, namely the last one. From the time I was briefly active here (minus the previous years lurking, and the multiple years of hiatus in between, I have basically decided to hang it up. It's a bit of a polarized decision, given the fact that most of my activity was actually spent at the neighboring DCTP (which I'm most likely leaving as well) my having still made a few acquaintances here, given that my RL is even more miserable, it's actually just as frustrating staying. A number of factors have added up to this, and ultimately, it seems this is simply another chapter in my life I must bring to a close. I thank those here who were supportive and I thank those who I was able to engage in some interesting dialogues with. US
  39. 1 point
    These are certainly very virtuous traits, but they're also very generic. A decent portion of the non-murdering characters in the series fulfill these criteria to some extent or another, and there's nothing that really sets Ran apart. As for her stupidity and maturity - like I said, she's neither stupid nor immature because both of those qualities are constantly adjustable in her case. You seem to bring personal attachment up a lot, but just as you are attached to Ran or childhood friendships, so might others be attached to Ai or troubled pasts. Your love for a character is irrelevant in a discussion regarding the character's merits within the series. Do you really think it's adequate to compare the separation of ones parents to being born into a criminal lifestyle, orphaned at a young age, recruited into a criminal syndicate before you even hit puberty, and forced to work for your sister's killers under the threat of death? There are plenty of examples - on nepotism, on identity and belonging, on emotions, on appearances - but you could just her DCW Wiki page. I never implied any intrinsic purpose, I merely described Ran's roles in there series. The idea that any sort of fictional character yields any intrinsic purpose is inherently flawed, as the state of inherence denotes natural designation - something that this work decidedly lacks. You argument of intention is irrelevant, as it doesn't change the fact of significance itself. That said, while your views do sound like the antithesis of Barthes' stance, I don't think they hold any ground here, as the principle just doesn't apply - it focuses on the interpretation of subtext, not plot relevance. I don't think there's any way you could really doubt the existence of these values. Essence is realized in the discrepancy between the claims, actions, and thoughts of characters, presenting itself in the intellectual and emotional purity of a character. Necessity can be measured in the number of unique connections a character's presence within the story creates between otherwise independent entities. Finally, significance can be viewed as the number, eccentricity, and complexity of a character's intellectual/emotional contributions to the story. As I mentioned above, there are plenty of examples - on nepotism, on identity and belonging, on emotions, on appearances. Check her DCW Wiki page for more. There are countless instances of Ai solving cases before Shinichi, often demonstrating a deeper understanding of the culprit's thoughts and intentions in the process. She also yields far greater knowledge over a broad range of subjects, and tends to put far more thought into matters that require serious contemplation. The core issue underlying the organized measurement of intellect in real life is a result of the various variables in play - be it personal philosophy, education, organizational difficulty, upbringing, or local culture. These factors are either not present or not as prevalent in a work of fiction, which makes it much easier to measure established competence and/or intelligence. As for Ran - see my reply to Hobgoblin. Ran is only ever as intelligent/mature as the situation demands. Her personality is generic and her mental faculties aren't consistent. She's not a persona, she's a plot device.
  40. 1 point
    Are you seriously trying to argue that a character shouldn't be killed off on the basis that their real-life counterpart wouldn't want it to happen? C'mon, man. I don't think people believe that. It's simply that when investing time into a story, folks tend to seek immersion - we read and watch fictional works because we want to relate to the characters and live out their adventures along side them. This is hard to do when the work itself lacks realism or authenticity. When characters are virtually invincible and any harm that might come to them is understood to be an arbitrary illusion for the sake of a spiel, the actions taken to both avoid and inflict said harm lose their meaning. If your characters continuously escape any and all threats posed to them, then said threats will eventually lose their power to captivate the audience, and once that happens, the story is robbed of its emotional impact. It doesn't matter how high the stakes are raised, because in the end, the hero always wins, and nothing of value is lost. That's why folks like tragedies - rather than present an emotional constant, tragedies offer characters whose survival/happiness is not guaranteed, and whose actions matter, which in turn means that the audience is invested in everything that happens. You're not just observing the plot, you're experiencing it. To say that an author lacks creativity for creating an actual story rather than a narrative stasis is delusional. Just to make this clear, you're degrading the work of the likes of Homer, Dante, Saavedra, Doyle, Harris - hell, just about any famous author. Claiming that tragedies are solely about destruction is contradicting the very nature of such works. Tragedies aren't just about death and decrepitude - they're about the creation of beauty, the sacrifice of the established, and the celebration of the flawed. Hamlet might have been a tragic story, but in the end it was an examination of the futility of vengeance and rage. The Odyssey might have told of a thousand deaths, but its purpose was the celebration of Odysseus' journey and the bonds that carried him through it all. You are oversimplifying and defiling one of mankind's greatest artistic achievements, and sloppily at that.
  41. 1 point
    In my opinion, if all love stories on the same format, this would be boredom and if LOVE has continued since cildhood this would be the purest love. And this is just my opinion.
  42. 1 point
    Dear Anonymous, I love you. Signed, me.
  43. 1 point
    That's because he's an annoying arrogant jerkface
  44. 1 point
    This is a rather complex question to answer. At the beginning of the series, Shinichi was evidently desperate to regain his normal form (for example, he fell asleep in class, and frequently asked Dr. Agasa about the men in Black). In fact, during the first two occasions when he regained his normal form, he planned to leave his childhood alter ego behind for good (which, as we all know, didn't happen). However, over time, Shinichi realized that he was going to be in his child form for a long time, so he gradually adapted to his situation, even going as far as acting like a little kid nearly flawlessly. However, there are still some occasions where he wished he were back to normal (for example, episodes 242 and 246). Like most other people, I do believe that Shinichi will regain his normal form for good by the time the series concludes, but the producers have purposely delayed letting it happen to avoid taking the air out of the series. In the unlikely event that Shinichi cannot regain his normal form for good, I think what he would do is simply disclose his true self to everyone after the Black Organization is taken down. I am currently writing a fanfic on how this could hypothetically happen - by the time I upload it, it will be more than 20 pages long, so be patient.
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