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[Aeyra]

I think everybody realizes that Conan is too smart for a seven year old, but most of them don't have enough pieces to put the puzzle together. Wouldn't it be an interesting twist if Gin knew all along? Anyone ever wonder exactly how Kaitou Kid knows? They never really bothered to explain it in the movies... I bet Jodie at least thinks he's Shinichi, and then probably the rest of the F.B.I., and maybe the C.I.A... Eisuke might have told his sister. I'd love a twist!

[Mohorovicic]

First of all, the F.B.I probably don't know who Kudo is. They are all, after all, American.

Anyone ever wonder exactly how Kaitou Kid knows? They never really bothered to explain it in the movies...

Gosho actually answered this question. The answer: he searched!

[Detective Kudo]

First of all, the F.B.I probably don't know who Kudo is. They are all, after all, American.

whats wrong with Americans?

[Stopwatch]

I think it means that Kudo isn't exactly known internationally so Americans (or most other nationalities) won't have heard of him

[Detective Kudo]

but they have been investigating the BO for some time now, and even had people on the inside( Akai) I would wonder why this kid knows so much, especially about the BO, and if Jodie know( like i think she does) why not the head people in the FBI? Wouldn't the CIA also know about apotoxin drug, along with Sherry's disappearance. Then could it be possible if they knew about Kudo? Eisuke knew about Conan's secret easily, why not others?

[detectiveRJB]

I believe is trust.I love ConanXAi because trust.Because trust other.

[Mohorovicic]

whats wrong with Americans?

Ha ha, that didn't come out right. Sorry.

I believe is trust.I love ConanXAi because trust.Because trust other.

This is not a ConAi discussion thread.

I stand by my decision. Although Kudo has been in the U.S, he isn't well known internationally. Jodie probably heard of him by Ran, not prior information. With the exception of Akai. I mean, come on, Conan pretty much gave himself away to Akai!

[Hajime Kindaichi]

I bet Okiya Subaru knows.

[Scar Akai]

I bet Okiya Subaru knows.

lol

[Stopwatch]

If he's Akai then yes, but if he's Bourbon then I'm left wondering why exactly Conan, Haibara and Agasa are still alive since Okiya definitely didn't belive the 'Kinichi' thing. Oh well, one more point on the Okiya=Akai side.
Also, I reckon Eisuke figured it out so quickly 'cause he was 'outside looking in' for most of his research, if any of you get what I mean?
And can I just say that lately Conan has lost the art of subtlety, I mean honestly the Kogoro Akechi line in file 766 just reeks of Shinichiness. Using metaphors and being overdramatic, that's how I usually tell he's gone into Shinichi mode

[Detective Kudo]

If he's Akai then yes, but if he's Bourbon then I'm left wondering why exactly Conan, Haibara and Agasa are still alive since Okiya definitely didn't belive the 'Kinichi' thing. Oh well, one more point on the Okiya=Akai side.
Also, I reckon Eisuke figured it out so quickly 'cause he was 'outside looking in' for most of his research, if any of you get what I mean?
And can I just say that lately Conan has lost the art of subtlety, I mean honestly the Kogoro Akechi line in file 766 just reeks of Shinichiness. Using metaphors and being overdramatic, that's how I usually tell he's gone into Shinichi mode

Yea thats why i made this thread, he is being himself lately without checking himself. Not thinking twice the BO may be watching him. Maybe he has some insight or a plan set in place to take them down.

I think Shinichi was known world round, not nessesarily because of the cases he solved in Japan and America(he lived there for some time so its bond to be true)but beause his parents are too well known for him not to have some fame in the international community even if its not a lot.

[Officer Kaoko]

If anyone, I believe FBI knows Conan's true identity (even though they never went direct with it). I also believe Okiya Subaru knows his identity. Beside them, I couldn't think of anyone else.

[Noir]

If anyone, I believe FBI knows Conan's true identity (even though they never went direct with it). I also believe Okiya Subaru knows his identity. Beside them, I couldn't think of anyone else.

Same here. Okiya is kind of really intellectual. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew the entire story!

[kaRAN]

Are you wondering who are the people who knows Conan's true identity? Here they are:



↘Dr. Hiroshi Agasa (Agasa-Hakase) is Shinichi’s next door neighbor and the first person to know his identity. Agasa-hakase uses his expertise in technology to help Conan in his cases and already made a lot of inventions for him. Most specially the stun-gun watch, voice changing bow tie, solar skateboard etc.

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↘Yusaku and Yukiko Kudo, Shinichi’s parents. They heard the story from Hakase and they decided to take Conan to America because his life is in danger but Conan insisted that he should stay in Japan because he wants to solve the case on his own, and of course, because of Ran.

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↘Hattori Heiji, the detective of the west and was once Shinichi’s rival. He found Conan speaking in his voice after he regained consciousness from Conan’s stun gun. Since then, the two became partners in some cases and became good friends.

*He is the son of the chief police of the Osaka prefectural police department.

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↘Haibara Ai, real name: Miyano Shiho and having a code name Sherry. She is a former member of the Black Organization and the younger sister of the deceased Miyano Akemi, which was murdered by Gin and Vodka. Because of her sister’s death she escaped from the Organization’s arm, she took her own drug, she made that APOTOXIN4869/APTX4869 which was the drug that made shinichi shrink and that made her body reverted to it’s childhood state.

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↘Eisuke Hondou, Ran’s new classmate and he appeared after those FBI incidents. She has a crush on Ran and he notices Conan’s actions towards Ran is too similar to that of a boyfriend. In order to know Conan’s identity, he tricked him by telling that he is inlove with Ran and wants to take her with him in America and blurted out that he wants to talk to Shinichi to get his opinion, since he knows the two had sort of been together and is angry that Shinichi is not there more for her. Conan then firmly reveals his opinion on the matter as well as who he is. Eisuke only laughs and tells Conan he had suspected it all along. Before leaving, Eisuke asks Conan to make Ran happy.

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↘The Phantom thief, Kaitou Kid. How he knew Conan’s identity was not given but maybe it’s because of his deduction skills and to the fact that, he is related to the Kudo family.

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↘Sharon/Chris Vineyard, aka Vermouth, she is a member of black organization and is also a master of disguise, her teacher in disguising was Kuroba Touichi (Kaitou Kid’s deceased father). She calls Conan as “Silver Bullet” meaning the one that can destroy Black Organization but Gin and Vodka said that there’s no such thing as Silver Bullet, which can end the legacy of BO. In BO, she is the only person who knows Haibara Ai and Edogawa Conan’s true identity. She does have a guilt complex towards anyone she owes her life to, as evidenced by her hesitating to harm Shinichi/Conan and Ran in the Ai Kidnap case because Ran once saved her life. (Episode 286-288, Shinichi Kudo's New York Case)

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↘(Deceased) Miyano Akemi, aka Masami Hirota. Older sister of Miyano Shiho/Haibara Ai. After completing a bank heist that was supposed to free her and her sister from the Organization, Gin and Vodka betrayed her and killed her before Conan can save her. Conan admitted that he is Shinichi Kudo when Akemi was dying. Akemi was in love with the undercover FBI agent Shuichi Akai, who she knew as her boyfriend Dai Moroboshi.

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↘(Deceased) Hiroki Sawada, from the 6th movie The Phantom of Baker Street. Hiroki is a genius kid but committed suicide because of the pressure put onto him. He created the virtual game (Noah’s Ark) which Conan, Ran and the Detective Boys had tried until it became a life and death game.

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↘(Deceased) Irish, from the 13th movie The Raven Chaser. Irish disguised as Superintendent Matsumoto during the investigation of the series of murders. He stole the Dark Knight Helmet (which Shinichi had worn at episode 191) and Conan’s dolphin’s fin modeling clay in order to compare the fingerprints, it matched 98%. Irish respects Pisco (who was killed by Gin) as his father, so he will use Conan as a witness to make that person overthrow Gin who failed to kill Shinichi Kudo and who failed to see through Conan’s true identity. He was sniped by Chianti while showing the memory card that he retrieved.
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According to my information these many knew his identity

i don't think any1 else knew his true identity

[Scar Akai]

Are you wondering who are the people who knows Conan's true identity? Here they are:



↘Dr. Hiroshi Agasa (Agasa-Hakase) is Shinichi’s next door neighbor and the first person to know his identity. Agasa-hakase uses his expertise in technology to help Conan in his cases and already made a lot of inventions for him. Most specially the stun-gun watch, voice changing bow tie, solar skateboard etc.

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↘Yusaku and Yukiko Kudo, Shinichi’s parents. They heard the story from Hakase and they decided to take Conan to America because his life is in danger but Conan insisted that he should stay in Japan because he wants to solve the case on his own, and of course, because of Ran.

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↘Hattori Heiji, the detective of the west and was once Shinichi’s rival. He found Conan speaking in his voice after he regained consciousness from Conan’s stun gun. Since then, the two became partners in some cases and became good friends.

*He is the son of the chief police of the Osaka prefectural police department.

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↘Haibara Ai, real name: Miyano Shiho and having a code name Sherry. She is a former member of the Black Organization and the younger sister of the deceased Miyano Akemi, which was murdered by Gin and Vodka. Because of her sister’s death she escaped from the Organization’s arm, she took her own drug, she made that APOTOXIN4869/APTX4869 which was the drug that made shinichi shrink and that made her body reverted to it’s childhood state.

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↘Eisuke Hondou, Ran’s new classmate and he appeared after those FBI incidents. She has a crush on Ran and he notices Conan’s actions towards Ran is too similar to that of a boyfriend. In order to know Conan’s identity, he tricked him by telling that he is inlove with Ran and wants to take her with him in America and blurted out that he wants to talk to Shinichi to get his opinion, since he knows the two had sort of been together and is angry that Shinichi is not there more for her. Conan then firmly reveals his opinion on the matter as well as who he is. Eisuke only laughs and tells Conan he had suspected it all along. Before leaving, Eisuke asks Conan to make Ran happy.

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↘The Phantom thief, Kaitou Kid. How he knew Conan’s identity was not given but maybe it’s because of his deduction skills and to the fact that, he is related to the Kudo family.

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↘Sharon/Chris Vineyard, aka Vermouth, she is a member of black organization and is also a master of disguise, her teacher in disguising was Kuroba Touichi (Kaitou Kid’s deceased father). She calls Conan as “Silver Bullet” meaning the one that can destroy Black Organization but Gin and Vodka said that there’s no such thing as Silver Bullet, which can end the legacy of BO. In BO, she is the only person who knows Haibara Ai and Edogawa Conan’s true identity. She does have a guilt complex towards anyone she owes her life to, as evidenced by her hesitating to harm Shinichi/Conan and Ran in the Ai Kidnap case because Ran once saved her life. (Episode 286-288, Shinichi Kudo's New York Case)

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↘(Deceased) Miyano Akemi, aka Masami Hirota. Older sister of Miyano Shiho/Haibara Ai. After completing a bank heist that was supposed to free her and her sister from the Organization, Gin and Vodka betrayed her and killed her before Conan can save her. Conan admitted that he is Shinichi Kudo when Akemi was dying. Akemi was in love with the undercover FBI agent Shuichi Akai, who she knew as her boyfriend Dai Moroboshi.

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↘(Deceased) Hiroki Sawada, from the 6th movie The Phantom of Baker Street. Hiroki is a genius kid but committed suicide because of the pressure put onto him. He created the virtual game (Noah’s Ark) which Conan, Ran and the Detective Boys had tried until it became a life and death game.

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↘(Deceased) Irish, from the 13th movie The Raven Chaser. Irish disguised as Superintendent Matsumoto during the investigation of the series of murders. He stole the Dark Knight Helmet (which Shinichi had worn at episode 191) and Conan’s dolphin’s fin modeling clay in order to compare the fingerprints, it matched 98%. Irish respects Pisco (who was killed by Gin) as his father, so he will use Conan as a witness to make that person overthrow Gin who failed to kill Shinichi Kudo and who failed to see through Conan’s true identity. He was sniped by Chianti while showing the memory card that he retrieved.
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According to my information these many knew his identity

i don't think any1 else knew his true identity

....Movies aren't Canon.....

[Aeyra]

↘The Phantom thief, Kaitou Kid. How he knew Conan’s identity was not given but maybe it’s because of his deduction skills and to the fact that, he is related to the Kudo family.

When were they related? (or do you read 'Relative Truth' too?)

[Mohorovicic]

....Movies aren't Canon.....

Kaitou Kid's knowledge of Conan's ability is only in the movies as of now, but its canon. But yeah, that's an exception.

When were they related? (or do you read 'Relative Truth' too?)

Not by blood, but Yukiko and Yusaku both knew Toichi, and Toichi met Shinichi once. I think that's what he means.
Relative Truth. Hmm...

P.S: Nice pictures.

[Detective Kudo]

Are you wondering who are the people who knows Conan's true identity? Here they are:



↘Dr. Hiroshi Agasa (Agasa-Hakase) is Shinichi’s next door neighbor and the first person to know his identity. Agasa-hakase uses his expertise in technology to help Conan in his cases and already made a lot of inventions for him. Most specially the stun-gun watch, voice changing bow tie, solar skateboard etc.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



↘Yusaku and Yukiko Kudo, Shinichi’s parents. They heard the story from Hakase and they decided to take Conan to America because his life is in danger but Conan insisted that he should stay in Japan because he wants to solve the case on his own, and of course, because of Ran.

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↘Hattori Heiji, the detective of the west and was once Shinichi’s rival. He found Conan speaking in his voice after he regained consciousness from Conan’s stun gun. Since then, the two became partners in some cases and became good friends.

*He is the son of the chief police of the Osaka prefectural police department.

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↘Haibara Ai, real name: Miyano Shiho and having a code name Sherry. She is a former member of the Black Organization and the younger sister of the deceased Miyano Akemi, which was murdered by Gin and Vodka. Because of her sister’s death she escaped from the Organization’s arm, she took her own drug, she made that APOTOXIN4869/APTX4869 which was the drug that made shinichi shrink and that made her body reverted to it’s childhood state.

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↘Eisuke Hondou, Ran’s new classmate and he appeared after those FBI incidents. She has a crush on Ran and he notices Conan’s actions towards Ran is too similar to that of a boyfriend. In order to know Conan’s identity, he tricked him by telling that he is inlove with Ran and wants to take her with him in America and blurted out that he wants to talk to Shinichi to get his opinion, since he knows the two had sort of been together and is angry that Shinichi is not there more for her. Conan then firmly reveals his opinion on the matter as well as who he is. Eisuke only laughs and tells Conan he had suspected it all along. Before leaving, Eisuke asks Conan to make Ran happy.

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↘The Phantom thief, Kaitou Kid. How he knew Conan’s identity was not given but maybe it’s because of his deduction skills and to the fact that, he is related to the Kudo family.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



↘Sharon/Chris Vineyard, aka Vermouth, she is a member of black organization and is also a master of disguise, her teacher in disguising was Kuroba Touichi (Kaitou Kid’s deceased father). She calls Conan as “Silver Bullet” meaning the one that can destroy Black Organization but Gin and Vodka said that there’s no such thing as Silver Bullet, which can end the legacy of BO. In BO, she is the only person who knows Haibara Ai and Edogawa Conan’s true identity. She does have a guilt complex towards anyone she owes her life to, as evidenced by her hesitating to harm Shinichi/Conan and Ran in the Ai Kidnap case because Ran once saved her life. (Episode 286-288, Shinichi Kudo's New York Case)

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↘(Deceased) Miyano Akemi, aka Masami Hirota. Older sister of Miyano Shiho/Haibara Ai. After completing a bank heist that was supposed to free her and her sister from the Organization, Gin and Vodka betrayed her and killed her before Conan can save her. Conan admitted that he is Shinichi Kudo when Akemi was dying. Akemi was in love with the undercover FBI agent Shuichi Akai, who she knew as her boyfriend Dai Moroboshi.

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↘(Deceased) Hiroki Sawada, from the 6th movie The Phantom of Baker Street. Hiroki is a genius kid but committed suicide because of the pressure put onto him. He created the virtual game (Noah’s Ark) which Conan, Ran and the Detective Boys had tried until it became a life and death game.

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↘(Deceased) Irish, from the 13th movie The Raven Chaser. Irish disguised as Superintendent Matsumoto during the investigation of the series of murders. He stole the Dark Knight Helmet (which Shinichi had worn at episode 191) and Conan’s dolphin’s fin modeling clay in order to compare the fingerprints, it matched 98%. Irish respects Pisco (who was killed by Gin) as his father, so he will use Conan as a witness to make that person overthrow Gin who failed to kill Shinichi Kudo and who failed to see through Conan’s true identity. He was sniped by Chianti while showing the memory card that he retrieved.
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According to my information these many knew his identity

i don't think any1 else knew his true identity

Really? you don't think the FBI knows, Okyia, Takagi,Eisuke's sister or anyone else. interesting

[Mohorovicic]

Really? you don't think the FBI knows, Okyia, Takagi,Eisuke's sister or anyone else. interesting

It's unconfirmed intel. We can only hypothesize until we get further intel.

I would say it is doubtful that Takagi and the FBI know. Takagi seems to have lost interest in the matter, and the FBi don't have sufficient information to make the connection between Conan and Shinichi, although Akai may be an exception. Akai has met Shinichi Kudo, and may have made the connection.

Eisuke's sister is a big question mark. Since we haven't seen her for about 60 episodes, I don't have much on HER suspicions.

If Okiya is Akai, then there is reasonable proof to assume that Okiya/Akai knows of Conan's identity.

HOWEVER, if Okiya is Bourbon, then that is a whole different matter. Okiya/Bourbon is likely not fooled by "Kinichi", and will be wondering why Shinichi is hiding. He would also suspect Ran and Suzuki because he may think they are covering him up. Okiya/Bourbon has seen Conan in person, and knows of his detective-like personality, but likely doesn't have sufficient information on Shinichi to make such a connection.

[kaRAN]

Really? you don't think the FBI knows, Okyia, Takagi,Eisuke's sister or anyone else. interesting

i think so